The final death dagger stabbed into alternative media

Most people would look at the ‘Fake News Law’ at a superficial level on first sight. This is always the tactic used by PAP-controlled Mainstream Media to mislead people into looking at the big punch while avoiding the poison darts and daggers hidden in that thick legislation.

While we are busy criticising why political appointees like Ministers would be given such huge power to decide what is true and what is false, we miss the whole poisonous intent of this law.

The potent poison actually lies within the details.

Hidden within this legislation is the intent to force the closure of all alternative media by taking aim at advertisers and sponsors of alternative media, instill fear into them while putting an “exemption clause” so that it could be used to exempt PAP’s Mainstream media.

Facebook and other international media platforms are so against this law because not only would the owners of these platforms be criminally liable, advertisers and sponsors on their platforms as well could be criminalized by PAP government as “supporting fake news”!

The proposed law (which would be passed without a single doubt) says that if a website or internet platform has been found guilty of deliberate spreading of “fake news” 3 times or mor within 6 months, those who donated to, or advertised on, these sites could be charged in Singapore court as well!

Now you know why there is an “exemption” clause which gives PAP great power to exempt SPH, Mediacorp and media under its control from this law. Because even these media outlets could not be sure that each and every news they broadcast is True!

On the other hand, who would dare to advertise on alternative media platform if this law is passed? Who would dare to donate to these entities to face the risk of being prosecuted by PAP government if these media get into trouble with Fake News legislation?

This law is a total farce. It is making use of the excuse of curbing “Fake News” to empower PAP Ministers with enormous Judiciary powers to thumb down internet media which they do not like!

It goes against the spirit of Rule of Law whereby the Judiciary will be totally by-passed and smack of Rule by Law of a dictatorial power which will decide who will be exempted and who will be prosecuted!

If Singaporeans do not wake up to such blatant facts but chose to believe in PAP’s sweet talk of its weak justification to empower themselves with such dictatorial powers, I fear Democracy will leave us eventually one day.

 

Goh Meng Seng

 

 

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32 Responses to “The final death dagger stabbed into alternative media”

  • Perspective:

    What if all the internet providers decide to boycott and prevent access to their services, and tech companies pulled out of SG? Can they? What will happen to the country? LOL!

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  • Regime change is the solution:

    Fake News Law will not save PAP. It shows it is desperate because it has failed Singaporeans big-time after LKY stepped down . Social media and the Internet will “kill” PAP. (That is why China tightly controls them. Unlike in Singapore, there are no elections in China.) PAP can control media but they cannot control how people vote. The (whole) truth will get out via the Internet and social media.

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  • oxygen:

    BEAUTIFULLY SAID, GMS – they might as well simply legally define FAKE NEWS as ” anything makes a non-trivial contribution to the cause of the process” and exempt themselves to be above this law.

    THERE IS NO NEED TO DEFINE WHAT IS FAKE IN THIS DEFINITION OR NO DEFINITION IN REALITY. It is a legal abstract.

    Lawyers will tell you this is a CATCH-ALL ambiguity of law definition and its provision even to include those who are silent, mute, see-no-evil-talk-no-evil, self-doubting Thomases etc etc, in the face of ugliness and mischief evolving to rightly the perpetrators of censorship concealment, official diam diam diam to the purveyors of 1% truth, 99% lies, fantasy and propaganda, all kinds of scam BUT OF COURSE CAREFULLY AND SELECTIVELY EXEMPT THEMSELVES AND THE PEDIGREE from such draconian wide ambit of what is FAKE legislation.

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  • vincent tan:

    day in day out mind bombardments
    indon fake news
    india also many fakes
    facebook faking
    etc
    etc

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  • oxygen:

    IT IS SHAKESPEAREAN PROPORTION OF FAKE LAW CREATION serving the cause of their own political hegemony and longevity.

    If voters remains as stupid to impossibility as HI-FUCK investors, it is the end of survival route/journey for LEE-jiapore.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    “If Singaporeans do not wake up to such blatant facts but chose to believe in PAP’s sweet talk of its weak justification to empower themselves with such dictatorial powers, I fear Democracy will leave us eventually one day.” – Goh Meng Seng.

    We have 7 out of 10 adults in SG holding every kind of degrees and the rest with other qualification. Even cleaners and security guard need certificates. Can Singaporeans be smarter than Malaysians?

