Call not to throw out the PAP government with an important caveat

“My response was that now they have done so in the UK, look what has happened? Pandora Box is opened. What then? Life isn’t just about the romanticised notion of change or revolution. Good grief. Look under the coin if you have to see what is on the other side Life isn’t as simple as flipping coins”- Tan Chuan Jin (TCJ).

In short, TCJ was urging Singaporeans not to throw out the People’s Action Party (PAP) government and I agree with him but with an important caveat. I repeat. I agree with TCJ’s call not to throw out the pap government but with an important caveat.

In the next General Election, any outcome is possible. We may still retain the PAP as a government with an absolute majority or we may end up with a PAP government with under two-thirds parliamentary majority or we may even end up with a coalition government, etc. Only the final electoral results will decide how we will eventually end up. Between the deep blue sea and the little devil who has less than a two-third parliamentary majority, I choose the latter. That would be a safer and more sensible choice.

I want a government that is truly accountable to our people and not merely singing sweet nothing rhetorics. I want a government that is not able to change our Constitution so easily and lightly as and when it suits their convenience such as turning an Indian woman into the President of the Republic of Singapore in a Presidential Election reserved ONLY for the Malays. I want a government that is not all so powerful until it can change the laws with no difficulty at all that enables it to renege on its own promise made to Singaporeans not to return to CPF members their lifelong savings punctually. I don’t want a Parliament that has seen so many of the ruling party members blatantly sleeping on their seats when parliamentary sessions were ongoing. I also want a government that will never again allow our Parliament to be used as a venue to clear its member/s of whatever accusations that his or her family members or even members of the public hurled at. There are definitely more suitable places for such settlements etc. The list is long.

Given all that, I hope that Singaporeans can be braver in the next GE, care more for their families’ and their children’ sake, understand our national issues deeper and vote accordingly. One’s conscience must be anytime bigger than one’s fear. Think!

 

Simon Lim

 

 

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35 Responses to “Call not to throw out the PAP government with an important caveat”

  • oxygen:

    THOSE WHO PRINT THEIR OWN PAYSLIPs are NOT ENTITLED to moral preach the rest.

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  • oxygen:

    ANY OTHER OUTCOME would be UNNATURAL.

    Mining.com :BHP’s chief executive, Andrew Mackenzie, saw his annual pay shrink by almost a quarter after an unexplained death at one of the company’s Queensland mines and a runaway iron ore train cost him a portion of his short-term bonus.

    BHP CEO’s pay cut by almost 25% after worker’s death, runaway train

    https://www.mining.com/bhp-boss-pay-cut-by-almost-25-after-workers-death-runaway-train/

    I think the BHP Board of Directors have given the hint to Andrew Mackenzie that he is not expected to last much longer in performance failure if stakeholder screams.

    POWER AUTHORITY AND PAYSLIP IS NOT AN ENTITLED BIRTH RIGHT OF ANYBODY.

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  • Asd:

    Look at Najib…

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  • Asd:

    You agree .. who are you ?

    Only know how to cry and cry at hong lim park because money no enough and cry for cpf $..

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  • Don’t try to rationalise?:

    After 50 long years and you still did not learn anything. How long would you want to learn that you giving back a whole chicken after receiving an overnight left over piece of meat?

    If the whole population thinks and act like you, we are all doomed! HDB price never falls? Or 99 years never arrive!

    The only way is VTO………don’t think too far otherwise nothing happens……..?They continue being paid $3million from tax $.

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  • We have decided:

    Oh!! We all have decided.

    Let the GE result show our decision.

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  • What is 2/3 majority?:

    What are some Singaporeans who focused on “2/3 majority”?
    Why do they think PAP with less than 2/3 majority is less powerful?

    They are likely not well informed.
    2/3 majority is only needed for a few special occasions, e.g. changing parts of the constitution.

    A party with 51% majority can do anything it wants. There is still no check against it.

    There is only one effective check in Parliament, where MPs call a vote of no confidence against the PM. 51% is a sure win for confidence. Result – no check.

