Why does Mindef think that self interest and national interest are mutually exclusive?

Mindef has appeared to defend its decision in rejecting teenager Benjamin Davis’ request for deferment of his National Service (NS) by stating that “Mr Davis’ actions are meant to further his own professional career, not national interest.”

As his father openly admitted, he is looking out for his son’s future, not Singapore’s.” What is wrong with a father looking out for his son’s interest? Isn’t that normal? Is Mindef seriously suggesting that looking out for the future of one’s offspring is something that ought to be reprimanded?

Besides, why can’t something be both in Benjamin and Singapore’s interest? It is certainly not mutually exclusive. If Benjamin can play football for Fulham as a Singaporean, this would benefit both Singapore and himself. Why is Mindef so narrow minded? Must it be a choice between Singapore and personal interest if it can be both?

Mindef goes on to say that Benjamin has no intention of returning to Singapore to serve his NS as “when asked during the deferment application process when Mr Davis intended to return and serve NS, Mr Davis’ father would not commit to a date and expressed that he would put Mr Davis’ professional career first.” I don’t see that as an intention not to return at all. I simply see that as an honest reply to a question that cannot at this point be answered. The elder Davis is not saying that the younger Davis will not serve NS. He is simply saying that when he serves will depend on how far his career goes.

Football at a professional level has a short lifespan. Why can’t Davis serve NS after that is over? Asking him to commit to a date when the training hasn’t even really begun is like asking a toddler how old he will be when he is as tall as his father? The fact that he will grow is certain but as to when and how far, that is anyone’s guess. Isn’t that the same thing here? Davis will serve NS. He just doesn’t know the exact time as it depends on which direction his career will go.

Are we as a nation or rather is Mindef as a ministry so insecure and myopic that we cannot bear to give a youngster a chance at success. Would we rather curb his progress just because the rest of us are perhaps not as talented as he is at football? I am not trivialising the rest of the Singaporeans who have had to postpone dreams and passions for NS but a lot of our pursuits may not be as time sensitive as that of professional football and Davis’ request needs to be looked at from that time sensitive perspective. Professional football is a finite career.

Mindef is asking Davis to commit to a fixed time when its own government can’t even commit to when they would increase GST! Talk about pot calling kettle black!

I don’t agree with Mindef’s summation and perhaps we need to reconsider the necessity of NS in the first place!

 

by Ghui

 

 

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23 Responses to “Why does Mindef think that self interest and national interest are mutually exclusive?”

  • BallsToYew:

    the army is not democratic. There is only one general and he is your father.

    A soldier live or die in the battle field depends on his commander. The battle field begins on the day he or she is summoned or call to duty

    Your obedience and responsiveness are part of the discipline and training. When the army tells you to fall in, you fall in even if your dead grandfather lee kong yu return from the dead objects or offers funny ideas.

    It is the army, not your grandfather’s camp you are going!

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  • survey recently:

    one shot two bird , one stone two bird ; all army generals are book worms and arrogant ; they think they have the best brain ; in fact when they come to the real working world ; they are really nuts ;f..kthemall.

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  • Bapak:

    This extremely narrowed minded G can never see Ben’s personnel interest can later translate to national interest. That’s why this Sinkland can never progress under PAP.

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  • clown pap double standard:

    now that Ben is in the limelight, and not part of clown pap clan, lan lan. must waste two years of his life being cheap labour.

    malaysia run road Ljs cow boon hwan and puthcheary both clown pap clan members, not a single day NSF NSR YET S$m from clown pap ownself pay ownself S$m BS. blatant double standard. of course clown pap and S$m gang shall chicken and hen reason why cow boon hwan and puthcheary no need single day NSF NSR but Ben does. but, hard to believe such chicken and hen reasons when defence of Singapore is the duty of every pink ic holder unless the malaysia Ljs both without Ljs. WTF.

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  • Serve NS? must be joking:

    If Benjamin made his career at EPL and drawing good salary, will mindef going to compensate his salary if he is force to serve his NS? Come on MINDEF be realistic, our rice bowl is more important than NS, give us a reason why should we serve the country? No need for me to explain further, Singapore is CHAO and FINISHed under LHL and all the USELESS MINISTERS n MPs. If LHL and clowns don’t care the citizen, give me one good reason why should we care to serve and why should we have to listen to the corrupt LHL and useless governent.

