The tale of two Ministers: Is Ong Ye Kung recycling fluff or has Indranee Rajah failed?

In a keynote address at the 3rd International Congress on Vocational and Professional Education and Training in Switzerland, Education Minister Ong Ye Kung said that Singapore must adopt the best aspects of the Swiss education.

Minister Ong said that education systems faced the danger of becoming obsolete due technological disruption, while national boarders were becoming “more porous than ever”, resulting in a necessity to develop critical “soft skills” to collaborate with fellow human beings.

He said that the Swiss workplace apprentice scheme is of interest to Singapore.

“Two years ago, I visited Swatch and saw how the company put aside intra-industry competition, and trained craftsmen for the entire watch industry. This is a national ethos rarely seen in other countries. I see a more egalitarian society, where parents and children choose either the academic or apprenticeship route based on the child’s interests, aptitudes and passion”.

The 4G leader said that this would supplement Singapore’s existing success, where both the National University of Singapore and Nanyang Technological University have done well in international rankings and 9 in 10 students have job offers within six months of graduation.

“Society must broaden its notion of success. Meritocracy must also take on an enlarged meaning that represents opportunities and social mobility and be commensurate with the multiple pathway mobility and the education system.”

In 2014, ASPIRE Chairperson Indranee Rajah already proposed a similar scheme

Back in Jan 2014, the government formed a committee called ‘Applied Study in Polytechnics and Institute of Education Review’ (ASPIRE). The purpose of the committee was to look at ways in which policies can be implemented to let ITE and polytechnic graduates advance.

Chaired by the then Senior Minister of State for Education and Law Indranee Rajah. She visited Switzerland and Germany to the following months to study their vocational training model and implement the scheme in Singapore.

According to the report, Swiss students complete 9 years of formal education before they choose between an academic or vocational training route. Neither route is seen as more prestigious than the other, with more than two-thirds of students choosing the vocational route.

There, they take on a salaried apprenticeship while studying at the same time before graduating with a ‘Swiss Vocational Education’ Diploma. This diploma is an affirmation of a skilled worker and is highly sought after by employees.

That August, the Committee made several recommendations to the Ministry of Education, which includes a similar work and study scheme as well.

“Starting in 2016, Place-and-Train programmes will be launched for fresh polytechnic and ITE graduates in sectors which require deeper skills training. These programmes will be designed in collaboration with industry to ensure their relevance to industry”.

In other words, Minister Ong’s proposal was already suggested some 4 years back by his Cabinet colleague.

A quick check online shows that most polytechnic programmes offered in 2018 remains the same as 5 years back – it is a 3-year programme with 2.5 years of classroom study with an professional work attachment lasting 4 to 6 months.

So, do you think Minister Ong is recycling fluff? Or have the suggestions by his cabinet colleague 4 years earlier come to nought?

 

Kwok Fang Jie

 

 

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28 Responses to “The tale of two Ministers: Is Ong Ye Kung recycling fluff or has Indranee Rajah failed?”

  • opposition dude:

    “it is a 3-year programme with 2.5 years of classroom study with an professional work attachment lasting 4 to 6 months.”

    All of us who have graduated from poly can confirm that nothing has changed from back then. It’s still a few months industry based learning before you graduate.

    So the PAP has not really changed anything. Streaming is still done, just like it was when I was in primary school decades ago. We may have poly graduates yearly entering the workforce in their first jobs but it’s far from certain just how many actually get that chance.

    With the poor economic situation now it’s apalling that our graduates are forced into part time/freelance jobs while more than 200k jobs are given to S and E Pass holders at the drop of a hat.

    So, young people, how are you boys and girls going to vote come the next GE?

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  • Squirrel:

    Our political leaders seem always to be telling us that we should re-train to adapt to the dynamic of changes. Did it ever occur to them to look at themselves. They probably need to re-train & change their mindsets, too.

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  • orbit cha cha:

    it’s only natural that we “adopt the best aspects of the Swiss education”
    we already have their “Swiss standard of living” right…?