    The ONLY check by citizens is VTO.

    Change of party is the only effective check against a rogue party.

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  • Rabble-rouser:

    Another hidden PAP IB inside TRE’s growing list of embedded Pro-Govt TRE contributors. Nothing wrong with that but just be careful of their subtle & sublimal message.

    Frankly, S’pore is too far down the road of population growth policies & much of the pathways taken have become irreversible!

    Look at the continual Big Infrastructural Spending Projects, the latest being the Greater Southern Waterfront project. This is in addition to many others including the Jurong Innovation District, Jurong Lake District, One North, Woodlands Business Park, Paya Lebar Office District, Northern Technology Corridor, Paya Lebar Airbase redevelopment, etc.

    There will be at least 150,000 homes planned over the next few years for Northern Technology Corridor alone in Punggol. The amount of housing coming up the next decades is mind-boggling. Local TFR will not be able to fill this huge property oversupply. Even the rental market is questionable! The math here is rather simplistic but brutal.

    The Greater Southern Waterfront project will cost hundreds of S$ billions for relocation cost shifting port facilities to Tuas West. Listen to this podcast & reflect on an independent property expert’s opinion:
    https://www.propertysoul.com/2019/08/27/greater-southern-waterfront/

    I, for one, am skeptical of those linear projections so far into the future. If those bets don’t aligned going forward, S’pore will have a huge debt legacy to be paid by the citizenry.

    Those who will vote for the PAP are rubbing their hands with glee hoping to achieve future prosperity as gung-ho property investors. Yet the Global economic direction & S’pore’s own Demographics don’t inspire much confidence!

    Another simple logic to consider – Would S’pore’s high cost structure attract foreign investments into S’pore? Everything would have to be imported including expats! Meaning a return to the open door policy the next few years!

    Does the PAP have a better plan instead of this mind deficient & senseless population growth policies? I don’t think so!

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  • Tremendous:

    Secret meetings are convened from time to time and here’s one.
    Manpower Chiefess to Education Chief : It’s all because of your education policies. You keep churning out youngsters who are only good with the textbooks. Now I land up with lots of locals in the market who cannot find jobs.
    Education Chief : Why don’t you say the job market is bad because of the huge truckloads of foreigners you admitted into our small space ? You dare not say that because the boss once said that foreigners create jobs for locals right ?
    Law Chief to everyone : Ok, don’t argue anymore. I will protect you with a rule that gives chiefs the power to claim what is real and fake. Just don’t go overboard and tell people the sun comes out from the west, ok ?
    Manpower Chiefess : Hurray! Now I can tell people there are 60000 jobs out there when we are only talking about 60000 job postings, and our loosely regulated environment allows parties to use fake postings to chalk up the number.
    Speech Chief to Manpower Chiefess : Ok, once you release the cooked news of 60000 jobs, I will issue some motherhood speech to tell the people not to withdraw their support for us.

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  • scared:

    Is he reflecting a PAP that is losing confidence in itself? The whip better get this MP in line if he is out of line.

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  • Boh Kia See:

    In our system, unless you have the majority, there cannot be any accountability or transparency. That is something that Simon should be thinking about.

    The ability to keep everything secret, including such information such as Ho Jinx’s pay, is not because the PAP has absolute majority. It is because they are the ruling party. So long as the PAP remains as the ruling party the ideas of accountability, transparency and press freedoms will not happen. They are in the realms of fantasy.

    We should be realistic and use polling to gauge the shifts in voter views and sentiment. Also be alert to any sort of hanky panky in the electoral process by the PAP–I don’t trust them one bit.

    What is happening in UK and the States shows the will of the people. If I have to choose, life under the systems of both those countries is better than life in Russia or China. The people of Hong Kong know that–so why are Singaporeans still so dim about it?

    The fact that there are disruptions and confrontation is all part of the democratic process. Even within families disruptions and confrontations also occur–it is part of life. If you are against the normal ebb and flow of circumstances then you should train yourself to be like a robot.

