Is a PSP-SDP coalition the best way forward?

As the general election is rumoured to be round the corner and many have clamoured for a loose coalition to be formed after the launch of Dr Tan Cheng Bock’s Progress Singapore Party, there are various opinions offered as to the format of this opposition alliance:-

1. Coalition with all opposition parties

Some have offered the possible coalition of PSP with all opposition parties so that the alliance can be seen as one huge body instead of the usual solo small party contesting individually on their own against the incumbent.

The coalition idea was mooted earlier this year by the Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) who brought together 7 other opposition parties with the hope of forming a loose coalition.

The desire to form a coalition is not new as in 2001, the Singapore Democratic Alliance (SDA) was formed with four opposition parties headed by Mr Chiam See Tong.  The opposition alliance has since collapsed under disagreement and conflict.

However, the formation of one huge loose opposition alliance with all parties understandably will bring forth much inherent challenges such as character differences of individual party chief plus the added difficulty in trying to align all the parties’ agenda under one-umbrella uniform goal.

Even though the opposition may look united if all the parties are to contest under one huge coalition headed by PSP, it may be technically tough to bring all the parties to embrace a similiar goal and vision.

Thus, contesting the next election with the possible coalition of all opposition parties may not be plausible and even discouraged as eventually potential conflict and friction internally could eventually bring down the alliance before it could even start to contest it’s first election.

The past history of the failure of SDA should alert Dr Tan to it’s potential pitfalls and dangers.

2. No coalition and PSP contests alone

This no-coalition scenario increasingly looks a possibility as we never hear much of it from the party launch last week. It is as if the alliance formation is not on the cards anymore but knowing Dr Tan who is both politically shrewd and astute, one can only hope that he is keeping  everything under wraps.

But will PSP decide to contest alone and try to win some seats first before even venturing out to form potential alliance with other parties?

The fact that it is a new party without any seats yet gives people the feel that it is still pre-matured and untested. It will be a different matter if PSP has already won some Parliamentary seats after election and this will allow the party to form alliance with other smaller parties credibly.

However, the much-feared weapon of Dr Tan is his ability to create a opposition bloc of smaller parties and it will be a massive disappointment to many opposition supporters if PSP will to contest the next general election alone.

3. Coalition with WP alone

There are also much talk about PSP approaching WP to form a alliance alone which is the biggest opposition party now and also the only one with elected MPs in it’s fold.

This makes sense as the possibility of a alliance with WP will likely send shivers down PAP’s spine as you are looking at two big opposition giants joining forces.

But looking at WP’s past records, the chances of them wanting to team up with another opposition party looks remote and even the previous WP party chief Low Thian Kiang has spoken out verbally against any such coalition talk.

“All political parties have different directions and ideals, they won’t necessarily have the same views and approaches to policies. On the issue of what kind of opposition party is most beneficial for Singapore, the views are also divided. Therefore, given Singapore’s current political climate, to want all the opposition parties to form a unified force is an impossible goal.”

He explained that “the fear is that eventually, not only will they be unable to advance together, but they will splinter and become fragmented.”

“This kind of outcome will only make the people again lose faith in the opposition and become an impediment in Singapore’s democratic progress,” Mr Low said.

Thus, it seems certain that WP will reject any alliance discussion with PSP given the tough stance of the giant opposition on forming any collaboration with other opposition parties.

Moreover, it has done well on it’s own merit and is probably the only party that managed to lose many contested seats by less than 10% of total votes counted. Some seats were lost by less than five percentage of total votes counted.

It is thus the most supported opposition party in Singapore but it has somewhat lost steam of late perhaps due to the long-drawn town council court case and the recent change-over of leadership.

4. Coalition with a few other opposition parties notably SDP

Despite all the negativity surrounding the formation of a opposition alliance, there is still hope if PSP could seek out a few other parties for allegiance.

For example, SDP has being sincere in wanting to form a alliance with other parties all along and even hosted an event for seven opposition parties early this year. The possibility of a SDP-PSP alliance is both mouth-watering and positive and hopefully this can attract more people to join the opposition front.

Thus, it may be more feasible if the alliance settles for two or three parties first and not include all so that it is easier to operate  under one common umbrella though naturally this will anger those parties that are excluded.

SDP has grown into the second largest opposition party and has won over much support from many Singaporeans and it will be great news if they can team up with PSP first to build up an alliance and contest the forthcoming election together.

Smaller parties headed by one strong man will definitely want to join such a alliance as they know that they can’t make much head-way going it alone.

It is difficult to foresee how an alliance can flourish if it is an umbrella of 7 to 8 smaller parties each wanting to forge ahead riding on the rising tide of Dr Tan alone.

Fighting it all along by itself is also tough as PSP will then be seen as just another opposition party and at best it can function as a co-driver to the incumbent without the opportunity of ever  able to take over the government one day because of it’s size.

The possibility of a SDP-PSP alliance first looks feasible at least for this coming election and hopefully this alone will be enough to attract other parties to join in selectively later on.

 

Gilbert Goh

 

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53 Responses to “Is a PSP-SDP coalition the best way forward?”

  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    As I see it…there is NO BETTER time than NOW for the PAP to be TOPPLED or DENIED a 2thirds Majaroity…

    SDP & PSP has what I believe mutual respect for each others Platform a solution to Agree to disagree is a walk in the Park as both Party Leaders are Old Hands and NOT young wannabees with an AGENDA…

    Should Workers Party decide to throw in their Hat why NOT???

    As for Reform Economist Ken & Legal Eagle Tien Lien joining as added fuel…it can be a Formidable Coalition…

    For the sake of Nation and People…Go for it I am sure the TRUE PATRIOTS are longing to see A New Dawn after a Period of Evil and Incompetence…

    As I suggested before a Coalition name Harapan Fajar (Dawn of HOPE) would be an appropriate name…

    Hormat dan Majulah Singapura!!! matilah Singapore INC

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  • WP is not accused by the former owner of Temasek Review as being PAP’s Team B for nothing. WP has been an arrogant and self-centered party after the late JBJ and as far as I know, has not cooperated with or given face to any other oppo party besides PAP.

    My take is to forget about WP and do a SDP-PSP and the rest of the smaller parties will fall inline. This would avoid a messy horse trade when GE is announced.

    IMO, WP is going to lose Aljunied this time round (considering the close shave) it had during last GE and if they continue to ignore other oppo parties and refused to work together, it will soon land itself in the black hole and disappear from the political scene.

    As far as I can see, WP’s performance in Parliament has been pathetic, asking all the non-important questions and even if a relevant question was asked and aswered with BS, they have refused to push for clarification and answers.

    Again, like the former owner of Temasek Review said, WP is PAP’s Team B and is there only for wayang. Their performance so far leaves nothing to be remembered or desired.

    My 2 cents (I stand corrected).

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    TRE Techie:
    WP is not called by the former owner of Temasek Review as PAP Team B for nothing. WP has been an arrogant and self-centered party after JBJ and as far as I know, has not cooperated with or give face to any other oppo party besides PAP.

