The hopeless defence put up by Mr. Ivan Lim means he should step down as a PAP candidate

Ivan Lim

If this is the best defence that Mr Ivan Lim can offer to the accusation that he is arrogant, self-centred and elitist, then his response is completely unimpressive and he should gracefully withdraw, or be withdrawn by the PAP.

As things stand – he is a clear liability to the party on the issue of character – which the PAP has long emphasized as a fundamental part of its ethos.

Why do I say this?

1. Mr Lim took three whole days to put out a reply to the press in writing. If he had a robust defence, he should have called an immediate public conference, addressed his critics and looked all the people of Singapore squarely in the eye and stood up for his own good name, and found people (colleagues, men etc.) willing to stand up for him.

2. Second, his press release brings in his mother – playing the sympathy card. Why drag his own mother into a criticism of himself?

3. He opens with a denial that he was involved in the bribery in Brazil. This is distraction because the essential heart of the accusation against Mr Lim is not corruption but defect of character.

4. He has not denied the basic factual foundation of what has been alleged against him (i.e. he hasn’t said that the incidents were false and made up).

5. His response to the army incidents only deals with the matter of asking men to book in by 2200 hours. This is the easiest claim to respond to. He didn’t for example respond to why an acting Bn RSM in his own unit described him as arrogant and elitist towards the officers and NCOs entering a Bn tentage – saying in effect to his officers and men of lower rank that you don’t belong in my command post. He didn’t respond to the allegation that he regularly flaunted his achievements and flashy car. He didn’t respond to allegations that he kept his whole unit back when he went for drinks only to return to dismiss them half-sloshed. He didn’t respond to the allegation that he called a turn-out in particular because it was his last duty (i.e. suggesting that he did it to show the “power” that he had to do so). He didn’t respond to the claim that he looked constantly to find fault with and charge his men for minor infractions.

6. More generally, if you are the Commanding Officer of a unit, this is a senior position. Mr Lim should have been able to come out *strongly* and say : look, I care about my men, their interests come first to me, I look to build a bond of trust and respect with them so vital for a commander. I have upheld these values throughout my military service. He did not make any strong statement in his own defence of his own character as a senior commander, let alone bring forth men willing to stand up for him.

7. His defence of his record at Keppel seemed equally vague and lame. Basically, all he has said is that the shipping industry is tough and that some people have done well and been promoted under him. Totally general. He didn’t respond at all to the claim of a colleague who said that he resigned and broke a bond because of Mr Lim, and had attended numerous exit interviews (including with named persons).

Conclusion – hopeless defence. Mr Lim should go. Given Mr Lim’s response, the PAP must ask itself – is this the kind of man you want to be your standard bearer? Do you want to bring him in under the coat-tails of a respected senior Minister?

 

Lian Chuan Yeoh

 

* Editor’s note: Ivan Lim has resigned from the PAP and will no longer be fielded by the party in the upcoming pandemic GE 2020.

 

 

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18 Responses to “The hopeless defence put up by Mr. Ivan Lim means he should step down as a PAP candidate”

  • trublu:

    There are countless of *ival lim$* amongst the PAPple in truth.
    This one happens to be more obvious.

    Arrogance n hypocrisy is thick in the PAP eanks,even lowly PAP GRA$$LOOTER$ act like they are *ministars*?

    Many ELITIST TOP N SENIOR CIVIL SERVANTS behave SELFISHLY n even teach their maids bad habits like LITTERING that cause inconvenience to their neighbours such as leaving debris n lityers om the pavements etc m causing sich lottering to affect their neighbours’ premises.These things may sound petty but they cause SOCIAL DISHARMONY.

    ALL THIS BOILS DIWN TO ARROGANCE N ELITIST THINKING,HIGH N MIGHTY CONDUCT?

    THE PAP NURTURES SUCH PAPple and even cindone them until the public pritests???

    Ivan lim happens to be just *suay* to be cayght.
    Many ithers go scot-free?

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  • PAP failed. Again:

    This saga showed the weakness of PAP’s candidate selection process. PAP was “scrapping the bottom of the barrel”.

    Who else “got in” but should really be out? Play safe. Vote Opposition.

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  • Voters, look no further:

    Singaporeans are very strange.

    They look at new candidates with zero tolerance. BUT they tolerate all kinds of nonsense from old candidates.

    That toilet woman – luckily for her, she quit.

    That sia suay cottoned sheep general – 70% still voting for him? No one asking him to quit?

    Many more. No wonder this guy says he found his values match with PAP.

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  • Big-time karma:

    Both Ivan Lim and PAP lost big-time on this fiasco.

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  • F16I-Sufa:

    so from today 28Jun to Monday 29Jun, they have to scrape the bottom again to come out with a replacement for Ivan Lim……Li Hong Yi got chance.

    PAP failed. Again:
    This saga showed the weakness of PAP’s candidate selection process. PAP was “scrapping the bottom of the barrel”.

