How did 8000+ HIV+ FTs get passed immigration?

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that it is NOT our policy for HIV-infected FTs to be allowed to be employed in Singapore.

It is okay for them to be tourist, but to be employed and allowed to be in possible regular sexual contact with our wives and daughters and sisters and maybe even fathers and sons and brothers?

These 8000+ HIV positive FTs are employed in Singapore and may have already slept with someone we know!

My goodness, are we so desperate for FTs to inflate our GDP that we are now allowing our friends, relatives  and family members to ‘open legs’ for these HIV-infected FTs?

Not that I have anything against those with HIVs (they choose their own lifestyle which I respect), but it is after all a deadly infection which results in death.

Anyone agree with me or am I just paranoid?

 

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54 Responses to “How did 8000+ HIV+ FTs get passed immigration?”

  • Have fwl ok:

    Its ok as long as gahmen can collect their levy every month for their million dollars salaries and bonus. Lol.

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  • opposition dude:

    They will tell you these 8000 were infected whilst in Singapore working, yes every single one of them. And besides, that data is up to 2013 only if I remember correctly.

    Look at it this way, TB suddenly came back after being suppressed for so many years. You expect this government to do better ah?

    Look for more with 7 million on the island in a mere 11 years time hor.

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  • rukidding:

    Because we are now living in a “Messed up” cuntry !

    Even our two “Top Brass” of this cuntry have “identity crisis” themselves,….so how you expect them to “lead” and “show the proper way” ??

    One does not know the difference between an Indian and a Malay ?

    Another is “cross halfway” between a “Man / Woman” identity ?

    And to make worst,…his wife is also in the same “identity crisis”.

    This one….”looks and act” like a Man !!

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  • rukidding:

    Come to think of it,….that “backside doctor” ( son of punggdek ) sure got promoted pretty fast ???

    Wonder was there any “relationship” between him and that “hum” ?

    Who knows,…maybe that “Lucy Wong” Lawyer ( who also shot to fame and became the top brass Lawyer)…is his other “sex slave” ??

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  • Apek:

    Maybe SG can be an aids hub to boost our biotech industry to invent better vaccines so that we can boost our gdp and that translates to better bonuses for our politicians and civil servants?

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  • NotMyProblem:

    We should put the blame on employers. I am sure employers know the health status of their employees, don’t they worry about the health of other employees in the company? I know HIV could only be infested through sexual contact and I am not against this people lifestyle.

    Don’t we have enough of this that we need to import more?

    I just don’t understand why SG locals have to go through health check and verification of credential before he/she can be employed but when it comes to FTs, it is very lacking and slacking on this part. Fake degree can be accepted without question or any suspicious.

    Why Singaporeans always have the short end of the stick??!!

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  • Don't criticize us if .....:

    We are the best run country in the world for we have the most talented top scholars running our country and the civil service. Don’t criticize us if you don’t want to be harassed by us or detained or sued.

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  • Also worrying if sex workers:

    Also worrying if the HIV-infected are the sex workers. There probably would be even more HIV-infected Sinkies, and foreigners too.

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  • Gan KY also Jiak Liao Bee:

    The PAPIGS have been very welcoming to these Trash to boost their GDP to justify their million $$$ pay checks and bonuses.
    This is the only country where a Trash can come in as a tourist and start looking for jobs.
    And they are so very much welcomed and displaced out own locals mainly in the GLCs.
    So the question ought to be directed to the MOM Minister, and the simple answer is that he needs to ownself protect ownself for their iron rice bowls.

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  • HarderTruths:

    FT is not subject to $G law. They come here as they wish and do what they wish. They pass HIV as they wish and the gahmen hides all this.

    Why are you so surprised? Did you actually think $G locals are anything other than slaves?

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  • have to attend Travel Fair lah:

    HIV positive getting pass immigration?

    MOM civil servant: My mind is not there lah. I have to attend Travel Fairs to look for the best bargains for my next exotic holiday trip. Really enjoyed the last Cordon Bleu cooking holidays. So cheap wan. Cost only $50K. Where got time to worry about some silly virus slipping through?

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  • civil servant easily outwitted:

    Also worrying if sex workers:
    Also worrying if the HIV-infected are the sex workers. There probably would be even more HIV-infected Sinkies, and foreigners too.

    No problem. Singapore civil servant so easily outwitted. Blood test so easy to fool. They don’t check your passport so I send my friend for test. I come as FT and then become sex worker. Earn good money in Singapore.

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  • HarderTruths:

    By the way – how many here actually believe there are ONLY the 8000 HIV stated by MOH? Anyone want to guess the real figure?

