It saddens me that Singapore’s laws and its police have become a joke

Roy Ngerng

In defending the man who filmed a female student while she was showering, the Singapore police said: “A prosecution, with a possible jail sentence, will likely ruin his entire future.”

When the Prime Minister sued me, did the government think about how it would “ruin my entire future”?

When the hospital I worked at fired me due to political pressure, did they think about how it would “ruin my entire future”?

When the prime minister sued Leong Sze Hian, did the government think about how it would “ruin his entire future”?

When Jolovan Wham was charged and now faces jail, did they think about how it would “ruin his entire future”?

When Seelan Palay was charged and jailed, did they think about how it would “ruin his entire future”?

When Soh Lung Teo was jailed on fabricated lies, did they think about how it would “ruin his entire future” as a lawyer?

When Vincent Cheng was jailed on fabricated lies, did they think about how it would “ruin his entire future” as a church worker?

When Dr Chee Soon Juan was sued, charged and jailed, did they think about how it would “ruin his entire future” as a university professor?

I can go on and on.

There have been too many, too many people who have had their futures ruined because the police chose to ruin their futures, because the PAP government chose to ruin them.

Good people. All ruined. Because the police. Because the People’s Action Party.

It disgusts me to the core for the Singapore police to have the audacity to make claims it has very weak moral authority to make.

I cannot.

If you want to apply the law, apply it fairly. If you cannot apply the law fairly, then don’t make the claim you can. When you cannot.

Singaporeans have eyes to see.

I think, it saddens me that Singapore’s laws and its police have become a joke. The PAP has influence over how the law should be used, how it should be used to persecute, and when they think people should be let off when they should not be.

In the fake news law the PAP has proposed, they have decided to make “fake news” a crime, but yet have given themselves the power to decide who should not be punished for it.

How, how, how can you accept a government which believes it can play god with your lives, I cannot.

I don’t know where to start. It makes me angry.

I have always believed in forgiveness, in believing that people have a chance. And people should have chances.

But we have a system of justice, and people who have done what is socially deemed as wrong should undergo a system that has been built, and even as the intention should be to rehabilitate, they should go through the process of understanding what they did, how their actions were unjust, how they should understand how it feels from the victim’s perspective, and how this understanding will prevent them from causing harm or hurt again.

We have a system, and the system has to be properly respected for it to work.

But if we use the system to persecute people who should not be persecuted, while letting those who should be prosecuted go, then can we still have faith in a system that we know cannot protect us?

This is not to defend the prison system which can be overbearing in its punishment of people, while not giving people the opportunity for proper rehabilitation. But the point is, there is a system. If it is not good enough, we change it for the better.

But fundamentally, if truth, justice, fairness and honesty can be bent and changed as and when, then is there still truth? Can there still be justice?

And what of the people who have been put in the prison system unfairly, or if they are poor, or people who fall into crime because the system failed them?

What is our system today which does not protect the weak and vulnerable, which let those in power or in the wrong get away, or elites who have the power over those who have not, what is this system we thought we could trust, when it starts failing in front of our very eyes?

I am angry. I want change. Because it is unfair. And it should not be this way. It does not have to be this way.

 

 

Roy Ngerng

 

 

 

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36 Responses to “It saddens me that Singapore’s laws and its police have become a joke”

  • 大成巷阿明:

    如果没有新加坡警察部队的贡献,这个社会能有这么安宁吗?

    鄞义林先生为了这个个案就发这么大的脾气,给人的感觉就是为了一棵树而错失了整座森林!

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Poor Roy, don’t you KNOW that all of you are CONsidered a threat to the EVIL LEEdynasty the SHIM (neither she or him) a nobody who became a somebody after marrying a Lie is preparing the 3rd Generation of Lies…

    Cool it Bro and wait for the New Dawn or Fajar rising…the STUDENTS most I hope to have their eyes & ears wide open TODAY

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  • Harder Truths:

    Well said Roy. Well said.

    In first world countries where law is respected the legal and judicial arms of the state are separate from the legislative bodies to avoid misuse of the system.

    In third world banana republics there is no real rule of law. Just rule of the strong over the weak.

    No points for getting the answer right for $G.

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  • YouWillSurelyDie:

    There is only one way, one truth and one life but nobody is interested(he vast majority) but rather play “church”( structural contraption) and god.

    Well, keep complaining but I can tell you, to no avail( no peace in the world which include Sin) till you face your HUMILIATION and the emptiness of your worthless wisdom and ways.

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  • Fiat & the Fiasco:

    When a very powerful individual “is the only one who can speak his mind and get away with it” then we have embarked on the downward spiral of social decadence despite all the materialistic appearances and their gaudy glitter.

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  • Anyone knows?:

    Can someone with good UK knowledge please answer this?

    Is/was any of the UK minister an ex-police chief? (not just ex-police)

    From what I know, there isn’t.

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  • WakeupSG:

    Why is there such a public outcry re the unjust meting out of sentencing of Nick Lim for such a sexual offence?

    IT IS BECAUSE THE SENTENCE DOESN’T SUIT THE NATURE OF OFFENCE!

    IN THIS CASE THE PUBLIC WAS COMPELLED TO JUDGE IT AS THE AUTHORITIES FAIL TO EXERCISE RIGHT JUDGEMENT!

    THIS THING HAPPENS SO THAT WE CAN WAKE UP TO THE FACT THAT THE LAW CAN BE ABUSED & MISUSE TO PERSECUTE ANTAGONISTS UNJUSTLY!