    My take is to forget about WP and do a SDP-PSP and the rest of the smaller parties will fall inline. This would avoid having to horse trade when GE is announced.

    IMO, WP is going to lose Aljunied this time round (considering the close shave) it had during last GE and if they continue to ignore other oppo parties and refused to work together, it will soon land itself in the black hole and disappear from the political scene.

    As far as I can see, WP’s performance in Parliament has been pathetic, asking all the non-important questions and even if a relevant question was asked and aswered with BS, they have refused to push for clarification and answers.

    Again, like the former owner of Temasek Review said, WP is PAP’s Team B and is there only for wayang. Their performance so far leaves nothing to be remembered or desired.

    My 2 cents (I stand corrected).

    I tend to AGREE… that was when LTK was Sec-Gen…Low got carried away and realise that when he was challenged for the Sec-Gen post by stepping down and fading into the woodwork of WP… the new leaders of WP may have a different view from Low’s…Pritam & Sylvia is a more formidable team as both are Legal Eagles with the same wavelength…Hopefully, I am right for the sake of The Republic of Singapore and The Patriots

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  • opposition dude:

    In theory if the 3 biggest opposition parties could form a coalition then goondu Loong would be shitting in his pants. But sadly it’s only theory so it’s all just talk and no action.

    At least SDP made the effort to try and unite the opposition but alas, it was all in vain. If they do unite with PSP it would get PAP’s attention if it was to win a few seats.

    Since WP wants to be alone then let them be lah. If they should lose Aljunied then let Pritam settle this with his party members lah. I just hope some other opposition party can win a GRC or two in the next GE.

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  • Python 5:

    Let WP managed on their own if they wished so. Do not go out to discredit them. They have shown some form of cooperation when they abstain from contesting the Bt Batok By-election. voters appreciate that.

    whether each opposition party wants to be aligned closely to others or not, its up to them.

    just avoid 3 corner fights.

    cooperate, not conflict, not competition.

    My focus: AMK GRC.

    I think WP is taking a wait and see approach if PSP is going to AMK, that’s why they didn’t come up to “chope” all their constituencies yet, unlike SDP.

    There has to be some sense of back stage agreement and arrangement between PSP and WP…both are well-resourced parties to go fight in AMK.

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  • Careful Win the Race:

    Coalition with WP alone – You mean asking WP to bring a bomb home and hand the bomb remote to the MIW? In Politics, never take things lightly.

    If WP will to coalition with PSP [a party that has not even proven itself], then I suspect WP position had been compromised and I see that as either a foolhardy move or a deliberate attack on PV Lim Tean Party or both.

    If TRE techie is such good in Politics, then he can jolly well form another party to join with PSP and prove their worth. I say he will more than likely be another of the “Sam Hui” story I told before. For you know, he may lose his deposit like TKL. When you are not there, don’t even speak like you are already there.

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  • never voted pap, never will:

    Python 5:
    Let WP managed on their own if they wished so. Do not go out to discredit them. They have shown some form of cooperation when they abstain from contesting the Bt Batok By-election. voters appreciate that.

    whether each opposition party wants to be aligned closely to others or not, its up to them.

    just avoid 3 corner fights.

    cooperate, not conflict, not competition.

    My focus: AMK GRC.

    I think WP is taking a wait and see approach if PSP is going to AMK, that’s why they didn’t come up to “chope” all their constituencies yet, unlike SDP.

    There has to be some sense of back stage agreement and arrangement between PSP and WP…both are well-resourced parties to go fight in AMK.

    We live in Aljunied. We agree WP is a ffffing disappointment.

    Yet we only vote OPPO. Even if WP is pap team B, as long as WP is not named pap team B on ballot paper, WP gets our votes.

    What can we do? Don’t vote pap and let george yeo kind of pap Lj or ong ye kung type of pap Lj win? ffff. No way. Bad as WP is as an OPPOSITION team player, as long as WP against pap, our votes go to WP.

    We have no other choice. No prawns so fish also can do lah, for the time being, unless PSP SDP and such stand against pap WP in Aljunied.

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  • Dont be delusional:

    ‘TRE Techie’, I thought he is some wise, level headed and mature individual. Alas…it is not the case. No difference like those from the opposition fifth column.

    Now I am suspicious whenever there are sudden deluge of anonymous anti WP responses, they are his creation? He can see and anticipate what we cannot see right and then plan his or TRE’s attack on the WP? Who will benefit from it? If he thinks SDP will benefit from it, then he is delusional. PAP will the one that benefit of course!

    Alliance? If KJ do not like or cannot get along with most of the people in the opposition camps, how is that going to work out to form an alliance with the man?

    GMS had been bad mouthing WP for the last 10 years or so, why would people form an alliance with him or his party? He is quite toxic in his attacks and at times personal albeit in a sly manner.

    The loner Desmond-something (cannot even remember his full name..like dat how?) who contested in the Pasir Ris and lost and then nothing heard from ever since. Does he matter?

    NSP? What happen to them? No sound permanently after last the last general election. Alliance with them? Who are the people in the party? and this is what matters when people cast their vote.

    Chee Soon Juan is not a one man show in the SDP. But what sort of people are inside SDP beside the good and respectable doctor?. Are the rest good mature level headed people, not those who bang table for the sake of banging tables. Is Chee guilty of hogging the limelight in a unhealthy manner? SDP only 2 names..him and the doctor. Chee should thank me if he read this – Shine more light on your other people to showcase their talent lah! For some people, once they see Chee’s name…sorry not my cup of tea, play safe vote PAP! But they might vote or give some chances to SDP if they see ‘inside also got’ other talents as well. Hardcore Chee supporters will not see beyond what I wrote.

    If WP do not want to be in any alliance, so be it. If they communicate to avoid 3 corner fights that will be good enough already. This is just as good as an alliance!!! Why need to form alliance when they mostly see rampant fifth columns army from the opposition camps attacking them, to the benefit of the PAP. Even a few opposition leaders they take pot shots at the WP and now people are DEMANDING that they join the alliance.

    Read carefully…Bock had said there will be no alliance. It is not happening. Chee is saying what he is saying now to save some face.

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  • WP supporters unquestioning:

    Why are Singaporeans so unquestioning?
    We must ask what should be asked.
    Why do wp supporters never question wp why it is sabotaging the Alternative Movement by not forming coalition?

    Coalition is better than standalone.

    I suspect WP is fake.

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  • Harder Truths:

    It is not that we do not appreciate you lot. It is not about how smart you are.

    It is just you make it hard for people to believe you all can work to solve problems as a team if you are elected. You guys can’t even go out for coffee together.

    if you don’t realise this problem NOW – there will be no point having another election.

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  • @Careful Win the Race

    It is only my opinion on the topic discussed. You are free to disagree with me and form opinion of your own. No issue here.

