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Address the concern about vaccination of young people

Five doctors wrote an open letter urging the Ministry of Health to suspend the vaccination of young people due to a few recent cases of serious side effects reported in America.

The Ministry of Health gave this reply and released the relevant statistics.

I agree with the MOH expert panel.

The risk of harm is very low and the benefits of the vaccination outweigh the risk.

However, I do not agree with the approach taken my MOH in giving a reply through the media.

The panel should appoint one of its members to talk to the doctors and hear their concerns.

I also believe that the judgment should be left to the experts, rather than outside parties (which I would include the five doctors).

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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16 Responses to “Address the concern about vaccination of young people”

  • I wonder if had one of Mr Tan’s grandchildren suffered a serious adverse event after getting vaccinated (touch wood), would he be writing this very same article today.

    It is very easy to talk rubbish when the one suffering isn’t related, just like what the so-called experts in the C19 task force have been BSing about “benefits outweighing the risk”.

    Let one of their loved ones or one of the LEEders children kenna solid solid and see if they will repeat the same BS.

    What do you think?

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  • oxygen:

    Covid vaccine is said to disrupt the menstrual cycle of fertile women. What if it is discovered later the vaccine jab on young boys threw up a lot (maybe a majority) with erectile dysfunction?

    IT IS BEGINNING OF HUMAN EXTINCTION or is it not?

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  • oxygen:

    @ TKL

    Another masterpiece of fairytale from your fertile mind.

    The so-called “medical experts” in the world keeping watch over covid vaccine safety is EVEN MORE CONFUSED LOT than medical general practitioners and the manipulative political cows who hedged their own safety risks.

    ScoMo and Australia declined an early offer opportunity of 40 million doses of Pfizer vaccine in July 2020 BUT ScoMo miraculous got hold of 2 doses of Pfizer jabs in February this year (i.e. 6 months later).

    Please read my further rejoinder to @ Scotmo skeptical about vaccine in this thread

    China vaccine

    https://www.tremeritus.net/2021/06/26/china-vaccine/

    particularly the scathing comment from Dr.Bernard Shiu

    Berrnard Shiu: We are in a very interesting situation. Are we listening to the Prime Minister [for] the legal guidelines of what we are capable of, or should we listen to the TGA [Therapeutic Goods Administration] and ATAGI as our clinical fallback system?”

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/despite-pm-s-az-announcement-ama-urges-under-60s-to-wait-for-pfizer-20210629-p585d7.html

    Even Ah Beng, Ah Seng old uncles and Ah Lians old until knows that the vulnerable (not to Covid but to) blood clot, stroke and heart attacks death (then cleverly buried under the categorisation of “cormobidities deaths” post vaccination.

    @ TKL, go and sell your sn*ke oil political chanting elsewhere on covid 19 pandemic no wisdom of yours, thanks!

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  • oxygen:
    Covid vaccine is said to disrupt the menstrual cycle of fertile women. What if it is discovered later the vaccine jab on young boys threw up a lot (maybe a majority) with erectile dysfunction?

    IT IS BEGINNING OF HUMAN EXTINCTION or is it not?

    With impotent men and infertile women on the island, Sinkieland can then kiss TFR goodbye. But then, not an issue to the LEEders because they can then loud loud say need to import FTs to give babies because Sinkies are no longer able to produce babies to keep the GDP ‘growing’. lol

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  • balancing the whole eco-system:

    //What if it is discovered later the vaccine jab on young boys threw up a lot (maybe a majority) with erectile dysfunction?

    IT IS BEGINNING OF HUMAN EXTINCTION or is it not?//

    hahaha. maybe it is nature’s way of balancing the whole eco-system (it’s time to “decimate” the human number as they have been “decimating” a lot of things ????) ???? time (as it is relative) will tell whether human beings are really genius as we like to believe we are (such vanity ???) ???

