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More financial support for parents who have a second and sebsequent child

I refer to the news about more financial support for parents who have a second and sebsequent child.

Cost of living in Singapore and especially the cost of having an extra little mouth to feed is definitely expensive and the extra financial help from the government is most welcome but I want to sound a warning.

In our earnestness to encourage procreation and help such parents, we must not inadvertently send out the wrong signals and create a whole new sets of social problems. Let me explain.

I know of some families who live in public rental flats and they have a few children. Most of the fathers hold very irregular jobs or at best, are very low income earners and most of the mothers are either unemployed or pretty low income earners too.

I am mindful that what I am suggesting maybe unpopular and controversial even but it is responsible and very necessary tough love.

What such people need is hand holding in guiding them about responsible family planning and not entice them to have even more children with even bigger dangling financial carrots. We must never let this scheme degenerates into a ‘I show you the baby and you show me the money’ scheme.

For such families who are alearly deep in their everyday struggles and their children are alearly much disadvantaged and deprived at life’s starting line, having another child more for the dangling money from the government than out of love will only compound their struggles, stack the odds against their children even higher and create for ourselves even more social problems.

I have a suggestion. In order to qualify for this scheme, at least one of the parents must be continuously gainfully employed for the immediate past 12 months unless retrenched or evaluated on a case by case basis.

This scheme must be made applicable only for people who can at least afford to have one more child rather than parents of all newborn babies. ( Please read this paragraph again).

Such good intention scheme cannot be merely a book-smart Santa Claus scheme in order to minimise abuse, misuse that will result in even more social problems over time.

This scheme in its current form is another example of a deficient scheme thought up by a very mediocre political leadership. Those truly outstanding pap days are behind us. History!

Think.

 

Simon Lim

 

 

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18 Responses to “More financial support for parents who have a second and sebsequent child”

  • Talkcock king:

    Simon belongs right within the PAP. Look down on the poor. Only “those who can afford” can have babies. F*ck you!

    In its current form, the gov support is non-existent. Don’t talkcock about giving money.

    In a very perverse way, the so-called giving more money is actually extracting more money from parents. Go analyse carefully before you talkcock.

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  • mike:

    Having children is individual’s decision.

    To provide financial support for more babies is as wrong as punishing those who decided to have more.

    One of the most screwed population policy which treating us all like chickens, ducks and sheeps.

    And we have those smart a** that even fine tune it to show how smarter they are to prevent abuse of incentives.

    Last but not least, every G will want to manipulate population numbers, too much population with low quality products, hard to manage; too little population produce little economic values, losing economic of scale.

    For most of us who are dreamers, wake yourselves up. We are currently just like animal stocks in contributing to economic reality. The sooner you have come to term with this, the quicker you feel less angry and start making good financial decisions in liberating yourselves and your family.

    Our these few generations are probably at the very last league of human civilization. AIs will replace us all, soon our economic values will diminished to almost nothing. For example, we are going into level 2 of Autonomous Vehicles, when we reach level 4 most of us will have zero economic value. At level 5 our existence is unnecessary.

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  • Tremendous:

    I predicted a rock bottom fertility rate for 2020. The current chiefs are all different from the earlier village chief. He said he could not perk up the fertility rate. The current chiefs won’t say out loud they cannot do it because everyday they keep their mouths shut, they drain extra tax payers’ money.
    But the chiefs are blessed with great fortunes supported by legions of idiots.

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  • DPM HSK is talking cock. Again:

    Straits Times: Budget debate: DPM Heng reminds the House of hard truths

    KHSK is full of crap just like Tharman. Both insult Singaporeans repeatedly.

    Before reminding Parliament of “hard truths” he should tell Singaporeans the WHOLE TRUTH like, inter-alia, the size of reserves, the actual cash cost to the government as a whole to build HDB flats, etc.

    Without knowing the WHOLE TRUTH Singaporeans cannot determine the veracity of the “hard truths”. These so called “hard truths” might be based mainly PAP’s self-serving assumption(s) a.k.a. “spin”. Therefore, they are not really “truths” but just the usual PAP propaganda to mislead Singaporeans.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Financial support comes from taxing the citizens themselves. It does not matter what that handout is – we citizens are ultimately paying for it.