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  • Thumb down for techie:

    I looked at the previous photo of how Gilbert Goh shook the hands of TCB, I feel like I ought to award Gilbert a Golden Tripod of the Year Award for his welcome support to TCB, really. Why I say that;

    One: PSP is a new and unproven Party, nothing yet to show, nothing yet to proof, except the name TCB.

    Two: Regardless how people like TRE Techie want to slam WP despite what they have done [GST 9% ballon, education Grand to foreigner, against the PORMA bill, against 30% water hikes etc], PSP is still a new and unproven Party.

    Three: You want to blame WP, then blame yourselves for not putting in sufficient strength in parliament. What do you expect out of such small percentage. Be realistic. That’s the reason why I totally disagree with TRE Techie for bad mouthing the only experienced Opposition in Parliament. Even though he claimed is his personal opinion, but still is without basis. Yes, performance could be better, but I ask you not to forget the fixing works that they have to undergo. Setting up everything new when the heavy weight is pressing on TOP is NOT EASY, but they have persevered. Sylvia Lim could have easily sat with the PAP and easy life.

    Four: If TCB is that great, then he would be able to, by now muscle in alot of credible people in his wing, including having a way to rope in WP, PV etc…by their sheer abilities and strength. Judging from the response after their launch…. no firework. What do you expect WP to “GAVE FACE” in Politics? If they need to “Give Face”, then I say they are a lousy party and care-less for those who had voted for them.

    Five: If WP is that BAD and can’t even safeguard aljunied, why waste the effort to look up for them and claim that they see you no up or uncooperative?? Let the Pros do their work.

    So, if you have the same techie to slam the only Opposition Party you are having now, then I say you 30% deserve another 100 years of PAP Rule. You know not what you are doing!

    Nevertheless, Vote Wisely, all the best.

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  • Are you on the side of Right?:

    “You will know (the good from the bad) when you are calm, at peace. Passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack… The fear of loss is a path to the Dark Side… A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away… to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh.. Excitement. Heh.. A Jedi craves not these things.”

    - Jedi Master Yoda

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  • Python 5:

    never voted pap, never will: We live in Aljunied. We agree WP is a ffffing disappointment.

    I stay under Jurong GRC.

    give them some credit…they attacked LHL over the Oxley house.
    and its only 8 of them vs 80+ PAP headcounts.

    its not like 45 WP vs 50 PAP. and how do we know many attacks by WP are not broadcasted on TV?…leading to us thinking WP is doing its work.

    I’d say this thing about calling WP a PAP team B is a ploy to degrade WP by the PAP voters.

    don’t fall in this trap.

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  • Python 5:

    agree with this.
    no need to run under a common banner.
    just run in the same correct direction!!!

    Dont be delusional: If WP do not want to be in any alliance, so be it. If they communicate to avoid 3 corner fights that will be good enough already. This is just as good as an alliance!!! Why need to form alliance when they mostly see rampant fifth columns army from the opposition camps attacking them, to the benefit of the PAP. Even a few opposition leaders they take pot shots at the WP and now people are DEMANDING that they join the alliance.

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  • Dafts Will Be Dafts:

    There is no best way if dumbos refused to grow spine and balls to vote right.

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  • Qing dynasty peasants:

    When Qing dynasty was dying, it became more corrupt. because it needed more S$m to buy loyalty. where does Qing dynasty get is S$m? from Qing dynasty peasant CPF.

    During that time, many of the righteous Qing folks tried to rebel against Qing dynasty. of course, Qing mandarins with their S$m at stake, witch hunted. Qing mandarins created squads to destroy the righteous Qing folks who were revolting. Qing dynasty propaganda squad no end saying Qing peasants won’t revolt one since Qing peasants kiasi kiasu.

    But as all things human, there is a tipping point. No end raising GST is like squeezing blood out of stone, since GST taxes the jobless Qing peasants hardest. Moral of the story? Squeeze Qing peasants hard enough they revolt.

    Qing dynasty is no more. As pap is even worse than Qing dowager and Qing mandarins, pap is no more is a matter of timing. History repeats itself.

    Don’t let pap IBs fool anyone by saying OPPO alliance cannot. When Dr Mahatir PH started, umno IBs all say tidak boleh. But GE14 Dr Mahatir won and started to look into najib and najib wife hanky panky.

    What do we want? We want new government to look into pinky clown and pinky clown wife hanky panky, if any. After all, Singapore is not lee dynasty. It is democratic Republic of Singapore which is founded on justice equality for all whatever race and not the pap INDIAN president is malay president BS.

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  • Dafts Will Be Dafts:

    Harder Truths:
    It is not that we do not appreciate you lot. It is not about how smart you are.

    It is just you make it hard for people to believe you all can work to solve problems as a team if you are elected. You guys can’t even go out for coffee together.

    if you don’t realise this problem NOW – there will be no point having another election.

    Again, it’s not about oppositions but rather for the dumbasses to decide if the Pigs are still fit to run this country.

    This dictatorship has all the power and resources, yet created all the issues singlehandedly, despite able to drink coffee and share the loot together.

    The question is not whether if opposition can govern, which they certainly can, but rather if the Pigs are still fit to stay.

    Remember, vote to keep the status quo, sinkies will face more of the same.

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  • WP is FAKE !:

    TRE Techie:
    WP is not accused by the former owner of Temasek Review as being PAP’s Team B for nothing. WP has been an arrogant and self-centered party after the late JBJ and as far as I know, has not cooperated with or given face to any other oppo party besides PAP.

    My take is to forget about WP and do a SDP-PSP and the rest of the smaller parties will fall inline. This would avoid a messy horse trade when GE is announced.

    IMO, WP is going to lose Aljunied this time round (considering the close shave) it had during last GE and if they continue to ignore other oppo parties and refused to work together, it will soon land itself in the black hole and disappear from the political scene.

    As far as I can see, WP’s performance in Parliament has been pathetic, asking all the non-important questions and even if a relevant question was asked and aswered with BS, they have refused to push for clarification and answers.

    Again, like the former owner of Temasek Review said, WP is PAP’s Team B and is there only for wayang. Their performance so far leaves nothing to be remembered or desired.

    My 2 cents (I stand corrected).

    These types of wp supporters are blind supporters. As blind as the miw supporters

    They cannot think and reason logically.

    WP is too obviously A FAKE OPPOSITION PARTY!

    WP never spoke like TCB. Its very clear that WP rarely behaved or spoke like a real opposition party. They seem to work every five years during GE. That is when they talk like a man. Other than that, they are just as usesless as LTK.

    IF A DOG VS WP, I VOTE THE DOG!

    WP voters wake up! You cannot prove WP is a real opposition party. Do not base on Believing!

    WP close shop and all its fakies get jailed!!

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  • Coalition betterthan WP:

    Dont be delusional:
    ‘TRE Techie’, I thought he is some wise, level headed and mature individual. Alas…it is not the case. No difference like those from the opposition fifth column.