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  • Flabbergasted:

    Come on..either you are for the opposition or for the present government. Sorry to have to note this down..what you are expropriating is just not feasible. It ain’t gonna happen. As Dr. Tan Cheng Bok has stated on numerous occassions…”it’s the PAP that has changed”. For me I go for change and I will vote accordingly. I will play my part in influencing as many people as I possibly can…and it’s about time I did it…whole-heartedly.

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  • RDB:

    Yeh, just wait long long for Sg’s childish voters to be brave.

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  • dont be a cock, Simon:

    pap must go, like najib’s UMNO is gone.

    need New Government by a better group of Sporeans to be in power, so that clown and wife and their S$m gang of parleement approved S$m thieves can be replaced and history rewritten.

    it is because of the 70% sheep mindset that Spore dies without pap that explains why 70% sheep lives are hard harder hardest.

    dont be a cock, Simon. Your position is your choice. You can hold it. But we tell you you are wrong, dead wrong.

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Dreams are FREE and so is an ILLUSION!!!… Reality is SOMETHING we have to LIVE with and Reality without the RIGHT to “THINK” and SAY what you ‘think’ without ending in the Doldrums of being sued or arrested is ABSOLUTELY not worth the apparent ILLUSION of Success…

    Throw the PAP OUT if Possible…Deny them the 2/3 that will STOP the steam roller from rolling all over the silly sheep and People…

    or

    Put them back into POWER and LIVE with the EVIL which is the reverse of “LIVE”

    the CHOICE is there…Live with the EVIL or LIVE a LIFE!!!

    The Owl @Istana had made its CALL on 26th August 2017…and the !!! “Look WHOO is Back”

    and The Muffled Drum Beat @ Istana will soon begin

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  • Freedom to ejaculate:

    dont be a cock, Simon:
    pap must go, like najib’s UMNO is gone.

    need New Government by a better group of Sporeans to be in power, so that clown and wife and their S$m gang of parleement approved S$m thieves can be replaced and history rewritten.

    it is because of the 70% sheep mindset that Spore dies without pap that explains why 70% sheep lives are hard harder hardest.

    dont be a cock, Simon. Your position is your choice. You can hold it. But we tell you you are wrong, dead wrong.

    I am not simon.
    But i wanna say, elections is a report card showing how many fools exist.

    There are only a few people in singapore
    Who knows how to make singapore better and improve our lives better than pap.

    The majority lacks the IQ, intellectual sophistication to know how singapore can easily be better. How WE CAN RETIRE BETTER.

    Most singaporeans BELIEVE that THEY ARE THE HUMBLE SERVANTS AND THE LEADERS ARE THE MASTERS. They prove this by showing how much they fear them.

    The Ostrich farm is full of ostriches.

    This is why change will not cum this GE.

    The influx of FT proves how the education has failed and how many ostriches and how many intellectually unsophisticated educated fools exist in Ostrich farm.

    Singapore education is over-rated and i can prove this in one sentence undebunkable :

    Name one a world greatest product you are using now that is invented by a localyl born singaporean, the education prowess notwithstanding.

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  • N.Jungne:

    He is to go first, leading the rest.

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  • Good-for-nothings:

    Dont talk so much TCJ.
    What have you done all this while to make a difference in our sg or in the lives of sgs?
    SGs got eyes to see and will vote accordingly.
    In fact we cant wait to kick all your butts out forever.

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  • Bobo:

    Any meaning for 2/3 oppoS and 1/3 PAP? If your handphone had lost its functionality, do you still think of keeping 1/3 of the parts to save for future use? Perhaps the 1/3 parts cannot syn with other systems, then it may create more headaches. So instead of correcting the current problems, you have to think of more ways to fix them first. Then, eventually it is a waste of money, energy, space and time to preserve them for another 5years to 10years.