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  • Boh Kia See:

    It is the old dated Asian attitude that soccer or any other sport is “play” not “work”.

    But he is BD had signed up for Harvard, then Mindef will let him pursue his career and provide the deferment required. Not only that, BD will be treated with awe and reverence. Not so, because he signed up to play soccer.

    Soccer, like any other sport, carries with it prestige and rewards, just like any other profession. It requires hard work and discipline just like any other profession. It also requires special skills and talent and aptitude for the discipline just like any other profession.

    It is time that the PAP and its politicised military get rid of the biase towards sports and treat it like any other profession.

    Such an attitude is old fashioned and out of date. It shows how far back in history the PAP is. The PAP’s attitude have not moved since the 1950s.

    It is a shame for the country to blight the ambition and career aspirations of on young man.

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  • BGKL:

    Hey Mindeaf, does “national interest” belong to the chao papayas or the people? If the former, consider me an enemy of the state! Come and arrest me farkers! Pui!

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  • My $8 heart bypass:

    What do you get from doing NS, besides wasting 2 years of your life and 2 years lagging behind those foreign Trash coming here for their citizenship ?
    And did you really die for your country , or you wasted your life to protect those Clowns with their millions $$.
    Remember Trash are given scholarships and a job after they graduate, and you having to waste 2 years and pay for your own education.
    You daft 70% really enjoyed being screwed again and again.

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  • Kan looNg chiNg:

    Believe me when I say PAPgov is killing many of our young local talents especially for those whose families are just ordinary citizens. (I don’t know how elites will be treated.)

    My nephew from a branded school knows of many young talents who excel in sports – tennis, squash, table-tennis, wushu, athletics. Sadly, these kids all have to give up pursuing their dreams of doing something they’re talented in and passionate about when they reached the last year of JC to focus on their ‘A’ level. One of the talented kid who is a friend of my nephew even lament that he’s born in the wrong country. (Sob!)

    SG’s failure in the field of sports has always been blamed on parents for not willing to allow their children to do sports. Well, how to when we’ve a govt who is not supportive of our own local athletes? Our govt want you to show results before they give their full support. But how to achieve international results (and Mindef expects Olympic results!) if you don’t have ample time to train? 2 yrs in NS is not a short period of time. Some more that 2 years is the prime time of any sportsman!

    Look at the Davis now. It’s proof that those parents who did not support their children from pursuing sports do not regret their decisions, especially when their sons did well in their A level and went on to do medicine. These sons automatically get a deferment after completing their 3 months of BMT, don’t even have to ask for it. Imagine had they continue to do sports, they’d have ended up just like the Davis.

    Asking Mindef for a deferment to continue your sports dream is like asking them for the moon, it remains just a dream. Drea-ea-ea-ea-eam, dream, dream, dream….. as the song goes.

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  • Rabble-rouser:

    Ha-ha-ha-ha! NS is a meat-grinder that chews out our youngsters & wastes 2-&-a-half years of their lives. Frankly, the National Service system is totally obsolete because the nature of threats has changed. These days, the real threats are internal, not external. The PAP are mindlessly holding on to a outmoded doctrine of warfare like an overgrown 5 year old kid still sucking on a dummy (Chu-Chu).
    The reality of threats these days are terrorism, cyberattacks, border security & mass riots (all internal conflicts). Even warfare have moved upscale to using weaponized killer robots, weaponized drone planes & automated weaponry like laser-guided missiles. Soldiers will just be cannon fodder & massive collateral damage in a modern war setting today. Look at the recent threats within S’pore; they were all internal:
    * Jemaah Islamiah (Mas Selamat, intended terrorist acts);
    * Little India riots in 2013;
    * illegal migrants & overstayers into our shores; &
    * Recent SingHealth cyberattack stealing 1.5 medical records including PM LHL & GCT.
    Also, this (Ben Davis) has become an issue of self-actualization of an individual vs Paramount State control over an individual. What the PAP & MINDEF hope to achieve is only more brain & talent drain from these shores as well as greater renounciation of the S’pore citizenship. A lot of local core have migrated away from S’pore over the last 2 decades. Many migrated parents of age-reaching NS liability kids would have them renounced their S’pore citizenship identity & assume their new homeland citizenship. In the process, more & more offshored S’poreans would take up foreign citizenship & bring honour to their adopted lands instead of S’pore. And the PAP & their Paramount State system slowly fades into the sunset.