    Now I am suspicious whenever there are sudden deluge of anonymous anti WP responses, they are his creation? He can see and anticipate what we cannot see right and then plan his or TRE’s attack on the WP? Who will benefit from it? If he thinks SDP will benefit from it, then he is delusional. PAP will the one that benefit of course!

    Alliance? If KJ do not like or cannot get along with most of the people in the opposition camps, how is that going to work out to form an alliance with the man?

    GMS had been bad mouthing WP for the last 10 years or so, why would people form an alliance with him or his party? He is quite toxic in his attacks and at times personal albeit in a sly manner.

    The loner Desmond-something (cannot even remember his full name..like dat how?) who contested in the Pasir Ris and lost and then nothing heard from ever since. Does he matter?

    NSP? What happen to them? No sound permanently after last the last general election. Alliance with them? Who are the people in the party? and this is what matters when people cast their vote.

    Chee Soon Juan is not a one man show in the SDP. But what sort of people are inside SDP beside the good and respectable doctor?. Are the rest good mature level headed people, not those who bang table for the sake of banging tables. Is Chee guilty of hogging the limelight in a unhealthy manner? SDP only 2 names..him and the doctor. Chee should thank me if he read this – Shine more light on your other people to showcase their talent lah! For some people, once they see Chee’s name…sorry not my cup of tea, play safe vote PAP! But they might vote or give some chances to SDP if they see ‘inside also got’ other talents as well. Hardcore Chee supporters will not see beyond what I wrote.

    If WP do not want to be in any alliance, so be it. If they communicate to avoid 3 corner fights that will be good enough already. This is just as good as an alliance!!!。。。

    Just to put a point across you have to talk so much?

    Simply put, WP is a proven Useless Failure and trait** to the opposition movement and population.

    WP itself admitted it ALONE cannot form the govt.

    Yet, WP insist to go alone . More of the same. UNDER WHO’S INSTRUCTIONS?

    An idiot knows that WP alone will lead us NOWHERE and COALITION is the better Option.

    WP supporters must not be so biased and should think logically that there is a real chance LTK is a trait**.

    The onus is on WP to prove its real…

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  • roy:

    Frenz.

    Let’s wait. I am sure the WP has something great up their sleeves. Why was the WP team at TCB’s gathering? I believe this as subtle support for the Opposition. Personally, I feel that they are still biding for some time to see how the GRCs and SMCs are drawn before even making a statement. My thought will be that the 3 formidable opponents will do something great. Be patient as the election dates are not known yet… A strong saying ” You would not let a thief knows where your treasure is hidden” Would you?

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  • Realistically:

    @ patriot of TUMASIK:
    August 16, 2019 at 5:18 pm

    “Pritam & Sylvia is a more formidable team as both are Legal Eagles with the same wavelength”

    Dun tok cok about the Pritam & Sylvia being “legal eagles”. With them being sued by the AHTC & having to spend a million $ & counting to engage Mr Rajah to defend them, including Low TK etc, when there are even more lawyers – not “legal eagles” in the true sense of the term – like Chen Show Mao, Robert Tan & the female lawyer from Cambridge U & probably others, the so called “legal eagles” can’t even face off with Davinder Singh, unlike Lim Tean facing off Davinder for Leong Sze Hian.

    By the way, dun use the moniker with “patriot” because, the wayang party has betrayed sinkies. with their failure to discharge their duties & responsibilities as opposition MPs. The wayang party’s MPs only serve the interests of the PAPies, as was most obvious when Sylvia Lim defended the PAPies during the International Bar Association meeting in Singapore in 2007.

    @ Dont be delusional:
    August 16, 2019 at 8:18 pm (Quote)

    U R obviously another of those self-serving wayang party IB.

    I have frequently called out the wayang party MPs as failing to live up to their duties and responsibilities as opposition MPs. Where have u been to rebut, debunk or demolish me?

    Maybe u can start doing so from my comments in this thread:

    http://www.tremeritus.net/2019/08/08/parliamentary-%e2%80%98reply%e2%80%99-by-half-past-six-minister-an-insult-to-wp-mp-png/

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  • Realistically:

    @ Python 5:
    August 16, 2019 at 6:28 pm (Quote)

    “Let WP managed on their own if they wished so. Do not go out to discredit them. They have shown some form of cooperation when they abstain from contesting the Bt Batok By-election. voters appreciate that.”

    If the wayang party had contested Bukit Batok SMC by-election, it won’t have affected the outcome that PAP had won.

    The wayang party is self-serving; no wayang IB has rebutted this.

    @ never voted pap, never will:
    August 16, 2019 at 7:21 pm (Quote)

    “Yet we only vote OPPO. Even if WP is pap team B, as long as WP is not named pap team B on ballot paper, WP gets our votes.”

    That is why I think it would be in the national interest that the SDP contest Aljunied GRC, Pasir Ris SMC & even Bedok/Tampines.

    “What can we do? Don’t vote pap and let george yeo kind of pap Lj or ong ye kung type of pap Lj win? ffff. No way. Bad as WP is as an OPPOSITION team player, as long as WP against pap, our votes go to WP.”

    That’s where U & most of the Aljunied/Bedok residents are wrong……..the wayang party to me serves the interest of the PAPies, as evidenced by Sylvia Lim supporting the whites during the IBA meeting in Singapore in 2007.

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  • Lisa James Lee Jr:

    Dont be delusional:
    ‘TRE Techie’, I thought he is some wise, level headed and mature individual. Alas…it is not the case. No difference like those from the opposition fifth column.

    Now I am suspicious whenever there are sudden deluge of anonymous anti WP responses, they are his creation? He can see and anticipate what we cannot see right and then plan his or TRE’s attack on the WP? Who will benefit from it? If he thinks SDP will benefit from it, then he is delusional. PAP will the one that benefit of cou…..

    If WP do not want to be in any alliance, so be it. If they communicate to avoid 3 corner fights that will be good enough already. This is just as good as an alliance!!! Why need to form alliance when they mostly see rampant fifth columns army from the opposition camps attacking them, to the benefit of the PAP. Even a few opposition leaders they take pot shots at the WP and now people are DEMANDING that they join the alliance.

    Read carefully…Bock had said there will be no alliance. It is not happening. Chee is saying what he is saying now to save some face.

    You have said Nothing but used Character assassinating words to describe opposition leaders , very similar to how the White Ghosts brigade are doing.

    You are not WP, but speak up as if you are ? Wtf ! No credibility.

    If you are part of wp and what you spewed represents wp , then this is another evidence to is fake.

    Why talk about NSP or Desmond and avoid the question?

    Why is wp sabotaging the Coalition movement when wp admitted it is unable to form the govt.?

    Remember, the Coalition need not include Demons or NSP. It’s sufficient to have PSP, PV, SDP.

    SO, WHY WP not forming coalition?

    Why WP not even forming Coalition with PSP?

    WP did not do so since three GE ago. On Purpose ! The results speak for themselves. Without Coalition WP is like shit.