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  • orbit cha cha:

    ah chan vomit what pinky says
    yakun vomit what indah-knee says
    this proves the pigs are incapable of re-inventing themselves
    and are void of any, if not, all ideas
    it’s the same old sheet on a different day

    note to pigs:
    anything you say, remains on the internet FOREVER
    it does not go away
    everything is re-traceable
    every speech you ever made is out there
    the internet NEVER forgets
    even though many of us dafts do

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  • LIONS:

    If one look closely,one easily notices that ong ye KAN is very similar to his boss n benefactor,lee ah long.

    Both ACT SMART IN ARROGANT WAYS which make them look STOOPID!

    No doubt,ong ye KAN talks more than he will able PRODUCE.
    I take a bet here…time will tell.

    He lacks WISDOM N HE HAS NO TRUE HIMILITY.
    On the contrary,he is very *HOW LIAN*.

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  • rukidding:

    I most certainly am NOT IMPRESS with our 4Gs !

    Don’t think they have done anything that is “significant” ?

    If there was any thing “significant indeed”…..then….I think they can only “parrot” after their Naked emperor as well as “stroke the balls” of their Naked Emperor !

    Those “ill gotten ,Obscene salaries”…cetainly has alot to be blamed for their “changed behaviour and character” !

    Add in the 70% Dafts “balls rubbing”….

    …resulted in their “Head and Brain” swell !

    ….but all “empty vessels” !

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  • I'm Halimah also Jiak Liao Bee:

    Talk cock sing song, another one of these retards.
    What’s the point of talking so much when at the end of the day, jobs are given to 3rd world Trash and all your so called “talent” over our own lads ???

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  • My $8 heart bypass:

    Just another one of those junket trips to enjoy the Swiss scenery and chocs.
    Don’t you people think these PAPIGS are wasting tax payer’s money when they go to these trips and come back with the same story over and over again ?

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  • Director:

    Very talented , you and Halimah come clean with your ex Directorship with SMRT first la.

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  • OYK dont want u to go to UNI:

    APPRENTICESHIP SCHEME is nothing new to Singapore. As far back as I can remember they were already in existence in the 70s. There were the Vocational Institutes which I think is about the same thing as Polytechnics today. ONLY THING is there are more courses available today. Back then it was more tradesman/craftsman oriented.

    When those Vocational Institutes students graduate there were apprenticeship schemes available in the various related industries, shipyards, printing industries, building industries, machining/heavy industries, etc. I UNDERSTAND THAT Poly students today have to go thru some sort of internship before they graduate.

    FOR THOSE students who aced in their academic studies they would go for the Uni route.

    Ong Chee Bye was once with NTUC? Shouldn’t he be quite familiar with things like workers issues, trade unions, industries, internship programs for students, apprenticeship schemes and stuffs like that.

    He now talking like a frog that was let out of the well and then took a plane to Switzerland. Or OYK is the classic example of a ‘mountain tortoise’, a ‘swa ku’? Anyone know what was he doing in NTUC?

    Recycling fluff as in the topic title..such a spot-on description.

    What OYK sees in the Swiss Swatch factory or other swiss industries is not something people in Singapore did not know about until OYK’s visit. Its general knowledge.

    So this OYK guy is just another 4-goondus but when he talks he has a habit of making his speech sound grand as if it was soemthing new and some sort of ‘light bulb’ moment.

    What is new that ONG Chee Bye had discovered in Switzerland? Nothing! OYK had said nothing new. You are still what you are today.

    One thing is quite clear to see. OYK as the new education minister will be reinventing the wheel in Singapore. Sinkies brace yourself for the bumpy ride ahead. You could be worse off because Ong’s new wheel could turn out to be a square or rectangle wheel that gets you nowhere. Be wary of OYK.

    CONCLUSION

    OYK said that the Swiss workplace apprentice scheme is of interest to Singapore. But he is blind to the influx of cheap and low-wage blue collar workers, tradesmen/craftsmen from places like CECA India to break our people’s rice-bowls.