    IT DOESN’T MATTER WHO COMMITS SUCH OFFENCE THEY SHOULD BE JUSTLY PUNISHED! (TEEN OFFENDERS, ETC WILL BE DEALT WITH DIFFERENTLY).

    IN THE LIGHT OF THIS CASE, HOW THEN CAN WE TRUST THE PAPPY GOVERNMENT TO ADMINISTER THE FAKE NEWS LAW JUSTLY!

    WE MUST SHOUT IT OUT TO THEM LOUD & CLEAR AT THE COMING GE2019! VTO!

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  • Asd:

    Can’t believe it…

    LoL..

    Hurray… never a dull moment….

    More to come …

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  • Zhenzidan:

    大成巷阿明:
    如果没有新加坡警察部队的贡献,这个社会能有这么安宁吗?

    鄞义林先生为了这个个案就发这么大的脾气,给人的感觉就是为了一棵树而错失了整座森林!

    你是英文理解力有问题是吗?

    鄞义林已经说得清清楚楚,警方对该名犯罪者的“宽容”(说不想毁了他的前途)是一种巨大讽刺,他还举出许多例子,曾有无数爱国市民如何被政府用卑鄙手段把他们赶尽杀绝,却没有顾虑到这些人的前途,现在竟然放过一个犯了非礼的罪犯?新加坡这么“安宁”还会发生这种事?想必你是外来移民,受到政府一点甜头就舔政府的肛门,完全不懂得体会一个曾经为正义而站出来说话结果被套上各种罪行的受害者的处境。

    这位“大成巷阿明”
    肯定是外来移民
    不懂这里的国情
    还说这里很安宁
    马屁拍得还真行
    一开始就没有停
    你不了解鄞义林
    闭上臭嘴别乱评
    更不要自作聪明
    这种低等的移民
    我们这里不欢迎!

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  • 大成巷阿明:

    Zhenzidan: 你是英文理解力有问题是吗?

    鄞义林已经说得清清楚楚,警方对该名犯罪者的“宽容”(说不想毁了他的前途)是一种巨大讽刺,他还举出许多例子,曾有无数爱国市民如何被政府用卑鄙手段把他们赶尽杀绝,却没有顾虑到这些人的前途,现在竟然放过一个犯了非礼的罪犯?新加坡这么“安宁”还会发生这种事?想必你是外来移民,受到政府一点甜头就舔政府的肛门,完全不懂得体会一个曾经为正义而站出来说话结果被套上各种罪行的受害者的处境。

    这位“大成巷阿明”
    肯定是外来移民
    不懂这里的国情
    还说这里很安宁
    马屁拍得还真行
    一开始就没有停
    你不了解鄞义林
    闭上臭嘴别乱评
    更不要自作聪明
    这种低等的移民
    我们这里不欢迎!

    哇!这位朋友来了!

    首先,我一出世就是新加坡公民。从出世到现在,每一天都住在新加坡。

    我可能不同意现执政党的每一个政策,但我更不同意一些在野党和他们支持者不中肯和偏激的言论。

    看了鄞先生的这言论,你觉得如何?会不会觉得新加坡的警察部队是极权政府的恐怖组织?或者是封建极权政府的特务机构?

    国大的偷窥摄狼案是刑事案。李总理告鄞义林是民事案。看到一宗处罚让有些人感到不舒服的刑事案,就牵扯出自己的民事案,然后举起大棒子,把新加坡警察部队貶得一文不值,是算是公正不阿吗?

    鄞义林说这样就把他的一生给毁了!如果是的话,那就好脆弱,真的是不坎一击,像银样蜡枪头,一触即溃!

    看看尼尔逊曼德拉,被残忍的白人政权在牢獄里折磨了几十年还不放弃,最后还成了折磨他的人的总統。成为那些白人的总統之后,他不言报复但强调宽容和原谅。尼尔逊曼得拉才真正的是个人物。

    反观我们伟大的社运人士鄞义林,他现在还享有新加坡公民的所有权力和义务,还能做好多好多平常新加坡公民能做的事,但他却说,他的一生已被毁了。相较之下,鄞义林先生是多么的不济!

    我的这位朋友大概性子急了一点,没看清楚别人要表达的是什么,就急吼吼的要把人打入地獄,感觉上他比鄞义林更不济!

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  • Police, Protect Us.:

    Roy Ngerng wrote: “What is our system today which does not protect the weak and vulnerable, which let those in power or in the wrong get away, or elites who have the power over those who have not, what is this system we thought we could trust, when it starts failing in front of our very eyes?”

    Police should protect us from them and not the opposite.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    大成巷阿明: 哇!这位朋友来了!

    首先,我一出世就是新加坡公民。从出世到现在,每一天都住在新加坡。

    我可能不同意现执政党的每一个政策,但我更不同意一些在野党和他们支持者不中肯和偏激的言论。

    看了鄞先生的这言论,你觉得如何?会不会觉得新加坡的警察部队是极权政府的恐怖组织?或者是封建极权政府的特务机构?

    国大的偷窥摄狼案是刑事案。李总理告鄞义林是民事案。看到一宗处罚让有些人感到不舒服的刑事案,就牵扯出自己的民事案,然后举起大棒子,把新加坡警察部队貶得一文不值,是算是公正不阿吗?

