SDP Calls on Josephine Teo to Retract Correction Directions and Apologise, Cite MOM’s Own Statistics to Prove She’s Wrong

The SDP calls on Minister for Manpower Josephine Teo to retract the POFMA Correction Directions she issued to the party on 14 December 2019 and issue an immediate, unambiguous and public apology over the matter.

This is because the SDP’s statements in the three posts which the Minister cited are, in fact, true and correct.

The problem lies with the fact that MOM had accused the SDP of making statements that we did not make or cited different sets of data which it then used to accuse the SDP’s post as false. This is an abuse of POFMA.

No increase in local PMET unemployment?

An example is Ms Teo citing our post which had an infographic stating: “Local PMET unemployment has increased” (emphasis added). The Minister labelled this as false.

In its Correction Direction, MOM said that we had referred to the fact that “Local PMET retrenchment has been increasing” (emphasis added). Our FB post clearly said “unemployment” but MOM changed it to “retrenchment” – two different subjects – and then accused us of making a “false statement of fact”.

Contrary to Ms Teo’s allegation, our statement is absolutely true. Based on MOM’s own data, it is clear from Figure 1 below that the number of unemployed local PMETs between 2010 and 2018 has indeed been rising. Linear regressional analysis produced a best-fit line through the data points indicated by the red line. The rising trend is clear and unmistakable.

MOM substituted our word “unemployment” in our post to “retrenchment” and then accused us of posting a falsehood. This is clearly an abuse of the law.

Proportion of what?

Another problem that Ms Teo cited is the SDP”s post about the “rising proportion of Singapore PMETs getting retrenched.” This is a factual statement which referred to local PMETs getting retrenched as a proportion of all local retrenched workers.

This result was widely published by the media citing MOM’s figures (see Straits Times and Yahoo! reports).

However, Ms Teo cited a different statistic in her Correction Direction: Local PMETs retrenched as a proportion of all local PMET employees. She then said that this data did not show a rising trend and labelled the SDP’s statement as false.

As one can see, the SDP’s post and MOM’s statement are based on two separate and distinct sets of information – both of which are true depending on which denominator is used.

How can the MOM choose a different statistic and then use it to say that the SDP’s post contains “false statements of fact”? Again, this is an abuse of POFMA.

No rising retrenchments?

The MOM went further to say: “There is no rising trend of retrenchment, whether amongst PMETs or otherwise.” (see here) Is this statement true? Figure 2 below, using MOM’s own data from 2010, shows clearly that there is in fact a rising trend of PMET retrenchments in Singapore.

POFMA used to promote PAP’s interests

POFMA’s stated intention is to prevent deliberate online falsehoods, not disagreements over the use of statistics.

For example, Mr Barack Obama was accused of being born in Kenya, not the United States and, therefore, ineligible to be president. Such a statement is demonstrably true or false, either he was born in the US or not.

If after seeing the birth certificate – as Mr Obama subsequently produced showing that he was born in Hawaii – and his accusers continue to insist that he was born in Kenya, then it can be reasonably said that the offenders are deliberately spreading a falsehood.

In this present case, however, the three SDP’s posts which Ms Teo cited cannot, by any stretch of the imagination, be considered falsehoods, let alone deliberate ones. First, MOM accused the SDP of saying things that we did not. Second, the Minister used different sets of data from the SDP. It does not follow that its statements are true and the SDP’s false. If the SDP’s posts are considered falsehoods, then MOM itself would be similarly guilty with reference to its statements.

MOM’s selective presentation of statistics is unworthy and its lack of intellectual rigor is regrettable. A student presenting such work would get an F grade.

For POFMA to have legitimacy, the Minister must apologise

As such, we categorically reject Ms Teo’s Correction Directions. Clearly, the MOM has used the law for political-partisan purposes to stymie legitimate criticism of the PAP’s foreign PMET policy that has been and continues to be unfair to Singaporeans. That the general election is not far away makes our case even more salient.

The growing problem of retrenchment and job uncertainty facing Singaporeans especially among Singaporean PMETs is a very real and pressing one. Denying that the problem exists only delays finding a solution.

If POFMA is to have legitimate authority going forward, then Ms Teo must apologise to the SDP. Accusing a party of making “false statements of fact” is a serious matter and should be done only with the highest of standards and irrefutable evidence.

