Death penalty for convicted drug offenders.

Capital punishment by hanging for drug offenders was in the news lately. I support the death penalty for convicted drug offenders.

I totally understand that we are human beings and we have feelings, a sense of pity for the condemned persons and sympathies etc, however, our feelings and sympathies must never, never be misplaced.

When we analyse any issues, we must use our brains and not our hearts. Never use our backside too. The curse, scourge and sufferings that drug abuses will extract on innocent families and societies are well known and documented. Although I disagree with the pap government on many other issues, I strongly support the pap government’s tough stance against drug offences in Singapore and we shouldn’t apologise for it.

Singapore is a wealthy country and situated in a major drug producing region in this part of the world and it is all the more vital that we must never let our guard down.

Any responsible Singapore government must never go soft on drug offences in Singapore. I will go even further to add that any political parties which advocate that we adopt a softer and/or more tolerance attitudes toward drug or substance abuses like in some western countries do not ever deserve any support.

I believe that every right thinking persons who love this country, love his/her family, love his/her children and grandchildren etc will support our zero tolerance stance towards drug and substance abuses.

Think.

 

Simon Lim

 

 

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16 Responses to “Death penalty for convicted drug offenders.”

  • N Chan:

    I agree that drugs is a problem and Singapore needs tough laws to deal with the issue of drugs. But the problem is not with the punishment but the Misuse of Drugs Act.

    1. Firstly, Sections 17 and 18 of the law contains clauses that presumes that the accused is guilty of trafficking unless proven that the drugs are for personal consumption and the accused knows the nature of the drug.

    This poses 2 problems. Firstly, in Section 18, this means that a person framed, for example, be given a Christmas gift that the accused has not unwrapped at all, is automatically presumed guilty of trafficking drugs and liable to decades in jail with caning or even the death sentence, as there is no written proof that he knew clearly that the gift contained drugs or that to his information, the gift was only a gift. This was what happened with Poon Yuen-chung and Lam Hoi-ka (sentenced to life imprisonment) (https://www.scmp.com/article/45899/hk-woman-hang-drug-smuggling). Similarly, in another case involving Zulfikar bin Mustaffah, according to points 21 and 22 of the judgement (https://www.supremecourt.gov.sg/docs/default-source/module-document/judgement/2001-sgca-8.pdf), the court need not prove that the accused has “possessed the requisite knowledge
    as to the contents of what he was carrying” to hang a person. So long as he/she has the drugs, even if wrapped in opaque wrapping, esp opaque wrapping that does not reasonably suggest that the packaging contains drugs, the accused is hanged. And this is an issue – yes, a strong deterrence regime is needed, but not to the extent where the letter of the law permits what in essence is a clear act of miscarriage of justice, esp in sending a person to the gallows, like what happened with Zulfikar.

    2. The second issue is according to Section 33B of the Misuse of Drugs Act, the public prosecutor is at discretion to issue a certificate to an accused drug trafficker to show substantive cooperation in anti-drug operations and thereby ask the judge to sentence the accused to life imprisonment instead. But, the problem is, discretion is solely in the hands of the public prosecutor, and the prosecutor’s decision 1) is not bound by any form of legal limits or guidelines along the lines of the prosecutorial guidelines UK prosecutors are subject to and 2) the public prosecutor’s decision not to issue a certificate can only be overturned if the decision re the certificate is made in “malice” or “bad faith”. This means, the DPP is bound by his/her whim on whether the certificate should be issued, he/she is not bound to release the grounds of decision which means it cannot be challenged, and it must be proven that the DPP has vested interest in not issuing the certificate, or has a grudge against the accused or has been bribed, which are grounds that are ordinarily difficult to prove given the opaque nature of the decision making process. And this is a justice issue.

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  • is this justice:

    looks like only the small fish get caught.
    all the big fish always get away.
    so the big fish will continue to recruit the poor and pay them to do the evil deeds.
    no use killing the small fish cuz u kill one , ten more are veing recruited.
    got to go after the big fish somehow.

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  • Agreed:

    Agreed but some cases need a bit flexibility and compassion if circumstances warrant it.Death is not reversible.
    Of course we need to control the drug issues.

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  • land of agents:

    we have moved around.

    we say when it comes to drugs, show no mercy. once convicted as pusher, whether kingpin or runner, death sentence.