    And TRE Techie is also a voter and human with his own views. He has the right to express his opinions and we should appreciate that he did so.

    You are no body to dictate who can express opinions. The Onus is not in your Anus. The Onus is on you to prove why WP is not a Fake Opposition party planted by the enemy.

    TC can have so serious accounting issue knowing how important it is to account for the funds and it’s easily a way they be targeted and yet they create a mess?

    I think this TC accounting mess is just a big WAYANG to slow down the advancement of Opposition movement.

    LTK must go. He will not be remembered except for his singrish spoken like a farmer. A disgusting character whom I voted in the last 3 GE.

    Now, if a lump of puppy poo vs wp, I vote for…

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  • oxygen:

    PLEASE DO NOT MALIGN WP, they too are bullied and stonewalled both inside and outside the house of the most expensive but mostly useless decorations.

    They tried their best despite the handicap of very limited number and constraints of resources compared to PAPpypolitic access to the $1 billion channeled through PA.

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  • Realistically:

    @ never voted pap, never will:
    August 16, 2019 at 7:21 pm (Quote)

    “We have no other choice. No prawns so fish also can do lah, for the time being, unless PSP SDP and such stand against pap WP in Aljunied”

    I fully agree that SDP should stand in Aljunied and against the wayang party in other constituencies too, whereas PSP should concentrate in the Clementi, West Coast & Bukit Batok

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  • WP may lose Bedok Reservoir:

    never voted pap, never will: We live in Aljunied. We agree WP is a ffffing disappointment.

    Yet we only vote OPPO. Even if WP is pap team B, as long as WP is not named pap team B on ballot paper, WP gets our votes.

    What can we do? Don’t vote pap and let george yeo kind of pap Lj or ong ye kung type of pap Lj win? ffff. No way. Bad as WP is as an OPPOSITION team player, as long as WP against pap, our votes go to WP.

    We have no other choice. No prawns so fish also can do lah, for the time being, unless PSP SDP and such stand against pap WP in Aljunied.

    I go to different HDB estates. I talked to many customers. Yes, many in WP GRC are fed up with WP and to these many people including us, and many on TOC, WP is like a man but not manly .

    Half Ferk . But a half ferk is still better than a white LJ.

    So, there is no conflict. WP do what it do and the coalition do what they do. Both try to win over seats from P▲P.

    LET ME TELL YOU WHATS GONNA HAPPEN.
    IF the coalition ex-WP wins at least one GRC , WP would change its stance and want join the coalition.

    LTK must go.
    Old puppy cannot be trained.

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  • Oxygen weak Logic:

    oxygen:
    PLEASE DO NOT MALIGN WP, they too are bullied and stonewalled both inside and outside the house of the most expensive but mostly useless decorations.

    They tried their best despite the handicap of very limited number and constraints of resources compared to PAPpypolitic access to the $1 billion channeled through PA.

    If WP is bullied, the more it should form Coalition.

    So your excuse for WP becomes a argument against your own logic.

    WP voters can continue to support wp but at least they should show they have the IQ to question WP why it intentionally, purposely ensure they do not join the Coalition?

    Singapore politics is so pathetic because Singaporeans are so timid they have no brains to question. As TCB said, Ostriches , stick their heads into the sand.

    This also means they have their arses pointing toward the sky at 45degrees angle, body bent downwards for easy access.

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  • dont be delusional:

    Lisa James Lee Jr: You have said Nothing but used Character assassinating words to describe opposition leaders , very similar to how the White Ghosts brigade are doing.

    You are not WP, but speak up as if you are ? Wtf ! No credibility.

    If you are part of wp and what you spewed represents wp , then this is another evidence to is fake.

    Why talk about NSP or Desmond and avoid the question?

    Why is wp sabotaging the Coalition movement when wp admitted it is unable to form the govt.?

    Remember, the Coalition need not include Demons or NSP. It’s sufficient to have PSP, PV, SDP.

    SO, WHY WP not forming coalition?

    Why WP not even forming Coalition with PSP?

    WP did not do so since three GE ago. On Purpose ! The results speak for themselves. Without Coalition WP is like shit.

    And TRE Techie is also a voter and human with his own views. He has the right to express his opinions and we should appreciate that he did so.

    You are no body to dictate who can express opinions. The Onus is not in your Anus. The Onus is on you to prove why WP is not a Fake Opposition party planted by the enemy.

    TC can have so serious accounting issue knowing how important it is to account for the funds and it’s easily a way they be targeted and yet they create a mess?

    I think this TC accounting mess is just a big WAYANG to slow down the advancement of Opposition movement.

    LTK must go. He will not be remembered except for his singrish spoken like a farmer. A disgusting character whom I voted in the last 3 GE.

    Now, if a lump of puppy poo vs wp, I vote for…

    you are contradicting yourself.

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  • Ingrates should suffer:

    Poor WP Opposition, people of true dedications with the hearts; Risking own fortune, nearly going to made personally bankrupt because of the fixing works in defending and fighting for Righteousness, Justice and Freedom for the country and its people.

    Sylvia Lim could have joined PAP to enjoy money and life instead of defending for these lots of brainless ingrates.

    I agree – ingrates should suffer for next 100 years.

    Thumb down for techie:

    …. then I say you 30% deserve another 100 years of PAP Rule. You know not what you are doing!

    Oxygen weak Logic: If WP is bullied, the more it should form Coalition.

    So your excuse for WP becomes a argument against your own logic.

    WP voters can continue to support wp but at least

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  • dont be delusional:

    Coalition betterthan WP: Just to put a point across you have to talk so much?

    Simply put, WP is a proven Useless Failure and trait** to the opposition movement and population.

    WP itself admitted it ALONE cannot form the govt.

    Yet, WP insist to go alone . More of the same. UNDER WHO’S INSTRUCTIONS?

    An idiot knows that WP alone will lead us NOWHERE and COALITION is the better Option.

    WP supporters must not be so biased and should think logically that there is a real chance LTK is a trait**.

    The onus is on WP to prove its real…

    living in the past. nit picking and absolutely no value added to the opposition movements in the coming GE. repeating same old phrases about WP this and that, bla bla.

    write something outstanding and something new that will catch people’s attention in areas the PAP had let people la.

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  • dont be delusional:

    WP may lose Bedok Reservoir: I go to different HDB estates. I talked to many customers. Yes, many in WP GRC are fed up with WP and to these many people including us, and many on TOC, WP is like a man but not manly .

    Half Ferk . But a half ferk is still better than a white LJ.

    So, there is no conflict. WP do what it do and the coalition do what they do. Both try to win over seats from P▲P.

    LET ME TELL YOU WHATS GONNA HAPPEN.
    IF the coalition ex-WP wins at least one GRC , WP would change its stance and want join the coalition.

    LTK must go.
    Old puppy cannot be trained.

    this one reads like the person is ex-WP with an axe to grind. comments like this…have we not seen it once too many times before?

    more like ex-WP with an axe and is aiming for Old Low’s ass! hahahaha!