    Asking for more handouts is asking to be taxed more. And the imbalance will be worse when people have to work harder to pay more. And if they somehow lose their jobs to FT they become dependent on the handouts.

    Taxing employers and FT more does not work, because there is always an FT willing to work for less, and the overall cost to employ the FT can always be adjusted by the employers so there is no nett increase in tax for both. This means less employers will be willing to employ locals, and the problem just becomes worse.

    The reason behind $G citizens being poor is their jobs have been stolen. Kick the FT out or make it more costly to employ then than locals. Then the job market will favour locals. If the employers cannot afford to function with citizens then we are better off with them leaving – they do not contribute to citizens and are part of the problem, not the solution.

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  • TEMUSIK PATRIOT:

    Having a child is a Gift of precious Life to any parents especially the mother…

    the Love and Care a mother shows to her child is a sight to Behold!!!…

    and a Bastard Destroyed it in 1974-2006 removing 1,000,000 +++ from a mother’s womb as he sees with his Evil eyes that a mother or parents inability to PROVIDE is a burden to an Elite Society…

    All it needs in a family of Love and Care is a reduction of UNNESSARIES and an extra pair of chopstick or spoon…

    Incentives to Provide when the cost does NOT justify the means in Todays’ world of 5Cs and an Elite Society where Family comes second after the Paper Chase and the Almighty Dollar…

    All these owing to a Bastard who wants it his way after helping the Japanese who Slaughtered 50,000 Chinese in the Sook Ching Massacre…

    compare that to the 1.000.000 +++ slaughtered in the name of LEEgal ABORTION

    Hitler is a Saint in Comparisan

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  • PAP insults Singaporeans:

    PAP is full of shit.

    The additional financial support provided by the government is just “loose change”. It is too small and another “one-off. It will easily recover what it gives out when it increases GST to 9%.

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  • PAP = Power And Privilege:

    Straits Times: Malaysia’s Khairy says he will take non-Pfizer shot to fight Covid-19 ‘vaccine hesitancy’

    “The Malaysian minister in charge of Covid-19 inoculations Khairy Jamaluddin said he will refrain from being inoculated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and will get a jab instead from one of the other vaccine providers to combat “selective vaccine hesitancy”.”

    PAP office holders made sure they get vaccinated while only the Pfizer vaccine is the only one approved for use in Singapore. Then it allows the use of less effective vaccines on other Singaporeans who cannot choose choose which vaccine they will receive. Singapore has the money to buy vaccine everybody with the Pfizer vaccine. But, nonetheless, it chose to go “cheap” on Singaporeans, excluding themselves.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    mike:
    Having children is individual’s decision.

    To provide financial support for more babies is as wrong as punishing those who decided to have more.

    One of the most screwed population policy which treating us all like chickens, ducks and sheeps.

    You are biased. All government are treating their citizens like chickens, ducks, sheeps.

    France also had near similar population policies like my great PAP but of course France is more generous.

    And due to this over generosity, it had solved their declining birth rate.

    But this over generosity had enfeebled French citizens.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cradle-to-grave-welfare-state-has-enfeebled-french-citizens-1.1128849

    mike:
    Our these few generations are probably at the very last league of human civilization. AIs will replace us all, soon our economic values will diminished to almost nothing. For example, we are going into level 2 of Autonomous Vehicles, when we reach level 4 most of us will have zero economic value. At level 5 our existence is unnecessary.

    You are out dated …. we are already into Level 3 in Japan. The gradual replacement has begun but Oppie here still hiding behind monikers or Kangaroo land whining and moaning …

    Honda wins world’s 1st approval for level-3 autonomous vehicle
    https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/11/639ef3971f63-honda-to-launch-worlds-first-level-3-autonomous-vehicle-by-march.html

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.HuatAgain
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$

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  • Swisscidal Cost of Living:

    The Swisscidal Cost of Living is the Mother of all Culprits.

    The pressure-cooker demoralising education system comes close. Nowadays, students as young as primary schoolkids dare to commit suicide or contempate to do so for they see themselves incessantly pushed to the edge of Tiao Lao Cliff. They suffer in silence.

