It isn’t the 4 individuals that played into Dr M’s hands (assuming that this was his game plan), it was the Singapore government

After the now infamous meeting between second time Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir (Dr. M) and a quartet of Singaporeans, historian Thum Ping Tjin, freelance writer Kirsten Han, graphic novelist Sonny Liew and activist Jolovan Wham, the effects are still being felt. The Singaporeans have each had to endure an onslaught of internet slamming while two members of the PAP government in the form of Marine Parade MP Seah Seah Kian Peng and Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam have publicly chastised the quartet.

Have the 4 Singaporeans become the pawns in a proxy war between the two countries?

Ever since Dr. M took power the second time round, Singapore has been on high alert. It is after all no secret that Dr. M’s Malaysia (the first time round) and the establishment in Singapore did not always see eye to eye. That said, is it a little bit of an exaggeration for everyone to think that Dr. M is out to get Singapore and that everything he does is in someway to undermine Singapore? Somehow I doubt it. Much has been made about Dr. M cancelling the High Speed Rail project and wanting to renegotiate the water rates with Singapore.

But let’s put things in perspective, Singapore is not the only country that is affected by this project audit undertaken by the new Malaysian government. Does Dr. M also have an axe to grind with China? He cancelled at least 3 projects there.

Maybe the issue is less about Malaysia’s alleged agenda against Singapore and more about wanting to priortise the interests of Malaysia.

To a certain extent, making the Singapore government uncomfortable and forcing their hand on ongoing projects might be a strategy that an old hand at politics like Dr. M is trying to play. It may well be that the four Singaporeans are but collateral in the wider game plan. That said, I highly disagree with the notion proffered by some that Dr M. is hell bent on causing upset in Singapore. To be honest, he has better things to do. In the last few months, he has transformed pretty much the workings of the entire government.

Perhaps the Singapore government should spend less time focusing on the icing on the cake that is the 4 Singaporeans and spend more time on substantive issues – like how to work effectively with Malaysia without coming across like novices.

Even if Dr M’s plan was indeed to show Singapore up by meeting the 4 Singaporeans, the PAP government definitely played into his hands by reacting the way they did. They demonstrated their fear and vulnerability which in any high stakes negotiation is a no – no. Sadly, they gave Dr. M the upper hand. That’s not down to the four Singaporeans. That’s down to the PAP government. Instead of tackling Dr. M, they decided to turn on their own citizens and invite other Singaporeans to turn on them too. How nonconstructive and counterproductive.

A comparison was drawn by veteran journalist PN Balji. He said :

“First, don’t take your fight to other countries or to people outside Singapore. The public, with a government ever ready to beat the drum, just won’t accept it. That is the reality in a country where many have a stake in supporting the government. People here remain fearful of what will happen to them if they side with politicians that the government detests.

Remember what happened to opposition politician Chee Soon Juan when he went to Washington to raise questions at a presentation by then PM Goh Chok Tong at the Committee on Foreign Relations in Washington in 2004? He was roundly criticised for his confrontation-style politics and has paid a heavy price at the ballot box.”

It is important to remember that the four who met Dr. M are not politicians. Dr. Chee is therefore not the right comparison to make. They are not running for office and were purely there in their personal capacities. They are in fact voters themselves! They are not fighting for political gains. They are simply there because they want to be part of what is essentially a momentous event in Malaysia. It really has no bearing on the PAP government until the PAP government chose to make it so. In my opinion, it isn’t the 4 individuals that played into Dr M’s hands (assuming that this was his game plan), it was the Singapore government. In so doing, they have succeeded only in causing disunity in Singapore. Dr M remains sanguine as ever.

 

by Ghui

 

 

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20 Responses to “It isn’t the 4 individuals that played into Dr M’s hands (assuming that this was his game plan), it was the Singapore government”

  • clown pap clan members lie:

    when pap clown, with wife in tow, drove all the way to meet Dr Mahatir to congratulate him, Dr Mahatir gave pap clown a few minutes.

    heart of hearts, clear as day Dr Mahatir looks at pap clown with disdain, and gave pap clown the few minutes out of basic human courtesy, nothing more.

    imagine pap clown fury when non entities from Singapore, and one a so called fugitive (in the eyes of clown pap), some 80+ minutes by Dr Mahatir. imagine the slight on pap clown.

    of course, since pap clown cannot bully the big, being Dr Mahatir, pap clown, as usual, bullies the small, being the non entities from Singapore who met Dr Mahatir for some 80+ minutes.

    suddenly, all manner of fixing by pap clown clan members take place. a low ranked stooges such as seah lan, and some s*ake oil ranking stooges such as snakemugam. the best joke of all, suddenly, there is this RED line that is crossed, even though how Singaporeans look, left, right, centre, above, below, under, not a single so called line, whether RED, black, white, or any colour ever exists before the non entities from Singapore meeting Dr Mahatir.

    long story short. ALL the noises from pap clown clan members all for show, to save face, to smooth out the slight on pap clown by Dr Mahatir.