Under such circumstances, we call on the Minister to not only retract the Correction Directions but also issue an immediate, unambiguous and public apology to the SDP and undertake not to make such similar acts in future, failing which we will be obliged to pursue the matter in a court of law.

 

Singapore Democrats

 

 

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32 Responses to “SDP Calls on Josephine Teo to Retract Correction Directions and Apologise, Cite MOM’s Own Statistics to Prove She’s Wrong”

  • REGIME CHANGE is the solution:

    PAP (like LKY) never apologizes and/or never admit they made a mistake because of their hubris. That is why Singapore needs REGIME CHANGE. Throw out “spent force” PAP during the coming GE.

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  • Starting the NY with a bang:

    SDP looks absolutely correct loh.

    How? Minister to issue new POFMA over her old POFMA?

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  • Think out of the Ballot BOX:

    Erosion of good governance.
    TCB is right!

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  • Yes, she must apologize:

    REGIME CHANGE is the solution:
    PAP (like LKY) never apologizes and/or never admit they made a mistake because of their hubris. That is why Singapore needs REGIME CHANGE. Throw out “spent force” PAP during the coming GE.

    lky is 1st generation. most of those lied to including the liar himself have died or are dying.

    now today 2020 Internet age. joe tiu besides not same lying caliber as lky, also not much meat aka substance.

    all in, she must apologize. this blatant showing of jumping the pofma gun sure is a world class example of why no sure win for any political which is lying all the time.

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  • Who can trust PAP anymore?:

    [If what you said is correct] then;

    If you can’t use POFMA to charge her, then can you use other laws to charge her, example willful misconduct tantamount to abuse of power in performing her role thus putting Singaporeans into disadvantage and in harms way with her erroneous mistakes/data, thus misleading everyone.? Based on what you said, isn’t this an unfits to be in her role? Make a civil complain to the court.

    Seriously, its not a matter of just apologizing as such mistake will create wrong policies jeopardizing a lot of citizens livelihoods. This cannot be acceptable in view that citizens are made to pay for the best of the best which apparently if you are right, then she’s not.

    SDP should take the lead to make a civil complain.

    But per Khaw Boon Wan standard, I think harikiri a bit too much. Maybe she should resign herself. With such mistake, who can trust PAP anymore.?

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  • Under such circumstances, we call on the Minister to not only retract the Correction Directions but also issue an immediate, unambiguous and public apology to the SDP and undertake not to make such similar acts in future, failing which we will be obliged to pursue the matter in a court of law.

    My layman understanding is that the judge has very limited powers granted under the POFMA and can only decide to retract or not the POFMA directive. The Judge cannot decide or rule which party is correct or wrong in facts.

    The judge may retract the POFMA directive based on some technicality and SDP would still be deemed to have published “fake news”. In addition, a political party technically cannot sue for slander or defamation, so no other legal possibility for SDP, why waste precious time and energy better spent elsewhere.

    My take on this whole fiasco is SDP better off go buy 4D than having the “sex in small space” expert to apologise.

    At least 4D still got chance to strike, get THE PARTY to apologise is wishful thinking. Where in history got see THE PARTY apologise for anything, maybe only during GE to win “sorry lor” votes? THE PARTY never will say sorry and will issue another BS Wayang rebuke in the line of “within is not inside 200m”.

    I am be wrong, so please feel free to correct me.

    .

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  • Bobo:

    See who is her master first. Which minister dare to apologise without looking at the boss’s face? An apology to opposition should never happen at all cost. Only they can tell oppos to recuse before the appeal date and only they can question about integrity and accountability to oppos. Only they can sue ordinary citizen so what say have you got?

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  • TruBlu:

    she is a seasoned FAKE NEWS BROADCASTER.
    MILK-IS-MILK ?

    PMD no problem on footways?

    how come its always the ordInary sgs who get screwed or hurt by those DAFT POLICIESof the PAPple?

    oh yes,they live rather ISOLATED LIVES IN IVORY TOWERS FREE FROM ALL THE HAZARDS THAT COME FORM THEIR STOOPID POLICIES!

