SDP’s response to POFMA

Dear Minister Josephine Teo,

We refer to the Correction Notices you sent to the SDP on 14 December 2019. We state our case below.

Post 1:
The SDP article which you refer to dated 8 June 2019 states: “The SDP’s proposal comes amidst a rising proportion of Singapore METs getting retrenched.”

This statement is based on a Straits Times (ST) report “PMETs make up rising share of retrenched locals” (15 March 2019). The report states:

“Professionals, managers, executives and technicians (PMETs) made up about three in four or 76 per cent of the locals – Singaporeans and permanent residents – who were retrenched last year, the highest figure in at least a decade. It rose from 72 per cent in 2017 and is significantly higher than the share of PMETs in the resident workforce, which is about 57 per cent.”

The report includes a figure labelled: “PMETs make up growing share of locals laid off” with MOM stated as its source.

As the said newspaper is a government-controlled newspaper, we have no reason to believe that it would publish fake news about the government. As such, the MOM should take the matter up with the ST. If the ST states that its information, or the interpretation of it, is incorrect, we would be happy to amend our statement correspondingly.

In a separate report by Yahoo! (3 October 2019), DBS senior economist Irvin Seah was quoted, saying: “PMETs continue to form a much larger share of retrenched workers compared to their proportion in the workforce.”

Post 2:
In our infograph posted on 30 November 2019, we made the statement: “Local PMET unemployment has increased”.

In its report “More workers were retrenched in Q1 – here’s why most of them were PMETs”, the Business Insider (13 June 2019) said:

“Retrenchment in Q1 2019 is up from the previous quarter, and most of those who were retrenched were professionals, managers, executives and technicians (PMETs), a report by the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) has revealed.”

Other newspapers such as ST and TODAY also published similar reports.

In the second quarter of 2019, the above-cited Yahoo! report headlined “PMET unemployment in Singapore continues to climb” stated that the “number of PMETs who lost their jobs increased from 1,440 to 1,680, making them the bulk of those retrenched.”

The report also cited Mr Irvin Seah’s comment that the rate of PMETs re-entering the workforce after six months of retrenchment was “persistently much lower”.

Our statement is based on publicly available information cited in the reports mentioned.

Post 3:
In our infograph posted on 2 December 2019, we made the statement: “Local PMET employment has decreased”. This is similar to Case 2. In addition, the low re-entry numbers suggest that the absolute numbers of unemployed and under-employed PMETs would have increased.

Be that as it may, 2019 isn’t over, yet you say that local PMET employment has risen for the year. This raises questions about your conclusion.

Sincerely,

John Tan
Vice-Chairman
Singapore Democratic Party

 

* SDP’s original response is available online here.

 

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32 Responses to “SDP’s response to POFMA”

  • Jialut liao, the porlampar who thought kenna 4D liao can sabo SDP and curry favour the millister neber do homework properly, ended up saboing the millister instead.

    From a layman’s point of view, it appears that SDP had merely summarised what the official mouth pieces had said lor.

    It would be interesting to see if the millister would do a roti prata (inside 200m is not within 200m) in issuing a lame reply or pretend no see no hear and let POFMA stick (forcing SDP to go court) or ownself retract the POFMA.

    With the PAP’s “never say sorry” arrogance, I think the former sibei possible, What do you think?

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  • Serious and Important Matter:

    Firstly, the concerns of the subject is PMET Jobs for Singapore born citizens and these must be qualified foremost. The SDP being the Singaporean Political Party must be talking about its Singapore citizens, the local born Singapore Citizens not PRs. Thus the concern is;

    PMET jobs = for Singapore Citizens!

    Not PMET jobs = Singapore Citizens + FTs + PRs + New made Singaporeans.

    Because in Gov Websites, you see they treated PR as resident population.

    Total population comprises Singapore residents and non-residents. The resident population comprises Singapore citizens and permanent residents

    As the numbers of available PMET jobs are almost the same, thus with the influx of so many FTs, the local must be retrenched to make the net sum balanced.

    Otherwise new PMET jobs must be shown to be created? What sectors? What proportion?

    How many “NEW” PMET jobs in numbers were created “since” from year 2014 onwards [please breakdown sums by sectors]?

    The whole POFMA thing would be wasted if 1 ridiculously paid minister is found to be wrong [talking total sum than caring for citizens]. For this is a very serious and important subject to the People of Singapore and the PAP, the manpower minister cannot be “allowed” to be wrong.

