Which type of democratic system is better?

Should a country adopt a democratic system and which system should it adopt? How can Singapore change its political system?

The best examples of democratic systems are the US and the UK systems. Both of them are flawed.

The US political system is dysfunctional. They have a president that acts in an erratic manner and they are unable to control his excesses. The three pillars of power – legislature, executive, judiciary, takes conflicting positions on many issues.

The UK system is generally satisfactory, but the inability of their parliament to agree on the terms of Brexit shows its limitations.

One key weakness of the democratic system of “one man one vote” is that the person who is elected comes from a party who makes bold promises in their manifesto which are often not achievable.

There is also the risk that the successful candidate has ample funding from vested interest, and have to abide by their donor’s wishes after their election.

What other forms of government can be considered?

Here are some possible approaches:

a) Proportional representation, as practiced in some countries, such as Germany
b) Direct democracy, as practiced in Switzerland
c) The communist party system.

I prefer the direct democracy practiced in Switzerland. On major issues, the voters are asked to give their preference in a referendum. The results of the referendum guide their legislature in passing the laws of the country.

I also like the proportional representation system. Apart from candidates that are elected directly, each political party is able to nominate additional representatives to their legislature based on the votes that they received in the general election.

I also like the communist party system. Most people think that it is not democratic, but they may not realize that their leaders, at various levels of the party, are elected democratically within the party. Furthermore, the party members are politically aware and can make better decisions, compared to an open democracy where many of the voters are not politically aware.

For a small country like Singapore, it is probably best to adopt the Swiss system of direct democracy.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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21 Responses to “Which type of democratic system is better?”

  • opposition dude:

    Nothing is perfect in life. The system that should be adopted is one where the government of the day does things for the people and not do the opposite of it.

    No sense having a democratic or communist government if all they do is look after their own interests and not the people.

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  • Great Asia:

    If democracy is a river, then the Americans and bananas Singaporeans are just fish living in this river.

    The mighty 5000-year-old Chinese civilisation is like an ocean. Democracy, Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Buddhism, Confucianism, Daoism, Christianity, Islam and other schools of thought and ideologies are just rivers feeding this mighty ocean.

    The Chinese are ocean fish.

    Ha ha ha!

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  • The Rule of LAW:

    Lim Tean “UK type” Democracy. “The British Colonial Masters Bequeathed to us – The Rule of Law” Hong Kong, America…. https://youtu.be/TcycYT3VOl4?t=412

    Where people and the nation prosper… and where Singapore begins.

    I am sure he [Lim Tean] can be the best PM.

    When someone begins to be exempted themselves from the Rule of Law, change the constitution… that restrict your voice to a tiny corner.. then you should really begin to get worried…. It is those that are hidden, that you cannot see, that are kept secret… I am sure many things are hidden from views… When even clinic subsidies are questionable….. you know the smell of dead bodies lying around.

    We need real honest, sincere and dedicated people to run this country.

    Singaporeans, the People, First….. not Singapore First

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:

    Yes TKL. I agreed with you. UK and US democracy are flaws.

    Look at Hong Kong now trying out UK democracy and it result in chaos.

    And the useless HONG KONG Police Force cannot even handle a small protest.

    Hong Kong is in chaos now because of infiltration by CIA and other western powers.

    https://www.hk01.com/%E7%A4%BE%E6%9C%83%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E/362448/%E8%91%B5%E6%B6%8C%E8%A1%9D%E7%AA%81-%E7%9B%B4%E6%92%AD-%E7%A4%BA%E5%A8%81%E8%80%85%E8%BD%89%E6%88%B0%E8%91%B5%E6%B6%8C-%E9%98%B2%E6%9A%B4%E8%AD%A6%E8%91%B5%E8%8A%B3%E7%AB%99%E5%85%A7%E6%94%BE%E5%82%AC%E6%B7%9A%E5%BD%88

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    TRUMP erratic???…Tan Ahhhh!!! look into the mirror and ask yourself who is that??? an IDIOT saying TRUMP is erratic and what about PM Loong the dragon that sashays and NOT walks like his namesake a Dragon!!!