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  • Billy ma:

    The most if not the only decent statement made by a PAP on the drug & death sentence issue was when ah sham responded to a Malaysian polician about telling Singapore to get the big drug dealers & not shrimps.
    Ah sham non shamelessly told the fellow across the causeway that the big dealers are from across & the Malaysian should make effort to get them or at least prevent the drugs from coming into our city.

    When these drug dealers or carriers didn’t get caught, they probably enjoy good life with the $$$ earned from the trade.

    But when they got caught, why would anyone expect people to rally around them?

    Families of those got caught likely know what they are up to.
    If so, please advise or tell them to stop.

    Not after they got caught & then start blaming others for the crimes they’d done.

    About the death penalty, it should be reserved for the big dealers.
    Small shrimps maybe should get 20 years or life depending on the amount they got caught with.

    Anyway these people knew about the severity of the crimes but it seems that the easy $$$ is worth the risk.
    Who to be blame!

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Reported on TOC :Quote -”
    Syed Suhail’s appeal on Judicial Review is fixed on 22 Sept; lawyer M Ravi reveals about 55 people to face “imminent execution” over the coming weeks or months
    S.Ling by S.Ling 19 September 2020 4 min read

    In a Facebook post on Friday (18 September), human rights lawyer M Ravi revealed that 44-year-old Singaporean, Syed Suhail bin Syed Zin’s appeal on Judicial Review will be fixed on next Tuesday (22 September).

    “I got notified by the Court that Syed’s Appeal on yesterday’s Judicial Review is fixed on Tuesday, 22 September 2020. I have also filed a Criminal Motion to reopen his case on grounds of adducing evidence in respect of the resentencing regime under Section 33B(3) to address his drug dependency and we have informed the prison of Dr Ken Ung’s availability to see Suhail on 29th September,” Mr Ravi wrote on his post.

    Mr Ravi also said that he has visited Mr Syed and two other inmates on Friday while describing how’s Mr Syed feel after being granted an interim stay of execution.

    “He first thanked everyone who fought to save his life and sends his prayers to all of you. He was visibly distressed because he said he was only told at 9pm that he won’t be executed and he nor the family members, friends and relatives were aware and the last the call he made was to his uncle in KL at about 6.30pm. His sisters and friends cried so much….”

    For those who are not aware of the case, the High Court has ordered an interim stay of execution for Syed’s death sentence on Thursday (17 September) after his lawyer, Mr Ravi successfully filed a criminal motion and appeal to contest the dismissal of the Judical Review Application that was heard earlier in the morning on the same day.

    Mr Syed had been scheduled to be hanged on today at Changi Prison for drug trafficking offences committed back in August 2011.

    In January 2016, Singapore’s High Court found Mr Syed guilty of trafficking under 40 grams of heroin, court documents stated. The judgement pointed out that he is unable to prove that he was keeping the drugs for personal consumption, citing cost and financial difficulties. The documents also noted that Mr Syed sold a packet of heroin to a man for S$5,700.

    As a result, he was convicted under the Misuse of Drug Act and was sentenced to death for drug trafficking…..”Unquote .

    Response : 55 people to face “imminent execution” over the coming weeks or months ???? Really ,got so people going to be hanged ? How come we never read of news report from Straits Times of drug trafficker got hanged ? No nsme and no photo shown out and obvious no person got hanged .Who knows got released them behind the scene or not ? And send them back to their countries too ? If really got even hanged one ,there will be big uproar.How come media so quiet when up to 55 people are to be hanged ?

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  • Free Rider Singaporeans:

    Dear Simon, you said :
    Any responsible Singapore government must never go soft on drug offences in Singapore. I will go even further to add that any political parties which advocate that we adopt a softer and/or more tolerance attitudes toward drug or substance abuses like in some western countries do not ever deserve any support.
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    We, PAP, are the enlighten one. Our founding father Lee Kuan Yew knew this long ago.

    If the West could pass euthanasia law for the incurable person, why not also pass similar euthanasia law for lazy and unmotivated ?

    Definition : Euthanasia the painless killing of a patient suffering from an incurable and painful disease.

    Let’s also include lazy and unmotivated and irresponsible behavior and free riding a incurable and painful disease.

    Though Andrew is a constant pain to my great PAP Leeder, we PAP wish him well and that he lived to his ripe age. But not for the free rider.