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  • roy:

    Be realistic. The PAP will be in power for the next 100 years. People will not vote for SDA, PPP, PVP, NSP, DPP, SFP, Reform Party and SPP. Most electorate prefer strong Oppositions like WP, PSP or even SDP. Will the strong Oppositions win all seats… The answer is an absolute No. The most the combined strong Opposition could win is 10-15 seats. This fall short of the 30 seats that the Oppositions will garner… So TCJ need not fear…PAP will win majority of the seats as most Singaporeans will vote for PAP.

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  • Where's Our Money?:

    Throwing out, we will get all the answers that have been asking for years without reply. The reserves, the salaries, the platinum.

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  • Extreme Greed and Evil:

    This is the guy that proudly claimed our old folks pick rubbish to exercise.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    To Simon Lim, you sound like you’re having cold feet already?

    Why? Scared like the 70% with Spineless Sinkie Syndrome (SSS) of a possible “freak result” for the incumbent, so now you try to back-peddle your way out with “caveats” in your confusing title?

    Come on bro, you are becoming such an Oppie disappointment.
    Simon your weasling in your article is basically calling out to your fellow sinkies to “give them yet another chance” or not to “throw out the baby with the bathwater” yes?

    Simon, please DONT do satire or political sarcarsm if you cannot make it VERY CLEAR to Sinkies who you are rooting for: Oppies or Pappies.
    You only end up confusing the typical dafts in the process and yourself too!

    Its such “unstable” behavior as yours that tells me the strategy of Opposition to contest in ALL wards is going to fail miserable….AGAIN!

    Too many SSS actually FEAR an overhaul, no matter how convincing you are on the need for it.

    Like back in 2011 & 2015, once all these ‘kiasi’ SSS see that ALL the wards are being contested, they will FLIP and vote for incumbent because they are worried that they may be a possibility of freak result.

    Hence, even with a supposed strong “Coalition”, the probability of Oppies gaining 2/3 of seats is a near IMPOSSIBILITY.

    Which brings me to my perspective which has been said many times before.

    *******************************************************
    THE BEST strategy now for Opposition is to:

    - go all out with TCB and party to contest ONLY at AMK.
    - WP can go back to their existing strongholds just to maintain baseline.
    - ALL the other Oppies can either: join UNDER TCB party OR they abstain totally from the GE, so that ALL other wards can be left as walkovers.

    *******************************************************
    This above strategy will TELL all the 70% SSS that no freak result is possible and that most of the current body politic will be MAINTAINED to allay their fears.

    However, the ONLY purpose is to get the “dishonorable Son” out of the way and to remove the s*ake-head.
    When the Snake-head is removed, then this will be the FIRST step to possible (gradual) change as the Dynastic link will be forever broken.

    There is no point to give SSS too many choices which confuses them & furthermore “gradual” change is what ‘kiasi” Sinkies want as they cannot imagine drastic change or they will soil their panties, yes? Ha!

    In any case, SSS will also NOT appreciate it when given the full democratic choice (back in 2011 & 2015) where ALL wards are contested. In fact, as I’ve mentioned above, contesting ALL wards will instead have a REVERSE impact because of ‘kiasi’ Sinkies mentality.

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  • oxygen:

    TCJ WHEN HE WAS MANPOWER MINISTER SAID CPF is our money OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT. If he had said the same INSIDE PARLIAMENT, it is LAW because Parliament is the place law is enacted.

    IF HE UTTERED CPF is our money INSIDE PARLIAMENT, the law is thus established that CPF is our money, we can demand performance, and withdrawal rights of our election and if the manager can’t perform we can give him and his mates the farking sack.

    OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT it is TCJ right to TOK COCK! And he did very well on that score.

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  • TruBlu:

    i fully concur wtih TCJ that ‘life’ is not as easy as flipping a coin.
    TCJ,YOU ARE SO DAMN RIGHT!
    GO TELL IT TO YOUR BO$$!!!

    GOOD GOVERNANCE IS NOT AS EASY AS FLIPPING A COIN ESPECIALLY IN THE DARK,eh?

    look around you,IS COLLECTING CARDBOARD A GOOD FORM OF EXCERCISE?
    IF SO,HOW COME I DONT SEE YOURS OR KEE CHIU’S GRANNIES DOING SO???

