Does the PAP give citizenship to maintain the Chinese ratio at 76%

A non Chinese asked for my views about the perceived policy of the PAP to give citizenship to maintain the Chinese ratio in Singapore at 76%.

I do not know if this is a correct reflection of the PAP policy.

My comment is that the PAP government is giving citizenship to too many people, whether Chinese or otherwise. It is a reflection of their poor performance – that they are not able to get the locals to produce enough children.

It is bad to give citizenship to immigrants who do not have to perform the National Service obligation. The local born males have to serve two years of full time and 12 years of reservist duty. They suffer a serious disadvantage compared to male new citizens.

It is a bad government that put this kind of obstacle and disadvantage to its own local born citizens.

My view towards new citizens is that it should be done gradually. The number of new citizens should be restricted to not more than 2% of the resident population in a year. This will not cause a big change in the composition of the population within a short time. The change may occur over a longer period.

The disadvantage faced by the local born males should be reduced by shortening the National Service obligation to one year full time and three year of reservist duty.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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20 Responses to “Does the PAP give citizenship to maintain the Chinese ratio at 76%”

  • Sinkie:

    What is worse than giving citizenship to immigrants who do not have to perform the National Service obligation and making local born males suffer a serious disadvantage?

    It’s giving citizenship to no-served-NS immigrants to lord over true-blue Sinkies – eg Pu Tu Cherry !!

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  • TKL go fly kites:

    I am certainly not voting for TKL even if he will to join PV.

    Why? Because he is certainly no different from the PAPi.

    It is not that the locals are unable to produce enough children. It is the huge financial costs and lack of quality of lives that hinders them to do so. These are the problems that must be resolved seriously and before any ANY attempts to brings in new citizenship to supplement. A responsible government must consider the impact on its own citizens, in terms of good jobs, fair placement for them, quality of lives, social harmony etc….

    I would associate this lack of natality as an indication of the amplitude of failures of the government to build and create a quality of lives for its citizens. New citizens will face the un-conducive brunt of the problems as well. Its not solving the problems but amplifying the problems, diluting and weakening the nationalism of Singaporeans.

    Every Taxes, Tariffs and charges, GST are hikes and hikes and hikes, housing are so expensive, even public housing on public land must pay market price for the land despite is a leash for only 99 years. Its even more expensive than Private Landed Free Hold Properties pro-rated to 99 years.

    Deny them the 2/3 before it is too late to even want to do so. We need new leaders who truly cares for its OWN citizens to bring back the nationalism and new glories, new hopes back for its own.

    Not continue with despairs, sorrows, broken promises, deceits and lies and leading us to nowhere ahead.

    TKL can go fly kites.

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  • Left to australia:

    this defective policy of awarding citizenship.. it creates discrimination by employers who hire people with no NS obligations.For these very reasons of unequal treatment , i migrated out of the island for a better future for my sons. The parnets have to think about these issues hard and decide their voting preference . if they dont think hard their future generation will suffer. The illusionary word called status quo is there to hoodwink singaporeans . In fact there is none there. Pls wake up.

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Foreign Talent Mantra… not “Maranatha” the Evil One recite for fear of DEATH…

    It is “We are the Talent YOU are the Fools”

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  • Asd:

    Think its racism

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  • Lei Sor Hai:

    Increae citizens = grow economy??

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  • Went to Japan:

    A lot of new citizens are from India, Philippines, Myanmar, Vietnam and PRCs….

    PAPPY only cares about the votes, dont care if they serve NS or they know the culture nor the pledge….. or they integrate.

    All they care is they give them our jobs, make them happy, they stay and vote PAPPY.

    No need to keep talking this topic, PAPPY is fixed on 10M, currently half the population are foreign bornt and 50% of our work force are foreigners and we are at 6M already. Can you imagine 7M and 10M?

    VTO is the only way out!!!!

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  • Bobo:

    We are interested in a future not gov by failed systems can or not.

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  • Longan Lee:

    There is severe lack of Transparency.
    So what is there to talk about?

    Transparency is not just disclosing the figures. These figures have to be independently audited to be the truth and not just claims.

    None of us at TOC knows how many China given citizenship, how many Malaysians given it, etc.

    What we may hear or see are claims.

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  • Darth Vader:

    Still pretending to be the people’s champion tkl? Is Singapore handing out citizenships to keep the Chinese population above 75%? OF COURSE THEY ARE!!!! lky ALREADY said DECADES AGO that Singapore’s Chinese population should NEVER drop below 70% or 75%!!!! But you ALREADY knew this long ago don’t you tkl? You SHOULD, because you were still CEO of NTUC Income and a pap cadre member back then! NOBODY remembers you voicing out against it back then! So don’t try to play innocent and act dumb

    For everyone else here, remember these. This asshole tkl has voiced support for communism several times, and the tiongs come from a communist state. tkl is also strongly against one man one vote, something the tiongs are also against. And tkl advocates a communist style election where only members of the ruling party can vote, something the tiongs are familiar with. So do you REALLY think tkl is opposed to large numbers of tiongs migrating here, or is the creep just PRETENDING to empathize with ordinary locals to gain support?

    Think! HOW MUCH can you REALLY trust someone who advocates a one-party state, something that tkl’s support of communism and the communist voting system will inevitably result in?