    Maybe just maybe you should either be PM or President in your next try…when Singapore no longer exist and there is no one to compete with leh!!!

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  • what a pea brained idea:

    goh cock tong BSed 70% sheep swee swee with swiss cost of living.

    so much so anything with swiss must be viewed with suspicion.

    why not just topple pap and let New Government by a better group of Singaporeans decide what type of government it is to be.

    we are certain Ms Sylvia Lim Mr Lim Tean Dr Tan CB Mr KJeyaretnam Mr Roy Ngerng Mr Leon Perara Mr Gilbert Goh and such worthy men and women of Singapore can put forward a better system than current clown pap nepotistic cronyistic corrupt parleementary system.

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  • Darth Vader:

    Oh boy, more LUNATIC RAVINGS from tkl! So WHEN is this MORON going to be involuntarily committed to the IMH anyway?!

    1) President Trump’s election is NOTHING to do with the nature of the US political system in of itself and is more to do with his ability to appeal to a wider spectrum of American voters and conservative Americans getting fed up with the increasing leftward drift of the Democrat party. Also, the gridlock that American politics is notorious for actually results from a check and balance system that is working exactly as intended. In stark contrast, this doesn’t happen here because the pap dominates everything!!!!

    2) Brexit did NOT result from flaws with British democracy, it resulted from enough Britons being fed up of Eurocrats they did NOT elect dictating to them the way Britain must be run, in particular being forced to take in Eastern European migrants and now African and Middle-Eastern refugees. As for the problems facing Brexit, again, this results more from irreconcilable differences between London and Brussels than anything else. It certainly has absolutely NOTHING to do with Britain’s election system!!!!

    3) The Swiss direct voting system? So tkl expects that every time legislation is to be passed there needs to be a referendum? A referendum for constitutional change maybe. But EVERY single piece of legislation? So is voting supposed to be mandatory then? If so, DOES tkl know that not everybody is so free to keep voting over every little thing? And if it’s not, then wouldn’t the outcome of every referendum be that ONLY the wishes of activists of the domimant party will be reflected????!!!!

    4) The communist system?! TKL, WHICH ARE YOU, INSANE OR STUPID????!!!! OR BOTH????!!!! Here we are, trying to find ways to break the pap’s stranglehold on power so that we can FINALLY have TRUE accountability and democracy, and this DAMNED IDIOT is ADVOCATING a system where ONLY members of the ruling party can elect the country’s leaders, a system that will ENTRENCH one-party rule FOREVER!!!!

    tkl, HOW is this democratic when the people have no choice or even say in how we are governed????!!!!

    tkl, for once in your life, maybe, just maybe, you should READ UP and DO RESEARCH before shooting your STUPID mouth off, instead of viewing the world solely from the inside of your own large intestine excretory tract!!!!

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  • HouseOfSin:

    The language of old is best when you want to step back and look at the treacherous history of man. We see nations rise and nations had fallen( or shaken) and today there is no exception.

    Instead of political system, which only confuses you, you should be asking whose kingdom you are serving under. Then you ask, who is the king or strong man, whose WILL and words you live by and bow to.

    While you are at it also check out the foundations of the House of the king. The House of the king is his kingdom.

    If, after close scrutiny, think that the foundation of the house is good for he people and the people are happy servants to the king, then nothing changes.

    You see, it is not your preferential leaders (through the polling stations) which dictate changes because when they are elected into the House, they have to behave under House rules of the king and also serve the House.

    If you are not happy with the king, you may get the king removed and replaced(not easy) and history has shown the House never gets better.

    So heed the old man’s last will which he had uttered unknowingly. In his last will, before relinquishing his House, he called for the House to be demolished. If you had listen carefully to the spirit behind his reasons for demolishing his House, you will be surprised how prophetic the King’s word was.