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Realistically:
    @ patriot of TUMASIK:
    August 16, 2019 at 5:18 pm

    “Pritam & Sylvia is a more formidable team as both are Legal Eagles with the same wavelength”

    Dun tok cok about the Pritam & Sylvia being “legal eagles”. With them being sued by the AHTC & having to spend a million $ & counting to engage Mr Rajah to defend them, including Low TK etc, when there are even more lawyers – not “legal eagles” in the true sense of the term – like Chen Show Mao, Robert Tan & the female lawyer from Cambridge U & probably others, the so called “legal eagles” can’t even face off with Davinder Singh, unlike Lim Tean facing off Davinder for Leong Sze Hian.

    By the way, dun use the moniker with “patriot” because, the wayang party has betrayed sinkies. with their failure to discharge their duties & responsibilities as opposition MPs. The wayang party’s MPs only serve the interests of the PAPies, as was most obvious when Sylvia Lim defended the PAPies during the International Bar Association meeting in Singapore in 2007.

    @ Dont be delusional:
    August 16, 2019 at 8:18 pm (Quote)

    U R obviously another of those self-serving wayang party IB.

    I have frequently called out the wayang party MPs as failing to live up to their duties and responsibilities as opposition MPs. Where have u been to rebut, debunk or demolish me?

    Maybe u can start doing so from my comments in this thread:

    http://www.tremeritus.net/2019/08/08/parliamentary-%e2%80%98reply%e2%80%99-by-half-past-six-minister-an-insult-to-wp-mp-png/

    Hello up against a Pliant and LeeGally Corrupt system even a Dozen Queens’ Consul will lose if not on Facts it will be Technicality…

    Just Remember: Within and Inside 200 meters OB line is different if you wear white leh!!! Church workers & volunteers are Marxist… a better word than COMMUNIST according to a Bastard now DEAD!!!… Why??? he was NOW licking Deng & Chinas’ DingDong

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  • dont be delusional:

    Coalition betterthan WP: Just to put a point across you have to talk so much?

    Simply put, WP is a proven Useless Failure and trait** to the opposition movement and population.

    WP itself admitted it ALONE cannot form the govt.

    Yet, WP insist to go alone . More of the same. UNDER WHO’S INSTRUCTIONS?

    An idiot knows that WP alone will lead us NOWHERE and COALITION is the better Option.

    WP supporters must not be so biased and should think logically that there is a real chance LTK is a trait**.

    The onus is on WP to prove its real…

    talking about yourself? the real idiot? Old Low a trait** LOL! laugh die me!

    FYI, TRE readers are not the only people in SG who go to the polls. AND these people dont read TRE, they have a mind of their own, unlike yours!!!

    If these people were to read what you written here they will surely say >> laugh die people, this type of sinkies we also have, singapore now sia-lang many many, walau!…hahaha!

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  • Dont be delusional:

    Realistically:
    @ patriot of TUMASIK:
    August 16, 2019 at 5:18 pm

    “Pritam & Sylvia is a more formidable team as both are Legal Eagles with the same wavelength”

    Dun tok cok about the Pritam & Sylvia being “legal eagles”. With them being sued by the AHTC & having to spend a million $ & counting to engage Mr Rajah to defend them, including Low TK etc, when there are even more lawyers – not “legal eagles” in the true sense of the term – like Chen Show Mao, Robert Tan & the female lawyer from Cambridge U & probably others, the so called “legal eagles” can’t even face off with Davinder Singh, unlike Lim Tean facing off Davinder for Leong Sze Hian.

    By the way, dun use the moniker with “patriot” because, the wayang party has betrayed sinkies. with their failure to discharge their duties & responsibilities as opposition MPs. The wayang party’s MPs only serve the interests of the PAPies, as was most obvious when Sylvia Lim defended the PAPies during the International Bar Association meeting in Singapore in 2007.

    @ Dont be delusional:
    August 16, 2019 at 8:18 pm (Quote)

    U R obviously another of those self-serving wayang party IB.

    I have frequently called out the wayang party MPs as failing to live up to their duties and responsibilities as opposition MPs. Where have u been to rebut, debunk or demolish me?

    Maybe u can start doing so from my comments in this thread:

    http://www.tremeritus.net/2019/08/08/parliamentary-%e2%80%98reply%e2%80%99-by-half-past-six-minister-an-insult-to-wp-mp-png/

    Who are you? want me to go and dig up your past comments? Who are you? Cant be bothered lah! hahaha!

    I am an opposition IB not a WP IB, you dig? definitely not some fifth column army like you.

    talk so much about debate and debunking. are you a debater? how about go and start a party of your own and debate inside parliament till the cow comes home, if you get elected la! let me extend a helping hand, you call your party ‘The Chin Chai Party’.

    realistically….what a funny word. hard hitting questions can easily be stonewalled by non-answers if you control the house.

    you got study history in school or not last time? oh never mind…hahaha!

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Dont be delusional: Who are you? want me to go and dig up your past comments? Who are you? Cant be bothered lah! hahaha!

    I am an opposition IB not a WP IB, you dig? definitely not some fifth column army like you.

    talk so much about debate and debunking. are you a debater? how about go and start a party of your own and debate inside parliament till the cow comes home, if you get elected la! let me extend a helping hand, you call your party ‘The Chin Chai Party’.

    realistically….what a funny word. hard hitting questions can easily be stonewalled by non-answers if you control the house.

    you got study history in school or not last time? oh never mind…hahaha!

    Hello fren, it is NOT important who I am it is what I am that counts…I am a Patriot who had seen it all from day ONE 1959 to present…if possible 1955 to 1959 too but that is not relevant…my Mother…Bless her soul though NOT educated a simple Housewife told us children, very often…

    “I have taken more SALT than you have taken Rice” and my Fave ” a ‘COLD DOG’ will never KNOW Hot Weather’ ” go figure the 2nd one from a simple uneducated Housewife…for me,…

    those are the TRUE word of wisdom…NOT the Hard BULL you hear every day from High Faluting Politicians and their well CONditioned Dogs Barking and Attacking on Command

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    don’t be [email protected]…One more thing for an Opposition IB or whatever you call yourself you have limited grey matter which is STATIC..turn it Fluid and you will see better Light for Singapore…

    it is such MINDS that allowed whoever in POWER to CONtrol it for their Self Purpose…YesSirYesSir I am a FOOL!!! (No malice and if the Hat fits wear it if NOT…”THINK” and you are!!!)

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  • Realistically:

    @ patriot of TUMASIK:
    August 17, 2019 at 11:16 pm (Quote)

    “Hello up against a Pliant and LeeGally Corrupt system even a Dozen Queens’ Consul will lose if not on Facts it will be Technicality…”

    All the more reason why the wayang party should not have spent $1 million (& counting) on a Senior Counsel, Mr Rajah & his law firm……..since, according to u, even a Dozen Q.C would not hv made a difference.

