Forum writer: Breaking down data can aid public discourse


In the Straits Times Forum on Wed (15 Jan), forum writer Sin Wei Xiang expressed his opinion that stratified employment data for Singapore citizens against permanent residents could contribute to a more “informed public discourse and analyses of the socio-economic issues facing our country”.

Sin disagreed with Senior Minister of State Chee’s earlier argument that “we must firmly reject all attempts to drive a wedge between different groups within our society”, as he drew on the policy examples of various government Ministries in publishing data.

For example, the MOE had published the educational performance of Singaporean students according to the “Chinese-Malay-Indian-Others” racial classification in annual national examinations.

He then quoted former Senior Parliamentary Secretary Hawazi Daipi as saying that the breakdown “enables the respective communities to monitor the effectiveness of their educational programmes… There is also value in providing such information so that the community, ethnic self-help groups and the public can study the data and discuss areas for improvement”.

In addition, Sin highlighted that the national disease registry also “publishes statistics on the incidence of various medical conditions, such as diabetes, kidney failure, heart attack and stroke, among the four major ethnic groups”.

Sin concluded that it was Minister Chee’s argument was a “flawed assumption” as not providing data would not mean that “the divide is not there, especially when the Government itself has put in place policies to differentiate between citizens and PRs, such as for housing, healthcare and education subsidies” and the publication would contribute to a more robust discourse instead.

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23 Responses to “Forum writer: Breaking down data can aid public discourse”

  • opposition dude:

    Chee Hong Tat is another chee hong trying to act smart. If other countries were to publish their workforce numbers of their citizens and PRs would he or any of the donkeys dare say that they are also driving a wedge?

    The reasons are becoming more and more ridiculous when data is being asked for. I await and see what other silly reasons will be given the next time some other data is asked for.

    With these clowns in parliament you can bet that there will be another stupid performance coming up.

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  • TruBlu:

    First must provide data segregrating SGS FROM PRs as PR is of different status from citizen,no one can argue!

    PRs can leave anytime n go back to motherland.
    Sgs live with families here n PRs can cut COL more easily as they need not *CONSUME* high-cost goods here n can share housing costs with fellow PRs?

    Data for different races of sgs have importance but only to reflect the differences in greater details BUT IF YOU ARE JOBLESS N BROKE,WHO CARES WHAT RACE OF CITIZENS YOU ARE?!

    JOBS MUST RETURN TO SGS.OLDER JOBLESS SGS MUST BE OFFERED SOCIAL SECURITY FOR PAST CONTRIBUTIONS.
    LETS STOP ASSIGNING THE NATIONAL BYDGET ERRATICALLY LIKE SQUANDERING ON F1 N FT SCHOLARSHIPS ETC WHEN THE SGS WHO ARE JOBLESS N IMPOVERISHED N CANT EVEN PUT FOOD ON THEIR TABLES.

    KONG HEE FATT CHOT HAS NOW BECOME KONG HEE *FART* CHOY TO MANY AMONG US?

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  • Sinkie:

    It’s like a child with a bad school report card and dare not show his parents, sprouting nonsensical excuses not to show the data.

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  • Bapak:

    Just look at the Lj face you know if he is not a cocksucker but a toessucker. All he know is por-ah,por-ah,por but kepala kosong.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Tell the a**hole we want the $G-born data vs everyone else. Converted Turd-World fakes are not real $G citizens.

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  • Be prepared:

    Even if data is provided, how to verify if its true?
    They even denied the late president ONG TC when he req for some figures.
    Who the hell do they think they are?
    They dont own our SG.
    You 70%s still want to keep these betrayers of sgs in power?
    Think again

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  • Consoling Pritam.... hehehe:

    “I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.”

    - Iron Lady Margaret Thatcher

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  • Boh Kia See:

    The important point here is that the PAP do not want you to know. They do not consider it that you should know these things–information is only for them.

    That is their mentality. The people are simply there to give them money–and don’t ask too many questions or give them a hard time. They deserve their wealth (through heaven’s mandate–not yours). You deserve your misery. So no need to act smart by asking all those questions.

    That is how far they are from reality they are. You think they will identify with your needs and dreams? That would be fantasy. They would expect us to kneel and prostrate ourselves at their feet if trends continue.

    The EBRC is waiting for the courts to fine the three leaders in WP so that they can be disqualified from standing for elections. It will be very convenient for the PAP.

    So citizens should step up and do their own outreach by going block by block highlighting the defective policies of the PAP and the many secrets that they hold about their operations but will readily divulge your personal information publicly when it suits them.

    All this shows that it is time to remove the PAP once and for all.

    VTO–the PAP.

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  • Boh Kia See:

    Public discourse works on the premise that both parties engaged in the discussion are equals. You have your opinion and I have mine.

    That is not the PAP way. The PAP works on the premise that they are superior and we are merely labourers. So no need to have discourse with us. We should not be so bold to even dare ask for a discourse with them, the superior ones.

    All the discussions that the PAP held in the past have always been a propaganda exercise. They will try to convince you about their decisions and are not interested in your views.

    This mentality is becoming more obvious with time.