    So whose Will do you live by will decide the fate of humanity or future generations. Looking at HK, also a prosperous nation, you are just a better thief.

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  • Went to Japan:

    I think TKL is getting old and senile. CCP democractic? Since when?

    The CCP central committee is designed only a selected few who were the pioneer’s of the party and there after their descendants or closed relatives. And they agreed to take turn to be President, limiting to 2 terms. This has changed when President Xi came on board, he declared himself the Emperor with no term limit and removed the 9 men central committee and installed his own close knitted gang. In the term limit voting, every one was warned what to vote or face the consequence after the voting. In the end, all voted yes and 2 abstained; no one dared to vote against it.

    TKL, you call this democractic?

    I think Singapore system is the same, the leader strongly advised the committee what to do and committee member “were encouraged” to do what they were told to do. Otherwise, you wont see them next term.

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  • Harder Truths:

    TKL

    You need to be fair to the readers – if you want to discuss such weighty matters that is fine – but do the subject justice.

    Please respect the people here. They are giving up their time to look at what you wrote. Don’t shortchange them with sweeping claims and conclusions and above all making it a difficult post to read through.

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  • Reality Check:

    “The US political system is dysfunctional. They have a president that acts in an erratic manner and they are unable to control his excesses. The three pillars of power – legislature, executive, judiciary, takes conflicting positions on many issues.”

    The above statement is very unfair to supporters of the President of USA when no examples were cited to show how he acts in an erratic manner and who are these ‘They’ that Writer says could not control his excesses. This is a bad sweeping statement made against a hard working leader of another country and this is the 2nd time i know of that Writer expressed his biased view of the President of the United States. >
    Writer says he wants his views respected, then respect the views of others too and provide examples if you have opposing views so that we can have the right to rebut your claims against the President of the USA. Be professional, provide evidence to support what you are writing about. And finally, isn’t taking conflicting positions what democracy is all about as each are separate entities. How is it called democracy if the legislature and judiciary are always in agreement, or worse still, in compliant with the executive.

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  • Rabble-rouser:

    @ Tan Kin Lian:
    You’ve got it all wrong! People should get rid of overbearing political systems & their unproductive structures. Go back to the basics!

    The present day S’pore Govt (& the PAP) are Dysfunctional. They have turn everything upside down onto it’s head!

    Their Roles aren’t that of a Elected Govt but a for profit Corporate entity disguised as a benevolent Govt. Yet they dare tell you, “No one owes you a Living” & “Who doesn’t want to collect more money?”.

    Anyone with a brain would know this isn’t a govt but a callous business enterprise (Orwellian Animal Farm) with no regard for it’s employees, it’s eco-system dwellers ie. mere “digits”.

    George Orwell who wrote Animal Farm modelled his satrical tale of an animals uprising on the Soviet Union, who he believed, had became a brutal dictatorship, built upon a cult of personality and enforced by a reign of terror. [Sounds familiar?]

    People (like the Animals) were being exploited till their old age & death – the need to keep working. Much in the George Orwell’s Animal Farm ie. BOXER the carthorse – a loyal supporter of the “Leaders”, and listens to everything the self-appointed ruler of the farm says and assumes, sometimes with doubt, that everything they tells the farm animals is true, hence “They are always right.” Echoes of the PIONEER Generation & some of the MERDEKA Cohorts!
    What I say – true or not?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm

    This overarching govt web of control must be scaled down to the basics:
    1. get out of (GLC) business; &
    2. no more (SWF) investments;
    3. reduce their footprint over the economy, etc. (ie. Dismantled crony capitalist economy, cut bureaucratic redtape, lower cost of living, etc)

    The Govt’s job isn’t to (over)regulate the S’pore Economy. More regulation ultimately leads to economic stagnancy & commercial failures.