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  • TruBlu:

    FIRSTLY,WHY DO WE EVEN NEED TO GUESSTIMATE IF OUR STATS ARE GIVING US ALL A TRUE PICTURE OF SGS VS NON-SGS,BE IT IN POPULATION STATS OR LABOUR STATS???

    WHY LUMP NON-SGS WITH SGS AS ‘RESIDENTS’???

    FARK STATS ARE MEANT TO BE USED WITH MORE INTEGRITY UNLESS WE WANT TO CON THE PEOPLE?

    SGS ARE ABLE TO GRASP REAL STATS,SO NO NEED TO FURNISH FAKE ONES?

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  • Asd:

    Let’s see how much further the shameless will go

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  • @Asd

    “Shame” and “Sorry” are words you don’t find in the PARTY’s dictionary.

    I reckon there is an internal PARTY’s memo that direct that any political appointees that feels shame and say sorry will be removed from the party. lol

    .

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  • The Other Hard Truths:

    Starting the NY with a bang:
    SDP looks absolutely correct loh.

    How? Minister to issue new POFMA over her old POFMA?

    Wakaka! Ownself POFMA Ownself lor…

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  • opposition dude:

    Thing is, SDP kuai kuai corrected their earlier posting which means they admitted to whatever shit MOM was accusing them of. After going through everything SDP says MOM used “retrenchment” instead of “unemployment”. Why didn’t SDP see this earlier leh wah lan eh.

    Second, SDP says MOM used different statistics. Why didn’t SDP say this when MOM asked them to correct their posting back then?

    It’s tough to side with SDP on this because they corrected their postings, kept quiet until now and then want madam no need for a large place to screw to issue an apology.

    Knowing how well PAP operates, does SDP really expect an apology from either MOM or auntie Teo?

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  • Just remember to VTO:

    If she doesnt publish an apology , SDP should just sue!
    Just like what they love to do to ordinary penniless natives.
    Cant tahan the whole circus of clowns we got for our gov.
    Yet we taxpayers are paying them mil$ salaries.
    Something is sooo very wrong.

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  • Just asking:

    Was or is her husband given a CEO position?

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  • VTO:

    SDP, please don’t expect Joe to reply so soon.

    She may be busy practising and perfecting her sex-in-small-place mantra.

    It’s her 2020 resolution to proof her mantra works, despite the wave of criticism she had received when she first introduced her mantra to increase our dwindling population.

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  • Change We Must:

    MOM is abusing the POFMA. Please be clear that disagreement of using different statistical data is very different from fake news. I standby SDP.

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  • no worries, just vote OPPO:

    opposition dude:
    Thing is, SDP kuai kuai corrected their earlier posting which means they admitted to whatever shit MOM was accusing them of. After going through everything SDP says MOM used “retrenchment” instead of “unemployment”. Why didn’t SDP see this earlier leh wah lan eh.

    Second, SDP says MOM used different statistics. Why didn’t SDP say this when MOM asked them to correct their posting back then?

    It’s tough to side with SDP on this because they corrected their postings, kept quiet until now and then want madam no need for a large place to screw to issue an apology.

    Knowing how well PAP operates, does SDP really expect an apology from either MOM or auntie Teo?

    bro, a little bit on your post.

    1st, according to pap POFMA, must do what it says.

    then, only can counter.

    it is not like refuse to do and then can. no. pap POFMA says must respond their way first, then can counter.

    SDP is working per pap POFMA sop. SDP responded 1st, now countering. yah. sure is silly. but it is pap fixing method. so must play along with pap fixing method.

    just like many say WP no talking in pap parleement. truth is, pap fixed the process via its own speaker. so much so want to ask one question also probably not allowed since parleement is pap controlled. so many pap PA paid IBs lie saying WP not talking in parleement. truth is, parleement process, like POFMA process, is fixed by pap to ensure only the best of best OPPO dares to counter.

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  • Anonymous incognito:

    SDP NEEDS To be utterly ruthless. They have to play to win. So personally sue the minister and challenge the law. Keep the pressure so the mediocre grey men are forced to constantly use POMFA and discredit it in the public’s mind.
    The honorable loser mentality stops now

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  • would be accepting the rules:

    //SDP is working per pap POFMA sop. SDP responded 1st, now countering. yah. sure is silly. but it is pap fixing method. so must play along with pap fixing method.//

    hahaha. spot on ? indirectly one would be accepting the rules (stacked against one) by playing by them ?

    and if the white monkey idiots can make a more visible oppo target do what the latter has been asked to do, then it will be chicken feet to deal (precedent already set right ?) with all the other lesser mortals ???

