Time to rethink our policies on NS?

Since our PAP government likes to talk about globalism and globalization, let us compare university education and the level playing field.

At the age of 18, youths in developed countries such as USA and Australia will be entering universities to pursue their educations. By contrast, our boys of age 18 are sent to 2 years of national service conscription.

Sure, the PAP can argue that in youths in countries such as Israel also have a National Service duty. However, Israel puts its own citizens first for employment opportunities and does not import labour or have a mass inflow of immigration like Singapore.

Our boys are already at a 2-year disadvantage when competing on a global level with peers from other decloped nations, without even factoring in the further next 10 cycles of reservist obligations.

We really need to have critical thinking into these issues and policies to potentially change course for a better future.

 

Prabu Ramachandran

 

 

 

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29 Responses to “Time to rethink our policies on NS?”

  • Just Kick Them Out:

    NS is meaningless now.

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  • Curious:

    Critical thinking is a completely foreign concept to the PAP.
    In fact, just thinking is a process they do not appear to
    understand….
    ummm are we allowed to think at all??? i notice those who do
    are heavily criticised. Some even get taken to court

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  • Singapore Fooled Again n Again:

    Males are packed off for NS and then reservist in their prime youth and working life. It was 2 and a half year previously and was 3 years NS last time and reservist for 13 years, now cut a bit due to the noise from the public.

    More hurt are foreigner students are given places to study in the Pre-U, Unis all paid for by public funds and then after they graduate, a job.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Mr Prabu

    You miss the point there needs to be people to do the dirty jobs such as NS and pay for CPF/HDB when they get older. It is so easy to put $G locals into NS and make them third-class for the rest of their lives.

    FT are advertised by the leeders as smart, cheap and plentiful – with loads and loads of (fake) degrees from foreign lands and who can take on local jobs and run companies it seems without any real education.

    But the best part of the story is that a large part of those that served NSF and NSR also vote for the people who ruined their livelihoods.

    No offence, but you are flogging a dead horse. As Kenneth said – the locals got what they voted for,

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  • Bapak:

    Don’t just lose to foreigners, our boys also lost to our girls. When they start work after NS the girls are two years ahead earning more money. No wonder nowadays girls talk so big. Boys ended up being henpecked at home.

    High time to start The Man’s Chartered Acts to protect our boys.

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  • opposition dude:

    Since PAP loves to compare then does anyone know how both South Korea and Taiwan treat their boys after NS?

    Of course the NS policy has to be updated, this isn’t 1959 anymore. For a start stop saying that it’s a duty to the nation, people don’t care about that anymore. Who doesn’t want to siam NS if they can after all?

    Second, make all new citizens serve reservist. No exceptions whatsoever. You become a citizen you serve in the army, no such shit as not even contributing to our defence. Since PAP loves saying we are small and vulnerable plus with a low birthrate then it’s stupid to not have all these new citizens serve.

    Third, pay all recruits what they are worth. The majority either have a diploma or an A level certificate. If they were out there looking for real work instead of being cheap SAF labour they would be earning market rate pay and not some shit disguised as a mere “allowance”. Those days are gone already so stop living in the past PAP!

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  • Dr. Chan:

    Amos Yee slapped Ah Loong in face, ran to USA and siam NS. I admire his style at first. I believe all male Singaporeans can follow his example.
    But now he in USA, stir trouble – talk nonsense about pedophiles is ok. Sad.

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  • TruBlu:

    NS for DAFT sinkies,JOBS FOR FTs???

    well,NS will be a joke once our population has 50/50 locals vs ALIEN$$$?

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  • Marimuthu Rengansamy:

    Bapak:
    Don’t just lose to foreigners, our boys also lost to our girls. When they start work after NS the girls are two years ahead earning more money. No wonder nowadays girls talk so big. Boys ended up being henpecked at home.

    High time to start The Man’s Chartered Acts to protect our boys.

    Only lousy men need the protection of Man’s Chartered Acts.

    NS provides opportunities to pickup new skills which are not available in the ivory towers.

    No girls could henpeck NS toughened men with killer’s mentality and excellent problem solving skills. I have not seen men who have no problem with NS being henpecked by ladies!

    Ha ha ha ha ha…..