    And all Govts are inherently unproductive, they’re not shrewd businessmen nor are they entrepreneurs, asset traders (Private sector’s job). A govt’s basic roles were:
    * redistribution of tax monies (fairer equality & income redistribution); &
    * managed public goods like healthcare, education & public transportation to be affordable, efficient & available to the electorate.

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  • Land of Ostrich:

    opposition dude:
    Nothing is perfect in life. The system that should be adopted is one where the government of the day does things for the people and not do the opposite of it.

    No sense having a democratic or communist government if all they do is look after their own interests and not the people.

    I share similar thoughts.

    Is a country a democracy or dictatorship?
    The answer lies with how the World perceives it to be and not in name or what a country claims the system it is.

    Why? Simple example is The DEMOCRATIC republic of North Korea. It’s a dictatorship.

    There is another country claiming to be democracy but it’s a one-party-dominant system Ruled by Laws created by the law makers of the one party. It’s effectively a dictatorship . This country I cannot name it out of fear.

    So, I support TKL that Swiss model suits us somewhat. On the most important decisions, a referendum is advisable for fairness and respect of diversity of views of humans.

    To get there, we need to address the Lack of Transparency , Accountability and Independence in appointing people to top positions.

    Climate of Fear has to be fixed.

    People Power is necessary because it’s the zpeople that choose the leader . And that’s why democracy required People Power to work and be valid. But Democracy can be Hacked as follows:

    1. A country declares itself a democracy because it wants to trade with the west.

    But it’s leader is reluctant. Deep down , he is a dictator. But he is a master of laws. He designed a way to hack democracy.

    2. He use Laws to Rule the People. To make people power weak or zero.
    Democracy = People Power x Govt.
    Democracy = 0 x Govt.
    Democracy = 0.
    So, he says there is democracy. It is Zero.

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Harder Truths:
    TKL

    You need to be fair to the readers – if you want to discuss such weighty matters that is fine – but do the subject justice.

    Please respect the people here. They are giving up their time to look at what you wrote. Don’t shortchange them with sweeping claims and conclusions and above all making it a difficult post to read through.

    Bro what better way for an IDIOT to seek attention when forums and invitation are a scarcity to hear his silly talks and antics???

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  • Ostrich Defence Platoon:

    what a pea brained idea:
    goh cock tong BSed 70% sheep swee swee with swiss cost of living.

    so much so anything with swiss must be viewed with suspicion.

    why not just topple pap and let New Government by a better group of Singaporeans decide what type of government it is to be.

    we are certain Ms Sylvia Lim Mr Lim Tean Dr Tan CB Mr KJeyaretnam Mr Roy Ngerng Mr Leon Perara Mr Gilbert Goh and such worthy men and women of Singapore can put forward a better system than current clown pap nepotistic cronyistic corrupt parleementary system.

    Of course they can do a similar job if not better job than MIW.

    The reason is simple. The system is run by civil servants. If civil servants don’t support the new govt they can be investigated for not doing their job, for sabotaging the country’s interest.

    So, it will be business as usual.

    Another reason is the MIW are using extreme advantage to compete with powerless, resource lacking Alternative parties. The MIW using state resources paid for using our tax money like gst etc .

    An example of using extreme advantage is use of state channels like the Mandarin channels to spread messages through the programs or tv serials. You can see many programs sponsored by ministries.

    Mark Lee even has a YouTube channel not sure sponsored by who using who’s money to pay Mark Lee. His YouTube videos all pro garment.

    This is extreme advantage.
    Without these extreme advantages, they will lose to even Danny Ng.

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  • Sergeant Major Ostrich:

    Went to Japan:
    I think TKL is getting old and senile. CCP democractic? Since when?

    The CCP central committee is designed only a selected few who were the pioneer’s of the party and there after their descendants or closed relatives. And they agreed to take turn to be President, limiting to 2 terms. This has changed when President Xi came on board, he declared himself the Emperor with no term limit and removed the 9 men central committee and installed his own close knitted gang. In the term limit voting, every one was warned what to vote or face the consequence after the voting. In the end, all voted yes and 2 abstained; no one dared to vote against it.