    鄞义林说这样就把他的一生给毁了!如果是的话,那就好脆弱,真的是不坎一击,像银样蜡枪头,一触即溃!

    看看尼尔逊曼德拉,被残忍的白人政权在牢獄里折磨了几十年还不放弃,最后还成了折磨他的人的总統。成为那些白人的总統之后,他不言报复但强调宽容和原谅。尼尔逊曼得拉才真正的是个人物。

    反观我们伟大的社运人士鄞义林,他现在还享有新加坡公民的所有权力和义务,还能做好多好多平常新加坡公民能做的事,但他却说,他的一生已被毁了。相较之下,鄞义林先生是多么的不济!

    我的这位朋友大概性子急了一点,没看清楚别人要表达的是什么,就急吼吼的要把人打入地獄,感觉上他比鄞义林更不济!

    If you are really a born and bred Singaporean as you claim, I challenge you to translate all that you’ve written into English, and I’ll debate in English with you for the benefit of our non-chinese readers.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @大成巷阿明:

    你说:
    “国大的偷窥摄狼案是刑事案。李总理告鄞义林是民事案。”

    难道这两个案件不可以相提并论吗?那么你拿曼德拉来和鄞先生相比,一个是非洲全国立法机关的政治家,另一个只是一个普通市民,他们俩能相提并论吗?

    一个是想方设法推翻白人政权结果被抓坐牢,另一个只是质疑国家公积金制度的漏洞却被总理套上诽谤罪名然后被告上法庭,这两者根本就天渊之别,你却把他们扯在一起,你脑子有毛病啊?

    你说:
    “看到一宗处罚让有些人感到不舒服的刑事案,就牵扯出自己的民事案,然后举起大棒子,把新加坡警察部队貶得一文不值,是算是公正不阿吗?”

    他说警察部队处理别的案件和自己案件的矛盾言论,说什么“不想毁掉一个人的前途”处理他的案情却没顾虑到他的前途,他是暴露了其中的矛盾,而不是“把警察部队说到一文不值”!所以说你的理解力有毛病!

    再说新加坡警察部队真是一文不值!你忘了吗?小印度骚动,警察到现场,眼看两辆警车被纵火,他们却躲在警车后面不敢行动,警察总署感到现场却穿着便衣,躲在警察背后眼巴巴看着警车被烧,等到戈尔卡部队赶到现场才敢出来,这一幕已经成为新加坡历史上一宗大笑话!所以鄞先生就算在诋毁警察部队也没说错!这种警察部队若碰到真正恐怖分子放炸弹,那还得了?这种警察部队只有你这种马屁精才会欣赏!

    你说:
    “反观我们伟大的社运人士鄞义林,他现在还享有新加坡公民的所有权力和义务,还能做好多好多平常新加坡公民能做的事”?

    你在讲什么屁话?你不知道鄞先生在新加坡已经没人敢聘用他,只能跑到台湾发展,这不是毁了他前途是什么?

    人家言论已说明
    反观是你看不明
    还在自以为聪明
    强词夺理乱批评
    自称新加坡公民
    你若真的是公民
    就用英文来写明

    你这行动党走狗
    只会跟着屁股走
    说我在这乱乱吼
    没本事就别献丑
    读完诗词别颤抖
    不管你欣赏与否
    此诗出自我甄某
    不管动笔或动口
    你绝非是我对手!

    I have rebutted you in Chinese. Now, if you are really a born and bred Singaporean as you claim, I challenge you to translate all that you’ve written into English, and I’ll debate in English with you for the benefit of our non-Chinese readers.

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  • Uncle 大成巷阿明:

    sure or not?? 一出世都住新加坡? born in Mandai also ah? Then why cannot even write simple English but can quawk bluebird-talk??

    大成巷阿明: 哇!这位朋友来了!

    首先,我一出世就是新加坡公民。从出世到现在,每一天都住在新加坡。

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  • 大成巷阿明:

    Zhenzidan: If you are really a born and bred Singaporean as you claim, I challenge you to translate all that you’ve written into English, and I’ll debate in English with you for the benefit of our non-chinese readers.

    Zhenzidan:
    @大成巷阿明:

    你说:
    “国大的偷窥摄狼案是刑事案。李总理告鄞义林是民事案。”

    难道这两个案件不可以相提并论吗?那么你拿曼德拉来和鄞先生相比,一个是非洲全国立法机关的政治家,另一个只是一个普通市民,他们俩能相提并论吗?

    一个是想方设法推翻白人政权结果被抓坐牢,另一个只是质疑国家公积金制度的漏洞却被总理套上诽谤罪名然后被告上法庭,这两者根本就天渊之别,你却把他们扯在一起,你脑子有毛病啊?

    你说:
    “看到一宗处罚让有些人感到不舒服的刑事案,就牵扯出自己的民事案,然后举起大棒子,把新加坡警察部队貶得一文不值,是算是公正不阿吗?”

    他说警察部队处理别的案件和自己案件的矛盾言论,说什么“不想毁掉一个人的前途”处理他的案情却没顾虑到他的前途,他是暴露了其中的矛盾,而不是“把警察部队说到一文不值”!所以说你的理解力有毛病!

    再说新加坡警察部队真是一文不值!你忘了吗?小印度骚动,警察到现场,眼看两辆警车被纵火,他们却躲在警车后面不敢行动,警察总署感到现场却穿着便衣,躲在警察背后眼巴巴看着警车被烧,等到戈尔卡部队赶到现场才敢出来,这一幕已经成为新加坡历史上一宗大笑话!所以鄞先生就算在诋毁警察部队也没说错!这种警察部队若碰到真正恐怖分子放炸弹,那还得了?这种警察部队只有你这种马屁精才会欣赏!

