India still pulling its punches

On the Tibetan plateau, the two nuclear-armed nations have thousands of soldiers massed along the disputed border high , after a June clash. The clash left at least 20 Indian soldiers dead. Very recently, India and China agreed to ‘quickly disengage’. And China has just returned five Indian nationals who strayed into Chinese territory when hunting.

China has humiliated India and “strong-man” Modi. I’ve already reported on an economic cost to both countries: Can India afford to boycott Chinese products?.

The cost to China of the border dispute is economic. Huawei and other Chinese telecoms equipment companies are being phased out of India’s booming market, including that for 5G networks.

Although India has not issued any formal, official written ban on equipment suppliers such as Huawei and ZTE, Indian telecoms service providers have been told not to use Chinese equipment in future. A government official said India was wary about Chinese investment in sensitive infrastructure.

“The thinking is: ‘Let’s do tough rather than talk tough,’” an official told the FT. “We don’t want to make life miserable for consumers. But when it comes to big public contracts and critical infrastructure, we would prefer non-Chinese companies. That message has gotten through to Indian business.”

The impact on Chinese tech companies could be considerable. Huawei has been one of the three biggest telecoms equipment suppliers in India which is the world’s second biggest mobile market with more than 850m users. It has had significant contracts with Bharti Airtel, Vodafone and state-owned BSNL.

 

 

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16 Responses to “India still pulling its punches”

  • Pro- Alien PAP failed. AGAIN:

    Stratis Times: Jobs hard to find for foreign graduates trying to meet S’pore bond obligation

    This shows that PAP wasted taxpayers’ money providing financial assistance to foreigners to study in Singapore. The money could have been better spent on Singaporeans. To make matters worse, these foreigners deprived Singaporeans of places in local educational institutions.

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  • Free Rider Singaporeans:

    Dear CL,
    Yes, it time that we work with India and USA to bring down China aka break it.

    China is now being isolated.

    Nobody in the world would want to befriend a 13 billions population who go around with their dirty and cheating habits, create PM2.5 cancerous haze burning on every 7 month and enslaving their people.

    Please support America Donald Trump effort to shutdown all Confucius school孔子学院 worldwide, including Singapore.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/13/trump-administration-confucius-institute-is-arm-of/

    Only British Council or American Council be allowed to operate worldwide.

    Never never learn or get near Confucius teaching. It is against progress, against woman, against equality. All in all, Confucius teaching is against human right. (now where are all the pro democracy nuts?)

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Lazy Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster

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  • Shanmugam talking cock again:

    Straits Times: Review aims to change mindset and improve women’s position in Singapore: Shanmugam

    The “review” should also include REMOVING women in high position who have shown they are not competent. The review can start with the Temasek CEO. She lost BILLIONS when Temasek invested in Merrill Lynch and Barclays. If she was was held accountable why is she still Temasek CEO will million $ salary. Is this Singapore meritocracy?

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  • Sojoürner:

    India staunchly prided itself for being independent. If you could understand that, you would know better why India reacts the way it does on territorial issues, on Kashmir, and sometimes even on Islamism. Such concessions are often made for China which has perfect the “100 years of humiliation” narrative. Indian’s don’t think of colonial era like that, but there are some scars still. In a world where we are so quick to judge based on principles formed in the west, perhaps it would be wise of the author to have a heart and think of the people and country you report on.

    This article is an example of Western propaganda machine – deeply entrenched into US and European countries.

    It is very unfortunate to take such a unilateral stand on banning the Huawei, ZTE, Tiktok and taking just two or three examples to prove their point while the large section of India and the world is happy with India’s stand to prevent aggressive China. I hope articles would provide both side perspectives rather than being so lopsided, which is definitely not a high quality journalism.

    Also, Indian media is reporting that many Indians who were making money and living off these apps are not happy with these sudden bans.
    So, once this anti China fever passes which it will no doubt as China has the upper hand – many of these apps will be again allowed.

    As an aside, rather than banning these apps – if India had launched a cyber war to disable these apps in China – that would at least prove that India’s IT technology is advanced enough like China’s.

    Unfortunately, despite India constantly boasting that without Indian IT talent – America will fold – Indian IT prowess is simply an empty boast. Since, there is not one app Indian IT sector has produced that the world or China or even India craves for.

    And that’s a fact. Specific regional politics asides, it strikes me that in a roundabout way the global internet fracturing isn’t such a bad thing…

    Nothing is stopping India, which has a vibrant tech community of its own, developing a platform. And that platform may be banned in China likewise.

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  • TUMASIK Patriot:

    India said it ‘taught” China a lesson and humiliate China instead…

    Never ends lah!!! Nationalism and SPINNING…Singapore has NOT fought a war yet but Spin about One Target One Shot

    Malaysia destroy Causeway and water pipe go fishing off Horseberg Lighthouse and see how Singapore Sink

    Indonesia slash & burn and let nature takes its course and Singapore Suffocate

    So what is all the Shit of Spinning and Bragging when neighbours don’t even need to send a Sling Shot across and see it Di’SIN’tigrate into another “Sg. Sodom & Gomorrah”

    Just Prosper thy Neighbour and NOT Exploit thy Neighbour and this would be a nice place to Live in albeit the Evil (created by a Bastard) all around

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  • Great Asia:

    Cynical Investor,

    How about India losing the next industrial revolution, which is the internet economy?