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  • patriot of Temesak:

    They INSTILL the Fear Factor upon the Nation and today they are LIVING in Fear of what had HAPPENED in Malaysia???

    Ironical??? or Karma & Retribution???

    Repent & Repay (CPF…ConYou paid in Full in Hell) or Resign and Repent (Owl’s DEADLINE 2019)

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  • Songshu:

    Basically the Paps esp Minister Shan have got too big for their shoes that they cannot accept anything that’s not inline with their thoughts. Please self-examine yourselves & the situation before jumping in to join in the chorus of the loud mouths.
    I’ve this feeling that with Harry gone, the eyes of high expectations of his staff were removed. And the mice are beginning to play; to enjoy a large degree of freedom. I would like to hear less from Minister Shan actually. He has talked too much unnecessarily. Maybe it’s showing off time for him – even if it’s showing off rubbish ?

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  • consensus by manipulation:

    the pappy are easily manipulated by others. CHina India knwos thta and they recently tried mind run on the pappys, even DR M knows that.

    1) make the pappy feel they ar ebeing challenged
    2) Bring them into the game
    3) deliver shock

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  • Malaysia boleh Singapore bodoh:

    PAP was so afraid of regime change that it “wrapped itself with the flag” and basically called the 4 activists “traitors”. A really stupid move. They are not politicians. They were promoting an idea – democracy, free speech, human rights, etc. By being defensive PAP confirmed that these are not present in Singapore. A big mistake – an “own goal” by PAP. How stupid can you get?

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  • Bad Boy:

    @ Does Dr. M also have an axe to grind with China? He cancelled at least 3 projects there.

    Yes he’s pro china. His statement on Forrest city and SCS says it all. Like others they welcome the monies bit not their people nor their style.

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  • Bad Boy:

    Typo error.

    Yes he’s not pro china. His statement on Forrest city and SCS says it all. Like others they welcome the monies bit not their people nor their style.

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  • Bapak:

    PAP is so afraid to lose power to the extend they will kill their own shadows. PAP became very paranoid when they did many evil things to others. They are constantly guarding their own backsides afraid one day someone will stab them from behind, which they are the master at. They are hound by their own ghosts.

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  • Uncaring Government:

    I have a uncaring government.

    At $4,000 a month income, I hardly can make ends meet, let alone make any saving out of it. Yes, Lau Goh would labelled me as mediocre.

    But let’s say I manage to save 20%, so 80% is spent.

    So $4,000 X 0.8 X 7% GST = $224 of tax per month.
    So for 1 year $280 X 12 = $2,688 of tax for year.
    Over half month of my salary.
    Which is equivalent of saying out of 12 months, I am working for them half a month free for them.
    And that is aside from the personal income tax that I still have to pay to them, which is cheaper in reality, considering those “Reliefs” that can be applied [Wife, parents, children etc].

    And for those sad enough not working, can’t find a job. Logically, Zero Tax.
    But in reality, the GST is a form of tax even if he is not working.

    So effective, I have a uncaring government that prefer GST collection over Personal income tax, since is a definite collection whether you have a income or no income and additionally “Relief” cannot be applied. It’s illogical isn’t it?

    To think of the impending increase to 9% when many are out of jobs is even worse, can’t blame me to think that my government is uncaring.

    I have a uncaring government.

    Anyone promise me to cancel GST will win my “VOTE”.

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  • Haigen-diaz:

    The problem with some traditional leftist was that the more they tried to firm up their political agenda, the more they threatened to discredit the very values it aimed to realize. It seems impossible to establish, say, the idea of justice or democracy; so what exactly did you denounce in the name of? You cannot describe someone as oppressed unless you have some dim notion of what not being oppressed might look like, and why being oppressed is a bad idea in the first place. And this involves normative judgments, which then makes politics look uncomfortably like ethics. Because politics had been redefined as purely calculative and pragmatic, it was now almost the opposite of the ethical. Ethical arguments and politics cannot be absolutely separated; they have some organically internal interconnections between them. It must be dependent on societal and historical developments and never be stationary or stagnated. But whatever side you’re on, you have to be on the side of the rule of law. Power needed those values to lend itself legitimacy, but they also threaten to get seriously in its way. There is a middle ground. Leave it to the people. Before that day, the hereditary rulers decided, arbitrarily, who did what to whom? After that day, power derived from the people and, by extension, from orderly processes of law. We are going to fight out the moral conflict that Ghui describes in his article; but we’re going to do that with our votes, not through the 4 individuals or much less from Dr. M. That’s the lesson that should have been learned this week, and we’ll be very, very unfortunate if it wasn’t.

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  • Reality Hurts:

    Yes Bro, Well written. As good as saying, giving $2688 Ang Pow every year to us back. Better than the Merdeka conditioned bonus, definitely.

    Uncaring Government:
    I have a uncaring government.

    At $4,000 a month income, I hardly can make ends meet, let alone make any saving out of it. Yes, Lau Goh would labelled me as mediocre.

    But let’s say I manage to save 20%, so 80% is spent.

