Any Difference Between CHC And 70% PAP Supporters?

After the $50M fraud was uncovered, you still saw large number of CHC members camping outside court to show unconditional  support. And in additional, they still raised money for the court case and appeal.

A lot of Singaporeans went online to air their views, mostly negatively, classifying these CHC die hards as sheep and blind faith. CHC has largely escaped unscathed from the incident, they did lose some members but not significant.

As we compare to these die hards to 70% PAP supporters, do you see a trend or resemblance? You could present evidence, facts, logic and reasons but nothing will change their blind faith. Today, the PAP churned out a large number of unpopular or lousy policies but  people still want to vote them. We need to ask ourselves why?

Why do Singaporeans unable to discern what is right and wrong anymore? Why do Singaporeans so fearful of change? Why do  Singaporeans rather follow the piper into the abyss than to seek out new earth?

Is it what the psychologist would say, “Some kind of programming?” We call it brainwashing till you can’t or don’t want to think anymore. A self centred, selfish and blind faith society being molded by the system, churning out sheep.

 

Fatimah

 

 

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32 Responses to “Any Difference Between CHC And 70% PAP Supporters?”

  • guantanamera:

    liddat one lah .. charismatic movement

    guantanamera guan ni la guantanamera

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  • guantanamera:

    one promised to save your soul

    one promised to save your CPF

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  • Bapak:

    In another word, the saying “Stupidity has no cure” is absolutely true.

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  • True facts:

    All same same kena con.

    No diff.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    “A self centred, selfish and blind faith society being molded by the system, churning out sheep.”

    @Fatimah, you are very correct. Singaporeans are molded from young not to ask question.

    Here is the proof; Remember several incidences that parents could not help their kids to answer some math exam questions. Actually the answers were there if the students paid attention. Teachers already mentioned the answers and that was the only answers, right or wrong, it did not matter. Students never asked.

    For parents, they would not be able to answer because they think!! Students were supposed to regurgitate the answers that the teachers had given. Never mind right or wrong, teachers are always right.

    That’s also why our scholars, especially scholar Generals, screwed up everything they touched. They would not be able to think outside the “Ten years series”. Every thing that was not written in the books, they would have trouble handling it. Check out NOL, MRT, MOE, SPH and etc.

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  • Kan looNg chiNg:

    Sama same like Najib’s supporters lah, who even cried, hugged and kissed Rosmah some more.

    Amusingly, I’ve heard a handful amongst the 70% laughed and teased the CHC members without knowing the pot is calling the kettle black!

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  • Rabble-rouser:

    @ Fatimah:
    The whole problem begins with the PAP’s Educational Policies & Examination-biased mechanisms which leads on to the completely Politicised S’pore Economy. Frankly, the S’pore school system had been a complete failure. We’re now seeing the results & products of such failures within our country today. They don’t educate neither do they inculcate the thinking process with people.
    Look at the Meritocracy Policy for instance, it is an utter failure given the poor performance of the GLCs both locally & globally read: SMRT, SPH, Hyflux & NOL et al. Those Meritocratic Scholars helming GLCs are running the companies to the ground or getting disrupted by business & technological breakthroughs. Meritocratic Scholars are not geared towards the Knowledge Economy because they are products of an outmoded academic system which inculcate learning true & proven methods (body of old knowledge which had become obsolete re: selling of 10 year exam series); focused on memory tasks, shallow & mechanical learning (instead of fostering thinking capacity & expanding broad knowledge) & basically eradicate individualism & making mistakes (educational system is unforgiving (no-way back) & risk-adverse) thus making school a conformist, obedience-rendering & a military-type eco-system (I talk, you listen).
    If you compare CHC (or for that matter, any fervent religious movements) & the 70% voting core, the same characteristics shout out loud. Many are devoid of thinking capabilities as they rely on FAITH within their own internalized system to save them or provide them with reasons to go on with life. CHC (with religion dogma indoctrination, exclusive socialising within a group setting & psychological programming) vs PAP (Meritocracy Policy, Classical conditioning, learned helplessness programming using propaganda, pro-govt media, official memes). This mechanism is also dependent on sycophantic behaviour & cronyism for it to work. The common factor is masses of people listening to an elite core talking but not the other way around. No wonder you’re seeing a generation of sheeps being churn out onto the landscape. You see, it serves a political purpose but the outcome would be unsustainable. Like all sheeps, they are prey to wolves or predators within. What is a sheep except a herd instinct animal cultivated for their wool & meat. In short, they are exploitable & expendable! Look at the Electricity, water rate & GST increases, aren’t the 70% (who caused 100%) to be harvested like sheeps for their wool & some for their meat?

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  • oxygen:

    MOST OF THE 70% DAFTS are just Pavlov’s puppy of behavorial response.

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  • HarderTruths:

    I am no fan of the pappies but pappies never promised voters they will get to heaven and enjoy the afterlife with LKY.