    The upbringing of children is now seen as a very big burden. Gone are the days when kids study half-day and enjoy playing with their contemporaries. Present kids
    are like working adults; wake up as early a 5.30am, go to school while it is still dark and return home almost 5pm.
    Life, for them, has become very meaningless. Some choose to resign to fate when they can’t cope anymore. They truly suffer in silence that isn’t golden at all. Fatal is the word, e*** is the edusys. The educational policymakers are heartless and ruthless.

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  • REGIME CHANGE is "VACCINE":

    Straits Times: 5 factors that affect hospital claims

    “The relentless increase in healthcare insurance premiums is a major concern for all policyholders, but sadly there is no “vaccine” that can stop the price rises.

    This is because insurers are being hit by a double whammy – the big jump in prices of new treatments for serious illnesses such as cancer, and the increase in the number of people falling ill across all age groups, noted the Life Insurance Association (LIA).”

    Not so fast. The underlying problem here is the lack of openness and transparency in the healthcare provided by government hospitals.

    (1) Is the big jump in prices for healthcare justified? Singaporeans do not know the ACTUAL (cash) cost to the government for providing healthcare in government hospitals. Is government “subsidy” for healthcare real? How is subsidy defined? Is it a REAL subsidy, i.e., CASH spending by the government for providing healthcare is higher than what is recovered from patients OR is it a “market subsidy” (like in the pricing of new HDB flats), the government charges less than the private sector but it still makes a big profit?

    (2) Is the number falling ill really higher than what was used in the actuarial studies to determine the insurance premium to be charged? If yes, why?

    What is really needed is openness and transparency from the government run by PAP and from the insurance companies to get the WHOLE TRUTH.

    There is a no-miss “vaccine” that will most likely solve the the problem. It is called REGIME CHANGE. THE FACT IS PAP (WITH ITS NON-STOP RENT-SEEKING
    BEHAVIOUR) IS THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM FOR THE BIG CHALLENGES FACING BY SINGAPOREANS. Therefore, PAP cannot be part of the solution. Singaporeans should have buried PAP with LKY at the last elections.

    PM LHL HAS BEEN A TOTAL DISASTER. Singaporeans are definitely worse off since he became PM.

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  • xoxo:

    Young and able get help.
    Among them well-to-do.
    What about older sgs like older jobless sgs n retirees?
    Cant help them becos will burden the young???

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  • Brainwashed?:

    PAP like to say such things to divide and young and old.

    You the young want to pay more tax to support the old?

    A loaded question that the young stupidly swallow, and support PAP to ignore the old.

    PAP asks similar questions for everything that they don’t want to do. “You want to pay more tax to support xxx?”

    The truth is the old have been paying into the reserve for their entire life.

    If their contributions to the reserve are paid back to them, they will all be millionaires! In fact, the young are already getting money from the old’s contributions.

    xoxo:
    Young and able get help.
    Among them well-to-do.
    What about older sgs like older jobless sgs n retirees?
    Cant help them becos will burden the young???

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  • mike:

    Dear @ Singaporeans R Free Riders

    Yes, ‘All’ Gs are managing their people as stocks. And already started tagging us digitally since a decade ago. For SG, each of us are being ‘passively’ digitised approx. 3 decades or longer. Globally wise, we are starting next phrase of global digitalization of individual information using current ‘bio-disaster’ to expedite.

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    You are biased. All government are treating their citizens like chickens, ducks, sheeps.

    —–

    And yes, Japs are into lvl 3 and Europe/US already into it more earlier.
    However, it is currently not yet ‘approved’ for wider use or normalisation.
    There is a saying, perhaps technology might move much more faster and skip lvl 4 and straight into lvl 5 in a decade.

    But to use it widely, it will need more data, human data. And to collect sufficient ‘reliable’ data, it might need another two decades and further supporting tech advancement.

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    You are out dated …. we are already into Level 3 in Japan.

    —–

    Some of us here mentioned education…
    Education is meant for conditioning to social norms and ‘lockdown’ young adult’s time. Not so much related to imparting knowledge. After the ‘stocks’ are more or less conditioned with ‘certificates’ given, most of them will be of ‘productive’ age to start their ‘slavery’ life. Finance or financials is the tool to further ‘tie’ these productive stocks to their herds.

    Simply, not to take up much space to explain much further, just think about the different lifestyle of a rich vs the middle class. Do not think about it at the ‘unfair’ level, if we kept thinking this way, we will never see the tricks behind. Without knowing how it (social manipulation) functions, one will not get out of it and neither one can alert people to be aware nor chart their own paths out of it.