    TALK COCK SING SONG N COUNTING MONEY IS AS EASY AS ABC… anyone can do that.
    WE dont need EXPENSIVE SCHOLARS to do so,ya?

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  • rukidding:

    5 years is a “very short time”.

    If “we” do make a mistake in kicking them out this year….still got chance to “recover”.

    At least,…the next time round….”they” ( Pap) wouldn’t dare “fool” or “cheat” or “screw” or even think that we are “sillyzeans and dafts” !

    I say,….go ahead and “kick” their arse !

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  • Harder Truths:

    @Rabble-rouser is right.

    This is a piece following exactly what the Old Man did – give the “$G will fail without my party” speech. And that is why we are here today – 56 years on and still a slave nation.

    Freedom has its risks. Only a mature society can survive as a real democracy. Nothing is for granted. Not even a slave nation.

    Might as well forget about elections if people are so scared of taking responsibility.

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  • Crony Apologetics:

    Sounds like the ranting of one of them dirt-rich inner-circle oligarchs with personally vested interests other than that with the people for the sake of the people. Reams of certificates notwithstanding…

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  • More Pain Needed:

    Let the dafts enjoy more pain that they voted.
    Talk is useless, when pain is enough change will come.

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  • Please Lah !!! Rabble-rouser:

    for someone who constantly harping on how great China is to the point of “China invented gunpowder just for fireworks only” now telling others to “be careful of their subtle & sublimal message.”????

    You are neither IB nor Oppo, certainly not “The voice of Singaporean” and definitely not “for Singapore”.

    You are the one doing your master’s bidding with subtle & subliminal postings trying to fob off “Mr Xi offer of a new option for other countries” that would involve “(China) Chinese wisdom and a (China) Chinese approach to solving the problems facing mankind.””

    https://www.economist.com/leaders/2018/03/01/how-the-west-got-china-wrong

    There is a name for the likes of you, isn’t it?

    Rabble-rouser:

    Another hidden PAP IB inside TRE’s growing list of embedded Pro-Govt TRE contributors. Nothing wrong with that but just be careful of their subtle & sublimal message.

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  • Realistically:

    @ Simon Lim

    “Given all that, I hope that Singaporeans can be braver in the next GE, care more for their families’ and their children’ sake, understand our national issues deeper and vote accordingly.”

    Looks to me like you have a very limited understanding, if at all, of the REAL CAUSE, PROBLEMS AND ISSUES all of which have led to this country becoming SINKaPOOR.

    And with the PAPies being in charge continuously for the last 60 years.

    Yes, you and others ought to think what and how the PAPies policies would cause the lower case of SINKaPOOR.

    The problem with you is that your thinking is rather superficial, as I think I have said so before.

    @ Rabble-rouser:
    September 19, 2019 at 12:27 pm (Quote)

    “Another hidden PAP IB inside TRE’s growing list of embedded Pro-Govt TRE contributors. Nothing wrong with that but just be careful of their subtle & sublimal message.

    Frankly, S’pore is too far down the road of population growth policies & much of the pathways taken have become irreversible!”

    I agree with you.

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  • Rabble-rouser:

    @ Please Lah !!! Rabble-rouser:
    Did I step on your tail? What’s your problem, really?

    Like I said previously under a different TRE thread, China formulated gunpowder but didn’t take it as far as the Europeans who took it further using encased bullets & accurate shooting implements. With the improved Firearms Technology, Europeans conquered, dominated & colonized the rest of the world. And that is the proof of history for Western Gunpowder Diplomacy. What is it you don’t understand?

    You are the one who talks about China’s “fire-lance” & a whole lot of crap to dispute basic history.

    If you got eyes to see, the West (especially the US) uses militarism, covert black ops & “False Flag” attacks to provoke war in sensitive regions. There’s no master involved in being able to see things differently from a “barking” crowd of like-minded fools!