    In the next few years, companies and consumers will not have to buy desktop and laptop computers, everything will be shifted to cloud computing.

    Who can help India to build this gigantic internet infrastructure for the future economy?

    Ha ha ha!

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  • jumbo:

    The world is going into de-globalisation with US taking the lead now. The covid-19 pandemic is aggravating this. If Trump gets another term, it will gather momentum. How would countries deal with it?

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  • What about free rider Ivan Lim:

    PAP said it would “come back” to the Ivan Lim saga after the elections. It is now 70 days since the elections on July 10.

    PAP will find it really hard to “spin” this without looking stupid and dishonest. Why? Because release of any ADDITIONAL information will prove its candidate selection process was not “thorough and robust” as claimed by Lawrence Wong. This info could not have been available before Ivan was allowed to run as part of Tharman team at Jurong GRC. If it was then PAP would have released it when “shit the fan” when Ivan was exposed.

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  • Free Rider Singaporeans:

    Sojoürner:
    China has the upper hand – many of these apps will be again allowed.

    China has upper hand …wahahahahaha …you are dreaming ..

    China is crashing with US ban of high tech chips to China… yipeee

    Huawei/ZTE will have no chips and China 5G will find no buyer…

    China is finished … period.

    Nobody in the world would want a 13 billions population China to be strong and then go around with their dirty and cheating habits, create PM2.5 cancerous haze burning on every 7th month and enslaving their people.

    Please support America Donald Trump effort to shutdown all Confucius school孔子学院 worldwide, including Singapore.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/13/trump-administration-confucius-institute-is-arm-of/

    Only British Council or American Council be allowed to operate worldwide.

    Never never learn or get near Confucius teaching. It is against progress, against woman, against equality. All in all, Confucius teaching is against human right. (now where are all the pro democracy nuts?)

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Lazy Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster

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  • Harder Truths:

    Sojoürner: Nothing is stopping India, which has a vibrant tech community of its own, developing a platform. And that platform may be banned in China likewise.

    Great post!

    About your last point. People forget that India – till today – is still a construct of the British Empire. The Indian Constitution, legal system, fragmented culture sitting between east and west, an economic system based on western capitalism but run by thousand year old Indian traditionalists are all a product of the 200-year occupation which even now India cannot reconcile within itself.

    How then to proper? There is outright hatred between north, south, east and west of the country’s many sects, cultures, castes and political groups. Add to the fact that over 80% are educated to less than our PSLE, you will get a faint idea of how the huge inertia of a very divided nation is impossible to overcome.

    If not for the British, India as we know it would not exist today. Whether that is a good or bad thing is irrelevant. The fact is $G will be seeing their level of misfortune if this kind of mass migration keeps up. Plus with the India-China standoff now ongoing it only takes a few hothead from both these migrant colonies living in SG to start something that will make the Tekka Riot look like a school picnic.

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  • PAP CLOSE DOWN:

    Supoort Donald Trump. You are Ang Mo tua kee? Always say other people. Now change your tune. Hypocrite.

    Free Rider Singaporeans:
    Dear CL,
    Yes, it time that we work with India and USA to bring down China aka break it.

    China is now being isolated.

    Nobody in the world would want to befriend a 13 billions population who go around with their dirty and cheating habits, create PM2.5 cancerous haze burning on every 7 month and enslaving their people.

    Please support America Donald Trump effort to shutdown all Confucius school孔子学院 worldwide, including Singapore.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/13/trump-administration-confucius-institute-is-arm-of/

    Only British Council or American Council be allowed to operate worldwide.

    Never never learn or get near Confucius teaching. It is against progress, against woman, against equality. All in all, Confucius teaching is against human right. (now where are all the pro democracy nuts?)

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Lazy Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster

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  • PAP CLOSE DOWN:

    India should aim to solve its own unemployment issues instaed of asking Spore to help. Spore is the smaller country, must solve problems of bigger countries. LOL.

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  • @ jumbo:

    Choose side ?

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  • Bad Boy:

    孔子學 ?

    民可,使由之。不可,使知之.

    How come pro china fans never ever raise this for so many years ? Not a single word.

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  • Bad Boy:

    Or

    民可使道之,而不可使智之;民可道也,而不可强也。

    Isnt that ruling party’s way . Why the noise from pro china fans ?

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  • PAP.GUARANTEE.FLOP.NextGE:

    Dear Ang Mo Tua Kee Supporter.

    Just to let you know that if you resign from MOE and work for someone else, ang mo bank like Citi will not issue you their credit card. Like as though people cannot choose their employers.

    Free Rider Singaporeans:
    Dear CL,
    Yes, it time that we work with India and USA to bring down China aka break it.

    China is now being isolated.

    Nobody in the world would want to befriend a 13 billions population who go around with their dirty and cheating habits, create PM2.5 cancerous haze burning on every 7 month and enslaving their people.

    Please support America Donald Trump effort to shutdown all Confucius school孔子学院 worldwide, including Singapore.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/13/trump-administration-confucius-institute-is-arm-of/

    Only British Council or American Council be allowed to operate worldwide.

    Never never learn or get near Confucius teaching. It is against progress, against woman, against equality. All in all, Confucius teaching is against human right. (now where are all the pro democracy nuts?)

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Lazy Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster

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