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The practice of self-clearing of cutlery by diners

This morning, I had my breakfast at a hawker centre. I have observed that majority of the people who dine there self-cleared their own cutlery after their meals.

I spoke with a hawker and enquired about the contractor who is in-charge of clearing and cleaning the tables there and he told me that it cost him

I support the practice of self-clearing of cutlery by diners but for the government to legislate and fine those who don’t self-clear after the initial leniency period is too me, over the top. It is an abuse of their power and bullying of our meek, unthinking and well- conditioned citizens. I would have no issue if they choose to embark on public education and appeal to the public to co-operate but to resort to fine people so expeditiously, that cannot be acceptable. Let me explain.

When paid contractors are not providing satisfactory services either because they cut corners on manpower, unable to find workers because of the low salary that they offer or simply because of their low productivity etc, then the government should hold them accountable accordingly and not take it out on diners. After all, the prices that diners pay to hawkers for their food alearly include the clearing and cleaning fees that hawkers pay those cleaning contractors.

This self-clearing of cutlery issue is a small matter but the principle behind it isn’t small. Our citizens must be more thinking, smarter and be more courageous to stand up for what is right and what is wrong and when things are clearly wrong, stop continue behaving like suckers swallowing subtle bullying and abuses of power by their authorities, lying down and dare not even let out a small fart.

If such incidents are not exposed and called out, more subtle abuses of power and bullying must happen again and again.

To my sucker friends and you know who you are, what do you all suckers think?

Think.

 

Simon Lim

 

 

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37 Responses to “The practice of self-clearing of cutlery by diners”

  • more problems:

    The gahmen has no moral to educate the people when money is the only thing they are concern. That is why after more than 50 years, a lot of people are still uneducated in manners.

    Simon is right to question why should we be fined for not doing someone’s job. It’s just like they let the virus through the airport and then they fined the citizens for not obeying Covid rules.

    If everyone does their own job well in the first place, there won’t be any reactive patch-ups necessary to create more problems for other people. And in the gahmen’s mind, the only way to solve problem is to fine the citizens. In my opinion, this is one of many other ways they will get more money to pay for their own wages. If you don’t believe, just ask them where will the money from the fine goes to?

    Coming back to the main topic of returning cutlery at hawker center. I am very sure that it will come to a stage where people will just sit at the table after finishing their meal and wait for the cleaners to clear the table. And soon that will lead to more social problems because people that usually spend a little time relaxing after the meal to look at their phones will be scorned at, and more videos will be taken about inconsiderate people hogging tables after their meals. And there will be more arguments and more fights.

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  • Tremendous:

    No need to put the problem on the diners. Just need to reduce monthly rentals by $500 and transfer that money to incentivize diners to clear up after eating. Don’t the chiefs pay a premium to go to restaurants and get the staff there to clear the dishes too ? You think they need to bring the empty plates to the kitchens ?

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  • #08-193 Huang Ba Dan Always:

    The shelves will fill up very quickly and they will dismiss some cleaners.

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  • Sure I Will Clear The Table bu:

    Its a good idea to help clear the tables after eating, but I will not vote for the PAP in the coming GE in 2024.

    That’s the deal for you for behaving like a Big Bully.

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  • KT:

    No wonder they are called the Party Against Peoples. When they cannot solve a problem themselves (despite being paid millions $$$$ and the highest in the world), they resort to new laws to solve the problems. And by doing so, they announce or blowing trumpet to the world that we have our cleanest food centres in the world. This is what our citizens paid them millions $$$$ for this sort of so-called “talented” minsters !!! They will “dry up” your pockets when you fail to return your trays. Isn’t cleaning and maintenance of public places is the papaya’s duties ? Why get customers to return crockery ? What if the customers slip and fall and break all the crockery while carrying them or get injured during cuts ? Who is going to pay him/her the medical bills ?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Education for majority asians cannot work one lah.

    China disregard for copyright infringement say it all.

    Another example , Simple courtesy of lifting the toilet seats before and after use also fail. Just pull some toilet papers as buffer and lift it, finished. Not that each person limit to how many pieces of toilet paper like e.g. China. Basically toilet paper in our shopping mall or office unlimited.

    Some shoppers go there and third hand toilet papers some more. Especially those still operate 24 hours.

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  • what a joke!!:

    Up till now, anyone doesn’t know the meaning of “What’s wrong with collecting more money??”

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  • opposition dude:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if more people da pao’ed from now on since we are lazy by nature. Or go to kopititams to makan since we know that the tables are cleared by staff there.

    We shall see how this goes. My assumption is that we will see more empty seats at hawker centres during lunch.