    BLUE COLLAR APPRENTICESHIP TRADITION had been destroyed by the influx of cheap foreigners tradesmen and craftsmen from CECA India. Did you see the electrician’s wiring your new BTO flats. They are from India. The systems is hard to reform because employers are now addicted to the low wage foreign labour. Sinkies are screwed hard by CECA India.

    OYK is really going via a very long route to hide his underlying agenda. Remember PAP do not want your kids to enter university even if they have good results in their studies. OYK…

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  • OYK dont want u to go to UNI:

    CONCLUSION

    OYK said that the Swiss workplace apprentice scheme is of interest to Singapore. But he is blind to the influx of cheap and low-wage blue collar workers, tradesmen/craftsmen from places like CECA India to break our people’s rice-bowls.

    BLUE COLLAR APPRENTICESHIP TRADITION had been destroyed by the influx of cheap foreigners tradesmen and craftsmen from CECA India. Did you see the electrician’s wiring your new BTO flats. They are from India. The systems is hard to reform because employers are now addicted to the low wage foreign labour. Sinkies are screwed hard by CECA India.

    OYK is really going via a very long route to hide his underlying agenda. Remember PAP do not want your kids to enter university even if they have good results in their studies. OYK had offered nothing new and no solution.

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  • Equality Was Stealthily Remove:

    There is no originality of ideas in the bunch of white liars and
    balls suckers.

    It is always copy here and there and then have the brazenness to declare
    it is their own ideas.

    If you look back at news reports local ones 25 to 30 years ago,
    there were govt talk of enhancing and boosting microbiological industry
    and of HSR from Malaysia to Singapore.

    Last two years, some pretentious White Shit again bring up this two
    issues.

    We now know HSR was just talk and more talk, nothing else.
    The microbiological industry is just an average type as it stands.
    Nothing cutting edge was ever done here and nothing new ever developed
    here.

    So we citizens need to watch out for lies and more lies.

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  • HarderTruths:

    More and more crap speeches that mean nothing.
    How can a communist state led by a despot and his cronies ever hope to become a full democracy?

    Switzerland is a full democracy – they people vote on everything and only then is policy reached. How is this going to be taught in schools?
    Never. This is all bullshit.

    The $G schoolkid will end up serving NS for two years and then serving FT for the next 40 years. If he is lucky. If not he will be in the democratic unemployed – where everyone is equally without a job or a future.

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  • Anon:

    ‘The best aspects of Swiss education’
    This is the problem of our policy makers. They refuse to see that the best aspects of Swiss education comes as part if a total.pacjage which includes a high minimum wage of about 30,000 swiss francs a year and traineesband apprentices earn somewhat more. To make a comparison, the Prime Minister is elected from representstives of the 23 Cantons and s/he earns approximately 500,000 only about 16 times that of an airport cleaner. So 30000 is a liveable wage. Plys they have all the sovial support to emcourage apprentices to focus on deepening and regining their sk8lls without worrying too much about how to survive. That is how the Swiss achieve their highest level of skills that we admire. Without all this assiciated support systems mimicking the Swiss is a waste of time

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  • Every parent's dream for kids:

    “Two years ago, I visited Swatch and saw how the company put aside intra-industry competition, and trained craftsmen for the entire watch industry. This is a national ethos rarely seen in other countries. I see a more egalitarian society, where parents and children choose either the academic or apprenticeship route based on the child’s interests, aptitudes and passion”.

    As usual, like in many other PAP civil servants’ ideas, OYK’s idea is just hot air. You will see how he is unable to make it work.

    They will continue to measure and value worth based solely on academic exam grades and reward scholarship award winners out-of-this-world salaries and a life of bed of roses thereafter, without having to compete or even to perform in their job, something you see rife in the PAP civil service.

    The biggest employer in Singapore is also infested with taxpayer-made millionaires and multi-millionaires. Knocking off at five and savoring the plans on another luxurious holiday trip. Which Sinkie kiasu parent will permit their kids to choose the apprenticeship route?

    Until vocational grads receive equal or due recognition in their worth and compensated accordingly, comparable to those who pursue an academic career, like they do in many other First World countries, such idea will end up as another failed idea.

