Why can’t I use my own CPF money for my daughter’s education?

Today, I went down to CPF building to inquire upon my daughter’s school fees. Because my salary did not reach the lowest deposit I can’t apply to use CPF for my daughter’s school fees. I want to ask, right now in my CPF there is 70,000+, I only need 15,000 to pay for my daughter’s school fees.

In the past, the government used to say that by the time we hit the age of 55, we can make a withdrawal from my CPF. Currently I’m already 60 years old, with an unstable job, how am I suppose to get the needed cash for my daughter’s education?!

The response of the staff at CPF shocked me. He said: ‘The past is the past, now is now, now the rules changed, if you did not hit the lowest deposit, you can’t take your CPF money.’

I requested again, saying: ‘The money in my CPF is my hard earned money, i only need to use a part of it to pay for my daughter’s school fees which is $15,000, my CPF has more than enough inside to pay for my daughter’s school fees. Is there another way to do this?’

To which the staff replied: ‘Can apply, the chance of it is zero’

This is a huge news to me. If I’ve never experienced it myself, I would thought that what other’s have went through are just false news.

I felt cheated, humiliated, angry. So many years of hard work, sweat and tears to earn the money and it’s inside CPF. It is suppose to be my money. I’m in need of it and yet, I cannot take my own money to help pay my daughter’s school fees.

Please share this post to help.

As a father, i want to help my daughter, looking at my CPF that still has a bit of money to pay but can’t do it.

Do I really have to resort to borrowing money and loans when i got my money in my CPF? Should I be forced to stopped my daughter’s education?

Believe that this does not happen to just me. This kind of government order, treating our own Singaporeans like this, can i still have trust and faith in them? Even for just my child’s school fees.

What should i do? What can i do?

 

*Facebook post by Lim Koh Leong

 

Editor’s note:

CPF’s has responded, saying: “As Mr Lim did not have sufficient CPF savings for a basic retirement, allowing him to use his CPF for his daughter’s education is not appropriate. The better approach is to find other ways to finance his daughter’s school fees. We have spoken to him and are discussing alternative options. The Nanyang Academy of Fine Arts will also be in touch with him.”

 

 

 

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49 Responses to “Why can’t I use my own CPF money for my daughter’s education?”

  • Singapore Kong Come:

    Everybody CPF is reserve for those dogs’ minister salary. CPF is not your money. U vote for them to manipulate your money. U vote for them to to allow them to fetch million $$$$$ salary from U people CPF.U keep on asking back for your CPF, they use threat and increase your CPF ceiling. Make U “Tan Ku Ku” till U drop dead. Till U’r dead than the CPF will B return, When U’r alive U can’t even smell your CPF money. Next GE, rememember not to anyhow give your worth million $$$$$ vote in your hand to those dogs’ minister, Want back your CPF. U must vote 1/3 opposition into parleement to stop them dragging your CPF till 100years old.I love to keep pet puppy. I don’t like to feed dogs’ minister.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Some advice

    1. Who did you vote for? I believe you voted pappies from your post – then too bad.

    2. You should know by now CPF is not your money.

    3. Expect the withdrawal age to increase so you never see a single cent.

    4. Tell your daughter she need not study as the pappies will make sure the jobs will go to FT anyway. You are just being a loyal citizen to make sure your daughter sacrifices her future for the FT.

    4. Thank the 70% for this – if you are also one of the 70% then thank yourself.

    Lastly – Remember in SG “You die your business”. No one gives a sh*t about you and your daughter, It is the $G way.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Mr. Lim still believes his CPF belongs to him.

    Everyone please seriously be advised “YOUR CPF IS NOT YOUR MONEY!”.

    So, for those PG and MG, whatever the PAP gave you as top-up in the CPF is not yours, it still belongs to the government! So don’t be too happy about it.

    If you vote against the PAP this coming GE, you might get a chance to take your CPF. Otherwise you can forget about your CPF.

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  • David Neo - King Kong Ass:

    Change voting habits

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  • somehow suka suka changed:

    //The past is the past, now is now, now the rules changed, if you did not hit the lowest deposit, you can’t take your CPF money.//

    yar lor. rules changed lor ? such snobbish / arrogant response when the staff has the safe backing of an equally snobbish / arrogant institution ?

    one’s own cpf money, and rules somehow suka suka changed (win liao lor) to dictate how someone (or some institution) should have more rights over the rightful owner on when or how the money should be withdrawn ?

    some sinkies are too slow to appreciate this predicament (or some of the policy results) one may fall into until he / she experiences themselves (and say bo bian lor) ?