    If the judiciary is as what u claimed, then why did Sylvia Lim defend the PAPie’s judiciary during the IBA meeting in S’pore in 2007?

    In any case, the issue of the Singapore judiciary is irrelevant to whether the lawyers in the wayang party are just mediocre, as how they hv conducted themselves.

    Also, what hv the wayang party MPs done anything, if at all, about the alleged lack of integrity of the system?

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  • Realistically:

    @ Dont be delusional:
    August 18, 2019 at 1:00 am

    “Who are you? want me to go and dig up your past comments? Who are you?”

    What hv what I’ve posted got to anything at all about who I am? Go “dig up” what u wish if it helps you to prove that u are not another of those low life scums from the wayang party good only for selling s*ake oil.

    U claim u r an “opposition IB” when u defend the wayang party against all the valid criticism & descend into a low life form to abuse others? U, like the wayang party u obviously belong, give a genuine opposition a bad name. Utter disgrace & immoral.

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  • Dafts Will Be Dafts:

    Divide and conquer, some dumbos obviously have not figured out the root of the problem. PAP is the problem.
    WP or any oppositions have not caused the mess of this country.
    PAP policies caused the huge mess.

    Opposition WP only has token representative in parliament, if dumbos think this is enough to stop PAP policies then they should have their heads checked.
    Calling WP B team, C team is not going to change the real issue a bit. This is simple maths, 10 cannot outvote 80.

    Aim your frustrations at the right target, bashing WP is not at all helpful.
    PAP, just like communist, loves the tactic of divide and rule.
    Now and then, we will see fools and IBs repeatedly blaming WP.

    Kick out PAP, things will fall in place, the issues will eventually right themselves, because the greed and evil elements are removed.

    Dafts only have themselves to blame, you get what you voted.

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Dont be delusional: Who are you? want me to go and dig up your past comments? Who are you? Cant be bothered lah! hahaha!

    I am an opposition IB not a WP IB, you dig? definitely not some fifth column army like you.

    talk so much about debate and debunking. are you a debater? how about go and start a party of your own and debate inside parliament till the cow comes home, if you get elected la! let me extend a helping hand, you call your party ‘The Chin Chai Party’.

    realistically….what a funny word. hard hitting questions can easily be stonewalled by non-answers if you control the house.

    you got study history in school or not last time? oh never mind…hahaha!

    Dont be delusional: Who are you? want me to go and dig up your past comments? Who are you? Cant be bothered lah! hahaha!

    I am an opposition IB not a WP IB, you dig? definitely not some fifth column army like you.

    talk so much about debate and debunking. are you a debater? how about go and start a party of your own and debate inside parliament till the cow comes home, if you get elected la! let me extend a helping hand, you call your party ‘The Chin Chai Party’.

    realistically….what a funny word. hard hitting questions can easily be stonewalled by non-answers if you control the house.

    you got study history in school or not last time? oh never mind…hahaha!

    Dont be delusional: Who are you? want me to go and dig up your past comments? Who are you? Cant be bothered lah! hahaha!

    I am an opposition IB not a WP IB, you dig? definitely not some fifth column army like you.

    talk so much about debate and debunking. are you a debater? how about go and start a party of your own and debate inside parliament till the cow comes home, if you get elected la! let me extend a helping hand, you call your party ‘The Chin Chai Party’.

    realistically….what a funny word. hard hitting questions can easily be stonewalled by non-answers if you control the house.

    you got study history in school or not last time? oh never mind…hahaha!

    don’t be delusional @ 1.00am…sorry bro I may have answered your question wrongly when asking “who are you”…

    should anyone asked who am I…That is my FIRM ANSWER!!!

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  • I ask WP sympathisers:

    So, tell us, what us the real official reason why WP rather die than join coalition?

    If you don’t know the official real reasons and just guessing, then you are an idiot basic on believing and assumptions with no ability to Question.

    A masturbator and regurgitator. No Wisdom. Only Ignorance.

    Are you just a Ostrich with your head stuck in the sand to avoid asking the pertinent questions and prefer to allow white shit to have easy access to your arse pointing to the sky ?.

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  • Longan:

    Is MotherSHIT
    Trying to create rift between Opposition parties?

    Look at it article on chee

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  • Ostrich Brain alot of noise:

    @[I ask WP sympathisers]:

    An example for your Ostrich brain;

    Based on record of the parties in last election;

    A garnered 40,000 votes, B got 300 votes and lost its deposit….. will A coalition with B to field B? At what benefits and purpose? Will you want to waste time tussling in the coalition to field B or be forced to field B? just because it was veto by B1, B2 and B3 to field B? It is for this reason that WP should stay far out from the Coalition to avoid unnecessary falling into tricks.

    So don’t be so stupid! anymore, Unless you come back and justify the benefits of your “coalition” otherwise please don’t demean others with your poor cultured bad mouth here.

    If you will to mean “coalition” as discussion on organising the fielding, then you can simply assume that they are doing it.

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  • Using Extreme advantage:

    Ostrich Brain alot of noise:
    @[I ask WP sympathisers]:

    An example for your Ostrich brain;

    Based on record of the parties in last election;

    A garnered 40,000 votes, B got 300 votes and lost its deposit….. will A coalition with B to field B? At what benefits and purpose? Will you want to waste time tussling in the coalition to field B or be forced to field B? just because it was veto by B1, B2 and B3 to field B? It is for this reason that WP should stay far out from the Coalition to avoid unnecessary falling into tricks.

    So don’t be so stupid! anymore, Unless you come back and justify the benefits of your “coalition” otherwise please don’t demean others with your poor cultured bad mouth here.

    If you will to mean “coalition” as discussion on organising the fielding, then you can simply assume that they are doing it.

    Don’t act like smart Alec.
    Your words are full of low IQ.

    Let me educate you as it seems you have no ability to discern :

    1. There are lousy opposition small parties. But have I said to invite lousy opposition to join a coalition?
    No. You put words into my mouth.
    I mentioned SDP, PV and PSP.

    2. So, your argument is already Neutralised by my point 1.

    Do you dare to say PSP is a lousy party with no talents worthy for WP to form Coalition with? A coalition can be between WP and PSP. This will help WP because many WP residents are thinking of voting out WP. PSP will save WP ass .

    3. Already WP has been plagued with law suits. So, you think WP alone can a better job than a coalition with PSP or PV ?
    The onus is on you to justify your rubbish claims.

    If you cannot debate, F.off!

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  • Ostrich Brain alot of noise:

    Bloody noisy arse-hole, pathetic uncultured upbringing small kid;

    Where the F did you mention SDP, PV and PSP in [I ask WP sympathisers}? You must have posted so many that your Ostrich brain has been overloaded.

    PSP is a new and unproven party. Acceptance can only be attested by the Peoples’ votes. I am not going to waste my time educating you the different between presidential and GE election, amongst the other problems of the coalition.

    Dumb kid, not worthy to even talk to.

    Using Extreme advantage:
    No. You put words into my mouth.
    I mentioned SDP, PV and PSP.