    Who else “got in” but should really be out? Play safe. Vote Opposition.

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  • John Richards:

    Whistle blowers should have waited until after nomination papers were submitted. That would have embarrassed the PAP tremendously.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    So this Mr. Ivan Lim has become the victim. Bring in father mother in his defence!

    One’s character and DNA cannot be changed.

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  • oxygen:

    WHO IS IVAN LIM’s shoo-in replacement previously not deemed “sufficient” to be placed on PAPpypolitic’s lucrative GRC’s backdoor entry ticket?

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  • John Richards:
    Whistle blowers should have waited until after nomination papers were submitted. That would have embarrassed the PAP tremendously.

    You took the words right out of my mouth! lol

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  • Dead On Arrival (DOA):

    Before nomination day.
    He is already DOA.
    Serve this prick right.
    A warning to the arrogant prick who wants to parachute into parliament. Clean your backside first.

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  • PAP CLOSE DOWN:

    A lot of these army people only know how to bark orders, ba ba bai bai (arrogant) and threaten to charge people if they don’t obey. So people just spit behind thair backs and obey because they don’t have a choice.

    But these motivational tactics is not going to work in aa commercial entity where one has to cater to consumers’ needs and sentiments.

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    John Richards:
    Whistle blowers should have waited until after nomination papers were submitted. That would have embarrassed the PAP tremendously.

    Disagree bro,…the Timing is RIPE!!!…he may act drunk until after the elections…his STEPPING DOWN or resignation as a candidate shows 100% Guilt!!!

    Exposing PAP for what it is…remember Palmer??? disgraced but the PAP is already in POWER

    Had the INDIAN a Palsu Melayu to contest any of the Malays disqualified I am sure she would have LOST!!!

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  • Ah heng is non starter:

    PAP failed. Again:
    This saga showed the weakness of PAP’s candidate selection process. PAP was “scrapping the bottom of the barrel”.

    Who else “got in” but should really be out? Play safe. Vote Opposition.

    Ah heng, ah heng why like that?

    Fumbled trying to fix SL.

    Now, fumble again. Claims selection process rigorous and thorough.

    How come chao ah lim got nominated and quickly kaput and resigns after some allegations.

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  • Desperado:

    So papig are very desperate.
    2011 we had TinPot, now this Ivan.
    Why no good people want to join papigs.
    Look at retiring GohChokTong; versus retiring GohKengSwee.
    One went out with the respect and gratitude of an entire nation; and generations to come.
    The other went out with a shitload of money to Swissland; but people want to send him off with rotten eggs.
    Papigs now have a very rotten reputation–arrogant,dislike, incapable.
    Really SiaSuay for those that join.

    PAP failed. Again:
    This saga showed the weakness of PAP’s candidate selection process. PAP was “scrapping the bottom of the barrel”.

    Who else “got in” but should really be out? Play safe. Vote Opposition.

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  • Dun Bluff Mi U Tink I 2pid?:

    Like what LHY said, pappies screening process of candidates must have gone wrong. Or went from bad to worse. You have part timer MP like Murali not handling his town council properly and a resident died in the fire. How can a fire hosereel be padlocked?!?!?!

    It shows that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Lousy quality. Real people who knew and worked with Ivan Lim dared to come out and expose him. Speaks a lot on his lousy character.

    There is no second chance to redeem himself. You think this is masak-masak? Like what LKY said which I think this quote is very apt to describe this situation:

    “Whoever governs Singapore must have that iron in him. Or give it up. This is not a game of cards. This is your life and mine.”

    On the other hand, quality in the oppo camp has been getting better and better with LHY throwing his weight behind PSP.

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  • The foul guy(s)?:

    Why call out Ivan as arrogant and elitist? The Emperor Dowager and Pappy parliamentarians are arrogant and elitist too what. Sadly for Ivan, he lost the opportunity to become arrogant, elitist and filthy rich like them.

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  • garbage pap:

    HELLO, ITS A GROUPTHINK,,,,

    STARTED WITH LKY…..

    THAT WHY ROTTEN WOOD CAME TO BE…..

    THINK,

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  • Anymore "Ivan Lims" in PAP?:

    After the Ivan Lim fiasco Lawrence Wong claims the PAP selection process is thorough and robust. Really? Then how does he explain the fiasco. Why did PAP select Ivan Lim as a PAP candidate?

    PAP selection process likely involved mainly talking to people who Ivan reported to, i.e., his bosses and some if his peers. Consequently, it only saw one side of Ivan. Most likely PAP never talked to Ivan’s subordinates at work and during NS. So it never got a true and full picture of his character. The rest is history.

    How many more “Ivans” are in the PAP? Actually, it is easy to find out. Have a SIGNIFICANT number of opposition MPs in Parliament to question and debate PAP MPs. Competition is ALWAYS good because it flushes out the “duds” and the “assholes”.

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