    Now it’s my turn to say, “There is a name for the likes of you, isn’t it?”

    Please Lah !!! Rabble-rouser:: You are neither IB nor Oppo, certainly not “The voice of Singaporean” and definitely not “for Singapore”.

    You are the one doing your master’s bidding with subtle & subliminal postings trying to fob off “Mr Xi offer of a new option for other countries” that would involve “(China) Chinese wisdom and a (China) Chinese approach to solving the problems facing mankind.””

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  • oxygen:

    AFTER HIS HAPPY RETIREMENT FROM POLITICS – better sooner than later I hope – TCJ might want to return to the military where his skills might be aptly suited far better. Inside, the authority structure is COMMAND AND CONTROL of obedience and compliance exacted or else!

    Politics and governance is NOT SO NEATLY LINEAR.

    TCJ:My response was that now they have done so in the UK, look what has happened? Pandora Box is opened. What then? Life isn’t just about the romanticised notion of change or revolution. Good grief. Look under the coin if you have to see what is on the other side Life isn’t as simple as flipping coins

    Nor are these domain remains in a stable state.

    Smart boy does not seems to be aware that opening the Pandora Box is REJUVENATION.

    The Australian Parks and Wildlife Service can provide him with some apprenticeship training.

    Parks and Wildlife Service, Australian Government: Fire, plants and vegetation
    Fire is an ecologically friendly and cost effective tool to regenerate and rehabilitate vegetation on disturbed sites. It helps new seedlings by temporarily reducing competition from established vegetation and creating ash beds suitable for germination. Fire is used:

    to stimulate the release of seed from capsules held in the crowns of forest trees after timber harvesting
    to prepare the seed bed by providing ash that is full of beneficial nutrients such as potash

    https://www.dpaw.wa.gov.au/management/fire/fire-and-the-environment/53-fire-plants-and-vegetation

    WITHOUT OPENING THE PANDORA BOX AND REJUVENATION, HOW DOES LEE-jiapore PROGRESS???

    Fred Emery and Eric Trist taught the world nearly 70 years ago this -

    The Causal Texture of Organisational Environment written in the early 1950s by two Australian social science minds – F E Emery and E. L Trist

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/001872676501800103

    The writing spoke vigorously and intensely on adaption to turbulent change in the external environment.

    PAPpypolitics and PAPpynomics is still COZY IN SLUMBERLAND.

    REPLACE THE WHOLE MOB IN THE NEXT GE.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Rabble-rouser

    BEAUTIFULLY SAID, it is CANCER.

    Rabble-rouser: Frankly, S’pore is too far down the road of population growth policies & much of the pathways taken have become irreversible!

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  • Darth Vader:

    Dear ewok tan,

    Here’s how this works. You, the government, work for us, the taxpaying voters. If we decide to let you continue working for us, we re-elect you. If we decide to cast you idiots back into the flames of Mount Doom, deep in the heart of Mordor from whence you came, out you idiots go. It’s as simple as that. And WHY shouldn’t we throw you turds out when you ignore issues of concern to us but care about absolute garbage like preserving 38 Oxley Road? We care about unemployment and underemployment, high costs of living and out of control immigration. We don’t care if 38 Oxley Road stays, gets demolished or burns down completely. And yet a whole valuable session of parliament was wasted on this garbage non-issue that should have bern resolved in court instead

    Oh, and the government’s so-called concern about climate change? ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT! If the government REALLY cared about it then WHY is the carbon wasting F-1 race STILL being staged instead of being cancelled?! And while you’re at it, tell the pink moron to travel by commercial flight and NOT an executive jet! What, the worthless POS thinks he’s too good to travel with lesser mortals or what?! And one more thing: we’re NOT stupid okay?! You think we don’t know “climate change” is just an excuse to collect money through the carbon tax?!

    You know what ewok tan, if you can’t handle the truth like I just laid it out for you, then you should quit public office. I suggest you go become a hobo instead, and get your exercise every day collecting cardboard come rain or shine…

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