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  • TruBlu:

    ++++The response of the staff at CPF shocked me. He said: ‘The past is the past, now is now, now the rules changed, if you did not hit the lowest deposit, you can’t take your CPF money.’++++
    =========================$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$============================

    the arrogant CPF OFFICER is simply saying the truth,HARD TRUTH!

    ITS JUST THAT 70 pct of goons still refuse to wake up n preferring to LIVE IN THE PAST?!!!

    YES,the PAST IS PAST;now,IT IS LEE AH LONG,the MAFIA AH LONG ker with * 4G * not TAI KOR LOR HANDPHONES like in the PAST!

    OSO,ONE NMP saois YOUR CPF IS NOT YOUR MONEY and LEE AH LONG grinned really hard and scheme CPF LIE,er,LIFE?

    BTW,ask your kid to GO TO INDIA OR CHINA,buy citizenship and apply as FT-SCHOLAR???…Maybe GOT CHANCE?

    WELL,like i say,SGS HAVE CHOOSEN TO BECOME THIRD CLASS *RESIDENTS* EVEN AS third world economic scavengers come here and take our place as FIRST CLASS CITIZENS?

    DONT THANK me,dont even thank your MPs or EP,THANK THE SHEEPLE?

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  • Asd:

    You voted for such policy.. so shut up and live with it lor..

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  • CPF IS NOT YOURS:

    What you cannot hold in your hands is not yours. It’s a legal SCAM!

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  • Darth Vader:

    Dear Mr. Lim,

    Please don’t ask stupid questions. Don’t you already know WHY you can’t withdraw your CPF money? It’s because if you’re allowed to withdraw the $15,000/-, there’ll be $15,000/- less in the CPF for the ugly monkey and the pink moron to squander in failed investments and white elephant projects, that’s why!!!!

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  • Who you voting for?:

    Now you know who you must vote for in the coming election?

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  • Singapore Fooled Again N Again:

    On the other hand, our Robert Head Ah Kong GENEROUSLY dished out hundreds of million public $$$ to foreigners to settle in Singapore and given these foreigners a guaranteed place to study in our schools/Universities and best of all, all expenses paid, including accommodation taken care for. While our own children are deprived of studying over money and regretting over it for whole life while these foreigners take full advantages of the systems

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  • My $8 heart bypass:

    If you have been voting for the PAPIGS all these past years, you deserved to be screwed.
    But if you did not, then you should be going around and and tell your friends , relatives how the PAPIGS have been screwing everyone of their CPF funds.

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  • Tatman:

    What a horrible country!!

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  • MarBowling:

    Mr Lim,

    You should engage the service of Mr Bai Feng Wei. Ask him to collect your money from CPF Board!

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  • Asdd:

    Why you all vote without reading its manifesto ?

    Or was it not written in the manifesto ?

    What is what ?

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  • rukidding:

    The “rumour” of course s that Cheng Hu …..already “broke” !

    You are “kpkbing”…over Education funding ..

    Did you know that “sick with critical illness” people who have to spent at least $500 a month on medication …ALSO CANNOT ACCESS and USE their medisave ( own $$$)….Cheng Hu only allow $300 PER YEAR HOR !…PER YEAR ONLY $300/= !!!

    Not sure “how and why”… those 70% “dafts” voted for these Pimps and prostitutes ?????

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  • Singaporean Kong Come.:

    The past is the past, now is now, In the past there R some old guard to is shouting for the return of the peoples’ oney. now the rules changed,Conman tactics, first they give U a very sweet interest rate @ 6.5%. once they accumulate your CPF well, then lower down your interest rate. later come out with all sort of kelong policy to trap your CPF. Public has been shouting at them for the past decade, they turn a deaf ear, instead use threat against U. Charge U or jail U.

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  • CPF is not your money:

    When I was in CPF Board, I told the Officer that I want to drawn down my monthly entitlement and he asked if I do need it.

    I frankly told him I don’t but what if one day I need a lump sum can I draw it? The answer the Officier gave me was “No”. Anyway, I started my draw down of my entitlement on that day and I save it in my current account. This is the case I was thinking that if one day I need $15,000 how to get it even in my CPF I do have that amount.

    Mr Lim Koh Leong, I am sure we are sorry to hear your problem but please open your eyes and thought this coming GE. Claim back our right.

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  • Lost Soul Singaporean..:

    What should i do? What can i do? Your duty is to call on your sibling ,friend to throw out this good for nothing regime ,by using your words of mouth, vote in 1/3 or 2/3 opposition. There is hope U can get back your sweat n blood money. Do not vote blindly, voting for the white regime again, that mean U R helping them to kill your children future.