    Thus I say, SDP should insist on to get the answer for Singaporeans. If SDP is right, it will be all glorious day for them in view of the important of the subject.

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  • support SDP for the win:

    PAP seems to be panicking..
    good!
    as Dr chee said “its a mark of an insecure ruling party”.
    spot on!

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  • $300,000 per Day:

    We cannot be allowed to be fooled by uncaring Numbers and by criterion MiloIndianCumMalay and at the back $300,000.00 per day.

    It’s time to be uncaring to them back and Vote for Change.

    Vote for Change so that we can bring the Local Born Singaporeans Dignity back and be re-employed.

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  • Uncaring Party:

    The problem is they can fault you with just 1 single line of “grey”. furthermore SDP didn’t sounds like they refused to comply leh?

    TRE Techie:
    Jialut liao, the porlampar who thought kenna 4D liao can sabo SDP and curry favour the millister neber do homework properly, ended up saboing the millister instead.

    From a layman’s point of view, it appears that SDP had merely summarised what the official mouth pieces had said lor.

    It would be interesting to see if the millister would do a roti prata (inside 200m is not within 200m) and issue a lame reply or pretend no see no hear and let POFMA stick (forcing SDP to go court) or ownself retract the POFMA.

    With the PAP’s “never say sorry” arrogance, I think the former sibei possible, What do you think?

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  • Bapak:

    The SmallSpaceCanMakeLove replies – I don’t care where you get that info. I say you are wrong means you are wrong.

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  • The Truths:

    SDP had quoted from official publications such as ST, DBS etc.

    Now it seems like MOM has been mistaken. Would MOM or the various publications apologize and put on POFMA that they have made a mistake and that it is actually a Fake News ?

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  • Court them:

    Before the coming Election, SDP should court them so that the numbers will be shown and be exposed in Court.

    These also make the People aware of the real situation and our judicial system right before the coming election, lose or win sure net gain gain.

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  • Hakka Nipolean:


    one “does not need much space to have sex”.


    “milk is milk, however fancy the marketing”


    Singapore’s income inequality gap is “a problem of success” that is “difficult to overcome”. But, Professor Tommy Koh pointed out that Singapore’s income profile today “looks more like a pear than an olive”, with a large number of people “at the bottom”, as opposed to the late Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s vision of “a Singapore which resembles an olive – very few very rich, very few poor people, and a very large middle income”.

    Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC – Please don’t let Singapore down!

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  • NotMyProblem:

    That shows Minister Josephine Teo did not read the ST and other publications too, because she doesn’t believe in these publications.

    This also tells you that POFMA Office is trigger happy, even shoot in the dark.

    If this is to continue, POFMA may just backfire. POFMA may just lose its credibility, instead of arbiter of truth it becomes a greatest liar.

    When that happens, blame it on Minister Teo.

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  • Oppositions Up:

    When to exert strength? It is NOW! This is the right time, right moment spark, I’m always talking about.


    All oppositions should group up to share their resources to fight the case in court. SDP to lead in the case.


    Singaporeans have served the country in serving the army. They risked their lives for Singapore. They should be respected and treated with the Toppest-most priorities and respect. Can’t fooled them with numbers

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  • Main issue:

    Main issues are there is still a significant number of local PMET are still unemployed or underemployed.
    Need to do something about it .

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  • Dr. Chan:

    She too busy looking for small spaces to have sex and looking at her bank account.

    But still must pretend to show she is doing work to please Ah Dou. – fixing opposition. Now looks like she is fixing herself.

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  • Independent Audit:

    The statistics have not been independently audited.
    So the Books need to be audited and opened for public inspection to prove the Claims made against SDP is Nothing but the Truth.

    Else any ruling party can say whatever they want if the claims the make cannot be independently audited.

    Is the minister the arbiter of truth or are singaporeans a world laughing stock to aregard minsters as arbiters of truth?

    Are singapoteans wrll-educated fools??

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  • Change We Must:

    I am align with SDP interpretation from the government trusted media.

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    An IDIOT who does not need much room to make babies, but better than the bast**d who kills them through Leegal Abortion

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  • Asd:

    I think as long as all articles are not corrected then they are agreed to be true by the goverment

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  • Merobok:

    Someone in the Ministry of Manpower tried to be smart and Josephine simply accepted the recommendation and kamikaze hoping to stun SDP like what happened to Brad Boyer!
    It just reminded me of what Grace fu and backed by HSK asking for an apology from Sylvia Lim for making a remark on the testing of balloons.
    In both, no homework was done and the open results showed otherwise!
    But this will not be the end. The PAP will now look for a real case to hit hard so as to divert attention and cover their loss of face!
    Will Josephine Teo now hide like an ostrich in the sand or remain quiet like Grace and HSK?