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  • the hardest truth:

    we’ve been kpkb-ing for decades. it’s totally and completely useless. nothing has changed, nothing will. my projection is they’ll return after this coming GE with a 86 percent mandate. you know it. i know it. save ure breath folks. it’s a gone case. we will continue to be punished for what the majority votes for.

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  • Left to australia:

    Bobo:
    We are interested in a future not gov by failed systems can or not.

    gov by failed systems – present pap..

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  • TruBlu:

    GLOBAL WARMING LIST PLACES SG RIGHT AT THE TOP!

    SAVE MY WORLD or save my a$$?

    SG is a little red dot and its meant to be that way.
    injecting aliens here to boost the population in triple quick time at lightning speed is foolish,to say the least!

    it is suicidal!

    tearing down forestry to build more to accomodate the SUDDEN SURGE IN POPULATION BASE here is simply irrational and unintelligent!

    where is the WISDOM among our super scholars?
    or they dont possess any at all?

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  • Straight "A"s Marlboro Tan:

    Went to Japan:
    A lot of new citizens are from India, Philippines, Myanmar, Vietnam and PRCs….

    PAPPY only cares about the votes, dont care if they serve NS or they know the culture nor the pledge….. or they integrate.

    All they care is they give them our jobs, make them happy, they stay and vote PAPPY.

    No need to keep talking this topic, PAPPY is fixed on 10M, currently half the population are foreign bornt and 50% of our work force are foreigners and we are at 6M already. Can you imagine 7M and 10M?

    VTO is the only way out!!!!

    70% china citizens and 30% other philippines, indian slaves ect to service this new batch of chinese population

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  • Agree:

    @TKL go fly kites

    Chin Swee Road – Kill daughter;
    Woodland – Kill wife and daughter;

    Clear indication cannot afford, desperate ending move.

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  • putu:

    Sinkie:
    What is worse than giving citizenship to immigrants who do not have to perform the National Service obligation and making local born males suffer a serious disadvantage?

    It’s giving citizenship to no-served-NS immigrants to lord over true-blue Sinkies – eg Pu Tu Cherry !!

    How come the govt don’t want to correct this particular issue? That means govt look us voters down? We need to show them our unhappiness.

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  • Harder Truths:

    $G citizenship means nothing when the 50% PR’s and WorkVisa holders from India, China, Pinoy and Indonesia are ruling $G.

    Do you go around asking “Are you from China and do you have $G citizenshit?”. Then you surely can be a Grade A creep.

    Most FT do not want $G citizenshit. Only those that are criminals or garbage collectors where they come from want citizenshit.

    Then again how do you know they do not have dual citizenships?

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  • say say say:

    yet dares to keep repeating that SG is a world dream in terms of multiracialism!
    76% chinese, still saying its a multiracial society?
    how? where?

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  • Rabble-rouser:

    @ Went to Japan, TruBlu:
    PAP’s Population Growth & Infrastructural Spending Policies are really crazy. It will never rhyme with the future! Frankly, they are unsustainable!

    The Global Economy is shifting course towards AI & Machine Learning. Once AI & Machine Learning becomes entrenched, many jobs will no longer exist at least for those routinised work or work that can be automated using Machine Intelligence.

    And with “smart” machines & automation, the human effort & manual labour would become obsolete & redundant. Machines don’t need breaks, rest time nor holidays!

    Also, where will S’pore find the money & the financial resources to import oil, water, sand & food to feed these Population Growth mechanisms? Last I heard:
    * oil has become a volatile commodity;
    * water is getting expensive as S’pore have to resort to energy-guzzling desalination process;
    * sand is getting harder to source as no one seemed to want to sell; &
    * food prices have started to spike upwards due to climate extremities.

    Great Southern Waterfront Development, Jurong Innovation District Jurong Lake District, One North Precinct, Punggol 21 & Digital District, Woodlands Business Precinct, Paya Lebar Office Building Districts – once you see the immense upcoming projects, the considerable opulence & the numbers involved. Can these dreams ever be fulfilled or is it some wishful thinking of pie-in-the-sky dreamer?

    Went to Japan: A lot of new citizens are from India, Philippines, Myanmar, Vietnam and PRCs….

    PAPPY only cares about the votes, dont care if they serve NS or they know the culture nor the pledge….. or they integrate.

    All they care is they give them our jobs, make them happy, they stay and vote PAPPY.

    No need to keep talking this topic, PAPPY is fixed on 10M, currently half the population are foreign bornt and 50% of our work force are foreigners and we are at 6M already. Can you imagine 7M and 10M?

    VTO is the only way out!!!!

    TruBlu:
    GLOBAL WARMING LIST PLACES SG RIGHT AT THE TOP!

    SAVE MY WORLD or save my a$$?

    SG is a little red dot and its meant to be that way.
    injecting aliens here to boost the population in triple quick time at lightning speed is foolish,to say the least!

    it is suicidal!

    tearing down forestry to build more to accomodate the SUDDEN SURGE IN POPULATION BASE here is simply irrational and unintelligent!

    where is the WISDOM among our super scholars?
    or they dont possess any at all?

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  • food for thought:

    a gov which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always depend on the support of Paul.
    (from “everybody’s political—george bernard shaw).

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