    你说:
    “反观我们伟大的社运人士鄞义林,他现在还享有新加坡公民的所有权力和义务,还能做好多好多平常新加坡公民能做的事”?

    你在讲什么屁话?你不知道鄞先生在新加坡已经没人敢聘用他,只能跑到台湾发展,这不是毁了他前途是什么?

    人家言论已说明
    反观是你看不明
    还在自以为聪明
    强词夺理乱批评
    自称新加坡公民
    你若真的是公民
    就用英文来写明

    你这行动党走狗
    只会跟着屁股走
    说我在这乱乱吼
    没本事就别献丑
    读完诗词别颤抖
    不管你欣赏与否
    此诗出自我甄某
    不管动笔或动口
    你绝非是我对手!

    I have rebutted you in Chinese. Now, if you are really a born and bred Singaporean as you claim, I challenge you to translate all that you’ve written into English, and I’ll debate in English with you for the benefit of our non-Chinese readers.

    哇,我们的这个好朋友!

    是新加坡人就必须用英语来交流,辨论。这是什么罗辑?

    现在倒是我们有理由来怀疑我们的朋友是不是道地的新加坡人了。因为他好像是不知道新加坡宪法,不知道新加坡宪法给其公民权力的保障。

    更糟的是,他对在地情况也不清楚,不知道新加坡还有一大群土生土长的新加坡人只懂华语!如果他知道,就要问为什么他对这群人的需求无动于衷?

    新加坡在现执政党的管理下,一个只懂华语的人,不论去到哪一个政府机构,他绝对能得到他所需要的服务。现在的新加坡不完美,但只懂华语的那一大群人还能有声音,声音还能被听到。

    不过,如果这位朋友不小心露出来的真面孔是代表现在野阵营的话,大志大枝了!如果有一天由他们来管理新加坡,那一大群只懂华语的,土生土长的新加坡人去到政府机构要一些服务,得到的可能是:说英语,然没有任何服务!

    这不是不可能的!因为这位朋友这样子的态度不是孤立的。我大成巷阿明在这个网站别的议题上也碰到类似的事情,批评我不会英语,嘲笑我英语差,只因为我只用华语就不再和我交流。。。。

    天佑新加坡,让现执政党继续执政下去。

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  • Silly Private Force:

    A reminder that Nazi Gestapos were a tool of terror and oppression.

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  • Uncle 大成巷阿明:

    新加坡 also got ethnic Malay, ethnic India and Eurasian, so 罗辑 say must use 英语来交流,辨论.

    新加坡宪法给其公民权力的保障 is 保障 every single Singaporean, including ethnic Malay, ethnics India and Eurasian.

    Is not because 只用华语就不和交流, but is because we also care about our Malay同胞, India同胞 and Eurasian同胞.

    政府机构服务 of course will 服务 you even if your 英语差

    But if you want to say things or do things that affect all 新加坡人, which includes Malay同胞, India同胞 and Eurasian同胞, then you 必须用英语来交流.

    Otherwise, please don’t bother.

    大成巷阿明:
    哇,我们的这个好朋友!

    是新加坡人就必须用英语来交流,辨论。这是什么罗辑?

    现在倒是我们有理由来怀疑我们的朋友是不是道地的新加坡人了。因为他好像是不知道新加坡宪法,不知道新加坡宪法给其公民权力的保障。

    更糟的是,他对在地情况也不清楚,不知道新加坡还有一大群土生土长的新加坡人只懂华语!如果他知道,就要问为什么他对这群人的需求无动于衷?

    新加坡在现执政党的管理下,一个只懂华语的人,不论去到哪一个政府机构,他绝对能得到他所需要的服务。现在的新加坡不完美,但只懂华语的那一大群人还能有声音,声音还能被听到。

    不过,如果这位朋友不小心露出来的真面孔是代表现在野阵营的话,大志大枝了!如果有一天由他们来管理新加坡,那一大群只懂华语的,土生土长的新加坡人去到政府机构要一些服务,得到的可能是:说英语,然没有任何服务!

    这不是不可能的!因为这位朋友这样子的态度不是孤立的。我大成巷阿明在这个网站别的议题上也碰到类似的事情,批评我不会英语,嘲笑我英语差,只因为我只用华语就不再和我交流。。。。

    天佑新加坡,让现执政党继续执政下去。

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  • Zhenzidan:

    For the benefit of our non-Chinese readers, I shall translate what this fake Singaporean wrote when I challenged him to write in English to prove that he is a true-born Singaporen

    大成巷阿明:
    哇,我们的这个好朋友!

    是新加坡人就必须用英语来交流,辨论。这是什么罗辑?
    Singaporeans must definitely use English to communicate and debate? What logic is that?

    现在倒是我们有理由来怀疑我们的朋友是不是道地的新加坡人了。因为他好像是不知道新加坡宪法,不知道新加坡宪法给其公民权力的保障。
    Instead I suspect if he (Zhenzidan) is a Singaporean because he didn’t know that our constitution provide the citizens with rights and safeguards.