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  • Cook myself:

    opposition dude:
    I wouldn’t be surprised if more people da pao’ed from now on since we are lazy by nature. Or go to kopititams to makan since we know that the tables are cleared by staff there.

    We shall see how this goes. My assumption is that we will see more empty seats at hawker centres during lunch.

    I have been eating out at ‘kopitiams’ for more than 30 years. Now, I cook my simple healthy meals.

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  • left behind:

    The world is not the same as the old anymore. Governments around the world had become more tyranny and dictator. Power abuses are everywhere, we see harsh rules during covid-19 around the world. And why is it not the same anymore? It is because of one man, China saint. God has send China saint with many angels to save the world. We cannot see China saint and does not know who he or she is but we can feel the person. China is rising and we know about one belt one road which influence the world. This is the doing of China saint we can feel it. The west begin to wake up and its people are speaking up louder than ever, Middle east has Arab spring and here in Singapore we are starting to hear alternative voices. We can feel it too. See, hear and feel the world, we know he or she is there. The old governments around the world cannot copy with new situations like covid-19 and technology changes, they are slowly giving way to new governments with different values and capability. They are losing it, this is why they are becoming more tyranny and dictator. They used to engage the people like military engage the enemy but it does not work anymore. China saint had spread his or her belief and people see that it is the government problems. People are influencing the governments now and not becoming their puppets. People realize that they have choices and power within themselves. People know they can change the world to the one they like. God is supporting we,human being and China Saint with angels has come to save us from the misery which generation before us have suffer. Our future is a different one and we can participate in building a different world where our children and grandchildren will be proud of. They can use their tyranny to imprison our physical body, but deep in our heart we know the justice of right and wrong and our soul will live free forever and eternally. We are now about to translate this freedom into our real life and physical self with support of China Saint.

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  • Harder Truths:

    People must understand this is psychological warfare – making sure $G born are forever told to obey …obey…obey so they will be kept servile and harmless.

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  • F-16I Sufa:

    what about mcdonalds? and those fast food joints?? swensens??

    that dustbin at mcdonalds can accomodate a huge surge of dirty disposals at lunch time peak hour??

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  • Simon, what the fcuk KPKB ?:

    Typical sia-suay Singaporean. Got lampah, just walk away or boycott hawkers instead of coming here to sia-suay yourself!!!

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  • xoxo:

    Maybe we shud LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
    THEY SHU RETURN TRAYS AT I$tana?
    They shud self-serve instead of $elf-$erve??.

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  • A Potential for Woodbridge:

    @ God has send China saint with many angels to save the world.

    Ccp = 無神論.

    Try harder – left behind.

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  • Just Boycott The Hawkers:

    Thank you very much Amy Khor for coming up with a genius idea.

    She’s making it so inconvenient for all of us to eat at the Hawker Center that we should all boycott going to the Hawker Center and see what other ideas she has to stave off the pressure from our Hawkers themselves.

    Farking Malaysian. WTF

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  • left behind:

    I did not make up about China Saint,圣人. Tui bei tu 44 and Ma Qian Ke (by Zhuge Liang) no 12 拯患救难,是唯圣人;阳复而治,晦极生明。predict about圣人.The old governments around the world cannot cope with new situations like covid-19 and technology changes, they are slowly giving way to new governments. In the darkest hour of disaster, China Saint will rescue the people. After the darkest night comes the dawn. Have faith and we will see the sun shine.

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  • Wet market:

    Most wet market business are affected by the Covid …and customer service has improved.
    Still they are some stall doing very well at this time…and providing bad service.Very rude to Customer even when they are in the wrong.
    Too arrogant because their business is still good…

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  • Smart Nation:

    It’s like going back to school tuck-shop days! Must clear your utensils or else the Prefect will book you for detention class. Under PAP authoritarian rule, citizens are treated like school children under a discipline master. You pay for your food and expect to be served. Instead you are penalized because the hawkers and cleaning companies cannot get their acts together. What a way to promote Hawker Food as a cultural heritage!

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  • Let All Hawkers Vote Oppo:

    Everybody just stop going to the Hawker Center and let the PAP settle with the Hawkers.

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  • Flickshit:

    In fact, at his moment, all should boycott eating in hawkers and just ignore them.

    And this is the moment where those small kopitiam or resturant diner in and promote that “YOU do not need to clean your table after eating”

    This will pull all the customers to their resturant and let the hawkers to fight against the NEA.

    PAP is famous for bullying and abuse of power. VOTE them out is the only soluton.

