MM Lee ‘not quite sold’ on idea of 6.5m population for Singapore

MM ‘not quite sold’ on idea of 6.5m population for Singapore
Li Xueying, Straits Times 2 Feb 08;

He projects optimum size of 5.5m to preserve open spaces and sense of comfort

MINISTER Mentor Lee Kuan Yew ‘has not quite been sold’ on the idea of a 6.5 million population size in Singapore.

Instead, he projects for Singapore an optimum population size of five to 5.5 million for Singapore.

He said yesterday: ‘I have not quite been sold on the idea that we should have 6.5 million.

‘I think there’s an optimum size for the land that we have, to preserve the open spaces and the sense of comfort.’

Mr Lee was speaking at think-tank Institute of Policy Studies’ conference ‘Scenarios for the Next Generation’ which seeks to gaze into the crystal ball and discuss what Singapore will look like come 2030.

Speakers, including Cabinet ministers, academics and journalists, held forth on subjects such as how the economy should evolve, cultural trends, and the Singapore identity.

Over an hour-long dialogue with some 900 participants, MM Lee touched on issues ranging from whether Singapore has the talent pool to sustain a two-party political system to the widening income divide.

One question, posed by the moderator, diplomat Tommy Koh, was whether Singapore is guilty of overbuilding.

A year ago, the Government had announced that it is making plans to accommodate a population of 6.5 million people – up from the current 4.5 million – in the next 40 to 50 years.

This sparked off worries about overcrowding.

Speaking yesterday, Mr Lee said he does not believe that Singapore should go the way of Hong Kong – ‘just solid buildings, one blocking the sunlight of the other’.

The Chinese territory has a population of about seven million.

But while Hong Kong had no choice because it is ‘as they put it so aptly, a borrowed place on borrowed time’, Singapore does, Mr Lee said.

‘We are building on freehold and we are owners, we are sovereign. Therefore, my projection would be for somewhere around five to 5.5 million.’

Coupled with further reclamation, Singapore can then retain its space, the greenery, and ‘the sense of not being crammed, our parks, our connectors, our park connectors, birds, trees, water, canals into streams and so on’.

This is key to how Singapore can be unique, he stressed.

‘What we have done with the Singapore River and the Kallang River from two sewers into recreational areas, we must do with every canal in Singapore. And it will be done within the next 10 years,’ he promised.

This, he added, does not go with ‘a terrific density of population’.

 

* Shared by Lee Hsien Yang on his Facebook page.

 

 

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26 Responses to “MM Lee ‘not quite sold’ on idea of 6.5m population for Singapore”

  • opposition dude:

    No 5.5 million is already too much. We were making so much noise in 2011 when it was 5.11 million back then and you still want 5.5?

    The dead fonder can talk since he never used public transport so he would never know just how tightly squeezed in we all are on a daily basis. So what if the train arrives in less than a minute, it’s already overcrowded!

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  • Survey recently:

    Where is liu tiger ,10 millions populations sleep in his house ?

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  • 擒贼先擒王:

    The question is can PS be Bought?
    This question determines is democracy is delayed another 20 years or more or not.

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  • Tremendous:

    See ? Hyflux already said there are authorities telling them to plan for 8m. Don’t want to quash the claim for so long. Then it must be true and Balaboy the s*ake lied that it’s going to be lower than 6.9m, right ?

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  • SG doesnt belong to Familee:

    now look when happened ?
    with his D-son at the helm, several of senior lee’s long term vision for SG went haywire.
    senior lee’s biggest mistake?
    Mr LKY why arent u getting up to put things right, as u so fiercely said once?

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  • this is TRUTH:

    the figure of 6.9m and 10.0m did come from pap mouth.

    despite all the denials of pap heng, who scored a very low score in East Coast as deputy PM.

    many say pap heng scored very low in East Coast because many see pap heng as an outright liar which the voters there do not want.

    many more say it is the plan of the voters to vote pap heng into parleement again so that he can be voted out of office GE2024 making history as the first sitting PM in Singapore to be voted out of office, so much so pap clown is now using this as a reason why pap clown must remain in office until way past 70 to ensure such TRUTH does not take place GE2024.

    all crap to stay in power and to prevent New Government from forming and indicting them in New Court for the S$m stolen from cotton sheep.