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  • clown pap lies:

    happened to watch pap tv.

    on came the commercial. the old folks, 2 pairs, one pair talking about their children buying HDB rental lease on 100% CPF with need for zero cash, and the other pair talking about selling back 30 years of HDB rental lease at S$75k.

    BOTH messages are half truths, what everyone calls fake news.

    1st, 100% CPF for HDB rental lease does not do away with the problem of zero S$ for retirement, since the problem is expensive HDB rental lease. HDB rental lease is supposed to be for public housing. The pap pricing HDB using private property methods is causing a lot of pain to 70% sheep.

    2nd, the S$75k received from selling back 30 years HDB rental lease cannot be taken out unless minimum sum in RA is met. This means after selling back 30 years HDB rental lease, this couple still hold zero S$ for their retirement.

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  • Cannot get $8 surgery:

    Ah Lim, why you so “gong”? Your CPF money – can see but cannot touch!

    I also have same problem. I need specialist treatment and consultation so I thought I can use my CPF money. But they tell me, yes I can but it is capped at $200 per year. One visit for specialist consultation can costs more $150+ so from 2nd visit got to pay out-of-pocket. Cannot use my CPF to pay for my own medical needs. Cruel joke! Who wants to get sick? When I go to hospital for surgery, I asked if I can pay $8, they laughed at me.

    Ah Lim, you asked “what should I do? what can I do?” Simple: VTO!

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Dear Mr. Lim Koh Leong,

    Your last statement was “What should i do? What can i do?”

    My basic question to you is: In all the past GEs, WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR? Ha!

    Now then you ask what should you do?
    No wonder you are part of those with Spineless Sinkie Syndrome (SSS).

    If you continue to be Spineless this coming GE. Then I got no sympathy for you and will say to you:
    You fully DESERVE it so you can forever sit on your sorry arse and ask “What can you do?.

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  • betrayed n lied to:

    can afford to die but cant afford to get sick in sg.
    medisave so hard to use…medishield the same.
    cpf money taken and shifted to cpf life w/o interests paid.
    so what the bloody hell are they doing with our hard earned money ?
    can see but cannot touch.
    first they rob us blind then they shut us up( fake news laws)!
    isnt all this a modern day version of crimes against humanity ?

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  • TUCK WAN:

    Quote: “What should I do. What can I do” ?
    Answer: If you cannot think what and can? Then u are beyond help. Change your bad habit.

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  • Bernard:

    Will SINGAPOREAN do a Hong Konger?
    If not, shut up and die happily with your choice.
    Screwed up self centered, arrogant and selfish citizens.

    No symphanty or an eye drop for being draft.
    You reap what you sow.

    Dare you to change for a better tomorrow.

    Also, start the process of a singapore Najib and his merry men and women.

    Good helip your soul.

    Amen

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  • Bilbo:

    Dear Mr Lim,

    I think everyone is not upset with you but upset with our stupid countrymen who voted in the same master each time in order for us to complain the same thing and worsen situations.

    We are upset with the past seniors who made our life today.

    The way you narrated, we cannot helped but felt that you had voted those people who created today’s woes. Your naive and ignorance made us feel more sorry for your daughter due to the past decisions you made to make her suffer.

    You will be coming to the end of your path soon and you are leaving more hardships for your daughter. If you feel at least remorse, VTO. We cannot change the past but we can help create a better country for our children.

    VTO is the theme. Print it on our t-shirt, bag or your screen saver. Don’t be hypnotized by their words again!

    If you need to tatoo VTO on ypur forehead, just do it!

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  • Bobo:

    A good wake-up call for another bo-chap, bo-bian Singaporeans. There’re many more on the queue waiting to be slapped left and right by PAP thousands of times. The public and opposition parties can not help you either with your painful story because we’re all in the same boat, waiting for it to drown.

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  • sangent:

    Mr Lim, this is what you get in return when you voted them in past GEs
    Somebody mentioned in parliament that CPF is not your money.
    Remember this coming GE, you must use your vote wisely and tell your relatives and friends to do the same. VTO

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  • SGs still sleeping:

    Stop dreaming, don’t expect 70% to vote against the corrupted party. Pro pap supporters are short-sighted and never want any change, they preferred to be screwed than making new changes. Singaporeans compare nowhere to Hong Kongers and Malaysian. They believe in FREEDOMS. I give my utmost respect and high regards to them. Singaporeans??? Useless bums, only know how to laugh at and criticised the protesters for their ‘stupidity’. Singaporeans have no dignity and a bloody coward and useless human-like pinky. Very sad for the 30% ‘brave and sensible’ Singaporeans for trying hard to make SG a better future for our children’s children. Unfortunately, we have BOCHAP AND BOBIAN self-fish and greedy idiots don’t support your dreams. Wish you and family could find a caring place where human’s freedoms are respected and honoured.