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  • oxygen:

    @ TRE Techie

    IN MEDICAL SCIENCE, I dare say Australia is FAR FAR AHEAD of LEE-jiapore. Yet looking at how THOROUGHLY CONFUSED MOB is in vaccination roll-out as documented in my comments in this thread

    China vaccine

    https://www.tremeritus.net/2021/06/26/china-vaccine/

    particularly the scathing comment from Dr.Bernard Shiu

    I have COMPELLING APPREHENSION that any wild optimism and confidence publicly on display BY ONE PREFERRED POLITICAL NARRATIVE elsewhere is false bravado, confidence and arrogance LIKELY TO BACKFIRE very badly.

    ALL THE COVID VACCINES have failed – from Chile, to Brazil to now UK (third wave) and sending shivers in Asian economies and Down Under (of course) unprecedented since its eruption in 2019.

    I have said repeatedly in TRE month ago – if it is not safe in remote mining camps, it is NOT SAFE for the rest of the world of pandemic infection escape.

    Everywhere I read of from official quarters is LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.

    Those vaccinated already has no return – it is come what it may, stick to trying out failed vaccines or its hocus pocus medicinal concoction from now on – for better or worst.

    IS THERE NOT ENOUGH DAMAGE ALREADY DONE?

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  • xoxo:

    TKL is the Devil’s Advocate-extraordinaire.

    @oxygen,TKL will tell you the vaccines are better than vigra.
    He knows becos his stood up for the very first time after 30 years after taking the vaccine?

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  • MarBowling:

    TRE Techie:
    July 1, 2021 at 9:16 am (Quote)
    I wonder if had one of Mr Tan’s grandchildren suffered a serious adverse event after getting vaccinated (touch wood), would he be writing this very same article today.

    It is very easy to talk rubbish when the one suffering isn’t related, just like what the so-called experts in the C19 task force have been BSing about “benefits outweighing the risk”.

    Let one of their loved ones or one of the LEEders children kenna solid solid and see if they will repeat the same BS.

    What do you think?

    Response: THINK Tan Golden Chain is a CONFIRMED Mole of the PAPigs. Because of this joker, Dr Tan Cheng Bok couldn’t become our LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT, period.

    This old coot got the cheek to REPEAT and UTTER this BS and NONSENSE: “The RISK OF HARM is VERY LOW and the BENEFITS of the VACCINATION OUTWEIGH the RISK”!

    HARM: we, and especially the earlier 12 doctors and subsequently another 5 doctors who penned the OPEN LETTERS are VERY VERY CONCERNED and WORRIED about the LOONG TERM EFFECT of Western mRNA vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna administered into our children and grandchildren. The GIST of the matter is WHY the HURRY to VACCINATE THEM? Resume OPEN-LEG Policy ASAP and FULFILL the promised 4-6% GDP Holee Number?????

    BENEFITS: what sort of blady benefits is Tan Golden Chain SPEWING ABOUT? It’s almost 1 and half year since the outbreak of Covid19 and its latest Indian variant, HOW MANY CHILDREN have been INFECTED, NEVER RECOVERED and DIED? Btw, NEWS of cases of children Kenna INFECTED although SURFACED BUT ONLY HIGHLIGHTED when CCS(Cotton Comes from Shits)becomes the World Class Minister of Education! Smell a Rat! Obvious BENEFIT will be the ONE who sold us the $billions worth of Pfizer and Modena vaccines that have only 6 months shelf life and due to expire soon! BENEFIT will be the Holee One who has INVESTED $150 millions of taxpayers hard earned into pharmaceutical company Pfizer! Benefit will be Tan Golden Chain being invited SOON to be a member or maybe in charge of the Trash Force to handle Covid19 in SinKapore!

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  • THEIR OWN SET OF EXPERTS:

    //I also believe that the judgment should be left to the experts, rather than outside parties (which I would include the five doctors).//

    well, you are right hor if the social compact and trust is strong ???

    however hor, experts also got to take instruction from pay masters lar ??? wear mask do not wear masks ? restrict and then open-up ?? if lucky, one can also be appointed as expert lar ???

    aiyoh. have you ventured a thought whether certain countries which do not have certain vaccines as we do as part of their convit99 vaccine programme HAVE THEIR OWN SET OF EXPERTS (perhaps many times more expertrest than ours ????) who may advise otherwise ???