    $G is probably the only nation on earth where HIV people can go in and out with no strings attached. How many do you think have made it here already? Good news like this travels fast in LGBT community.

    Think about that…..

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  • I can maybe understand the delay in releasing the information of the leak until they were forced to when the leak ended on the dark web.

    Maybe someone in the MOH’s certain advisory panel had suggested that the 14k or so HIVs+ may all be dead in a few years so no need to “throw face” (丢脸) and announce the leak to expose its incompetence?

    You say possible or not?

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  • HarderTruths:

    One last thing …

    Why has the Pink Dot movement exploded all of a sudden in the last few years and has so many major sponsors?

    Why has the government taken steps to limit the Pink Dot supporters & donors to only locals and local enterprises?

    Join the dots people…..

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  • Bapak:

    Totally agree. This is one skeleton that walked out of the closet from overseas, came back to hound them. There are surely many skeletons to unearth. Vote PAP out, open doors to skeletons, tighten on FT influates. Enough is enough. If you still hasnt woke up, you really are hopeless.

    TRE Techie:
    I can maybe understand the delay in releasing the information of the leak until they were forced to when the leak ended on the dark web.

    Maybe someone in the MOH’s certain advisory panel had suggested that the 14k or so HIVs+ may all be dead in a few years so no need to “throw face” (丢脸) and announce the leak to expose its incompetence?

    You say possible or not?

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  • LIONS:

    Not just HIV-INFECTED FTs,there are many more with very contagious diseases like TB etc.

    Not only do the greedy PAP$ters dump FTs to steal our jobs by using fake degrees;the PAP$ters also cause more sgs to be sick.

    Even as the population is seemingly augmented (FAKE increase though),the PAP is turning our once HEALTHY NATION INTO A SICK NATION.

    This is sacrificing QUALITY FOR QUANTITY.
    ONLY IDIOTS TAKE SUCH A STOOPID N SUICUDAL APPROACH.

    LEE AH LONG IS ONE STOOPID MULE.

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  • If I may render a (tic) guess on a snowing day, the official reply (if any) would probably be something along the lines:

    We (the respective ministry) requires all employment pass applicants to declare if they are HIV+ or MAYBE the ministry did screen the applicants for HIV but at that moment in time, they were not HIV+. It is therefore reasonable to assume that they contracted HIVs from locals whom they socialise with.

    Thus It is not fair to blame the FTs for ‘importing’ the HIVs into the country but should blame the locals for ‘exporting’ the HIV to these FTs.

    In this respect, the ministry has done its job diligently and it would be unreasonable for the public to expect the ministry to stipulate that the FTs do not ‘open legs’ to the locals as it is their basis human rights.

    What do you think? ROTFL

    .

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  • Dr. Chan:

    Be extra careful when you go to Geylang. Be sure to wear double layer protection.

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  • Perspective:

    Years back, my family’s pedriatrician told me that HIV was going to be a serious problem in SG and his prediction came true. There could be more undetected cases than what the official record shows. Maybe it’s time to make routine testing for HIV, TB, Hepatitis for all. What do you think?

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  • paid more than most PM's:

    civil servant easily outwitted: No problem. Singapore civil servant so easily outwitted. Blood test so easy to fool. They don’t check your passport so I send my friend for test. I come as FT and then become sex worker. Earn good money in Singapore.

    These superscale salaried scholar civil servants who are paid more than most Prime Ministers in the world by the PAP elites, and who are responsible for overseeing the compliance with the regulations likely didn’t understand their job, or the gravity of the consequences of non-compliance (much like the also superscale salaried scholar Generals and commanders and policemen). And probably didn’t have any effective protocols in place.

    Of course, in the private sector, they would have long been given the boot for their private sector bosses would feel the pain. Not their civil servant bosses though. Their civil servant bosses are also isolated in their ivory towers, and probably as unaware or ignorant as their subordinates as to what is going on under their watch.

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  • 8000+ HIV+ only tip of iceberg:

    How did 8000+ HIV+ FTs get past immigration?

    Wait till you find out how many more were able to slip in without even being detected for being HIV+, the bottom part of the iceberg. They are here and are HIV+ and our extremely highly paid scholars probably have their minds on their next exotic holiday trips or the stock markets.

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  • So who is more talented?:

    civil servant easily outwitted: No problem. Singapore civil servant so easily outwitted. Blood test so easy to fool. They don’t check your passport so I send my friend for test. I come as FT and then become sex worker. Earn good money in Singapore.

    So who is more talented or street smart? Our scholar civil servants or the sex workers?