    Malaysians could sensed something wrong with 1MDB and kicked out the culprit. Even their PM Dr. Mahathir anticipated what will happen with “Fake news” law; “.. We do not want any government, whether this or succeeding governments, to make use of this law in order to tell and create fake news in order to sustain themselves.” and trust Malaysian people!!

    For those who only read the Shit Times, let me copy and paste what other parts of the world said about this “fake news” laws;

    Financial Times (FT) asserted: “Top-down approaches risk being abused and turning into censorship. The best way to tackle fake news is to teach consumers to identify and reject it.”

    The publication noted that there is a “clear risk of a future in which governments dictate what is “true” to their populations” and that governments that implement such sweeping legislation could be accused of hiding the truth.

    FT’s editorial board warned that “democracies must be wary of introducing anti-fake news laws that could be misused, and provide cover for authoritarian regimes to take ostensibly similar steps with more malicious intent.”

    Robertson said that he expects the new bill to be used for “political purposes”.

    Asserting that the “Singapore government has a long history of calling everything they disagree with as false and misleading,” Robertson added that he expects the government to go after Reporters Without Borders (RSF) if the bill is passed.

    “.. the new bill may position the government as an arbiter of truth and that avenues to appeal corrections, takedowns or blocks on content may not be affordable for ordinary Singaporeans.”
    She, Kirsten Han, predicted that the way the law is drafted could muzzle many ordinary Singaporeans even if their posts didn’t technically contravene it.

    “(The bill) grants ministers so much discretion to demand corrections, takedowns and access to be blocked.” Han said. Under the law, people are able to appeal the order, but Han expressed concern about ordinary people’s ability to afford such legal cases.

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  • vincent tan:

    FaKe NeWs…
    keep shouting yaking all over cna chanel8
    chanelU suria radio
    938 950 933 972 920
    many chanels ….
    constantly nagging!!!!

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  • doomed if we dont:

    another huge reason to VTO.
    no chances left!

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Watch Mahathir & Pinky’s take on this Idiotic law which speak VOLUMES of how IDIOTIC the System is and MOST of ALL the IDIOTIC PM who looks like shit and a Joker from Batman…

    when compared to a 93-year-old Wiseman who took his father in his Pocket and rolled him from one to the other…in comparisan…one refuse to retire and could hardly STAND or PEE in Parliament on his own and the Other Hale & Hearty @93 making a ComeBack to Rock The Stage @ Putra Jaya

    Mahathir believes in God/Allah and TRUST his people…and the One who Con-You believe in himself and the Demons in him and trust the sheep he CONditioned to sheer stoopidity out of FEAR!!!

    a Picture speaks a THOUSAND WORDS

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  • oxygen:

    WHY IS PAPpypolitics SO FEARFUL OF SOCIAL MEDIA and hell-bent on repression to paranoia proportion?

    The answer is here.

    THE WISDOM OF CROWDS BY JAMES SUROWIECKI

    http://www.decisionsciencenews.com/2004/09/12/do-crowds-make-better-decisions-than-individuals-yes-says-author-james-surowiecki-in-the-wisdom-of-crowds/

    In The Wisdom of Crowds, Surowiecki explores the notion that large groups of people are smarter than an elite few, no matter how brilliant; crowds can be better at solving problems, fostering innovation, coming to wise decisions and even predicting the future.

    Even the late Mao Tze Tung is afraid of Ah Seng peasants

    Famous quote from late Chairman Mao Zedong: The masses’ eyes are discerning. We would like to share it with all those taking public hearings as cosmetic.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2009-12/25/content_9228239.htm

    He screwed up China despite political unification. Only Deng’s famous – never mind the cat is black or white as long as it catches the mice – set China on the transformation trajectory to wealth creation.

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  • Jman:

    There are so many wild accusations on social media leveled at all sorts of people, of which politicians are only one of many. There are all sorts of allegations of corruption based on fabricated conspiracies, etc. And it all gets more far fetched with the passage of time.

    If anyone is going to make any accusation, he/she must be able to prove it with hard facts and documents. If he/she cannot, then it is false. And if it is false, then he/she can and should be sued.

    The internet is a huge sea of garbage, a lot of which is not worth reading. And it is about time something like this is done.

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  • I would not disagree with GMS,it is possible.