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  • 100%dont trust this gov:

    The PAPigs are just jealous, cuz none of their kids are gifted enough n ever got such a chance ..
    Their Selfish attitude shows…like saying “if i cant, you cant too”.
    I doubt Joe Schooling will come back to do NS…he may have oredy applied for USA citizenship. Be a right fool to return!

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  • Bapak:

    Simply put, those who are put in charge to lead including people in Mindef cannot see the big picture. This Ben’s saga is not just another ordinary personal gain or interest.

    Just answer this question – how many can be selected to sign up with EPL? Just look into the statistics, millions are trying yet not selected. Mindef, you think it is so easy like you guys can “buy” you way in?

    Sinkland doesn’t recognise her own talent when there is one standing right in front of them. They only accept 3rd and 4th world’s foreigners as talent. Very sad this country has such leaders.

    Questions is, what if Ben is son of the Min. of Defense?

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  • opposition dude:

    This is Mindeaf for you, they are so bo chup over enlistees’ deaths so you think they give 2 F’s over a deferment?

    As far as they are concerned, no means no. No point arguing with them, you won’t win. Better for Ben to just renounce citizenship rather than risk being jailed and all that. But he has to learn how to survive on his own if he renounces.

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  • Perspective:

    Personal dreams and aspirations don’t matter to the PAP unless they are in their “national interests” translated into Party interests, like for example, the nurturing of PAP scholar-generals and White Horse Elites.

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  • ace:

    It confirms again how arrogant our government and the ruling party are.

    Serve your country always, but serve your government when it deserves it (Mark Twain)

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  • PAP Cronies Self Interests:

    They need cheap slaves in army to exercise the paper generals for their promotions and to protect the stolen wealth of familee.

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  • The charge of the absurd:

    When some JC student gets an SAF scholarship and then goes on to pursue up the ranks of the armed forces is it not motivated above all by self-interest?

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  • Bapak:

    Yes, you reminded me of that “One shot, one kill” boast Quak before he started the train. He watched too much of American Sniper thought the world outside camp so easy to solve, didnt know the real train how its work. Then kenna what this stupid LJ culture doesnt know how to solve. Today he is playing with his choo-choo train set at home.

    survey recently:
    one shot two bird , one stone two bird ; all army generals are book worms and arrogant ; they think they have the best brain ; in fact when they come to the real working world ; they are really nuts ;f..kthemall.

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  • Thats all they know....:

    Control control control.
    Without it, PAP is nothing. ..a bunch of inept paper gen n scholars paying themselves mil$ salaries,to justify the illusion of their greatness.
    SG is no democracy, its an authoritarian state…controlling every aspect of this country n its people.

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  • Arrow shoots back:

    The soccer boy and his parents now maybe can understand what it means by :
    1st, they came for the Jews. I am not a Jew. So I bochup.
    Then, they came for the Dr Chew. I am not a Chew. So I bochup.
    Now they came for my ballah and me. There is no one left to help me.

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  • too cheem. what toking?:

    Arrow shoots back:
    The soccer boy and his parents now maybe can understand what it means by :
    1st, they came for the Jews. I am not a Jew. So I bochup.
    Then, they came for the Dr Chew. I am not a Chew. So I bochup.
    Now they came for my ballah and me. There is no one left to help me.

    paiseh too cheem catch no ball.

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  • Bapak:

    Well said, bro. Let this be a lesson for all the 70%.

    Arrow shoots back:
    The soccer boy and his parents now maybe can understand what it means by :
    1st, they came for the Jews. I am not a Jew. So I bochup.
    Then, they came for the Dr Chew. I am not a Chew. So I bochup.
    Now they came for my ballah and me. There is no one left to help me.

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  • Change We Must:

    To be fair, Ben should act like all Singaporeans, finish your NS obligation before pursuing you career. We all have already sacrifice ours ,so do your part. I believe there is an alternative, just finish your 3 months BMT and then ask for deferment. doable ?

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