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  • So who is more talented?:

    paid more than most PM's: These superscale salaried scholar civil servants who are paid more than most Prime Ministers in the world by the PAP elites, and who are responsible for overseeing the compliance with the regulations likely didn’t understand their job, or the gravity of the consequences of non-compliance (much like the also superscale salaried scholar Generals and commanders and policemen). And probably didn’t have any effective protocols in place.

    Of course, in the private sector, they would have long been given the boot for their private sector bosses would feel the pain. Not their civil servant bosses though. Their civil servant bosses are also isolated in their ivory towers, and probably as unaware or ignorant as their subordinates as to what is going on under their watch.

    So why are they paid top private sector salaries without the accountability or the competition that compels one to perform like in the private sector?

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  • reeee:

    PAP wont take ownership for anything, they will blame someoene else or find some low rank to take rap.

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  • why paid top pte.sect.salaries:

    So who is more talented?: So why are they paid top private sector salaries without the accountability or the competition that compels one to perform like in the private sector?

    They pay themselves, by forcing it down on the throat of citizens through despotic oppressive rule with the use of the civil service machinery including a gangster police force and a stable of kan**roos and a msm propaganda machine to paint black white to let them get away with the abuses.

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  • You Die Your Own Business:

    Feeling Rich with all the levies and cheap labour.

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  • it's only the taxpayers' money:

    paid more than most PM's:

    Of course, in the private sector, they would have long been given the boot for their private sector bosses would feel the pain. Not their civil servant bosses though. Their civil servant bosses are also isolated in their ivory towers, and probably as unaware or ignorant as their subordinates as to what is going on under their watch.

    Yeah, no pain. Poor performance? No performance? No sweat. I don’t suffer or feel the pain.

    Like that gigantic $200b+ hole they blew in our reserves incompetently mismanaging our sovereign funds. No sleepless nights. After all, it’s only the taxpayers’ money.

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  • What does exam grades measure?:

    civil servant easily outwitted: No problem. Singapore civil servant so easily outwitted. Blood test so easy to fool. They don’t check your passport so I send my friend for test. I come as FT and then become sex worker.

    Indeed, so easily outwitted and fooled. They are top scholars. What does exam grades measure?

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  • waiting for an answer:

    What does exam grades measure?: Indeed, so easily outwitted and fooled. And these are supposedly ‘top scholars’. What does exam grades measure?

    Minister of Education, are you going to give us an answer?

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Sama2 lah!!! just like the Fake Degrees they have Fake Medical Certs too…

    Its ONLY money leh!!! like Jib Kor the Brudder of the Lame Dragon said: “Kash is King!!!

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  • FT is good for SG?:

    bananaland has the highest rate of hiv cases in the world.

    HIV cases up 3,147 percent in 10 years >
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/philippines-hiv-cases-3147-percent-10-years-180219090618348.html

    cecaland has very high cases of TB.

    Why Does India Lead The World In Deaths From TB? >
    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/11/09/561834263/why-does-india-lead-the-world-in-deaths-from-tb

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  • Hmn:

    Any of Pappies miniSTIR got employ personal hiv helpers n assistants?

    They should be lauded if they do!

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  • Mantoux Test TB:

    Years ago, our Japanese mnc was called up by authorities to go for mandatory screening only after a FT who had been coughing badly in office for a long time and later diagnosed as TB after his cough was full of blood.

    The IT office had many employees. Mostly india nationals and many philipinos and some Singaporeans. After screening , many were found to have latent TB inside their bodies.

    There is a treatment given to these. They need to take medicine for months.

    There could be side effects from taking these medicines.

    I feel that there is no mandatory screening of TB using mantoux test for every FT or workers that are given approval.

    Some maybe asked but not all.

    The FT has been working in Singapore for over a decade. How many have he spread the disease to? Office is a close contact area.

    I myself was found to have the TB in latent form. I estimated about 20% screened positive. If we extrapolate this to the national level, how many have tb inside their body?

    I cannot prove it but my gut feeling is a significant number already has latent form lf TB. They must have caught it from someone. IB does not grow or originate inside our body. It’s a communicable disease.

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  • Mantoux Test TB:

    In the west, if such a tb case happen, the local citizen employees who got infected woyld have launched a class action suit against their employer. But singapore is singapore.

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  • MOM Bochup:

    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hiv-data-l…141203287.html

    HIV data leak: MOM takes ‘risk-based approach’ in assessing employment pass applications

    The Ministry of Manpower (MOM) takes a “risk-based approach” when verifying employment pass applications, MOM said on Thursday (31 January) in response to media queries about an American fraudster at the heart of a major HIV data leak.