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  • fools garden:

    Well, HO JINX N GIC need your CPF to $quander on aliens.
    If you not happy, we fiack care???

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  • time to fight back VTO:

    if they tell us to walk, we shd run..
    if they tell us to sit , we shd stand.
    if we believe them we die faster.
    so spread your message far and wide.
    fight back by VTO!

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  • VTO:

    1 way…….a simple way………VTO!

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  • fpc:

    who did you vote? if you voted pap, you deserve this.

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  • oxygen:

    @ LIM KOH LEONG, AFTER THIS EPISODE OF REALITY-HITS-HOME EXPERIENCE, do you think CPF was ever your money?

    If you know the objective answer to this simple question, you did be smart enough to know the answer to your own question right???

    Lim Koh Leong :What should i do? What can i do?

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  • NotMyProblem:

    CPF’s full statement: “As Mr Lim did not have sufficient CPF savings for a basic retirement, allowing him to use his CPF for his daughter’s education is not appropriate. The better approach is to find other ways to finance his daughter’s school fees. We have spoken to him and are discussing alternative options. The Nanyang Academy of Fine Arts will also be in touch with him.”

    In short Mr. Lim doesn’t have enough money in the CPF for TH to gamble. Remember your CPF money is TH’s money. Mr. Lim cannot even take out $15 let alone $15,000. Mr. Lim alternative is to beg, borrow or steal but not CPF.

    I don’t feel sorry for Mr. Lim, as he voted for it, but I feel sorry for his daughter’s education. Perhaps, Mr. Lim could borrow Minister Khaw’s advice; “You cannot eat your degree”, so forget it. After all degree or not, she will be working under a FT with questionable certificate!

    For those who are in the same situation, you will be voting for your future generations!

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  • DAVE:

    Zorro lim will tell you he feel so happy and feel like a millionaire every time he look at his CPF statement. what he did not say is you can see but cannot touch . By the way they will stretch the your pitiful pittance payout from 65 to 90. in other words you will be begging from them till the day you die. So better wake and ‘F’ them off while you are alive and able to.

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  • Two ways:

    To get the CPF without minimum deposit for all I know is either you give up your citizenship or you pass on (demise) then immediately the CPF money is yours without any minimum sum or etc bullshit. Now I start to understand why there are so many elderly suicides recently for no reason. Maybe this is the ultimate last way to get their CPF out.

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  • Who said it is not his money?:

    I understand his predicament having a sum in CPF enough for education but not enough for retirement. In order to solve the problem is to have more oppo representation so that debate into the flexible use of our CPF can be entertained to solve the immediate money crisis in genuine case given that CPF board refuse to entertain.

    Perhaps to him investing in education for his children is also an form of investment hopefully for his future retirement consideration.

    Borrowing money from the bank to fund education would be the next viable solution. Unless maybe CPF can be flexible to allow temporary withdrawal and repay to his CPF later.

    It is like got money can see cannot touch. Mind you this is his money. Who said this is not his money.

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  • copy and paste:

    interests earned in RA going into pool and not to CPF member beneficiary is daylight robbery.

    after all, the same sum of money in commercial bank, and not forcefully kept in RA, earns interest and the interest earned goes to bank account holder beneficiaries, not to any bank pool.

    how come 70% sheep does NOT realize this injustice?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Who said it is not his money?

    GO ASK YOUR LAWYER THIS SIMPLE – can anyone harvest your organs or cut up your corpse for medical or entertainment experiment after death WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT PRIOR?

    If the answer is affirmative, neither your corpse nor your organs belongs to you. It is either public property or public waste to be thrown into the bin at someone’s whim or fancy.

    If the answer is negative, it means you even owns your dead corpse. The hospital or the police in crime investigation can’t dispose of it according to its fancy or in any manner without your or your family consent in proxy.

    The law doctrine of animus domini apply CPF retirement money or property law, B or any other has no say in its final disposition and use.

    I can’t visit your home, dig into your wallet and take out $500 for my big dinner out tonight except in theft.

    Or can I?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Who said it is not his money?

    IF MR. LIM KOH LEONG IS A CREDITOR (and he is clearly not), he can enforce his ownership rights by recall of his retirement money “loan” to CPFB.

    Clearly he is not the owner of that money, so he can’t be its creditor.