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  • rukidding:

    Thank GOD you still call yourself, Fatimah .

    If you had called yourself ” Fatimah s/o Subramanium” …I would be laughing at your hypocrisy .

    Anyway,….no milo for you .

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  • The Other Hard Truths:

    It used to be that Wolves had to come in Sheep’s clothing in order to mask their identities, but these days Wolves can come in Wolves’ clothing and still the real Sheep will bleat out, “Sheep Sheep”

    Such is the deep intoxication of the 70%, and sadly and frighteningly demonstrates the immense destructive power of the propaganda juggernaut that the PAP has deployed over the past 60 years to steamroll the people.

    This very potent psychological warfare is waged from Day 1 of life on earth for Singaporeans………even in many churches today, LKY is raised to be even above God.

    This last aspect is not lost on those “leaders” of mega churches. CHC is just one. The other one is NCC – New Creation Church.

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  • opposition dude:

    The CHC people are blind supporters, the 70% are kiasee. That is the difference. The CHC raised money and all that because their blind faith led them to do that.

    The 70% only vote PAP because of being kiasee and forever thinking that the opposition cannot do the job. The 70% do not necessarily have blind faith in the PAP, some would like to vote opposition but alas, too kiasee to do so.

    So you have blind faith and kiaseeness. I hope a significant percentage of the 70% will wake the hell up come the next GE since life has not gotten better with a 30% water increase, S&CC increase and an upcoming 9% GST in the next few years too.

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  • Bapak:

    Give you guys an interesting question in our PSLE science exam. We had bright & smart guys, hardworking guys, lazy guys and streetsmart guys in our class.

    Everyone was given one piece of peanut and there was this question to prove the presence of oil in peanut. Everyone was puzzled how to answer such question and was staring at each other looking for hints. Until the bright & smart guy cannot tahan questioned the teacher how to answer such a ridiculous question.

    Teacher very angry, banged his hand on the table and told us no asking for hints or talking. Everyone was very shocked and unhappy. The streetsmart guy had gotten the hint. He put the peanut in between sheets of papers and use his hand to bang very hard to smash the peanut. There you are peanut oil on paper.

    To cut the story short. He failed his PSLE exam but today he is an interior deco contractor. Having his own company, richer than the bright & smart guys, retired at 50 yo, caused replaced by FT. And he is now a PHD (not P.HD., is Private Hired Driver).

    This contractor friend was a Hokkian peng during his NS days and drove a 3-Tonner. He was only called up ONCE for Reservist Training, thereafter they discharged him not on medical ground but he was paying himself S$30K per month as his own boss. Mindef buai tahan paying a Hokkien peng on reservist for that kind of money. No need to apply for deferment or keng. They saw they are losing paying such a lowly educated peng such obscene pay. What national interest comes first? Is all bullshit talk.

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  • LIONS:

    Well,what can one infer?
    The daft sheep that blindly believe in Con Hee also voted PAP?

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  • oxygen:

    Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates and former U.S. President Barack Obama read and recommended his books. And now this historian has an important lesson to the entire human race on planet Earth – “One thing that history teaches us is that we should never underestimate human stupidity. It’s one of the most powerful forces in the world.”

    http://www.financetwitter.com/2018/07/never-underestimate-human-stupidity-historian-whose-books-read-by-bill-gates-barack-obama.html

    Historian Yuval Harari is the Israeli historian who authored two dazzling bestsellers on the state of mankind. A professor at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem…….

    You see that in the investment world too. AFTER PAPpy Wong slammed on the ASDB – an unmistakable message from Govt that it will NOT TOLERATE any more upward escalation in property prices near to or higher than 2013 peak, A MOB OF GOONDUS STILL RUSHED IN TO BUY HOUGANG WATERFRONT, PARK COLONIAL etc grabbing the imagined 5% discount to beat the clock deadline ONLY TO WAKE UP NEXT DAY to see property shares got whacked down 15% – AN AWESOME SMACK DOWN OF 300% DISCOUNT INSTEAD.

    PAPpy Wong slammed on the break in less than 9 months of property price spiral AFTER 5 YEARS OF PRICE DECLINE. REDAS of course furious that property market is not given the time to discover its own price equilibrium but PAPpy Wong is correct. It is either a “smaller” correction now (the stock market give property shares a smaller discounted pricing of 15% downward adjustment the next day) or A FAR BIGGER CORRECTION LATER ( I presume this is at least 30% in comparison to Wong’s categorisation of smaller 15% hit in the face).

    PAPpy will have NO BAR of tolerance for the insanity of property bubble which Wong saw is formenting in the market-place. It is unsustainable to economic realities and a bigger price correction (if not stopped now) will do TREMENDOUS LASTING DAMAGE TO THE ECONOMY which might proved irreversible.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH – never mind if the bubble is 9 yrs old or just 9 months in the making.