    更糟的是,他对在地情况也不清楚,不知道新加坡还有一大群土生土长的新加坡人只懂华语!如果他知道,就要问为什么他对这群人的需求无动于衷?
    What’s worse he doesn’t even know that a big group of true-blue Singaporeans only know Chinese! How come he is so nonchalant towards this group of people?

    新加坡在现执政党的管理下,一个只懂华语的人,不论去到哪一个政府机构,他绝对能得到他所需要的服务。现在的新加坡不完美,但只懂华语的那一大群人还能有声音,声音还能被听到。
    Under the present govt,someone who only knows Chinese will still be served no matter which govt organisation he goes to. Singapore may not be perfect but this big group of Chinese-only speaking people still have a voice which can be heard.

    不过,如果这位朋友不小心露出来的真面孔是代表现在野阵营的话,大志大枝了!如果有一天由他们来管理新加坡,那一大群只懂华语的,土生土长的新加坡人去到政府机构要一些服务,得到的可能是:说英语,然没有任何服务!
    If this friend (Zhenzidan) accidentally exposed himself to be from oppositions,that’s disastrous! If they become the govt, these true-blue Singaporeans who only speak Chinese will be told “Speak English, otherwise no service!

    这不是不可能的!因为这位朋友这样子的态度不是孤立的。我大成巷阿明在这个网站别的议题上也碰到类似的事情,批评我不会英语,嘲笑我英语差,只因为我只用华语就不再和我交流。。。。
    This is not impossible. Because his (Zhenzidan) is not an isolated case. In this website, I have encountered readers who criticised that I don’t know English and sneered at my poor English proficiency.Because I only use Chinese so that stop communicating with me.

    天佑新加坡,让现执政党继续执政下去。
    Heaven bless Singapore to let the present govt continue to govern Singapore!
    ______________________________________________________________________

    TRE readers, do you all still believe he is a born and bred Singaporean? From his writing style, I can tell he is not. Those who can only write Chinese are from either previous generations and above and most of them can’t type in Chinese because they never learned Hanyu Pinyin.

    This is definitely a PRC puppy!

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  • 大成巷阿明:

    Uncle 大成巷阿明:
    新加坡 also got ethnic Malay, ethnic India and Eurasian, so 罗辑 say must use 英语来交流,辨论.

    新加坡宪法给其公民权力的保障 is 保障 every single Singaporean, including ethnic Malay, ethnics India and Eurasian.

    Is not because 只用华语就不和交流, but is because we also care about our Malay同胞, India同胞 and Eurasian同胞.

    政府机构服务 of course will 服务 you even if your 英语差

    But if you want to say things or do things that affect all 新加坡人, which includes Malay同胞, India同胞 and Eurasian同胞, then you 必须用英语来交流.

    Otherwise, please don’t bother.

    尊重这位朋友的意见。

    但他的罗辑有很大的问题!

    他说如果交流或讨论牵涉到全新加坡民众,就必须以英语进行。

    肯定的,那些不懂英语(他们可能是华人,马来人,印度人或者是欧亚裔)的人的声音,肯定有许多是牵涉到全体新加坡人的。但他们不懂英语,怎么办?

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  • 大成巷阿明:

    Zhenzidan:
    For the benefit of our non-Chinese readers, I shall translate what this fake Singaporean wrote when I challenged him to write in English to prove that he is a true-born Singaporen

    大成巷阿明:
    哇,我们的这个好朋友!

    是新加坡人就必须用英语来交流,辨论。这是什么罗辑?
    Singaporeans must definitely use English to communicate and debate? What logic is that?

    现在倒是我们有理由来怀疑我们的朋友是不是道地的新加坡人了。因为他好像是不知道新加坡宪法,不知道新加坡宪法给其公民权力的保障。
    Instead I suspect if he (Zhenzidan) is a Singaporean because he didn’t know that our constitution provide the citizens with rights and safeguards.

    更糟的是,他对在地情况也不清楚,不知道新加坡还有一大群土生土长的新加坡人只懂华语!如果他知道,就要问为什么他对这群人的需求无动于衷?
    What’s worse he doesn’t even know that a big group of true-blue Singaporeans only know Chinese! How come he is so nonchalant towards this group of people?

    新加坡在现执政党的管理下,一个只懂华语的人,不论去到哪一个政府机构,他绝对能得到他所需要的服务。现在的新加坡不完美,但只懂华语的那一大群人还能有声音,声音还能被听到。
    Under the present govt,someone who only knows Chinese will still be served no matter which govt organisation he goes to. Singapore may not be perfect but this big group of Chinese-only speaking people still have a voice which can be heard.

    不过,如果这位朋友不小心露出来的真面孔是代表现在野阵营的话,大志大枝了!如果有一天由他们来管理新加坡,那一大群只懂华语的,土生土长的新加坡人去到政府机构要一些服务,得到的可能是:说英语,然没有任何服务!
    If this friend (Zhenzidan) accidentally exposed himself to be from oppositions,that’s disastrous! If they become the govt, these true-blue Singaporeans who only speak Chinese will be told “Speak English, otherwise no service!

    这不是不可能的!因为这位朋友这样子的态度不是孤立的。我大成巷阿明在这个网站别的议题上也碰到类似的事情,批评我不会英语,嘲笑我英语差,只因为我只用华语就不再和我交流。。。。
    This is not impossible. Because his (Zhenzidan) is not an isolated case. In this website, I have encountered readers who criticised that I don’t know English and sneered at my poor English proficiency.Because I only use Chinese so that stop communicating with me.