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  • Got NS, No Need WDS:

    NS train you to be giddymen. Train you sweep floor, wash toilets, clean raods, make beds, carry heavy things (delivery men), go dump rubbish at incinerators etc.

    No need for WDS, re training nonsense. NS already trained cleaners, sweepers, dun waste money.

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  • pap follow the leader culture:

    from pap kindergarten to so called world class local Us nus ntu smu, 70% sheep children are trained not to stick out like a different thumb but just to follow the pap laws so that nothing stands out.

    just study hard past year exam series PSLE and learned by rote model answers to A level 10 year series. BS a little during pap scholarship interviews.

    voila, get paid to study beyond so called world class local Us in UK and USA. a truly great education. because not on pap syllabus.

    alas. once the well educated, finally, comes back, they are put into the pap follow the leader machinery. they look at all the permanent secretaries. all yes men yes women not a single one standing up or standing out. even S$156 owed can withhold PSLE results slip not a single once truly well educated in UK USA said a single word, No.

    every so called pap Lj and pap Cb, now in the end, play the watch the pap leader game. if the leader, liar though he is, is the same caliber the same time as lky, so okay although not optimum.

    but when the pap leader is just clown, one of many kinds, habis lah. all follow the naked ape and his ape woman.

    where got hope.

    so the same with NSF in now alien invaded Singapore. like the S$156 school fees owed case, every pap Lj and every pap Cb say it is tradition for NSF for local born 70% sheep sons.

    we did ours years ago. at least the 1st gen pap leaders were fairly fair. but not today under pap S$m thieving system approved by pap pliant parleement.

    defend who? defend what? but not all is lost. as soon as New Government forms by a better group of local born citizens, all current pap wrongs can be righted.

    this is the only way. there is no other way.

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  • RDB:

    All living in Sg pay and pay to pay until broke. Do you relate and know the second one? Every time you you need water or electricity, remember this one you are increasingly being charged higher and higher fees and levies.

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  • Not Pay CPF to serve!!!:

    Every year the budget allocated to MinDef is the highest.
    But our NS men are not paid to slave for this cuntry.
    WHY???

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  • Daft Singaporeans:

    Bro,
    if there is no NS, who is going to organise National Day Parade to impress the FT, PRs and New citizens ?

    These are the only bunch of people attending NDP nowadays, not forgetting the unties and uncles, who attend to enjoy free chicken rice at the parade, sponsored by PA at all Community Centres.

    Besides, CECA sponsored FTs can enjoy Singapore without doing NS, when our boys giving their blood, sweat and lives to please the Govt. Sad state of affairs.

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  • Bapak:

    Should one take a good look at the crowd gathering videos at Lucky Plaza accident, primary school kids will know our BS PAPigs big talks on Total Defense is a failure. They would not be able to contain all the foreigners in our mist.

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  • many "proud to serve":

    ns is a “waste of time for our young boys” putting in context with 6.9m and 10m open-leg policy ? in the past (70s to 90s), at least ns was justifiable and the kind of social contract at that time made many “proud to serve” ?

    surely you would see many young FT people (barely after the ns going age) on PR / or some other passes and may convert to citizenship after a while and hence escaping ns totally ?

    with the kind of money spent on defence, why not spend it all on professional soldiers rather on the wasteful two-years of indoctrination on “defending” a country or more like defending the white idiotic one-party-carry-funtion (or like security guarding for a tourist attraction) when almost half of the population is due to 6.9m or 10m open leg policy ?

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  • lying pap S$m thieving liars:

    TruBlu:
    NS for DAFT sinkies,JOBS FOR FTs???

    well,NS will be a joke once our population has 50/50 locals vs ALIEN$$$?

    aliens have crossed the 45% mark.

    50% is just a matter of months away.

    70% sheep truly WTF.

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  • Vote for Change:

    The army is outnumbered by the numbers of [FTs, PRs, NCs] 2 over millions.

    Patriotism in you, then vote for Change.

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  • Bapak:

    This is not about being lousy men. This is unfair old policy that is one-sided. Girl could not phsically bully toughened men but their Woman’s Chartered Acts would easily set you back by the thousands or millions. You haven’t seen man being handhecked? Look no further, he went on leave.

    Marimuthu Rengansamy: Only lousy men need the protection of Man’s Chartered Acts.