    SINCE LIM KOH LEONG IS NOT A CREDITOR AND CANNOT RECALL HIS HYPOTHETICAL LOAN to CPFB, WHO IS THE OWNER WHO EXERCISE ALL RIGHTS OF FINAL DETERMINATION AND CONTROL OF OUTCOMES – the animus domini law doctrine?

    It must be any other party EXCEPT LIM KOH LEONG!!

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  • You are stupid:

    Your CPF is not yours. It’s not like EPF.The government just wants you to work and work until you drop dead. The sooner Singaporeans like you realise this the better. Next time think carefully when casting your vote.

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  • Where's My CPF?:

    You are just digits and slaves to the natural aristocrats.
    CPF was your money until you keep it with them.
    It belongs to them now.
    Stupid You let them make the rules.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    So I am right about this typical one with Spineless Sinkie Syndrome.

    After reading the below, really have to pui pui pui on this spineless specimen of 70% Sinkie class.

    Latest update is that this “Kiasi” scared shitless when CPF “responded” to his FB post that had went viral, and then he actually “apolgized” to CPF, probably to avoid being served LEEgal letters? Hahaha.

    Furthermore, this Spineless specimen then still say thank you, thank you repeatedly to everyone after he finally managed to get some money from his family or relatives due to the publicity (even if its shameless publicity?)

    Problem solved at least TEMPORARILY, for this Selfish & Spineless Sinkie.
    Wooohhhooo! His faith is restored and he can go back to VOTE the incumbent again?

    No wonder everyone says Sinkies are really hopeless besides being spineless and brainless.

    https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2019/06/30/man-apologises-to-cpf-board-and-decides-to-get-help-from-loved-ones-for-childs-school-fees/

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  • the discretionary portion:

    //he feel so happy and feel like a millionaire every time he look at his CPF statement.//

    Ah Lim had to say this lar and it is only good in his perspective lar and he is also a ‘koyok salesman’ for the white idiotic team also ?

    also his salary is so high that even the discretionary portion of it could also be so high relative to the cpf share (got cap right for employee and employer share) lar ?? they are all more-than-$500k-pa (not mediocre) category lar (all very happy to sacrifice their time working for the ‘benefits for daft sinkies and their future; and not giving much chance to the oppo to participate in such sacrifice) ???

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  • hardest truths:

    Harder Truths:
    Some advice

    1. Who did you vote for? I believe you voted pappies from your post – then too bad.
    2. You should know by now CPF is not your money.
    3. Expect the withdrawal age to increase so you never see a single cent.
    4. Tell your daughter she need not study as the pappies will make sure the jobs will go to FT anyway. You are just being a loyal citizen to make sure your daughter sacrifices her future for the FT.
    4. Thank the 70% for this – if you are also one of the 70% then thank yourself.

    Lastly – Remember in SG “You die your business”. No one gives a sh*t about you and your daughter, It is the $G way.

    Spot on! And the ABSOLUTE TRUTH. All you who read this, cut and paste it to all your relatives, friends and kakis. THIS is the REAL story. Good luck to you if you voted pigs all these years! You deserve it 1000% plus chop!

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  • I am 64 soon:

    My classmate, already passes 64, call him T
    Ten years ago he just has another nest of kids from his second marriage, two girls .. BTW, he has another two boys from his first marriage, now both completed NS, and working
    Now T’s two little girls just get into primary school
    Now T has to drive taxi, part-time tour guide ….
    No end tunnel .. poor T has to work till 80
    so… dont blame anybody, dont blame CPF board

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  • oxygen:

    @ I am 64 soon.

    Your friend T is an exception, he is NOT THE NARRATIVE for all other CPF members whose interest have been exploited and abused beyond recognition of frequent random arbitrary changed rules.

    In politics and business, silence and concealment are danger looming signs – IT COULD MEANS A PLOT IS HATCHED BY THE DECISION-MAKER/S.

    That is what women tell me.

    I am 64 soon: My classmate, already passes 64, call him T

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  • another family venture:

    //Ten years ago he just has another nest of kids from his second marriage, two girls .. BTW, he has another two boys from his first marriage, now both completed NS, and working
    Now T’s two little girls just get into primary school
    Now T has to drive taxi, part-time tour guide ….
    No end tunnel .. poor T has to work till 80
    so… dont blame anybody, dont blame CPF board//

    aiyoh. this kind of example (if the story is true) ?.

    it is already tough going for many people in bringing up a family for a good part of their lives. but what to do, Mr. T decided to go into another family venture with all his good experience.

    so does it mean other people (must be many of them) who are NOT members of Mr. T’s club can justifiably blame anybody or our beloved CFP board.

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