    天佑新加坡,让现执政党继续执政下去。
    Heaven bless Singapore to let the present govt continue to govern Singapore!
    ______________________________________________________________________

    TRE readers, do you all still believe he is a born and bred Singaporean? From his writing style, I can tell he is not. Those who can only write Chinese are from either previous generations and above and most of them can’t type in Chinese because they never learned Hanyu Pinyin.

    This is definitely a PRC puppy!

    我的这个好朋友阿,你对新

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  • 大成巷阿明:

    Zhenzidan:
    For the benefit of our non-Chinese readers, I shall translate what this fake Singaporean wrote when I challenged him to write in English to prove that he is a true-born Singaporen

    大成巷阿明:
    哇,我们的这个好朋友!

    是新加坡人就必须用英语来交流,辨论。这是什么罗辑?
    Singaporeans must definitely use English to communicate and debate? What logic is that?

    现在倒是我们有理由来怀疑我们的朋友是不是道地的新加坡人了。因为他好像是不知道新加坡宪法,不知道新加坡宪法给其公民权力的保障。
    Instead I suspect if he (Zhenzidan) is a Singaporean because he didn’t know that our constitution provide the citizens with rights and safeguards.

    更糟的是,他对在地情况也不清楚,不知道新加坡还有一大群土生土长的新加坡人只懂华语!如果他知道,就要问为什么他对这群人的需求无动于衷?
    What’s worse he doesn’t even know that a big group of true-blue Singaporeans only know Chinese! How come he is so nonchalant towards this group of people?

    新加坡在现执政党的管理下,一个只懂华语的人,不论去到哪一个政府机构,他绝对能得到他所需要的服务。现在的新加坡不完美,但只懂华语的那一大群人还能有声音,声音还能被听到。
    Under the present govt,someone who only knows Chinese will still be served no matter which govt organisation he goes to. Singapore may not be perfect but this big group of Chinese-only speaking people still have a voice which can be heard.

    不过,如果这位朋友不小心露出来的真面孔是代表现在野阵营的话,大志大枝了!如果有一天由他们来管理新加坡,那一大群只懂华语的,土生土长的新加坡人去到政府机构要一些服务,得到的可能是:说英语,然没有任何服务!
    If this friend (Zhenzidan) accidentally exposed himself to be from oppositions,that’s disastrous! If they become the govt, these true-blue Singaporeans who only speak Chinese will be told “Speak English, otherwise no service!

    这不是不可能的!因为这位朋友这样子的态度不是孤立的。我大成巷阿明在这个网站别的议题上也碰到类似的事情,批评我不会英语,嘲笑我英语差,只因为我只用华语就不再和我交流。。。。
    This is not impossible. Because his (Zhenzidan) is not an isolated case. In this website, I have encountered readers who criticised that I don’t know English and sneered at my poor English proficiency.Because I only use Chinese so that stop communicating with me.

    天佑新加坡,让现执政党继续执政下去。
    Heaven bless Singapore to let the present govt continue to govern Singapore!
    ______________________________________________________________________

    TRE readers, do you all still believe he is a born and bred Singaporean? From his writing style, I can tell he is not. Those who can only write Chinese are from either previous generations and above and most of them can’t type in Chinese because they never learned Hanyu Pinyin.

    This is definitely a PRC puppy!

    我的这位好朋友阿,你对新加坡的在地情况太不了解了!

    不懂英语的土生土长新加坡人大有人在,他们由于他们成长时期的客观条件而无法掌握英语,结果现在无法用英语来和人交流辨论!但他们许多的智商和情绪智商肯定会比这位尊贵的朋友高!

    但是,这并不是说他们无法掌握英语的字母。他们许多都能掌握英语的字母。掌握了英语字母,要掌握汉语拼音输入法就不难了!

    再者,这位朋友的翻译(中译英)很烂!

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  • oxygen:

    @ 大成巷阿明:

    MATE, YOUR OPENING VOLLEY OF NARRATIVE below is FACILE FART – slippery slope logical fallacy deception.

    大成巷阿明: 如果没有新加坡警察部队的贡献,这个社会能有这么安宁吗?

    鄞义林先生为了这个个案就发这么大的脾气,给人的感觉就是为了一棵树而错失了整座森林!

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  • Zhenzidan:

    大成巷阿明: 我的这位好朋友阿,你对新加坡的在地情况太不了解了!

    不懂英语的土生土长新加坡人大有人在,他们由于他们成长时期的客观条件而无法掌握英语,结果现在无法用英语来和人交流辨论!但他们许多的智商和情绪智商肯定会比这位尊贵的朋友高!

    但是,这并不是说他们无法掌握英语的字母。他们许多都能掌握英语的字母。掌握了英语字母,要掌握汉语拼音输入法就不难了!

    再者,这位朋友的翻译(中译英)很烂!

    掌握了英语字母,还不会用英语?只有大陆狗才这样!

    说我的翻译烂,自己却不敢接受挑战!呸!我周围有很多只会中文的朋友,但都是上了年纪的,都不会汉语拼音,所以不会上网打中文字。

    我只敢肯定你绝对不是新加坡人,你的语法跟以前那只大陆狗“龙的传人”一模一样,你就是他!

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  • Uncle 大成巷阿明:

    aiyo uncle ah uncle, if you say they 不懂英语 then you think you can use 华语来交流,辨论 with them ???

    Your 罗辑 even more 很大的问题 leh !!