    NS provides opportunities to pickup new skills which are not available in the ivory towers.

    No girls could henpeck NS toughened men with killer’s mentality and excellent problem solving skills. I have not seen men who have no problem with NS being henpecked by ladies!

    Ha ha ha ha ha…..

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  • RR:

    I m in my 50s, but this is issue has always been on my mind when I was doing my NS until now. I cannot understand why no one in this little island has pointed this out until NOW!. Maybe, they r all beyond hope liow.

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  • one grain of green bean:

    //No girls could henpeck NS toughened men with killer’s mentality//

    toughened men ? killer mentality ? white idiots will devise rules (one man assembly) to shrink the size of toughened men’s gonads to match the size of one grain of green bean lar ???

    that is why the white idiots and gang need GOKAR for purposes best known to themselves ?

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  • such important issues / polici:

    //I m in my 50s, but this is issue has always been on my mind when I was doing my NS until now.//

    aiyoh. the white monkey idiots via 151th media standard has never REALLY brought up many such important issues / policies (6.9m or 10m open-leg policy and all the wayang statistics) that by right NEED to be known, ‘discussed’ & ‘debated’ by the people and which may affect how we view them ?

    put it this way, the white idiots only think of ‘themselves’ and would try to keep many daft sinkies as daft as possible ?

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  • Went to Japan:

    Few things that make NS meaningless:

    1. Sons of first generation PR/new citizens: Mostly avoided NS

    2. Foreigners imported during their teens fully funded by govt also avoided NS and got their PRs and new citizenships after bypass NS liability age.

    3. Singapore sons graduating from polys and universities are now taking more than 12 months to land jobs, some jobless for years.

    4. Locals are now discriminated into third class in their backyard. Defend foreigners and white party?

    70% endorsed this policy. How ah?

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  • Financially Speaking:

    War is presently fought on economic terms (economic sanctions, false flag incursions, media campaigns, trade wars, debt diplomacy) & on cyberspace (hacking, data theft & breaches, espionage).

    The need for NS & reservist training should be changed & revamp for modern day warfare eg. drone pilots, white hat hackers & economic hitmen.

    For those who haven’t heard of “economic hitmen”, please read John Perkins’s book “Confession of an Economic Hitman”. Since Post-WW2, the Developed Economies have adopted Economic Slavery as an alternative to fighting World Wars over vital resources.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man

    Also, war is the easiest to automate re: using robots, drones & guided targets. With AI, war could be conducted much like SKYNET in the Terminator film series.

    Why is S’pore still stuck under conventional warfare thinking? Saudi Arabia oil installations were struck by drones like those depicted in the movies, “Angel Has Fallen” & “Spiderman: Far From Home”. Life imitates Art, not the other way around.

    No wonder S’pore is behind the curve ball in terms of creativity & innovations. S’pore minds are so rigid & unimaginative! True or not?

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  • @ Dr Chan:

    Incase your memory lapses or you nitpicking , Amos Y … Pedophilia !

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  • NotMyProblem:

    TruBlu:
    NS for DAFT sinkies,JOBS FOR FTs???

    well,NS will be a joke once our population has 50/50 locals vs ALIEN$$$?

    We are already there. UN’s estimated in 2018, 46% of SG population is aliens. Of the 54% true blue SG, not all are eligible to vote, whereas all the 46% aliens are of voting age.

    Just taking only voters, we would have more alien voters than true blue voters. Bukit Batok proved this.

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  • Pioneer:

    Pls pay full-time NSmen monthly salaries with CPF contributions/gratuities like what regular soldiers are paid. Paying pittance NS allowances of $60 and then $90 p.m were during my early NS years, although there are increases now but still inadequate. Paying present & future NSmen their regular soldiers’ salaries is the right direction as they are 2 years behind women. Women do not do NS and are 2 years ahead of men in terms of full employment salaries, cpf, length of service, promotion wise, etc. If they want equal treatment, then all 18-years old females to be enlisted into full=time NS.

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  • Bespectacled Soldiers & NSmen:

    Defence budget should provide
    free LASIK for bespectacled soldiers
    and NSmen from all uniformed groups.

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  • 6pack NSFs:

    What a greater irony to brag about having 6-pack NSFs only to see them wear glasses or contact lenses in their day-to-day rigid training and duties.

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