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  • businesses and organizations:

    //You pay for your food and expect to be served. Instead you are penalized because the hawkers and cleaning companies cannot get their acts together. What a way to promote Hawker Food as a cultural heritage!//

    hahaha. remember last time, you paid and you got served (even at hawker centres), then become self-service then now become must clear own tray ?? but do things get any cheaper (or more inflationary), it seems that consumers pay but businesses and organizations make more money ???

    but somehow hor, it seems that this self-clearing-tray habit / discipline does not apply to people (richer people who can afford to pay more) who dine in restaurants ???

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  • A Potential for Woodbridge:

    雙羽四足 ?

    雙羽 = Xi ?
    Does Xi in any way look like a saint ?
    Cannot be referring to a bird ?
    李光耀 also 雙羽 ? Of course he moved on.

    四足 = 馬…英九 ? Why must be a horse ? Why cannot be a goat a cow a pig or elephant or ape / monkey , even a rat…. ?

    Prophecy if you me him her commoners can easily decipher it then it wouldnt be call 天機.

    So try harder.

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  • More Questions:

    businesses and organizations:
    //You pay for your food and expect to be served. Instead you are penalized because the hawkers and cleaning companies cannot get their acts together. What a way to promote Hawker Food as a cultural heritage!//

    hahaha. remember last time, you paid and you got served (even at hawker centres), then become self-service then now become must clear own tray ?? but do things get any cheaper (or more inflationary), it seems that consumers pay but businesses and organizations make more money ???

    but somehow hor, it seems that this self-clearing-tray habit / discipline does not apply to people (richer people who can afford to pay more) who dine in restaurants ???

    Oh yes! We have seen better days when hawkers were not so hard-pressed with high rentals and other fees. One reason why prices of hawker food keeps escalating is because of all these added costs to hawkers. They used to have assistants to collect their own cutleries and clean the tables after customers finished their meals. Who are the people who own and operate these businesses – cleaning companies, foreign workers’ dorms, waste disposals, etc? When things do not work or go wrong (e.g. the dorm infections) the G has to step in – and who pays to fix the problem? This time the G expect patrons to clear the tables when cleaning companies have been hired to do the job.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ A Potential for Woodbridge

    Yup.

    That reminds me of a story from romance of the 3 kingdom.

    Cao Cao had a dream 三馬同槽. A hint from heaven or divine or watever. Even with his intelligence plus his advisors also guess wrongly. He taught it was 馬騰. In the end it was 司馬懿.

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  • Wedding dinner patrons:

    Law by law, no return crockery must also applies to guests for wedding dinner. Nobody going to attend dinner anymore. Must also applies to night club, all eating outlets. Env officers very good business. Huat ah.

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  • mike:

    Precisely, policians suppose to create problems to solve them in order to be seen as useful or cannot do without them.

    The hawker used to collect their cutleries because they are non disposable, need to be washed by themselves and reuse it to serve meals. They can only have limited amount of non-disposable cutleries, bowls, plates to the space they have. Without collecting those cutleries, bowls and plates back to wash, they were unable to serve more meals.

    Thus, they have to employ part timers to collect back their items to wash, take order and serve meals. All part of job scope. Or they (the hawkers) have to do it themselves.

    Brilliant ideas comes about to use DISPOSABLE. The selling points were to ‘save cost’ and ‘deliver more’ which means PROFITS.

    Was that the case? Perhaps initially. Many part-timers became ‘jobless’.
    Who make more profits — The one selling disposables, to many more hawkers who use them more aggressively.
    Well, that time there was no such thing as CARBON FOOT PRINT.

    As time goes by, there was lesser need to collect those disposables (disposable! Stupid to collect them back! And how to tell its mine and not from the opposite stall?) and they look all similar, new problems created. Pay more for centralized rubbish clearing.

    So some hawkers start to go back to usage of non-disposable, and ask for reduction of cleaning cost from the management. But now harder to find part-timers.

    New problems, more were returning to non-disposable, the ‘contractors’ profits impacted. The SOLUTION is to central cleaning of those non-disposables. Once again, contractor made money by economics of scale.

    Then… to make more money, change workers from SGrean to malaysian, to India or any other cheap labour sources allowed.

    Finally, reduce headcounts to sustain profitability and then fast forward… here we are FINED when we don’t clear the cutleries.

    The one who provide solutions are usually the one ‘creating’ those problems.

    Just like if a gov is NOT useful, why you need them. If they are offering to help you, you’ll shit at least twice in your pants.

    Ignorant people allows that to happen.
    The people deserves their gov.

    More Questions: Oh yes! We have seen better days when hawkers were not so hard-pressed with high rentals and other fees. One reason why prices of hawker food keeps escalating is because of all these added costs to hawkers. They used to have assistants to collect their own cutleries and clean the tables after customers finished their meals.