    The payment agencies for most of the large international advertising networks now has an office in Singapore, so it is so very freaking easy to give these agencies a call to stop any and all payment.

    For example: Google’s Adsense now pays from its Singapore office for all its Asian publishers, was formerly paid from Ireland.

    PayPal also has an office in Singapore and now handles most if not all of Asian accounts. was formerly handled by USA.

    Not that it really matters to local alternative media because these websites have local editors the authorities can go after should they decide to BBQ a few arses.

    The new powers are best use to deal with websites like Alex and those Asian foreign media having no local representative and out of jurisdiction.

    For example Alex or South China Morning posts (SCMP) say something the millisters not happy, can speed-dial Google to not pay or order Google not support these websites.

    SCMP maybe not much affected if no Adsense cause they have big advertisers but if Alex, then he starve to death liao. lol

    Caveat: All comments made by me on TRE should only be taken as an opinion and not a matter of fact, unless otherwise explicitly stated.

    .

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  • @Jman

    Normally I would agree with you but with the new law being so vague and powderful, once passed (which it surely will):

    Fact is what the minister says it is, not the fact that it is a fact.

    Picture this:

    I say 1+1=2 but some clever minister not like can say no, its 11. According to this new law, then I have to take down my posting or/and face fine or jail time, no argument or questions can be asked.

    Then I have to write to the minister to “appeal” and provide testimonies from Harvard, Cambridge professors, etc to convince the minister that 1+1=2.

    The minister being a busy man will take about 6 months to a year to read the appeal and come up with a decision, maybe still insisting that 1+1=11.

    Then I have to borrow a lot of money to make an appeal to the High Court, which will take another few months.

    By then, if you think that with all the math professors from major universities attesting to 1+1=2, sure win the case liao, you may be disappointed.

    Remember “within 200m is not inside 200m”?

    You can gather all the Queens Counsel from around the world to argue and they will all end up looking like a fool. (tic)

    So if a minister says my father is a female, then my father will be a female. I think you get the picture. lol
    .

    Caveat: All comments made by me on TRE should only be taken as an opinion and not a matter of fact, unless otherwise stated explicitly.
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  • FOSTYH:

    Just when we start to have this bit of freedom of speech over the internet, a group of skunks connive to snuff it. The impact is going to be equal or worse than the suppression of free press, (hence freedom of expression) by the ancestor of skunks.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Jman

    YOU ARE MISTAKEN, maybe due to the lack of PROLONGED extensive foreign experiences ( I surmise only here). Statutory law of corruption can be written as wide of ambit as one which catches a whale together with shoals of fishes or as narrow as one that only trap only ONE Ikan Bilis, metaphorically speaking.

    HOW DO YOU PROVE CORRUPTION with “hard facts and document” of your insistence here in instances of CORRUPT CONDUCT of favoritism or insider information? It is naive thinking, sorry to say that here.

    Jman: There are so many wild accusations on social media leveled at all sorts of people, of which politicians are only one of many. There are all sorts of allegations of corruption based on fabricated conspiracies, etc. And it all gets more far fetched with the passage of time.

    If anyone is going to make any accusation, he/she must be able to prove it with hard facts and documents. If he/she cannot, then it is false. And if it is false, then he/she can and should be sued.

    The internet is a huge sea of garbage, a lot of which is not worth reading. And it is about time something like this is done.

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  • LIONS:

    So,NO MORE JOKES OR *HUMOUR* as this can also be classified as FAKE NEWS in its broad definition.
    Next APRIL 1 st,I guess a lot of people would be spreading FAKE NEWS n be CRIMINALISED?

    BTW,*MEE SIAM MAI HUM * N FTs will CREATE MORE JOBS FOR SINGAPOREANS should be CLASSIFIED AS FAKE NEWS too,shouldnt they?
    In this case,MOST OF THE PAP MINISTERS N MPs OUGHT TO BE PUNISHED FOR FAKE NEWS?

    MEE SIAM GOT HUM,MEH?

    GRC IS FAKE TOO.
    AND SO,ALL GRC MPs ARE MOSTLY FAKE MPs!

    Which mighty SG JUDGE dares to SENTENCE ANY *TOP PUBLIC SERVANT* FOR SAYING FAKE NEWS?

    BTW,IS *MILK IS MILK* not a piece of FAKE NEWS?