    So $4,000 X 0.8 X 7% GST = $224 of tax per month.
    So for 1 year $280 X 12 = $2,688 of tax for year.
    Over half month of my salary.
    Which is equivalent of saying out of 12 months, I am working for them half a month free for them.
    And that is aside from the personal income tax that I still have to pay to them, which is cheaper in reality, considering

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  • Bystander:

    Stupid Govt who fell into the trap of Dr M.
    The old hand even spent more than double the time to meet our activists, PM Lee was given only half hour.
    The Dr is laughing at the PAP greenhorns’ childish reaction to his staged meeting, now the 3G leaders must be shivering in their shoes, fervently hoping the old Dr would collapse from old age and leave the scene soonest to spare them having to deal with him.

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  • VTO surely 100%:

    My kids don’t need to eat, don’t need to wear new clothing, all save up let them EAT! and laugh us as “mediocre”. KNNB.

    VTO surely 100%.

    Uncaring Government:
    I have a uncaring government.

    At $4,000 a month income, I hardly can make ends meet, let alone make any saving out of it. Yes, Lau Goh would labelled me as mediocre.

    But let’s say I manage to save 20%, so 80% is spent.

    So $4,000 X 0.8 X 7% GST = $224 of tax per month.
    So for 1 year $280 X 12 = $2,688 of tax for year.
    Over half month of my salary.
    Which is equivalent of saying out of 12 months, I am working for them half a month free for them.

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  • HarderTruths:

    If Dr M really got angry then pappies will all shit in their pants.

    Only good for putting 16-yar olds in a maximum security prison.

    Other than that better get adult diapers because you pappies will never know when Dr M may get angry or say the magic word – ‘water’

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  • opposition dude:

    This is how stupid the PAP has become. We all remember in the good old days how they used to be so effective in demonising Dr Chee because of his antics. Worked wonderfully for them too. And all this without needing any outside intervention from another country but using the newspapers to project an opposition figure in a negative light.

    Just by calling the people traitors is stupid, what have these 4 done just by meeting Mahathir? Did they talk about destroying Singapore? Did they sell state secrets? No right, so why are they traitors simply for meeting Mahathir?

    The PAP in its over kan cheongness to paint anyone who is against them in a negative light has shown just how daft they can be. The same tactics that used to work in the past do not work anymore because not only has PAP’s standing in the electorates’ eyes gone down their effectiveness is a big doubt these days too. No one forgets frequent flash floods, an unreliable MRT system, 99 year flats we “own” amongst other issues.

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  • clown gang loyal to pap S$m !!:

    Uncaring Government:
    I have a uncaring government.

    At $4,000 a month income, I hardly can make ends meet, let alone make any saving out of it. Yes, Lau Goh would labelled me as mediocre.

    But let’s say I manage to save 20%, so 80% is spent.

    So $4,000 X 0.8 X 7% GST = $224 of tax per month.
    So for 1 year $280 X 12 = $2,688 of tax for year.
    Over half month of my salary.
    Which is equivalent of saying out of 12 months, I am working for them half a month free for them.
    And that is aside from the personal income tax that I still have to pay to them, which is cheaper in reality, considering those “Reliefs” that can be applied [Wife, parents, children etc].

    And for those sad enough not working, can’t find a job. Logically, Zero Tax.
    But in reality, the GST is a form of tax even if he is not working.

    So effective, I have a uncaring government that prefer GST collection over Personal income tax, since is a definite collection whether you have a income or no income and additionally “Relief” cannot be applied. It’s illogical isn’t it?

    To think of the impending increase to 9% when many are out of jobs is even worse, can’t blame me to think that my government is uncaring.

    I have a uncaring government.

    Anyone promise me to cancel GST will win my “VOTE”.

    bro, at least you have a job at S$4k.

    imagine those jobless with zero income. pay GST is squeezing blood. pay more GST is squeezing blood out of stone.

    if 70% sheep continues to think it is okay, ffff them.

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  • Naji boleh:

    I doubt Singapore can handle Malaysia.
    Now the hsr delay already showed so sovereignty compromised.

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  • Losers:

    Also LHL n his goons lost face.

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  • Change We Must:

    There is nothing wrong to meet anybody you want. But I cannot believe they want the old fox to speak about democracy in SEA. Don’t they know of his past records? How can an old fox change its spots, sorry fox got no spots hehe..
    Only Najib is willing to take away the ISA law, luckily he did or else he would be in there right now.
    LHL said he would follow Malaysia to dismantle the ISA law if they did it. But did he? He is not a man of his words.

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  • More Isolated Now:

    PAP thieves and cronies are fearful and conveniently pushed the mess they created in this country to Dr M and activists.

    Dr M is just stating the obvious. His lip service already created so much disarray to the evil establishment.

    Many leaders of other countries already have low opinion of the clown prince.
    They already know what the PAP leaders stand for, opportunists and only self interests, as such all moves were viewed with certain level of distrust
    and tainted with self serving motives.

    As a result, international relationships and negotiations with Singapore become very transactional now and lacking goodwill unlike decades ago.
    Maybe the clowns dreaming that they can be a shadow or a sibling of United States without the might.

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