    And they continue to receive their million-dollar salaries and bonuses. No need to perform. Or be accountable. Every parent’s dream for their children.

    Apprenticeship? No, no!

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  • Don’t speak with fork tongue:

    Every parent's dream for kids: As usual, like in many other PAP civil servants’ ideas, OYK’s idea is just hot air. You will see how he is unable to make it work…..

    Ya lor, this Ong chap likes to TCSS and just go in circles.

    One moment, skill is more important than degree. Another, future Piss Man not necessary to have degree. WTF does he mean or do effectively to improve education in Sg?

    This chap with small eyes like Lorry Wong can’t be trusted

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  • Don’t cry for me, Singapore:

    orbit cha cha:
    it’s only natural that we “adopt the best aspects of the Swiss education”
    we already have their “Swiss standard of living” right…?

    Nope . Only woody and white cronies are enjoying Swiss standard of living.

    Ordinary people, you die your business . Work till drop dead.

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  • Is OYK selling koyok:

    Every parent's dream for kids: As usual, like in many other PAP civil servants’ ideas, OYK’s idea is just hot air. You will see how he is unable to make it work.

    They will continue to measure and value worth based solely on academic exam grades and reward scholarship award winners out-of-this-world salaries and a life of bed of roses thereafter, without having to compete or even to perform in their job, something you see rife in the PAP civil service.

    The biggest employer in Singapore is also infested with taxpayer-made millionaires and multi-millionaires. Knocking off at five and savoring the plans on another luxurious holiday trip. Which Sinkie kiasu parent will permit their kids to choose the apprenticeship route?

    Until vocational grads receive equal or due recognition in their worth and compensated accordingly, comparable to those who pursue an academic career, like they do in many other First World countries, such idea will end up as another failed idea.

    And they continue to receive their million-dollar salaries and bonuses. No need to perform. Or be accountable. Every parent’s dream for their children.

    Apprenticeship? No, no!

    Is OYK trying to sell koyok to the peasants?

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  • Malaysia boleh Singapore bodoh:

    Squirrel:
    Our political leaders seem always to be telling us that we should re-train to adapt to the dynamic of changes. Did it ever occur to them to look at themselves. They probably need to re-train & change their mindsets, too.

    Retraining is an absolute waste of time and money. Why? Because whatever additional skill is obtained from retraining is of no use. Why? Because there will always be a “cheaper” (no CPF) foreigner with the same (or better) skill. He/she who surely will get the job.

    Without a level playing field in the local job market retraining is absolutely useless for Singaporeans.

    SOLUTION: VOTE FOR REGIME CHANGE AT THE NEXT GE.

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  • Life goes on in Sg:

    Hello, these idiots can’t even achieve the Swiss standard of living as promised by Unholy Goh.

    Now, they want to copy and introduce the Swiss model of education.

    Just collect your S$million salary and shut the fcuk up!! Nobody will call you dumb!

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  • GREAT qUESTION:

    All their experiences come from ARMY, what do you expect from them?
    All are “Pte Ltd” how to run a country? Run a Camp, yes!

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  • pap clown and his S$m gang:

    if so called ranking local universities are truly, TRULY, that good, why are there so many ah neh aliens FTs PRs in small island Singapore?

    if so called ranking local universities are unable to produce graduates who can find adequate, ADEQUATE, full time jobs, who has failed? the pap S$m overpaid under performing ffffing useless minister. PERIOD.

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  • NFI cabinet:

    Singaporeans r a daft lots as lky, a Queesn of England English banana aspirant has for once told the truth. But he rather fooled Sinkies with his queen english rather saying it in Singlish like Sinkies r stupid lah. But what makes him making such a political taboo declaration. Some seniors opined that blind supporting him despite of long damaging policies for Sinkies but in the interests of his nepotic family and sub nepotic families down the ranks and being a remarkably clever man but yielded to human temptation of greed and pychoclogically perturbed in his twilight days tried to amend by partial warning of their y perhaps from his concluding assessment of the PAP rookies the 3rd & 4th of but greedy & arrogant on empty tops. But Sinkies r stupid not to ponder over why such a veterant politician would stain his reputation as a suave & crafty political strategist wrt his successfully set his nepoticvregime in place after his careful nurture of a harem of plps with attractive rewards at the expence of the daft Sinkies.
    His warning has finally been substantiated. Looking at the Trump NK Summit. Both parties r simply care no shits for workd peace but their own interest the nfi Nepotic plps and the nepotists think they r contributing to world piece & arrogantly boasted that they can be good mediator. before the summit they d Kim blackmail to provide free everything for the NK entourage,now including Trump. This is degrading showing that SIN has no role to play with the wolves & hyenas eating finding it hard to maul each other, now finding a stupid sheep that tear up H share.
    s enough is enough. This is the last straw when the nation dignity n integrity r surrendered by these nfi arrogant weaklings gone gleefulli silly with few pats on their shitheads. Vote the nepotists & the harem of plps biws out b4 they invite H help the foreigners to fleece H rape on our soil.

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  • Old Guards of PAP:

    GCT was the culprit for all the shits happening on our once beautiful homeland when he for reasons only the senior plps knew to agrreing to seat warm for the nfi idiot to complete lky’s erotic nepotic scheme. Now the living old guards r seeing how their successors trading the dignity and integrity of the nation by yielding to demands of the summit dual whovhave clearly no inerests in world piece exceptvto exert their filthy power.GCT was once praised by his schoolmate as a man of sensibility and integrity prior to his strayed path of depraving himself warmed for the creep. His schoolmates must have been impressed by what they saw, felt e he joined the greedy, hungry and brutish nepotist. If they r right, then he should stand & grab the divine opportunity given to salvate the damage he has caused while he is still hing relative to the lies of coming from the ashes. Perhaps he has done thru the exiled prince & princess but that is futile as the re shown with dispect to the dignity and solemnity of the Parliament empty on national issues while swarmed with nepotic grievance.
    Is GCT what he said he is when he rationalized that he n his cabinet should be paid millions or he is just bullshiting? Is he up to the caibre of Mahathir who boldly did
    what he did even at 93, some18 yrs older GCT? His old classmates aren’t so optimistic as they seemed to believe a fallen man has no guts forvif he has he would not have succumbed. The peanut is too sparkling green or him to throw up nvbe what he should havevbeen. Perhaps there is some if not thevwhole truth in this.
    Gct, u r given a chance, use it courageously to cleanse yourself & Singapore all the shits u have strewn.

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  • Apprenticeship? Yes,yes for me:

    Every parent's dream for kids:

    Apprenticeship? No, no!

    Apprenticeship? Yes, yes for me. No, not the Swiss apprenticeship this new GCT wannabe is promising us, to end up with a non-Swiss standard of living, promises the PAP are unable to deliver, but the million-dollar twenty-year kind of apprenticeship LHL went through learning the ropes of running the country.

    Only to end up derailing it, after so many years of training. Of course, the juicy part is that within the PAP ranks, nothing happens and you continue to collect the highest PM salary in the world. That’s the kind of apprenticeship for me. The kind of apprenticeship the PAP elites enjoy. Not the koyok OYK is trying to sell to the peasants.

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  • Squirrel:

    I think the 2 G4 leaders just want to be noticed & heard – just in case citizens ask, “ Chan/Ong what ” ?
    So they keep opening their mouths. What comes out of them is immaterial.

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  • Million $salary safe & secure:

    Squirrel:
    I think the 2 G4 leaders just want to be noticed & heard – just in case citizens ask, “ Chan/Ong what ” ?
    So they keep opening their mouths. What comes out of them is immaterial.

    Agree. Becoz these half baked chaps know that they’re being paid humongous salaries. So die die must say something. Even though they know that deep inside these recycled ideas are not going to take off.

    Most importantly, shit times reported and their jobs are done. Two three years later these bozos would be posted or rotated to another portfolio. Whew, nobody will remember.

    The whole damn thingy start all over again….

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  • OYK is a deserter:

    If he is so good, stay and fight it out at Aljunied. It’s not even a single constituent. Don’t be a deserter OYK!

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