    What is the chances of Singapore 马来人,印度人或者是欧亚裔, 懂英语 vs 懂华语 ???

    大成巷阿明: 尊重这位朋友的意见。

    但他的罗辑有很大的问题!

    他说如果交流或讨论牵涉到全新加坡民众,就必须以英语进行。

    肯定的,那些不懂英语(他们可能是华人,马来人,印度人或者是欧亚裔)的人的声音,肯定有许多是牵涉到全体新加坡人的。但他们不懂英语,怎么办?

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  • Uncle 大成巷阿明:

    aiyo ah uncle, English language proficiency is 掌握英语的字母??? 我的妈呀! you think we are talking about kindergarten level English ?

    汉语拼音输入法 some more !!!!

    You have no freaking idea what Zhenzidan wrote, and still have the gall to say 中译英很烂 !!!

    A true to form 阿Q you are !!!

    大成巷阿明: 我的这位好朋友阿,你对新加坡的在地情况太不了解了!

    不懂英语的土生土长新加坡人大有人在,他们由于他们成长时期的客观条件而无法掌握英语,结果现在无法用英语来和人交流辨论!但他们许多的智商和情绪智商肯定会比这位尊贵的朋友高!

    但是,这并不是说他们无法掌握英语的字母。他们许多都能掌握英语的字母。掌握了英语字母,要掌握汉语拼音输入法就不难了!

    再者,这位朋友的翻译(中译英)很烂!

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  • 大成巷阿明:

    Uncle 大成巷阿明:
    aiyo uncle ah uncle, if you say they 不懂英语 then you think you can use 华语来交流,辨论 with them ???

    Your 罗辑 even more 很大的问题 leh !!

    What is the chances of Singapore 马来人,印度人或者是欧亚裔, 懂英语 vs 懂华语 ???

    Uncle 大成巷阿明:
    aiyo ah uncle, English language proficiency is 掌握英语的字母??? 我的妈呀! you think we are talking about kindergarten level English ?

    汉语拼音输入法 some more !!!!

    You have no freaking idea what Zhenzidan wrote, and still have the gall to say 中译英很烂 !!!

    A true to form 阿Q you are !!!

    智商太低还是在装睡?

    台湾的蔡英文总統说过:装睡的人是叫不醒的。

    现在这位朋友肯定是在装睡!

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  • 大成巷阿明:

    oxygen:
    @ 大成巷阿明:

    MATE, YOUR OPENING VOLLEY OF NARRATIVE below is FACILE FART – slippery slope logical fallacy deception.

    在自言自语的胡说八道!

    有许多无所事事寂寞不已的新加坡退休老人都会这样!

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  • 大成巷阿明:

    Zhenzidan: 掌握了英语字母,还不会用英语?只有大陆狗才这样!

    说我的翻译烂,自己却不敢接受挑战!呸!我周围有很多只会中文的朋友,但都是上了年纪的,都不会汉语拼音,所以不会上网打中文字。

    我只敢肯定你绝对不是新加坡人,你的语法跟以前那只大陆狗“龙的传人”一模一样,你就是他!

    又是一个装睡的!

    不过,这个还有一张臭狗嘴!不但如此,还脾气暴躁,智商特低好卖弄又极端的自大!

    还是第一次看到说掌握了英语字母就等于掌握了英语的论述。如果这论述能被证实,诺贝尔奖就非他莫属!

    不接受挑战不等于不会,心虚。不接受这位朋友的挑战是因为没有这个必要。

    不知道自己翻译得很差是因为智商太低。不懂得反省,天大的错译,漏译摆在眼前也不知道!

    有话说:不知道自己不知道的人,避开他!看样子这个是最好的选择了,除非逼不得已!

    给这位朋友一点好处吧!

    他也许不知道他在翻译我用华文作的论述时的开场白说“For the benefit of our non-Chinese readers “就暴露了他对情势的了解和掌握极差!在这个论坛,只有非华人才不懂华语吗?

    智商低,真的是木法度!

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  • Uncle 大成巷阿明:

    Please lah !! don’t talk cock!! 新加坡退休老人 may speak Hokkien, Teochew, Cantonese, but speak and write mainland China style 华语 meh ????

    You are the one 在地情况不清楚,胡说八道!

    大成巷阿明: 在自言自语的胡说八道!

    有许多无所事事寂寞不已的新加坡退休老人都会这样!

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  • 鸟龙的人:

    Zhenzidan: 掌握了英语字母,还不会用英语?只有大陆狗才这样!

    说我的翻译烂,自己却不敢接受挑战!呸!我周围有很多只会中文的朋友,但都是上了年纪的,都不会汉语拼音,所以不会上网打中文字。

    我只敢肯定你绝对不是新加坡人,你的语法跟以前那只大陆狗“龙的传人”一模一样,你就是他!

    喔!你的智商很高
    能準確推测到就是那个大陆逃兵,赞
    他改名了?大成巷有个叫阿明的?
    动物园阿明才对,改名也不改更現实点
    几年后依就笨头笨恼,只会撞牛角尖和婆兰怕

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  • Uncle 大成巷阿明:

    which freaking 土生土长新加坡人 used the phase “木法度”!?

    And you are right!! Not only 非华人 don’t have a clue of what the fart you wrote, even most 土生土长新加坡华人 won’t be bother to read a diarrhea of 方块字 !!

    Except probably those new SG citizen from China, are your writings for them?