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  • What arethe medical criteria?:

    Four Pillars of Medical Ethics

    This is a framework for analysing the best action to take in a given situation. To use this approach, you must consider whether your actions are in compliance with each of these pillars.

    The four pillars of medical ethics are:

    * Beneficence (doing good)
    * Non-maleficence (to do no harm)
    * Autonomy (giving the patient the freedom to choose freely, where they are able)
    * Justice (ensuring fairness)

    CONSEQUENTIALISM is an ethical concept which states that the Morality of an action is dependent purely on its consequences. A simpler way to phrase this would be that the “ends justify the means”; meaning that if your action has an overall benefit, then whatever the nature of that action itself does not matter.

    *To address the current vaccination concerns it is imperative to keep in mind the relevant ethical principles and scope of discussion.

    UTILITARIANISM says the best action is that action which brings about the best utility (benefit). Utility is generally considered on a broad scale, often taking into consideration the wider society and not just the patient in question. It’s a form of Consequentialism.

    DEONTOLOGY is also known as “duty-based ethics”. This principle states that the correct course of action depends on what your personal duties and obligations are. It means that the Morality of an action is based on whether you followed the correct rules and regulations, rather than what the consequence of following them would bring about.
    This is in direct contrast to consequentialism.

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  • Politically Correct Conspiracy:

    oxygen: With impotent men and infertile women on the island, Sinkieland can then kiss TFR goodbye. But then, not an issue to the LEEders because they can then loud loud say need to import FTs to give babies because Sinkies are no longer able to produce babies to keep the GDP ‘growing’. lol

    I have come across this conspiracy many years back. They (world elites) probably have a covet plan to depopulate the world. Could this be the one? I have read pregnant women experiencing miscarriages and men having prostrate problem related to the vaccine. These information are currently politically incorrect and thus are suppressed by the MSM.

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  • Politically Incorrect:

    oxygen:
    Covid vaccine is said to disrupt the menstrual cycle of fertile women. What if it is discovered later the vaccine jab on young boys threw up a lot (maybe a majority) with erectile dysfunction?

    IT IS BEGINNING OF HUMAN EXTINCTION or is it not?

    I have come across this conspiracy many years back. They (world elites) probably have a covet plan to depopulate the world. Could this be the one? I have read pregnant women experiencing miscarriages and men having prostrate problem related to the vaccine. These information are currently politically incorrect and thus are suppressed by the MSM.

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  • pareto principle:

    //They (world elites) probably have a covet plan to depopulate the world. Could this be the one?//

    aiyoh. not like that lar ?? the top (the elites) need as many people as possible to service their businesses and to ‘exploit’ lar – e.g that’s how the mechanics of wealth concentration works (eg pareto principle & pyramidal top-down ????) ???? you need as many people as possible for the elites to play the uneven game – to extract, capture and to rent-seek value ???

    any idea why the white idiots like the open-leg policy so much while ‘reserving’ the title of high-talent and posh positions for themselves (keep on stressing on one curry party function ???) – and ‘complaining’ about low tfr and aging problems ????

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  • oxygen:

    @ Politically incorrect.

    I THOUGHT FASCINATING that you made this comment.

    Politically Incorrect: I have come across this conspiracy many years back. They (world elites) probably have a covet plan to depopulate the world. Could this be the one?

    I stumbled across a similar notation in another weblink which basically ‘CONFIRMED” what your comment referred to as “to depopulate the world”

    Bill Gate :The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent.”

    The writer making this observation wrote these words –

    “You don’t have to take my word for it, you can take it from the devil himself starting at the 4:30 mark of the video below.

    To our demise, we keep making the mistake of thinking that billionaires are rational people who have moralities like us. The reality is that people like Bill and Melinda Gates are sociopaths who are willing to throw humanity over the cliff in order to remake the world in their image.”

    IF THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS – The weblink is here.

    Initially, I didn’t paid too much attention to this “depopulate agenda” but after reviewing through the video at the 4.30 minute mark and your comment here, I AM THINKING TOO of possibility because the world is over-population relative to resources base and climate change pressures destroying the entire humanity.