    THINK *milk* can oso be FAKE.
    If only A FEW GOOD MEN ARE TO DICTATE WHAT IS FAKE AND WHAT IS REAL,I THINK SG WILL TURN INTO A FAKE $INfool $hitty.

    Come on,FLOOD IS NOT PONDING LAH?!

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  • LIONS:

    Oh,before i forget.
    So,are we going to have REAL NUMBERS FOR OUR REAL statistics,starting from THE NUMBER OF SG CITIZENS IN OUR LABOUR FORCE N NOT FAKE NEWS like SG CITIZENS (AND) PRs taken as NATIVES under a FAKE STATISTICS???

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  • No Dafts or Dogs Allowed:

    How to become a ‘smart city’ when ‘smartness” can get one into trouble if a minister decides you are fake? Examples: topics on CPF, asset enhancement, ministerial high salary, meritocracy and cronyism.

    With the absolute authority on silencing ‘uncomfortable’ criticisms as falsehoods, Govt. can even further enhance this “own self-check own-self” mentality. Singaporeans who’re already daft, will become ‘dead’ frogs in no time because no one is informing them the pot is already coming to a sizzling boil.

    Singaporeans will be worse off in coming years. No more a thriving ‘smart city’ because all the smart people will have already left for better intellectual freedom and creativity.

    Disclaimer: I cannot be held responsible for the opinions above, as apparently one of my dogs has learned how to type.

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  • LIONS:

    THE REAL NEWS FOR THIS LABOUR STAT IS OF VITAL IMPORTANCE BECOS THE NUMBER OF NON-CITIZENS IN OUR WORKFORCE IS OVERWHELMING.
    So too the TOTAL POPULATION SHOULD REFLECT REAL STAT FOR Singapireans(PINK ICs) vs NON-PINK ICs?

    What about FAKE CREDENTIALS LIKE FOREIGNERS’ DEGREES N WORK EXPERIENCES?
    WILL ICA PLAY ITS PART N MOM BEFORE MORE FAKE FTs are allowed into our ONCE HIGH PRODUCTIVITY NATION?

    WHAT IS FAKE AND WHAT IS REAL MUST GO BEYOND WHAT IS SUKA-SUKA by the GAHmen,correct or not,Mr Shanmugam,sir?

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  • LIONS:

    Giving FALSE STATS OR WITHHOLDING REAL STATS ARE CREATING AMBIGUITY.
    And,AMBUGUITY WILL LEAD TO FAKE NEWS one way or another,intentionally or unwittingly?

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  • MarBowling:

    Voters in the coming GE, remember this fella with the arrogant look and sneaky eyes in the above picture.

    He is one of the Main dagger stabbers cum executioner of the proposed Law to stifle public views and speeches! This MF is waiting like a Hawk and is earmarked to be the next Minister of Law when the current Minister SnakeMugam retires to enjoy his $millions retirement funds!

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  • WakeupSG:

    The only way to protect our rights to freedom of expression is to remove the “force-hood (Pappy)” that uses falsehood as a pretext to enact law enforcement against fake news which seems justifiable!

    Come GE2019, make a choice whether to protect Pappy to govern or protect your rights to write!

    DONT BE SMOKED BY PAPPY! BE SMART TO VTO!

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  • NotMyProblem:

    TRE Techie:

    Picture this:
    …..

    I say 1+1=2 but some clever minister not like can say no, its 11. According to this new law, then I have to take down my posting or/and face fine or jail time, no argument or questions can be asked.

    …..

    @TRE Techie;

    You are assuming the the clever minister would say it’s 11!

    The clever minister would not be telling you what should be right, because if he said it was 11, the next time he cannot say something else! He just say it was wrong.

    So your 1+1=2 could be anything according to the clever minister. It could be 11, 0, or anything, depending on the alignment of the planets.

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  • mike:

    TRE Techie:

    So if a minister says my father is a female, then my father will be a female. I think you get the picture. lol

    They already said an Indian = Malay and can issue cert. some more by a legitimate authority plus the review/approval authority see no problem to it.

    What else not possible? Even say you are born out of a rock you must also take it a fact with gratitude.

    You understand?!

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  • I Question GDP:

    How will their career end finally for both this lawyer and k.shan? I mean when will they retire having served the people so well making laws that we enjoy?