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  • Prof Tommy Koh Warning:

    On 1st October 2019, Prof Tommy Koh had warned the 4G leaders not to force the local angry PMETs to be Grab drivers or else PAPexit will happened after the GE. He must have seen many PMETs losing their jobs to CECA Anehs to give the warning.

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  • it is due to honest mistake:

    //Jialut liao, the porlampar who thought kenna 4D liao can sabo SDP and curry favour the millister neber do homework properly, ended up saboing the millister instead.//

    aiyoh. where got jiatlak ? the white monkey can tekan others (even applying their PLP standard) but their ownself-check-ownself law can excuse themselves ? like dat, the white idiots will always proudly sure win liao ? they are so talented that when the white monkey gang is “wrong”, it is due to honest mistake lor ?

    the reasons why the white idiots need to VO in order to have balance ?

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  • coherent seamless story tellin:

    //That shows Minister Josephine Teo did not read the ST and other publications too, because she doesn’t believe in these publications.//

    with so much white wayang info (different white idiotic publications adopting different reporting styles) circulating here and there with different bases of period and timing, the white monkey idiots probably did not join all the dots properly and give a coherent seamless white monkey story telling ?

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  • Judy:

    Another blooper from JT:

    “At any one time our unemployment rate is maybe about 3 per cent. Now even with a resident workforce of 2.3 million, 3 per cent is still about 60,000 people. So, for 60,000 people to tell you that they haven’t seen the jobs, it’s not so surprising itself. But weigh that against the 97 per cent who are in jobs, you also can reflect their views.”

    Third-world politician has no business to be in a first-world country. Singaporeans deserve better.

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  • oxygen:

    WITHOUT A DOMINANT LOCAL-BORN PMET CONTENT, future generations of Sinkies will all be reduced to peasant slavery.

    FIACKING 70%, YOU JOLLY WAKE UP NOW!

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  • Straight "A"s Marlboro Tan:

    this pOFMa used to crush opposition and critics as stated by many observers out there. Now in a span of a week , it becomes true… But the PAP fcker claims it is not. SO did he falsely claim ?

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  • it is true, pap fears truth!!!:

    Be that as it may, 2019 isn’t over, yet you say that local PMET employment has risen for the year. This raises questions about your conclusion.

    the pap conclusion by pap Cb joetiu is either a lie or an obvious untruth or an obvious pap BS.

    because as we speak, it is still not yet even half December.

    as esteemed SDP has mentioned, 2019 is not yet over. how can pap Cb joetiu say rise when in all truth it has fallen a lot even within eleven months of 2019.

    maybe pap pofma needs to be amended so that we also can citizen POFMA the pap Cb joetiu.

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  • justanothercitizen:

    How do I know that the facts that the government published have no error?
    Base on trust? I cannot trust any party that said they are always correct or right.

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  • Extremely unfair advantage:

    Just for saying rising retrenchment also not tolerated. This is the Singapore the elderlies have given to their children’s generation.

    What a legacy to leave behind them.

    Recently more retrenchment reported by news. So it’s not a far fetched idea to say rising retrenchments.

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  • Extremely unfair advantage:

    The Truths:
    SDP had quoted from official publications such as ST, DBS etc.

    Now it seems like MOM has been mistaken. Would MOM or the various publications apologize and put on POFMA that they have made a mistake and that it is actually a Fake News ?

    So why was ST not given the same letter?

    Singapore is rotting because of the 70%

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  • this is what we must do:

    Extremely unfair advantage: So why was ST not given the same letter?

    Singapore is rotting because of the 70%

    pap as usual will twist and turn words.

    remember.

    INDIAN is malay.

    INSIDE 200m is not within 200m.

    such obvious lies pap can get away with.

    so the same now with pap joetiu and pap MOM.

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  • REGIME CHANGE is the solution:

    Is tightly-controlled MSM telling so many lies they are confusing themselves?

    Another good reason for regime change.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Pappies will say something like

    “..but ST is an independent news outlet. SDP saying it is government-controlled is fake news. Please correct this and apologise. Also SDP need to make sure the figures from ST matches the Truth which we have given separately, If SDP does not come to the Truth which we have given then SDP is lying….”

    Something like that.

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  • George:

    Khaw BW and Tan CJ do not care for Singaporeans, join with SDP and VOTE THEM OUT !

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