    I ask WP sympathisers:
    So, tell us, what us the real official reason why WP rather die than join coalition?

    If you don’t know the official real reasons and just guessing, then you are an idiot basic on believing and assumptions with no ability to Question.

    A masturbator and regurgitator. No Wisdom. Only Ignorance.

    Are you just a Ostrich with your head stuck in the sand to avoid asking the pertinent questions and prefer to allow white shit to have easy access to your arse pointing to the sky ?.

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  • Mr Talented:

    KJ also very talented man ….
    talents and GE votes count is not the same…

    No benefits for WP to take risks. Simple answer.

    Using Extreme advantage:

    Do you dare to say PSP is a lousy party with no talents

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Realistically:
    @ patriot of TUMASIK:
    August 17, 2019 at 11:16 pm (Quote)

    “Hello up against a Pliant and LeeGally Corrupt system even a Dozen Queens’ Consul will lose if not on Facts it will be Technicality…”

    All the more reason why the wayang party should not have spent $1 million (& counting) on a Senior Counsel, Mr Rajah & his law firm……..since, according to u, even a Dozen Q.C would not hv made a difference.

    If the judiciary is as what u claimed, then why did Sylvia Lim defend the PAPie’s judiciary during the IBA meeting in S’pore in 2007?

    In any case, the issue of the Singapore judiciary is irrelevant to whether the lawyers in the wayang party are just mediocre, as how they hv conducted themselves.

    Also, what hv the wayang party MPs done anything, if at all, about the alleged lack of integrity of the system?

    There is SOMETHING known as Due Process and WP are doing what comes Naturally for a Sane Party…even though they are up against a Mad & Evil Dynasty

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  • Realistically:

    The wayang party’s IB have failed miserably to rebut my accusations that its MPs have failed in the duties and responsibilities as MPs, but instead resort to their s*ake oil propaganda of “divide and conquer” when in reality the party just wayangs its way in Parliament.

    I have mentioned about Sylvia Lim supporting the PAPies during the International Bar Association meeting in Singapore in 2007, with no response from the wayang party’s IB.

    Sinkies should also not forget that Low Thia Khiang also supported PM Lee Hsien Loong over Singapore’s role in the China 9 dash line claim over large swath of the South China Seas even as China had warned and retaliated against Singapore. Since then Singapore has remained silent even as photos showed that China is now basing its fighter planes on the reclaimed island in the contest South China Seas. Surely if Low Thia Khiang had deemed that China’s policy of enlarging and occupying the disputed islands earlier was not in Singapore’s interest, then, the stationing of Chinese fighter planes would be even more of a threat to seaborne traffic going to and from Singapore and he should press the govt. to further agitate in line with being the tool of the US and Japan.

    But Low Thiay Khiang has failed to do so……..it is obvious that Low was trying to curry favour with PM Lee.

    As for coalition, no one has raised the possibility that the wayang party would like to form a coalition with the whites should there be a hung Parliament and the wayang party being able to tip the balance towards the PAPies. That I think is probably the reason that the wayang party keeps silent about forming a coalition with other genuine oppos. My personal view; anyone is free to disagree.

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  • Realistically:

    @ patriot of TUMASIK:
    August 19, 2019 at 7:02 pm

    “There is SOMETHING known as Due Process and WP are doing what comes Naturally for a Sane Party…even though they are up against a Mad & Evil Dynasty”

    Dun tok cok about “due process” lah.

    Whether the judiciary is “pliant” – according to u – or not, has nothing to do with “due process” which is taken to mean proper procedures & stare decisis (rule of precedent).

    I don’t see the AHTC defence nor Pritam Singh, Low Thia Kiang or Sylvia Lim, showing otherwise.

    The FACT remains that Philip Ang has shown numerous cases of the failures of GIC, Temasek & PAPies’ policies like the fake subsidies for medical care; free money for PRC students etc, which the wayang party had failed to do so hiding behind the excuse of the PAPies refusing to provide the facts. How come Philip Ang could/can call out when the wayang party’s MPs could not – but still continue to shamelessly receive their monthly MP allowance of about $16k plus bonuses a couple of times a year.

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  • Dont be delusional:

    Realistically:
    The wayang party’s IB have failed miserably to rebut my accusations that its MPs have failed in the duties and responsibilities as MPs, but instead resort to their s*ake oil propaganda of “divide and conquer” when in reality the party just wayangs its way in Parliament.

    I have mentioned about Sylvia Lim supporting the PAPies during the International Bar Association meeting in Singapore in 2007, with no response from the wayang party’s IB.

    Sinkies should also not forget that Low Thia Khiang also supported PM Lee Hsien Loong over Singapore’s role in the China 9 dash line claim over large swath of the South China Seas even as China had warned and retaliated against Singapore. Since then Singapore has remained silent even as photos showed that China is now basing its fighter planes on the reclaimed island in the contest South China Seas. Surely if Low Thia Khiang had deemed that China’s policy of enlarging and occupying the disputed islands earlier was not in Singapore’s interest, then, the stationing of Chinese fighter planes would be even more of a threat to seaborne traffic going to and from Singapore and he should press the govt. to further agitate in line with being the tool of the US and Japan.

    But Low Thiay Khiang has failed to do so……..it is obvious that Low was trying to curry favour with PM Lee.

    As for coalition, no one has raised the possibility that the wayang party would like to form a coalition with the whites should there be a hung Parliament and the wayang party being able to tip the balance towards the PAPies. That I think is probably the reason that the wayang party keeps silent about forming a coalition with other genuine oppos. My personal view; anyone is free to disagree.

    You have already make yourself to be a laughing stock in TRE with your previous comments and now another silly one.

    Realistically after you had inadvertently reveal yourself to be so stupid in your writings and logic, a sane person, he/she would have come back with a new monicker. LOL!

    OK OK, I let you have the last word, you win…happy now? hahahaha!

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  • Realistically:

    Further to my last comment on August 20 @ 1.42 am:

    Low Thia Kiang is on record to say that his wayang party was a CO-DRIVER with the PAPies.

    Is it therefore strange that he would form a coalition with the PAPies than with the other genuine opposition parties?

    The people of Hougang, Aljunied GRC and those in the constituencies where the wayang party had contested and people like Oxygen are the real DAFT ones to believe that the wayang party is a genuine opposition despite every indication otherwise.

    This can also be seen in this thread where their IBs resort to harassing when they cannot rebut my criticisms based on the facts and the wayang party leaders actual conduct.

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    I forgot to remind readers that Low Thia Khiang graduated from Nantah (former Nanyang University, which emphasised Chinese learning) & should have been familiar with Chinese history, culture and custom.Yet he supported PM Lee’s miscalculation in supporting the USA & Japan to criticise China’s dash 9 claims over large parts of the South China Seas.

    To me, Low Thia Kiang’s support of PM Lee’s criticisms was a betrayal of Singapore’s interest in having a cordial relationship with China by remaining neutral in China’s claims.

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