    大成巷阿明: 又是一个装睡的!

    不过,这个还有一张臭狗嘴!不但如此,还脾气暴躁,智商特低好卖弄又极端的自大!

    还是第一次看到说掌握了英语字母就等于掌握了英语的论述。如果这论述能被证实,诺贝尔奖就非他莫属!

    不接受挑战不等于不会,心虚。不接受这位朋友的挑战是因为没有这个必要。

    不知道自己翻译得很差是因为智商太低。不懂得反省,天大的错译,漏译摆在眼前也不知道!
    有话说:不知道自己不知道的人,避开他!看样子这个是最好的选择了,除非逼不得已!

    给这位朋友一点好处吧!

    他也许不知道他在翻译我用华文作的论述时的开场白说“For the benefit of our non-Chinese readers “就暴露了他对情势的了解和掌握极差!在这个论坛,只有非华人才不懂华语吗?

    智商低,真的是木法度!

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  • Zhenzidan:

    大成巷阿明: 又是一个装睡的!

    不过,这个还有一张臭狗嘴!不但如此,还脾气暴躁,智商特低好卖弄又极端的自大!

    不接受挑战不等于不会,心虚。不接受这位朋友的挑战是因为没有这个必要。。如果这论述能被证实,诺贝尔奖就非他莫属!

    不接受挑战不等于不会,心虚。不接受这位朋友的挑战是因为没有这个必要。

    不知道自己翻译得很差是因为智商太低。不懂得反省,天大的错译,漏译摆在眼前也不知道!

    有话说:不知道自己不知道的人,避开他!看样子这个是最好的选择了,除非逼不得已!

    给这位朋友一点好处吧!

    他也许不知道他在翻译我用华文作的论述时的开场白说“For the benefit of our non-Chinese readers “就暴露了他对情势的了解和掌握极差!在这个论坛,只有非华人才不懂华语吗?

    智商低,真的是木法度!

    这只哈巴狗越狡辩,越是暴露大陆狗的本性!
    —————————————————————-
    说什么“不接受挑战不等于不会,心虚。不接受这位朋友的挑战是因为没有这个必要。”
    以前那只大陆狗“龙的传人”也是这样,中国整天呼喊“钓鱼岛”是中国的,却不敢登岛和日本打,说什么“我们爱好和平”。呸!
    =========================================================================
    说什么:
    “还是第一次看到说掌握了英语字母就等于掌握了英语的论述”
    ————————————————————————
    你是瞎了眼睛还是连中文都看不懂?我是说“掌握了英语字母,还不会用英语?”
    这两句话的意思有天渊之别,你却硬把这两句话胡扯在一起,你才是智商低!
    ========================================================================
    说什么:
    “不知道自己翻译得很差是因为智商太低。不懂得反省,天大的错译,漏译摆在眼前也不知道!”
    —————————————————————————
    自己连基本英文会话都回表达,还有脸说我翻译差,我的屁股也在嘲笑你啊!
    =======================================================================
    说什么:
    他也许不知道他在翻译我用华文作的论述时的开场白说“For the benefit of our non-Chinese readers “就暴露了他对情势的了解和掌握极差!在这个论坛,只有非华人才不懂华语吗?

    着论坛看不懂中文多半是非华族读者,所以这话并没错!
    ===============================================================
    装睡的人为什么叫不醒?因为他们知道什么时候该醒!反观是装聪明的人永远教不聪明,因为他们不知道自己笨!

    自作聪明丢了面
    还在发表烂意见
    本性低等仍不变
    吹起牛逼最老练
    不但不觉得亏欠
    整天来这里狡辩
    无中生有来欺骗
    屁话连篇没底线
    根本没廉耻观念
    牢骚言不停出现
    听了真他妈厌倦
    你这疯狗真够贱
    难怪处处惹人厌

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  • Zhenzidan:

    correction

    自己连基本英文会话都回表达,还有脸说我翻译差,我的屁股也在嘲笑你啊!
    —-

    should be 都不会表达。

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  • 大成巷阿明:

    群魔乱舞,唯恐天下不乱,可恶!

    要感谢淡马锡论坛提供了这个让群魔乱舞的平台,让这群牛鬼蛇神原形毕露,真是功德无量!

    无用置疑的,这群牛鬼蛇神的最终下场必定是在地獄里,痛苦的慢慢腐烂!

    阿们!

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  • 鸟龙的人:

    大成巷阿明:
    群魔乱舞,唯恐天下不乱,可恶!

    要感谢淡马锡论坛提供了这个让群魔乱舞的平台,让这群牛鬼蛇神原形毕露,真是功德无量!

    无用置疑的,这群牛鬼蛇神的最终下场必定是在地獄里,痛苦的慢慢腐烂!

    阿们!

    哈哈哈
    动物园阿明
    人在做天在看
    后会有期 阿弥陀佛

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  • Zhenzidan:

    大成巷阿明:
    群魔乱舞,唯恐天下不乱,可恶!

    要感谢淡马锡论坛提供了这个让群魔乱舞的平台,让这群牛鬼蛇神原形毕露,真是功德无量!

    无用置疑的,这群牛鬼蛇神的最终下场必定是在地獄里,痛苦的慢慢腐烂!

    阿们!

    哈哈哈!
    什么牛鬼或蛇神
    都比不上这鸟人
    辩论不会写英文
    被我骂到很消沉
    这种没用的废人
    尽早把他送入坟!

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