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Lazy Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster

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  • xoxo:

    The CRUX OF THE MATTER here is NOT HOW MANY DRUG PEDDLARS OR ABUSERS you have caught and punished by jailing or death sentences.

    These are small pawns and even if you kill them,DRUG TRAFFICKING N ABUSE WILL STILL THRIVE?!
    NOT UNTIL THE GOVT IS HONEST AND SINCERE ABOUT ERADICATING DRUGS ALTOGETHER WILL peddlars and abusers cease to exist.

    GO AFTER THE DRUG-LORDS.
    IF NOT, THEY WILL SIMPLY RECRUIT OTHERS,even innocent ones, to do THEIR BIDDING and propagate and perpetuate their LUCRATIVE bu$ine$$?

    Drugs and GAMBLING are inseparable,so too SEX AND MONEY LAUNDERING and other VICE$.

    WE MUST STOP THE PRETENSION.

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  • Simon Peter - A Fisher of Men:

    Wow! You sounded so noble and righteous.

    Homo sapien has evolved into human being.

    Canibalism is an animal instinct which we as human being is distinct from it.

    But you are not, and still stuck like a primitive babarian.

    What is today’s religions all about ?

    What is religion to you if you indeed have a faith ?

    Why do you even adopt SIMON for your name ?

    THINK AND THINK HARD.

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  • TumasikPatriot:

    All Life is Precious even Murderers & Drug Dealers…

    taking away another Life for a Life lost or not lost is in itself a Lost Cause…

    Drug dealers are still around, the pushers and mules are the ones with the millstone around their neck because of their situation to go into this TRADE knowing its CONsequences…

    Yes Harsh Penalties MUST be impose but has it to be like taking another Life to show the Toughness of the SINgapore Law like the tough guy who in essence is a COWARD!!! and send a million+++ unborn to their graves mostly Unmarked

    I say, Lock them up for Life or a minimum of 20 years or more in a Penitentiary like ex-Senang or ex-Alcatraz and turn them into Productive Prisoners BUT give them a Good Whipping to let others Know that they may NOT die by Hanging but they will not sit on their a$$e for a month to reflect before starting their term to be a Useful Human again…

    Since there is a 2cts around, this is my 1-1/2cts

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  • Nathan Chen:

    ‘I totally understand that we are human beings and we have feelings, a sense of pity for the condemned persons and sympathies, etc, however, our feelings and sympathies must never, never be misplaced”

    On what basis is the feelings and sympathies of human right lawyers like M Ravi and Eugene Thuraisingam and the staff of his law firm and other anti-death-penalty social activists ‘misplaced’. All these people are thinking through their ass and not brains when trying to save lives as you claimed.

    You dare to speak for all the oppositions. Try standing in an election against M Ravi or Eugene one on one on the single issue of Drug Traflicking and the Death Penalty. You think you are on strong ground and you can win?

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Stated above by Simon Lim :Quote -”Capital punishment by hanging for drug offenders was in the news lately. I support the death penalty for convicted drug offenders.

    I totally understand that we are human beings and we have feelings, a sense of pity for the condemned persons and sympathies etc, however, our feelings and sympathies must never, never be misplaced.

    When we analyse any issues, we must use our brains and not our hearts. Never use our backside too. The curse, scourge and sufferings that drug abuses will extract on innocent families and societies are well known and documented. Although I disagree with the pap government on many other issues, I strongly support the pap government’s tough stance against drug offences in Singapore and we shouldn’t apologise for it…..”Unquote .

    Response : Drug traffickers should be hanged .Drug offenders or abusers depend on seriousness should be decided on hang or jailed for life or ten years or whatever .Our law system is not perfect and do not do their investigations thoroughly sometimes.So there still may be people who are innocent and unknowingly carry drugs for drug traffickers .Or drugs are placed into their luggage unknowingly .So investigations must be thorough else innocent people may be hanged .Hanged the drug people who make money from drugs but don’t hanged real innocent people .Not all people are born to understand what drugs are and our rubbish education controlled by the evil women wing did not do enough to educate people on drugs . Go and put posters sign all over every corner of Singapore to inform people that drugs offenders will be hanged to spread the message that drug is not tolerated. Don’t save on such money that should be spend .

    Everybody should ask Kasisviswabathan Shanmugam or Iswaran to show to people all those dtugs that has been confiscated by police last five years are still inside the police storage or show video and proof that those drugs are really destroyed by fire .Else,nobody knows whether some bad police behind take them to sell or not and pocket the money,who knows ? And what about those confiscated drugs cash,what happens to them in whose possession must explain clearly too by K Shanmugam,right ?