    An employer or authorised third party has to apply for a candidate’s employment pass.

    “Before making an application for an employment pass, the employer would have already evaluated the candidate, including his qualifications,” said the MOM spokesperson.

    She added, “The majority of employers take this role seriously, as they also have an interest to ensure that their selection and recruitment of foreigners is rigorous.”

    When asked if the MOM had separately verified Brochez’s credentials, the spokesperson told Yahoo News Singapore that it takes “a risk-based approach” by “conducting additional checks and verifications on selected applications”.

    The ministry’s criteria for the selection is not known.

    = = =

    MOM: Employer ok, we approve. That’s how India FTs hire other India FTs. Ditto for HIV people.

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  • nizhemoshou:

    what about those very obese in appearance and handicapped ? If you go out often, shopping , taking the buses n trains , you will see them and they are not locals going by their physical appearances, attire , behavior or foreign tongues or accents.
    Those handicapped I came across were a deaf person working in a dept store. an middle aged angmo on wheelchair coming out fr office building joining the lunchtime crowd n a middle aged new ah neh in a train on wheelchair . Knew he is new ah neh from his crass appearance n behavior eg playing Bollywood music on his cellphone loudly n looking around at others feeling so proud of it. Mind you both cases were on wheelchair not bcos of some injured or broken legs but look like they have some health issues that rendered them unable to walk

    Was shocked to see all these chapalan kind who definitely look nothing like a Ftalent or quaify as one in any other country . So how on earth they can come to live amongst us n have since bcome part of the feature n human landscape of Singapura. Had commented on it in the past as it worries me then. Worrisome bocos it meant the pap bastards have simply opened immi doors to all n sundry fr the 3rd world. So hardly surprising news TB or this HIV positive aliens have come thro IMMI N MOM open doors.

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  • Mana Ada Screening ???:

    This is a clear sign that the govt is falling apart ! How effective have the screening been, when HIV carriers, and those with fake qualifications can get work permits so easily ?? With their negligence, the rot has set into the whole system. Very soon, we will be no 1 in terms of being the country with the highest incidence of HIV-infection !!

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  • Bapak:

    Those who got it and those who voted for PAP, you have to blame yourself for being too trusting with this Open-Legs government. Hope you won’t spread to your family, children, parents & grandparents. Don’t blame anybody except you. Good luck or game over, bye-bye.

    Mantoux Test TB:
    Years ago, our Japanese mnc was called up by authorities to go for mandatory screening only after a FT who had been coughing badly in office for a long time and later diagnosed as TB after his cough was full of blood.

    The IT office had many employees. Mostly india nationals and many philipinos and some Singaporeans. After screening , many were found to have latent TB inside their bodies.

    There is a treatment given to these. They need to take medicine for months.

    There could be side effects from taking these medicines.

    I feel that there is no mandatory screening of TB using mantoux test for every FT or workers that are given approval.

    Some maybe asked but not all.

    The FT has been working in Singapore for over a decade. How many have he spread the disease to? Office is a close contact area.

    I myself was found to have the TB in latent form. I estimated about 20% screened positive. If we extrapolate this to the national level, how many have tb inside their body?

    I cannot prove it but my gut feeling is a significant number already has latent form lf TB. They must have caught it from someone. IB does not grow or originate inside our body. It’s a communicable disease.

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  • Vote OUT:

    Its so damn obvious… all these serious major lapses n failures…. Years ago, MOM happily n blindly open our SG door so widely to welcome all types n kinds of foreign workers… mostly mediocre workers. Our govt agencies r so complacent n trust these foreign workers so very much that theres ni need to further check/verify their edu certs… but for local applicants, agencies n companies will check like crazy.
    The obvious rot & decay in our govt agencies n ministries r all showing up …serious gaps, holes n long term impactful negative conseqyences for us citizens.
    All the YES people, arrogant elitists, herd mentality & groupthinking in PAP & govt agencies are destroying our SG island!!

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  • Pateiot:

    We must remember that the PAP government has for many years promoted policies to intentionally increase the unemployment rate among Singaporeans by importing massive number of foreigners to compete for jobs, dig spurs in our hides, hollow out singaporeans from sectors like IT and banking, and to allow discriminatory employment practices (hiring own kind) to be entrenched in Singapore. So no wonder an Aids infected FT with no qualifications can thrive in singapore

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  • Oppo:

    In most big companies & MNCs, there r always more foreign workers than local citizens…here in SG island.. we became strangers n also being forced out or forced aside by massive foreign mediocre workers here!! Look at Philipines, poor country n overpopulated,.. no birth control due to their religious beliefs. Those yaya papaya pinoys all come here , flood the job market here… All these foreign mediocre workers only come to SG for the $$$”. They hate Sporeans but like our govt n salary. This is the negative long-term damage n consequence of ignorant n foolish govt MOM opening doors widely for waves of average foreign workers to flood these country & down many of its citizens out of jobs.