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  • What Goes Around:

    What goes around comes around.
    Many know and agree.
    But they do not really understand it. I shall educate.

    1. Why is this saying undebunkable? Science, it’s the study of Natural world.
    Newton’s Law established hundreds of years ago has NEVER been debunked by any scientist no matter how hard they tried for centuries . For Every Action Party there is an Equal and Alternative Party.

    2. SELF-PRESERVATION & being bloody SELFISH :
    Singaporeans are experts in it. They do it all the time because they do not believe this CAN BACKFIRE. It’s like only when news say something you eat will cause cancer then only they will believe. The next day the news say that will not cause cancer and they believe also. The next next day, the news again say it will cause cancer and they believe it. There is no WISDOM. It’s all based on believing .

    Singaporeans are TIMID out self-preservation. They surrendered Social Justice and Compassion for other human beings to keep themselves from persecution. Over 5 decades, they evolved into a special species. They also LOST PEOPLE POWER. THEY ARE WEAK POLITICALLY. They have not realised what has their self preservation led to. The Weak People Power means there is no real democracy. They say, politics for what? Got food to eat , got money to make can already. They still do not see what has backfired. Mini Bonders. Hyfuxkers. They may lose 90% of their invested money but they DARE NOT come to Hong Lim. Of course they want their money back. But the CULTURE is what they have been Nurtured. A Powerless People. Loose sands. No democracy.

    3. The saying goes.
    When they came for the mini bonders, I did not speak out as I was not one of them. Not affected.
    When they came for the hyfuxkers I too did not speak out as it was not my business for me to be bothered with.

    When they come for the retirees….. Sama Sama.

    Now they cum for me and we have weak people power unable to do anything.

    KARMA, Newton’s Cause and EFFECT, What goes around cums around. Absolute Truth of the universe. Undebunkable. Now you can see why Selfishness backfires for sure, eventually.

    4. SOCIAL JUSTICE and HUMAN EMPATHY :
    One guy said, oh the fake news won’t affect 99%. So we should not worry and let it pass as law?
    Think again!
    It can AFFECT the 99%.
    What does not affect you CAN.
    The above points proved it.
    Not in my backyard mentality is a Selfish thinking in a way. It seems right but over time it backfires. When an animal is tortured, you may say oh, who cares, it’s not me. But this is only because you are COLD BLOODED. If everyone don’t care, eventually the whole Singapore full of animal tortures because it’s condoned.
    This leads to worse and worse acts of torture and brutality.
    One day, it can backfired on you. Someone…

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  • Simple Lah !:

    Just make sure there are none “PAP” Minister or that “PAP” Ministers must require the support of none “PAP” MPs to do things.

    Alamak ! so easy. Just vote correctly one time, problem solved !

    there is an “exemption” clause which gives PAP great power to exempt SPH, Mediacorp and media under its control from this law.

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  • Jman:

    If the laws in any country are applied properly, one always has to be careful when leveling accusations that another individual is corrupt, a liar, and any other negative adjectives. Anything negative, and if the subject can prove damage to reputation or financial loss, then the person making those negative statements might be in for damages for libel/slander.

    This is true irrespective of this proposed new law.

    People are so used to casually saying another person is corrupt, of engaging in fraudulent behaviour, etc. And they way it is put forward by many people, it is clear there is a lack of appreciation for what they are getting themselves into. And in recent years, there is an increasing incidence (within social circles of private individuals) for people to sue one another, if there are independent witnesses to these negative statements.

    It has taken too long for people to learn that we need to make responsible statements. And not shoot off like a motor mouth on issues we feel strongly about, or just because it seems to be in vogue because everyone else is bashing a person/organisation.

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  • Guillotine for PAP:

    When LHY/LWL spoke up defending their papa’s will, Buddhist Singaporeans perceived that not only the father but both the parents have as believed in the faith gotten into the two children n spoke thru them not only to the ‘dishonorable son’ (in evidence in the phrase chosen), to the lots in the harem they left behind (evidence in the word used compliance, one felt by his daft but has kept locked in him n cautiously not to give sign for the word to be spoken out aloud) but also to the ingrate replacement (for the one they have carelessly benigned n wasted) as they have left to be the walking sticking of the DS but has unfortunately get intolerably defying the family to bolster the harem to transform into fart worm not only to fade the nepotic regime into a gorilla dynasty but also to strangle the nepotic family which as the Buddhist Singaporeans believed to be the last straw for the soul infusion phenomena. Further evidence said including the hate n frustration harbored for being an imbecile unable to protect his love n the way to redress is to let Gorilla to carry out her plot to transfor the harem to become zgorilla’s colony of fart worms working with the new G-breed to eradicate le nepotic remaining branches n establish the Gorilla Dynasty.