    Hanging drug traffickers is right .What if law is abused in that scenario that hanging drug traffickers is to destroy evidence and that is kill to silence to protect some corrupted legal force ? You never know .

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  • Talk Cork:

    Simon, please dont make such statements. You know nuts about this case.

    While we need abide by the laws, many people are driven by poverty and forced into such crimes. Many of them are used by syndicates in debt-trap situations.
    Humans are greedy and will have to pay a huge price of their lifetime.

    There are fathers whose bad gambling habits get them into huge debts and are forced to prostitute their wife or daughters to pay back the debt or end up being used by such people to pay back their debts. there are so many horror stories around the world.

    Bottom-line,, we dont know why people peddle or consume drugs. There are so many evil people and syndicates exploiting others to recruit for such illicit crimes.

    Keep you focus on politics and dont make such statements. Drug is a crime and I agree with punishments. Taking away a life is another matter.

    Will you make the same statement if your brother or son is going to the gallows ?

    Think !!!

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  • nathan chen:

    The death-penalty for convicted drug traffickers is mandatory. This effectively tied the hands of the Appeal judges of any other judicious decision except the ultimate punishment, death. Long history cut short, LKY wanted it this way. He wants the Executive Branch of government to be the enforcer, judges and jury and the executioner. The President of Singapore too must kowtow to the Executive in death-row inmates seeking pardon.

    How many learned Cabinet Ministers are well versed in the Law, crimes and drugs and our criminal justice system, and tempering justice with punishment?

    The Appeal judges should decide who lives or die. Not Cabinet Ministers. LKY was of the opinion no judges like to be known as the “hanging judge” given the choice most will opt for a lesser sentence that’s the death sentence must be mandatory. Well, we have seen how the present administration tries to loosen the ropes a little on a rigid mandatory death sentence. If death-row inmates provides authentic information to the authorities that would lead to the arrest and prosecution of bigger fish then these deaths-row inmates would be spared the ropes and serve a life sentence instead. However, this has led to more legal wrangling from lawyers of those not similarly spared.

    I am not totally against the death penalty, but not the mandatory death sentence for convicted drug traffickers. Terrorists that bombed and killed many innocent people, crimes that involve violence like rape cum murder deserved the death penalty if they are proved guilty.

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.FLOP.NextGE:

    Start by euthanizing you.

    Free Rider Singaporeans:
    Dear Simon, you said :
    Any responsible Singapore government must never go soft on drug offences in Singapore. I will go even further to add that any political parties which advocate that we adopt a softer and/or more tolerance attitudes toward drug or substance abuses like in some western countries do not ever deserve any support.
    ==============================================================
    We, PAP, are the enlighten one. Our founding father Lee Kuan Yew knew this long ago.

    If the West could pass euthanasia law for the incurable person, why not also pass similar euthanasia law for lazy and unmotivated ?

    Definition : Euthanasia the painless killing of a patient suffering from an incurable and painful disease.

    Let’s also include lazy and unmotivated and irresponsible behavior and free riding a incurable and painful disease.

    Though Andrew is a constant pain to my great PAP Leeder, we PAP wish him well and that he lived to his ripe age. But not for the free rider.

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Lazy Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.FLOP.NextGE:

    Govt trained all these robots through MOE and army. Now say Sporeans CMI (cannot make it). Better close MOE.

    Free Rider Singaporeans:
    Dear Simon, you said :
    Any responsible Singapore government must never go soft on drug offences in Singapore. I will go even further to add that any political parties which advocate that we adopt a softer and/or more tolerance attitudes toward drug or substance abuses like in some western countries do not ever deserve any support.
    ==============================================================
    We, PAP, are the enlighten one. Our founding father Lee Kuan Yew knew this long ago.

    If the West could pass euthanasia law for the incurable person, why not also pass similar euthanasia law for lazy and unmotivated ?

    Definition : Euthanasia the painless killing of a patient suffering from an incurable and painful disease.

    Let’s also include lazy and unmotivated and irresponsible behavior and free riding a incurable and painful disease.

    Though Andrew is a constant pain to my great PAP Leeder, we PAP wish him well and that he lived to his ripe age. But not for the free rider.

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Lazy Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster

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