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  • Hu Sen Ong Jaffar:

    Finally, this one could not blame on the ccp of the middle commie land!

    mike:
    Precisely, policians suppose to create problems to solve them in order to be seen as useful or cannot do without them.

    The hawker used to collect their cutleries because they are non disposable, need to be washed by themselves and reuse it to serve meals. They can only have limited amount of non-disposable cutleries, bowls, plates to the space they have. Without collecting those cutleries, bowls and plates back to wash, they were unable to serve more meals.

    Thus, they have to employ part timers to collect back their items to wash, take order and serve meals. All part of job scope. Or they (the hawkers) have to do it themselves.

    Brilliant ideas comes about to use DISPOSABLE. The selling points were to ‘save cost’ and ‘deliver more’ which means PROFITS.

    Was that the case? Perhaps initially. Many part-timers became ‘jobless’.
    Who make more profits — The one selling disposables, to many more hawkers who use them more aggressively.
    Well, that time there was no such thing as CARBON FOOT PRINT.

    As time goes by, there was lesser need to collect those disposables (disposable! Stupid to collect them back! And how to tell its mine and not from the opposite stall?) and they look all similar, new problems created. Pay more for centralized rubbish clearing.

    So some hawkers start to go back to usage of non-disposable, and ask for reduction of cleaning cost from the management. But now harder to find part-timers.

    New problems, more were returning to non-disposable, the ‘contractors’ profits impacted. The SOLUTION is to central cleaning of those non-disposables. Once again, contractor made money by economics of scale.

    Then… to make more money, change workers from SGrean to malaysian, to India or any other cheap labour sources allowed.

    Finally, reduce headcounts to sustain profitability and then fast forward… here we are FINED when we don’t clear the cutleries.

    The one who provide solutions are usually the one ‘creating’ those problems.

    Just like if a gov is NOT useful, why you need them. If they are offering to help you, you’ll shit at least twice in your pants.

    Ignorant people allows that to happen.
    The people deserves their gov.

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  • Uncle Lim:

    I totally agree with Simon.

    Here everything either attracts a fine or payment ( especially car parking ).

    Well, it’s in character to collect more and more $$$$.

    Legislation is an easy and lazy way to solve a problem.

    Serve the daft right.

    Bully you again and again you keep quiet that’s why.

    What do the suckers think?

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  • Uncle Lim:

    Look, LTA enforcement battalions go all over the island and to private estates 24/7 to book motorists for illegal parking.

    It’s not about the parking actually but it’s all about greed.

    Serve all the suckers right!!

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  • Uncle Lim:

    The bureaucrats will be happy writing reports and looking busy.

    Crony companies will be involved in the supervision. More JB people on motorbikes will be tasked to carry out the enforcement just like their LTA counterparts.

    Crony companies selling CCTV will benefit.

    Regime will give themselves extra bonuses with all the free money.

    Much ado about nothing. A new low for Leegim and Pariahment.

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  • Smart Nation:

    By making diners clear their trays and cutleries after meals, cleaning companies can cut down on the number of cleaners to just to the easy part – wipe the tables. Now they have an excuse for lowering the wages of cleaners for doing less work. They make you do the clearing for them to save on manpower costs but you still pay the same prices for your meals until the next price hike.

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  • KT:

    After the intended fines ($$$$) for failing to clean your dinning tables at hawker ctrs, what next ? Could it be failing to get vaccinated, another new law will come out ? Or not vaccinated, cannot travel or visit hawker centres, malls, cinemas, etc etc. ? Passports will be stamped “vaccinated” liao, I mean akan datang !

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  • mike:

    There is nothing worth putting blame on CCP.
    It is what it is.

    I am more interested to lead the 50c of Middle Commie Land, train them like puppy and entertain my days.

    A great saint will raise from the east.
    All after a storm of furious sub-atomic winds.

    We deserve the world we living today.
    When a person see it as blame, this person see only himself.

    Hu Sen Ong Jaffar:
    Finally, this one could not blame on the ccp of the middle commie land!

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  • clear lah:

    Clear lah…what so difficult?
    Make it a better experience for the next dinner…could be YOU!!!!

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  • No discrimination Policy:

    No discrimination Policy please.
    Not in the right direction.
    Respect people’s choice.

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  • Hu Sen Ong Jaffar:

    WAO!

    So so philosophical!

    You meant u r part of the “storm “ or you believe u r the saint?

    Walaoeh! Baytahan!

    mike:
    There is nothing worth putting blame on CCP.
    It is what it is.

    I am more interested to lead the 50c of Middle Commie Land, train them like puppy and entertain my days.

    A great saint will raise from the east.
    All after a storm of furious sub-atomic winds.

    We deserve the world we living today.
    When a person see it as blame, this person see only himself.

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