    PAPpy Wong took out the cane and start whacking those who dare defy him. Well hundreds – it seems – defied him to beat his deadline AND GOT CANED BY PAPpy Wong once more and the financial market the next day of reality.

    UOL AND CITY DEVT SHARES GOT WHIPPED 15% down.

    THE MESSAGE IS UNMISTAKABLE – there is NO UPSIDE POTENTIAL in the private property market, ONLY DOWNSIDE from here – as long as PAPpy Wong holds the cane.

    Any property price escalation will see PAPpy Wong taking out a longer and fatter cane. He delivers first, then explains later.

    STILL THERE WILL BE STUPID ONES DEFYING HIM AND COME BACK FOR MORE.

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  • Equality Was Stealthily Remove:

    Wait for another 15 to 20 years, for the older, elderly generation
    to dissipate from the environment of Singapore. This group are
    barely literate and easily brainwashed and most are self centered
    and selfish.

    The newer, younger, internet savvy youngsters and voters will be
    different. By that time, things will likely change. Likely to
    see more OPPO members in Parliament and very likely new GOVT voted
    in, like in Malaysia.

    singaporeans, be boleh, like the Malaysians. Dont be bodoh again.

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  • Annual AGO's Report....:

    Year after year, same old problems surfaced.

    No action taken reflects a weak Gahment who dare not take drastic action.

    This simply cannot be tolerated time and again!

    We need to take serious action as hard taxpayers’ monies are involved.

    Some taxpayers can’t even use their CPF monies for healthcare expenses and Gahment agencies are wasting it like nobody business!

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  • Awaken:

    Mass Psychology at its best manifestation.
    No difference to idolising pop stars.
    When the party and celebrations are over, real hard truths bite.

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  • Perspective:

    You could call it herd mentality, pack mentality, or gang mentality. Google it to understand more. The only escape is to come out it to regain control of one reason and objectivity.

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  • PAP Cronies Self Interests:

    Big difference, one con leeder already in jail, the other is still free.

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  • Haigen-diaz:

    Lincoln was so prescient when he said….
    “You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.” These 70% PAP supporters & CHC die-hards belongs in that second category of “some of the people all the time.” Just one homogeneous mass led by the most dangerous, aggressive and resource stealing leaders. They are hopeless and tribalism will keep them loyal even when policies and actions turn out to work against them. Greed and power, you pick the order. They share the same deliberate ignorance, willful stupidity, and refusal to consider the possibility they could be wrong. Bottom line: these ‘die-hards’ are dumb as posts and susceptible to the same type of demagoguery that brought Hitler, Pol Pot and other fascists to power in the 1930/60s. Pain is the motivator for change. Let them suffer pain… And when they finally hit bottom, will they emerge from this psychological impediment called “Cognitive Dissonance”.

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  • ALL ARE CON MEN:

    Same same all out to con the people.

    Now all cpf gone.

    GST going to increase further soon.

    Good news.

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  • ShameOnYou:

    All the same animals. Even tremeritus is behaving like any political or religious party in regulating and controlling people or their comments. Who is in control, the temptation to be the thought leader or mastermind will always be there. In the case of Kong Hee, he had violated the law of another greater idolized leader than him. In Kong Kee domain of idolatrous power, he too arrogantly dealt with his followers(sued someone for defying his word).

    You cannot trust human ANIMALS who have even a modicum of power or advantage apparently.

    They are all…sinners.

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  • Irene Vanessa Wan Marbles:

    Be careful, people of various religions. I have of heard of religious leaders sing praises of PAP or even use the Bible to promote/justify PAP policies.

    Two things can make people illogical – religion and PAP.

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  • A Good Comparison!:

    After the Court case and jail terms imposed, the congregation has dwindled.

    Likewise, after the many ‘debacles’ in 2017 and 2018, support for the Whites is getting lesser too. The Voters have lost trust and that is why they need 3 Ministers to stage Walkabouts instead of one!

    Najib couldn’t sense it but many Singaporeans can feel it already!

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  • Pop Con:

    @LIONS

    Sir,you are so right.
    Think no difference between Con Hee and Con Lee.

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  • UniQ:

    OF COURSE THERE IS A DIFFERNCE !!

    CHC Members got CON TWICE, Both Ways … By Church and Country

    Sinkies just kena CON Once…Real BIG TIME wan…

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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  • haha:

    Yes, charlatans, conmen, quacks, comedian aplenty.

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  • Bobo:

    They are from the same 70% wave. Singapore was being ruined.

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  • Tatman:

    In Singapore, stupid people everywhere!!

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  • MarBowling:

    CHC(Con Hee Church) still packed with worsheepers all weekends loong. Still have and maintain faith with the teaching of Con Hee and Gang. How about NCC(New Con Church)worsheepers? Still keena Conned by that Pastor Joker Prince!

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  • Kong Hee Very Angry!:

    Why the Double Standard?

    AGO’s evidence of fraud aka financial mismanagement by ministries and stat boards invalid?

    Who is suppose to take legal action?

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