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  • TUMASIK Patriot:

    I will NOT comment out of respect for Yang’s sincere gesture of Patriotism…

    “Chubby Checker”

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  • Dun Bluff Mi U Tink I 2pid?:

    “Not quite sold” meaning “Not convinced” but not “No No”

    His d**honourable son will still do it and ramp up to 6.9m/8m/10m. No more turning back.

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  • oxygen:

    READING THE COMMENTS ABOVE forces me to conclude that POFMA was a shameless PIMP despatching DEMANDS of CORRECTION DIRECTIONS on those significant political natives speaking out during the election husting against the 10 million walking corpses in Lewd-ThaiGirl’s wet dream of wonderland fantasy utopia.

    POFMA PIMP has sold all its credibility to the devil of lies, CAN’T BUY that back ever with money or fake morality from this point on.

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  • oxygen:

    GEOLOGICALLY, it is UNSUSTAINABLE of excavations – town planners and HDB are CLUELESS of this risk. An earthquake tremor in Indonesia could trigger cave-in sending all above ground structures collapsing and burying millions island wide with no hope of rescuing and waiting to die in misery of injury sustained or just plain hunger for food and water.

    Otherwise without the physical space and economic resources base, it is even harder of managing and delivering economic outcome in an integrated world of competitive pressures fostered by an ever-escalating turbulent world. The unemployment downside risks is unimaginable aggravated by escalating run-away costs of living pressures as demand far exceeds supply (except for labor).

    Life for retrenched is simply unbearable of sustainability. When we are struggling of survival pressures now with just 5.7 million without Covid-19 pandemic and of sudden death collapse of economy (if covid pandemic returns in waves of varying sizes) HOW CAN WE COPE WITH 10 MILLION in which maybe well over a million needs sustenance support to live the next day??

    And where do we get our energy supply? Via nuclear power and one mistake, the ENTIRE 10 MILLION WIPED OUT saved of natural aristocrats who fled quietly via Changi airport or helicopter ride SECRETIVELY without public announcement of nuclear contamination death inevitable of those left behind?

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  • oxygen:

    @ this is TRUTH

    PAPpypolitics is and have always been a meandering ENDLESS river of 1% truth, 99% lies, fantasy and propaganda. Now they even invent the fiction illusion of “trial balloon” CAWK-TEASER of 10 million silent planning assumption (claiming not of their target making) of someone’s else wet dreams instead BUT CONVENIENTLY COMING OUT AT SUITABLE OPPORTUNE MOMENT from PAPpypolitics mouth.

    They must be thinking that peasants are that stupid not to realise that nothing can come out of the mouth if it does not exists in their mind uttered in public forum platform at NUS.

    VOTERS HAVE GOT ENOUGH of this sh*t.

    A FAREWELL SEND OFF AT EAST COAST would be historic proportion of full and frank feedback to the POFMA PIMP which sent out CORRECTION DIRECTIONS to those who dare to speak or write unholy truths of 10 million trial balloon flotation in the election air.

    this is TRUTH: the figure of 6.9m and 10.0m did come from pap mouth.

    despite all the denials of pap heng, who scored a very low score in East Coast as deputy PM.

    many say pap heng scored very low in East Coast because many see pap heng as an outright liar which the voters there do not want.

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  • crying over spilt milk:

    why didnt those daft citizens at lhl’s ward vote him out this GE2015 ? why wanna wait till 2024 n beyond.
    our SG might be sunk by then..
    now complain no use.

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  • crying over spilt milk:

    crying over spilt milk:
    why didnt those daft citizens at lhl’s ward vote him out this GE2015 ? why wanna wait till 2024 n beyond.
    our SG might be sunk by then..
    now complain no use.

    apologies…shd read GE2020 not GE2015

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  • crying over spilt milk:

    crying over spilt milk:
    why didnt those daft citizens at lhl’s ward vote him out this GE2015 ? why wanna wait till 2024 n beyond.
    our SG might be sunk by then..
    now complain no use.

    apologies…shd read GE2020 not GE2015

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  • 6.9 Million by 2030:

    opposition dude:
    No 5.5 million is already too much. We were making so much noise in 2011 when it was 5.11 million back then and you still want 5.5?

    The Population White Paper (PWP), is a controversial white paper released by the government of Singapore in January 2013 that projects Singapore’s population as 6.9 million by the year 2030:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_White_Paper

    Search on google shows Singapore population to be 5,850,342 people. It’s not too far fetch to reach 6.9 million in 2030.