    With this perception among the faith followers n spreading fast to the other faiths having such God miraculous of unrest n return of the dead, any acts that harms the old master’s roots, will have them reverse. The Fake Laws are believed to be the final nails n guillotines for the fast fading nepotic regime but effectively n aborting guillotine for the Dynasty.

    CPF n HDB kaputted now even kpkb becomes fake n cabinised rather than thru Court even though no Bao Kong but who knows?

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  • Like verdict on GCT in or out:

    Reflecting back to the Court ruling on GCT in or out of the out of bound circle around the polling station. All geometric students were wondering whether their teachers know their geometry. The Teachers wondered whether the geometry has been wrong all these years. But after LHY/LWL compliancy n dynasty talks, many now including the srudents understand n the geometry books go back to the shelf. This lesson prompted mant to predict many dictionaries will have to be rewritten for sale in SIN city else the publishers will be called by the Cabin to revise, face fines for bonus for the best decision on fake n real n face jail for period proportional to the day of disobedience but in years meaning i day delay credit with 1 y free meals.
    The rotten banana has already prempt what her big lp n now big fart hole would be doing n has thus defining the conflict of interest depending on career success. But all this forewarning signs r superfluous because all of the same r now ad absurdum jialiaobis so COI no long an issuePS
    An interesting question is whether Tan CB’s PSP real or fake including the red palm with their 5 leaves. Jialiaobis’ replacement Cabin may see fake with mata mata big big on $$ bonus n free meals cabin waiting to welcome. So no happy happy now for the Cabin is now hunger,greed for $$ bonus so have to be aggressive else Cabin may become Woodland with Mdm English Veg’s men.
    Gorilla kaputted by Angmoh Veg. So Veg migrates to SIN n Gotilla exterminated. Karma is not no karma, ntime not right for karma,

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  • @NotMyProblem

    Ah yes, you are so right.

    My bad. lol

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  • constitution Violation:

    Democratic Constitution hinges very significantly on Freedom, Justice, Equality, Peace n Progress. To ensure that no government given the mandate to govern by popular vote of the citizenry does not compromise these tenet of democracy, the Constitution stipulates the importance of Public institutions to protect the citizens n the democratic status of the nation with the guarantee of their independence and separation from the Power of the prevailing Perception Government.

    The recent legislation on fake news n empowering the ministers to prejudge is a clear, distinct n blatant violation of the Constitution n the Office Holders of these relevant Public Constitution in this case the Judiciary particular the Chief Justice n the Entire Bench have the Constitutional responsibility to defend their role to protect the Freedom, Justice Equality n Rights of the Citizenry at this crucial time unless the Government bulldozes for a change of democracy to dictatorship, nepotism or dynasty which would thus remove the Constitution n all its contents includling the independent regulatory public institution.
    The entire judicial institution is there to ensure Justice for the Citizens against interference from the Power.

    It is ironical that the independence n the regulatory role the final gate of protection against the Power compromising democracy n its tenets upon which the nation is built n internationally recognized as such. Compromising it poses international insults n criminal acts to the political significance of Democracy n practitioners of democracy.

    Singaporeans plead the Bench led by the Honourable Chief Justice to honour their Independent regulatory function n their Oath of Office. This responsibility extends to the President n hope that prevailing office bearer would not demean the Honour n the Righteousness of the Office.

    Dilution of the Judiciary Independence n Power is not tolerable as the democratic significance of one man one vote for one house representation which has long been adulterated by the all PAP vote for GRC which essentially means one man N votes for N representation in the House for a fraction of the citizenry meaning the constituion violation of Equality for all citizens. In this respect GRC is unconstitutional!
    The Government is given the mandate to govern by popular vote. How popularism is rule out from the platform of a Government empowered with popular vote. This is irrational n illogical. Rationality n logic differentiates human from beasts n other living species.

    What really r Singaporeans thinking?

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