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  • 2 pondans create juicy scandal:

    How did so many get in? Easy. Close your eyes and spread your legs. That’s how the FTs clear immigration and employment pass tests.

    If you die die must fiak foreigners, please use condoms. Must practise safe sex at ALL times. Wear a diving suit if need be. Better still space so small, donch have sex. Otherwise your neighbors can hear those moaning, groaning and screaming.

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  • Very Troubling Indeed!:

    Both MOM and MOH must take responsibility for being lax in scrutinising academic qualifications and verifying medical status of foreign talents into Singapore.

    How can this happen?

    Please do a mustering of all FTs in Singapore and take immediate action to identify those who cheated their way into the SG Workforce.

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  • Wankers Party:

    Idiots’ perception are generated by the media contents brainwashing them.

    What they hear are cleansed info.
    So they keep perceiving reset.

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  • Pangsaitonic:

    Bapak:
    Those who got it and those who voted for PAP, you have to blame yourself for being too trusting with this Open-Legs government. Hope you won’t spread to your family, children, parents & grandparents. Don’t blame anybody except you. Good luck or game over, bye-bye.

    Don’t be so sure you dun have it.
    Go to CDC ask for a mantoux test. It’s cheap,simple and rather unintrusive. Results in a couple of days. Unless every adult goes for the test, we won’t know the true extent.

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  • Audit MOM and MOH!:

    Please get the Auditor General Office to conduct a forensic inspection of process and procedures adopted by the two ministries.

    Far too many co*kups in recent years.

    Gahment must not hesitate to remove the Ministers if they are not performing!

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  • Regime change now a must:

    Another compelling reason for regime change.

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  • pap agend:

    That is what netizens said Rampant import of foreigners according to the dead old man’s legacy left for his imbecile to kick the arse of the dafts who faithfully adore him n faithfully voted these biws into parliament. So what is better than to have as manny hiv to spread the virus. Isn’t that fits onto the greed, hunger and aggression of biws n now the gorilla plps n their slippered urchin young gorilla, What do u think they r after the Harvard academic the old man’s willed second successor. Gorilla felt used n rebelled with negative investment n beed her own plp not really appropriate than fart worms. grapevines have it that the next seat warmer for young street urchin gorilla r gorilla relatives n top ranking fart worms. The old man must be kicking his own arse if he can to have unwittingly get a momo for the weaking n turn up to be eating his dynasty. In other words the dafts who still hold faith with the dead old idol vote pap again, they will be voting against the idol. So must as well vto n vote in all other parties to let them form a coalition checked n balanced govt.
    If pap is foreign biased. Gorilla will be nation biggest traitors!

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  • Time to move out:

    Time to move out this HIV infected land!

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  • Blood test for everyone:

    I think our gov shd implement the same rule as usa & some other 1st world places…where a blood test is compulsory to apply for a marriage licence..
    It also tests for other illnesses.
    Helps protects both partners..
    Dont check ,wont know.

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  • The No Brainer:

    The answer to this amazing foreign HiV number is a self serving greedy ministar making the policy and many sleeping poh Lampar custom officers.
    How do they manage to stay there for so long? A bunch of daft voters.

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  • 'flooding' your senses:

    //Years back, my family’s pedriatrician told me that HIV was going to be a serious problem in SG and his prediction came true. There could be more undetected cases than what the official record shows.//

    aiyoh. not only HIV lar, a lot of other standards lar. 6.9m (going 10m ?) open leg policy from people coming from all surrounding chat-ba-lang countries with chat-ba-lang standards (well did not sinkie land always like to ‘boast’ our more superior standard).

    white idiots are ‘flooding’ your senses (till you adapt) and daft sinkies treat it as a norm lar (later this lousy standard will become the new normal) like all chat-ba-lang countries where these so call hungry street smart talents come from lar – unlike daft daft kiasi kiasu sinkies.

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  • Contradiction:

    In the latest IPS conference George Yeo mentioned that itis in our National Interest to have a diversified National Genome. Perhaps he’s right but the execution by the ministries leaves a lot be desired. Many loopholes in the policy implementation that until today Singaporeans are still paying the price. So much so that the public is voicing their concern & consternation.

    I hope that the govenment can roll I up their sleeves and pay heed to all the voices from the ground & act on it.

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