    TKL, you call this democractic?

    I think Singapore system is the same, the leader strongly advised the committee what to do and committee member “were encouraged” to do what they were told to do. Otherwise, you wont see them next term.

    You pointed it out well!
    I also feel that TKL has on several occasions Mistaken Democracy as Selection.

    He seems to get Confused that CCP is democratic simply because a few people selected the leader.

    Democracy is Election of leader by everyone.

    TKL appears to be MisGuided.

    If Election is same as Selection by a small group of people vis a vis entire population then we No Longer Need Elections.

    We can just have a One Party system that selects within the party the next pm and no way to overthrow a bad govt in future.

    I hope TKL admit this mistake and mistake . Else he may do more harm to readers in future spreading falsehoods or misinformation.

    TCB could have won the PE if not for his ego to participate .

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  • oxygen:

    @ Mr. Tan Kin Lian

    I COUNT MY BLESSING TODAY that you was not elected President ( I am sure you are proudly qualified to contest) and pray that you WILL NOT CONTEST the next GE in any candidature.

    Why?

    I am totally befuddled as to whether you have just escaped from IMH or plainly ignorant trapped in a cave-men mentality.

    Tan Kin Lian :The US political system is dysfunctional. They have a president that acts in an erratic manner and they are unable to control his excesses. The three pillars of power – legislature, executive, judiciary, takes conflicting positions on many issues.

    How can any democracy be “dysfunctional” when and because of “The three pillars of power – legislature, executive, judiciary, takes conflicting positions on many issues.”??

    History in primary school taught me that Hitler’s genocidal holocaust is crime. SO DO THE JUDICIARY ACQUIESCIENCE OR STRONGLY ENDORSED THAT? And the legislature also legalised that through parliamentary process in full agreement of the executive (Hitler)?

    Do you know what happens when the Executive rule the judiciary and legislation? Hitler and DT will be “law” and judiciary, police and even public servants will be ENFORCERS and ABOVE THE LAW paid for with taxpayer funding.

    In Australia and US at least, civil servants ARE SERVANTS of the law, they are NOT masters (above the law) and they are accountable to the law for corruption, crime, murder or any other criminal conduct same as peasants.

    AND YOU WANT THAT REVERSED?

    I THINK YOU SHOULD RETURN BACK TO YOUR CAVE and party on there, and NOT WRITE ANY MORE NONSENSE ON THE SUBJECT OF POLITICS AND GOVERNANCE.

    WHY?

    It reveals TOO MUCH, FAR TOO MUCH about your mental capacity, knowledge about the real world and capacity to come to grip with relating to society – never mind your cinderella misadventure past of seeking presidential office.

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  • Ostrich First Class:

    TKL misplaced what is Most Important in all Political models.

    No matter how good a political model , it is useless if it’s not Transparent, Accountable and independent.

    Under Najib’s reign, the GDP of Malaysia also seems healthy. Everything looks OK.

    In reality , Malaysia is near bankrupt due to his failures.

    Singaporeans do not know the health of our reserves and all basing on Believing .

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  • oxygen:

    @ PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20:

    YOUR OBSERVATIONS AND CONCLUSION below is retard.

    PAP.GUARANTEE.WIN.GE2019/20: Yes TKL. I agreed with you. UK and US democracy are flaws.

    Look at Hong Kong now trying out UK democracy and it result in chaos.

    And the useless HONG KONG Police Force cannot even handle a small protest.

    Hong Kong is in chaos now because of infiltration by CIA and other western powers.