    And the easiest way to depopulate is to sterilise the young so that they can’t multiply as the older generations faded into the horizon of inevitable mortality ending.

    It is hard to dismiss entirely the “conspiracy theory”.

    https://ghionjournal.com/meet-dr-tedros-adhanom-bill-gates-ally/

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  • oxygen:

    @ Politically incorrect

    sorry posting order error, the paragraph below

    oxygen: IF THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS – The weblink is here.

    Initially, I didn’t paid too much attention to this “depopulate agenda” but after reviewing through the video at the 4.30 minute mark and your comment here, I AM THINKING TOO of possibility because the world is over-population relative to resources base and climate change pressures destroying the entire humanity.

    And the easiest way to depopulate is to sterilise the young so that they can’t multiply as the older generations faded into the horizon of inevitable mortality ending.

    It is hard to dismiss entirely the “conspiracy theory”.

    https://ghionjournal.com/meet-dr-tedros-adhanom-bill-gates-ally/

    should appear like this

    oxygen: IF THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS – The weblink is here.

    https://ghionjournal.com/meet-dr-tedros-adhanom-bill-gates-ally

    Initially, I didn’t paid too much attention to this “depopulate agenda” but after reviewing through the video at the 4.30 minute mark and your comment here, I AM THINKING TOO of possibility because the world is over-population relative to resources base and climate change pressures destroying the entire humanity.

    And the easiest way to depopulate is to sterilise the young so that they can’t multiply as the older generations faded into the horizon of inevitable mortality ending.

    It is hard to dismiss entirely the “conspiracy theory”.

    /

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Reported on Straits Times :Quote-”Teen suffers cardiac arrest after weightlifting session 6 days after first Covid-19 jab

    The teen received his first dose of the vaccine on June 27, 2021.ST PHOTO: GAVIN FOO

    Timothy Goh
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    SINGAPORE – A 16-year-old youth collapsed following a weightlifting session six days after his first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech/Comirnaty Covid-19 vaccine.

    In a statement on Monday (July 5), the Ministry of Health said that the teenager is currently in critical condition in the intensive care unit at the National University Hospital (NUH).

    He received his first dose of the vaccine on June 27, and was assessed by trained healthcare personnel to be suitable for vaccination at the time, said a ministry spokesman.

    The teen was observed on-site for about 30 minutes following his vaccination and was well during the time.

    According to the spokesman, the teenager was also well for the following five days after his vaccination.

    On July 3, he went to the gym to lift weights. The spokesman added that the teen trained with “very heavy weights which were above his body weight”.

    He collapsed at home later that morning, and was taken to the emergency department at Khoo Teck Puat Hospital, which alerted the ministry to the incident.

    He was transferred to NUH later that evening.

    MOH’s spokesman said the ministry is currently in contact with the medical team at NUH that is providing close medical care for the patient.

    “The preliminary diagnosis of his condition is an out-of-hospital cardiac arrest. Clinical and laboratory tests are in progress to understand the underlying cause,” said the spokesman.

    He added that MOH will work with the medical team in NUH to determine if the incident might be linked to the teen’s Covid-19 vaccination.

    This investigation will include a thorough consideration of whether there was acute severe myocarditis, which is severe inflammation of the heart muscles affecting the heart function.

    The expert committee on Covid-19 vaccination will also monitor the outcome of this investigation.

    MORE ON THIS TOPIC
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    In the meantime, following a review of local and overseas data, the committee and the Health Sciences Authority (HSA) recommended on Monday that people should avoid strenuous physical activity after receiving either of their mRNA Covid-19 vaccination doses.

    This is an update from the committee’s previous advisory on June 11, which recommended that those vaccinated should avoid strenuous physical activity for one week only after their second dose of the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines…..”Unquote.

    Response :Critical condition in ICU ? Why no name ? No name easy to cover up everything and no need to hold responsibility ? Like that also can ? Pui !

    Tech: *Touch Wood* If he dies, the cause of death would be due to “weight lifting” and definitely not because of the C19 vaccine.

    All the bloody BS about MOH monitoring, keep close watch, simi so-called experts all wayang kulit, for show nia, wanna bet?

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