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  • guaranteed to fail:

    Anonymous incognito:
    SDP NEEDS To be utterly ruthless. They have to play to win. So personally sue the minister and challenge the law. Keep the pressure so the mediocre grey men are forced to constantly use POMFA and discredit it in the public’s mind.
    The honorable loser mentality stops now

    would be accepting the rules:
    //SDP is working per pap POFMA sop. SDP responded 1st, now countering. yah. sure is silly. but it is pap fixing method. so must play along with pap fixing method.//

    hahaha. spot on ? indirectly one would be accepting the rules (stacked against one) by playing by them ?

    and if the white monkey idiots can make a more visible oppo target do what the latter has been asked to do, then it will be chicken feet to deal (precedent already set right ?) with all the other lesser mortals ???

    najib and wife had agc cpib spf bank negara under their thumbs. not until after GE14 when Dr Mahatir toppled najib and wife could the agc cpib spf bank negara chiefs be changed and najib and wife thereafter indicted.

    pap clown and wife also have agc cpib spf bank negara directly under their thumbs. it is to ensure no clan member usurp is ever possible since agc cpib spf bank negara no listen to any other but pap clown and wife.

    so what choice does SDP have? revolt? with what? under what method?

    other than using pap laws to fight pap, what is there to use? 70% sheep votes?

    sure. if 70% sheep votes OPPO, voila, what is happening to najib and wife shall happen to pap clown and wife too. alas. GE14 already happened. but GE2020 not yet.

    so, SDP fault for using pap laws to fight pap? if not, what is there to use, meaning that can overcome pap clown and wife agc cpib spf bank negara chiefs and their cronies? what is there for SDP to use?

    there is nothing but the pap fixing laws.

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  • Falsehoods & Coverups:

    Let’s put the slimy saga into perspective with the acid test:

    Honest to goodness me, what’s Ho Ching & Hsien Loong earning as top dogs of Temasek & GIC?

    The prime objective of government fiscal transparency is such that fake speculations from the citizenry can find no fertile ground to nurture themselves. That’s rock bottom democratic ethics on which your legal devices must derive their legitimacy.

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  • opposition dude:

    no worries, just vote OPPO: bro, a little bit on your post.

    1st, according to pap POFMA, must do what it says.

    then, only can counter.

    it is not like refuse to do and then can. no. pap POFMA says must respond their way first, then can counter.

    SDP is working per pap POFMA sop. SDP responded 1st, now countering. yah. sure is silly. but it is pap fixing method. so must play along with pap fixing method.

    just like many say WP no talking in pap parleement. truth is, pap fixed the process via its own speaker. so much so want to ask one question also probably not allowed since parleement is pap controlled. so many pap PA paid IBs lie saying WP not talking in parleement. truth is, parleement process, like POFMA process, is fixed by pap to ensure only the best of best OPPO dares to counter.

    Thanks bro for your insight, it’s always good to read others’ opinions on a topic.

    True, PAP is sibeh the kuai lan and if you don’t comply you would be in serious trouble. But what I don’t understand even now is why SDP took so long to whack MOM. It’s 2 weeks since they got the POFMA and only now did they sit down and go through everything and say MOM used retrenchment instead of unemployment.

    I mean, you don’t take 2 weeks to go through everything and then happy happy ask MOM plus no need for sex in a large place to say sorry right?

    But whatever it is, I’m now just waiting to see how this plays out.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Maybe the pappies will say “Hey look! We have 40 000 Grab drivers now! That;s great for your pizza delivery right? Why complain?”.

    Perhaps 70% will agree.

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  • Great Asia:

    Unemployed and under-employed PMETs issues have been around for more than 10 years, PAP monkeys are still slumbering.

    Many unemployed and under-employed PMETs already retired or reached their retirement age in the past 15 years.

    With a monkey son of Lee Kuan Yew leading a team of monkeys, we’ll face a lot more challenges in the years to come.

    Ha ha ha!