    And a little sly cunning of mischief. You ignored TKL said this

    Tan Kin Lian : I also like the communist party system. Most people think that it is not democratic, but they may not realize that their leaders, at various levels of the party, are elected democratically within the party. Furthermore, the party members are politically aware and can make better decisions, compared to an open democracy where many of the voters are not politically aware

    If U agree with TKL on his liking for communist party system, YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN WHY THE WHOLE WORLD – ALL COMMUNIST REGIME FAILED of economic salvation of its populace.

    China left HK open because it is WINDOW TO THE WORLD – without HK, China has no link to outside world before Deng opening up of one country two system.

    You also can’t explain that TKL has not worked or lived in China for any extended period to know the real China. He was fantasy dreaming probably. I loitered in China for years to know what foreigners inside China often told me – CHINA IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS ON THE SURFACE.

    WITHOUT TRANSPARENCY, THERE IS CORRUPTION EVERYWHERE IN CHINA.

    LEE-jiapore is without transparency too, who says no corruption in concealed murky political economy??

    I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU GO BACK TO BOHLEHLAND AND CONTINUE YOUR RUBBER – TAPPING. Maybe, and maybe only, like you groaned often in TRE, one day 1 rinngit could become 3 Sing$ in your fantasyland dreaming.

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  • AhTan:

    It is not difficult to figure out how Sin works. In a few decades, the father of Sin, responsible for its growth, had laid the main foundations for it economic success. Suffice to say, the heart of Sin, where your “treasures” are, is in the “palm of buddha”, who paid himself and his ministers to guard, to do as they please or deem fit.

    Not happy and smelled very fishy to you? You can’t do anything about it because the people chose the econony over their conscience. Hence, “right and wrong” is decided by one of the hireling minister of the king or strongman who guard the heart of the nation like a “predatory hawk”. The heart of this nation is basically the “heart of silver” or betrayer.

    Hence, the next essential element in safeguarding the “heart of silver” is the “iron fist” of the strongman – the rule of His laws.

    Smell very fishy, and hypocritical, to you again?

    There is again nothing you can do about it because the laws have been designed to guard and facilitate the ” heart of silver ” or your mighty economy.

    Hence the father of Sin told the HKies( watch one of his speeches in HK) to mind the “business” ONLY and forget about challenging the “red dragon” in which he had a hand in sowing the seed of destruction, and rejected by people, the younger generation with a conscience( they smell a weasel or rat in the mainland).

    Subsequently, the generational leaders built on the foundation of Sin laid by the father of Sin.

    If you think his Kingdom is solid as a rock, look at China and HK – same political identity. They will have to shoot and kill, spill blood on the ground, to hold on to power.

    Are they prosperous? Your minister’s are telling half the stories. Millions have been lifted out of poverty to indebtedness and a dead conscience. Many already reported widespread waste and lawlessness and inequalities in China on their home ground and as as tyrannical trading partner who does not abide by international laws when it suits not their agenda is causing financial tsunami across the globe.

    This seed of destruction, whose heart is silver, has no integrity nor future can be secure under its rule – supported and lauded by the people of Sin.

    But hey, your call. If you play in the “House of Sin” by lying to yourself, then be prepared to get burnt or whitewashed(live in your lies).

    The hands that spill blood on the ground are inviting judgment on the land.

    Your call. What do I know. Ask your wise man/scholars/reigious leaders in the land to save you, like George of the jungle and his “Buddha ‘s palm”.

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  • Land of Ostriches:

    The Best Democracy model is useless if it Lacks Transparency, Accountability and Independence.

    So let’s not get too obsessed with political model.

    One guy tried to paint a picture that democracy is bad and one party rule is good by using HK protest havoc as poster boy.

    But it’s not democracy that is wrong but the protesters.

    If we do not allow citizens to do anything when they are disagreeing with policies, that IS NOT GOOD EITHER.

    SO, the right thing to say is how to find peaceful recourse for citizens against the govt.

    A dictatorship will not allow protests . This does not mean it’s better. It’s worse! You have no say at all. The govt can be corrupt and you have no say.

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