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  • xoxo:

    @Brainwashed

    Thanks for responding to my post.
    And,indeed,we share the same TRUTH.
    PAPple pay themselves AMPLY and give themselves TOP N FREE MEDICAL CARE by making ordinary sgs pay for their medicare!

    Look at many of the elderly who took their own lives ,many felt meaningless as they suffer poverty,hunger and sicknesses.
    Cost of Living has been deLEEberately e$calated and even poor elderly subsidised patients have to pay more than H$K OR KHAW BOON WAN OR EVEN LEE AH LONG AND HIS LATE FATHER?

    RECENTLY,loot $100 Billion to $quander on *$aving job$* for sgs???($o they claim).
    ImmediateLEE UP MEDISHIT PREMIUM$ IN ANTICIPATION OF HIGHER N FASTERER MEDICAL CHARGE$ ???

    You are right,i have been harping here that MANY OF THEIR COMMENTS IS DIVISIVE IN NATURE,to tell the truth.
    But the young are more educated and shud npt be easily conned.
    To me,the young sgs are more SELF-CENTRED than anything else!
    As if $100 Billion loot does not increa$e their tax burden in future?
    And,a HIGH PROPORTION OF THE $100BILLION went to FURLOUGH$$$ GRANTED TO NON-sg FTs,PRs or not!!!!

    Most of the TOP PAYING JOB$ held by FTs,non-sgs?

    NEDICAL COSTS ESCALATIONS IN AN ENVIRONMENT OF LOCAL JOBLESSNESS (taxi-uncles,food pandas,food GRABbers,cleaners etc and CARDBOARD COLLECTORS) AMIDST AN AGEING POPULATION IS SIMPLY ERRANT GOVT POLICY!

    MEDICAL COSTS HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO RISE AT A RATE FASTER THAN EVEN HOUSING IN RECENT YEARS.

    THIS IS ALL VERY WRONG!
    I am not cursing but H$K BETTER WATCH OUT FOR MORE BAD KARMA to come his way if he persists on partaking in EVIL DEEDS THATCAUSE AGEING NATION-BUILDERS financial harm that will affect their overall well-being most negatively.

    Its bad enough if one has no compassion for the weak n poor but to partake in e*** deeds makes the $IN even more serious.

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  • xoxo:

    H$K took $100Billion to GRANT BIGLY FURLIUGH$ THAT BENEFIT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF NON-sg FTs but give needy nation-builders $600 out of a PER CAPITA $23 K as proudly claimed by PAP MP TIN PEI LING from a poor constituency at Macpherson,no.less?
    How many of the sgs there at Macpherson receive $23K as announced by their *faithful* MP????

    H$K GIVE OIR sgs’ money -that cannpt be used tohelp older jobless sgs- TO HIGH INCOME-EARNER$ BUT REFUSE TO CLAW BACK FROM INCOME TAX INCREASES AND MEDISHIT PREMIUMS THAT WILL BURDEN JOBLESS SGS MORE AND WITH IMPENDING REGRESSIVE G$T INCREA$ES SLAP THE OLD N JOBLESS SGS TWICE OVER!

    WHAT KIND OF FINANCE MINISTER IS THIS?
    AND,YOUR FUTURE PM?

    MORE HARM COMING TO common sgs ,i giess?

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  • No Support For Disabled?:

    After more than 5 years the Disability Assistance Scheme (DAS) is still at $100/mth.
    Shouldn’t it be $200/mth now?
    What’s the number of Disabled who are in need of DAS?
    Are the Disabled neglected in this year’s budget?
    Seems like they are the ones left out?

    Remember, NO ONE IS LEFT OUT…

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  • Household Income:

    Guys, my fren is low wage and should be helped by the Covid support grant.

    But when he tried to apply, the criteria uses HOUSEHOLD INCOME such that he is not able to qualify.

    He is poor and low wage. But his brother has income that makes him unable to qualify for help.

    His bro is not him.
    His bro savings is not his savings.

    So by using household income instead of personal income as criteria I believe many like him are denied help.

    I notice more and more use of household once as criteria.

    I wonder in future is social welfare pushed to household ?

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