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  • Rodger:

    PAP has overbuilt all over the country right up to the coastal areas.

    Why?

    To collect all kinds of money. One big block in the sky can fetch millions in property tax, GST on utilities bills and car park charges alone.

    Where profit is the motive PAP will do whatever it takes.

    No money to make then it’s lip service to promise this and that.

    For instance, PAP never bothered to rein in the cost of living. Why? No money in it.

    And why so keen on Chingay? Again, they have a chance to make money by selling tickets. I’ve boycotted Chingay.

    Next will be Thaipusam. Paper generals will think of an excuse to make it a ticketed event. Mark my word.

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  • Rodger:

    Our office bearers DONT travel by public transport so they are not aware of the terrible overcrowding at MRT and LRT stations and on trains and buses THROUGHOUT the day.

    Even worse than Shanghai!

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  • Harder Truths:

    The old despot is dead. Good riddance. His anti-$G citizen policies are the foundation for the current crisis.

    he is not a god or deity or even a good leeder. All the credit for the hard work of his peers he stole and glorified himself with.

    Let his bullshit be buried with him.

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  • Rodger:

    Harder Truths:
    The old despot is dead. Good riddance. His anti-$G citizen policies are the foundation for the current crisis.

    he is not a god or deity or even a good leeder. All the credit for the hard work of his peers he stole and glorified himself with.

    Let his bullshit be buried with him.

    He started off well but soon with a Super majority he acted like a warlord, jailing and suing his opponents. You know why he wanted to demolish his house?

    His conscience pricked him. Don’t leave anything behind to remind people he was a dictator.

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  • Rodger:

    When Dictator talked to foreigners he smiled. But when he talked to Singaporeans he talked like a big bully. Notice that?

    His son smiles more but he’s a smiling tiger.

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  • xoxo:

    There is OPTIMALITY in everything.
    When we try to MAXIMISE INSTEAD OF OPTIMISE,we will face more hiccups as can be observed here in the various facets of life here.

    Better to OPTIMISE THAN ATTEMPT TO MAXIMISE!
    I give a simple layman example.
    Take FIRE SAFETY AT SHOPPING MALLS.
    NO POINT having all the fire-fighting measures put in place when MALLS ARE ALLOWED TO CRAMP EVERY OPEN SPACE WITH EXTRA STALLS HERE,THERE,EVERYWHERE LEAVING VERY LITTLE SPACE FOR FREE AND SAFE HUMAN MOVEMENTS ESPECIAALY SHUD AN EMERGENCY LIKE A FIRE BREAK OUT?

    YOU SEE MAXIMISATION IS OFTEN LINKED TO GREED WHERAS OPTIMISATION IS MIRE MODERATE?

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  • is our SG ours anymore?:

    our country looks like one big construction site…
    what happened to our once beautiful clean serene country, even without all those new huge mega infrastructure..we were happy n content.
    we’re not ungrateful..but there comes a time when we have to say enough is enough..and i think GE2020 results reflected this sentiment..still more sgs need to wake up and take back our country..to have a say at least.

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  • Beholden By The Dollars:

    Good Graious!
    A tiny island of 5.7 million needs 5 Mayors?
    New York just have one!

    What absolute nonsence!
    Overlapping duties with overlapping pay?

    Is this how honchos are beholden to naked aristocraps?

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  • DavidNeo&IreneVanessa:Bastards:

    Why import all the grannies and grandpas from India? We have many elderlies

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  • Asd:

    I think the episode shows how much money tax payer is wasted on planning for 10m population and then say there is no such plan that old man doing the planning has taken up much of the state resources such as money going into nothing but just articulating in the air for nothing

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  • Poor chap:

    Poor chap must be hopping mad with eyes popped right out screaming in his familiar rage. Sin can imagine what he screamed.

    You idpiots. Singapore lesser than the Puerto Rica, Malaysia, indonesia ….
    The rest of you, bootlick but not going stupid with covering up the 100+. Millions.
    DNS wait till i get my belt, send your s the same as your forst one!
    What Mahathir having the last laugh, you morons!

    Daft Sinke go wow wow sh. Them ownselfxxx ownself! Ho ho ho down the rat hole n play in the hole of calcuttda.

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