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  • Great Asia:

    Look at figure 2, started from 2010 it was 5 per 1000 PMETs, since then the graph has never dropped to equal or below the 5 per 1000 lowest point.

    PAP fat cats are all liars.

    Ha ha ha!

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  • Democratic Constitution:

    Democracy has its iconic tenets. Removing or amending any of its iconic tensts n still claims the nation to be democratic n ruled under a Democratic Constitution is a criminal act irerasable thru ages n liable to prosecution even after death as long as his succeeding generation enjoys the fruits of the criminal acts.
    Singapore claims herself by the power therebe in United Nation n internationally as a Democractic nation governed under Democratic Constitution. But the iconic tenets including freedom of speech n expression n the media , separation of power, n importantly the fouling factor of justice including the appointment of judicial position incurring conflict of interests r defied completely by their removal using their absolute power hence incurring abuse of power of putting those in power above the laws, betraying their oath of office vowed on their individual religious faith. These r under democratic constitution r impeacheable crimes n criminal punishment. The very fact that these do not happen coupled with repeated legal successful punishment of citizen adverse criticism indicative of curtailed freedom of speech, another icon democractic tenet n a definitive evidence supporting the uncontested legally allegations of compliant bureaucracy by Mr Lee HY n Miss Lee WL, both children of late PM, SM, MM n a founder member of PAP. In accordance to a tripartite public declaration of Lee KY, Goh CT n Lee HL that any such defaming allegation should be defended n cleared in a Court of Laws n if not the citizenry can take these allegation as factual n the accused should facebthe necessary judicial consequences.
    These r evidences that will remain in national records for as long as Singapore remains as a nation!

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  • SIN dual legal system:

    The latesr MND order on AHTC is yet another definitive evidence in Singapore political history that
    Democratic Nation (UN classification) Singapore under PAP, claiming to govern under Democratic Constitution, but essentially governing with trio legal systems, one for PAP n its members n family, one for ordinary citizens n the third for opposition parties n any advlerse critics, citzens inclusive, of PAP Govt. The appointment of the personal lawyer to the position of Attorney General of AGC, n that of the appt of the wife of a lesser minister to the position of Audior General of AGO are definite violation of the Constitution n Laws of the Land but the judicial executive branch remain passive n beholden to such abuse of power substantiates the trio legal systems. The business transaction between AIm, a PAP company n PAPTC as the only tenderer after undisclosed grounds of withdrawal of the other tenderers n no tender was recalled went unprosecuted by the judicial executive branch is yet another example. The legal persecution of citizen critics of PAP ministers n Government leading to enforced f the allegers with the general the wiser of why the allegations were groundless is yet sustantiation of the trio legalsystem. The latest allegation of Compliant Bureaucracy by LHY n LWL were not contested as declared jointly by LKY, GCT n LHL should be taken as true but a quote by a citizen critic was persecuted n accepted by the judicial executive branch openly defying the declaration of the three PMs of Singapore strongly justified Singapore is governed by PAP under fake democracy n according to the recent fake laws should therefore be prosecuted. In conclusion PAP government governs in wharever they desired n trashed their sworn Oaths n faith!
    Its time Singaporeans demand the return of our Democratic Constitution for its full effects n not be demeaned by greedy n traitorous operators. Singaporeans should remove PAP by voting them out upon Democratic Constitution procedure, remove compliant bureaucracy n effecting democratic prosection of Democratic Constitution violators!

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  • most uselss:

    Remember she was just a HR manager and then after befriending Mdm and licking up the…… she took an escalator to the top.

    She is nothing but useless bootlicker.

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  • Empty vessel miw:

    Airhead JTeo said sex needs only space space

    Now aNUS study finds that sinkies women have less desire for xxx.

    So how, airhead should pofma herself mah.

    What do you think?

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  • Bapoktua And 94 jesters:

    u know what.. i always tell people anyone there.. THat leeisland belongs to Lee…. and the people living there do not deserve opposition… its better to for all opposition to close down and u will see the 0% begging for opposition to come… wait and see..sometimes its better to deprived the stupid 70% of privilege called opposition so that they can come to their senses.

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  • George:

    Khaw BW and Tan CJ does not care for retreched Singaporeans, vote for change and VOTE THEM OUT !

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