    We need to VTO them to help them see the world in a proper frame of mind.

    VTO–the only way.

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  • PAP CLOSE DOWN:

    Can we have breakdown of new citizens? Like how many mama etc. Like how many mamas @Jewel.

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  • SG gets what it asked 4:

    Singaporeans he what they asked for.
    Newton’s 3rd law of Thermodynamics has Never been proven wrong AnD it has Always been proven Right, not just never debunked.

    Singaporeans, blur blur boy boy, may say,
    “But what did I do? I never asked to be Far??” Well, they failed to perform their Duty as People of Democracy. The People is what makes or breaks a democracy.

    Singapore is not a democracy because of
    it’s People.

    The People NEVER DEMAND FRO TRANSPARENCY.

    ITS LIKE CHINA CITIZENS. THE BASE ON BELIEVING THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITARIAN RULER.

    Why not base on Audited evidence instead is really mind boggling and suggests either lack of balls or lack of Intelligence, possibly due to brainwashing.

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  • oxygen:

    THE BREAKDOWN FIGURES WILL DEMONSTRATE to what extent the CONVOLUTED AGGREGATE figure distorts and gross perversion of truth and reality that has been going on for so long.

    THAT IS WHY THEY ARE RELUCTANT TO SUPPLY THEM.

    Even the breakdown figures, when released, might be fudged, who knows?

    Be prepared: Even if data is provided, how to verify if its true?

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  • Awaken:

    Election is coming soon
    Wake up all S’poreans!

    VTO or we, local natives , wil either be forced out of jobs or become minority in our own country. This govt wil cause more locals to be jobless & become minority.
    This arrogant egoistic govt has already eroded the S’porean identity (can U identify S’porean anywhere, when we’r surrounded by massive # of mediocre foreign workers ?)
    This govt already erided this country as a home to S’poreans. This country became a house & a hotel for the freakin rich jerks

    VTO !!

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  • REGIME CHANGE is the solution:

    Singaporeans do not need “useful idiots” in Parliament. VTO.

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  • cannot be trusted fully:

    //Even if data is provided, how to verify if its true?//

    when someone or some entity has wayanged too often and worst openly declaring “ownself-check-ownself” while imposing the opposite on others (in short, no reciprocating treatment giving ownself a sure win result ?) ??

    then one needs to have a logarithm (formula) for oneself just like this :- ???

    when white idiots say something (especially policy sensitive to the white idiots knowing that generally the rest of daft sinkies may think differently) = mostly wayang and cannot be trusted fully (or at all) ????

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  • Nothing to hide! Do You?:

    The guy from the Ministry of ERRORS is definitely and conclusively in ERRORS!

    He is merely taking sides with his BoSS!

    In his own ErrorMinistry, results between Chinese, Indians, Malays n others(?) are produced so that the different communities can lead the charge to help or improve the results of th3 various races.

    Similarly, the High Court should allow the CASE between the woman who likes to sleep in tight spots and Sdp be heard in OPEN court since there is NOTHING to hide! Do you?

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  • 西北杜郎:

    贼眉贼眼。 我一眼看过去就知道不是个好人。

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  • Homeless Cat:

    Boh Kia See:
    Public discourse works on the premise that both parties engaged in the discussion are equals. You have your opinion and I have mine.

    That is not the PAP way. The PAP works on the premise that they are superior and we are merely labourers. So no need to have discourse with us. We should not be so bold to even dare ask for a discourse with them, the superior ones.

    All the discussions that the PAP held in the past have always been a propaganda exercise. They will try to convince you about their decisions and are not interested in your views.

    This mentality is becoming more obvious with time.

    We need to VTO them to help them see the world in a proper frame of mind.

    VTO–the only way.

    Indeed. I grow weary of the arrogance and delusions of the PAP. Time for us to take leave of them and their beliefs.

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  • Red ics:

    If citizens are the same as PRs, why did the Government issued red ic cards to citizens n blue one to prs.

    Why don’t they stop issuing any cards?

    This is democracy, huh?

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  • Good for nothing:

    REGIME CHANGE is the solution:
    Singaporeans do not need “useful idiots” in Parliament. VTO.

    So far, what has this chee hong contributed?

    One thing for sure. He really knows how to lick his immediate boss kee chiu’s ding dongs well.

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  • Does it smell Fishy?:

    The AristoCATs are “know-it-all”,
    have no respects of the Peasants !
    -
    Remember the Ballot Box !

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  • hotel access card:

    //If citizens are the same as PRs, why did the Government issued red ic cards to citizens n blue one to prs.

    Why don’t they stop issuing any cards?//

    aiyoh. red is to make daft sinkies feel proud (indoctrinated lar) and privileged (serving NS) lar ?

    blue is to make those getting it that they are as special like red and better off than those not having it lar ?

    when you have 6.9m or 10m open-leg policy, red and blue is just a colour like any colour on a hotel access card lar ?

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  • Lee Gan Yew:

    In this age of DATA ANALYTICS, some zombies still do not disclose data in clarity.

    And the zonkies accept. That’s the bigger problem.

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