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Do you feel cheated?

Do you feel cheated?

Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson&Johnson have all found evidence that suggests their vaccines continue to provide substantial protection for up to six months, but there’s still a question of what happens after that. Now, Pfizer is saying immunity may wane over time in the face of the more infectious Delta variant, and the company announced it would be seeking authorization for a third booster shot of its vaccine in August.

A vaccination that could only last 6 months…With known and unknown risk.

 

Goh Meng Seng

 

 

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26 Responses to “Do you feel cheated?”

  • I think the title of the article should be changed to “Do you feel screwed?”

    Like I said many times liao, kenna bitten by C19 virus, you get 1 chance of dying from C19-related causes.

    However, by taking the vaccine, you add another chance of dying from C19-related causes like heart attack, blood clog, etc.

    Now comes booster shots, so every time take booster, every time add another chance of dying or serious injuries.

    Those already taken the shots are now stuck in a dilemma, like playing Russian roulette every time when taking booster shots.

    Anyone disagreeing?

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  • It can't be:

    Pfizer and Moderna Vaccines Likely to Produce Lasting Immunity, Study Finds
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/health/coronavirus-vaccines-immunity.html

    ““It’s a good sign for how durable our immunity is from this vaccine,” said Ali Ellebedy, an immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis who led the study, which was published in the journal Nature.”

    IF nytimes say it, it must be true, the absolute truth.

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  • No Sinovac:

    Goh can talk and talk and talk, we will still not take Sinovac!

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  • Latest from Israel: 64%:

    Pfizer efficacy has dropped from the pfizer self claimed 94% to 64%.As time goes by and more results release and generalisation, expect even lower. At the same time, more side effects will be released such as shortness of breath and headache (go ask around) .

    Tech: Heard from a neighbor who took 2 Pfizer shots before he returned from the states, almost everyday got on and off headache at times c/w dizziness, he don’t even dare to drive liao. See doctor many many times, check here and check there. Other than the conventional medication for dizziness and pain, little doctors can do. He regret to this day, see people one time curse Pfizer one time. Sibei jialut!

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  • liew mun long must be jailed:

    selective selection.

    any variant, via the 3rd jab, dies mostly.

    also, how many have died from 1 jab in pap island so far?

    and, how many have died from 2 jabs in pap island so far?

    trying to paint something white when it is not is called whitewash. this is no different from trying to scare the unaware about vaccination. the vaccines save lives.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Stopid GMS. You are 2 headed snake and working for Cheena CCP.

    Dear Singaporeans, tell me who got cheated.
    Be forewarned.

    href=”#comment-1894287″ rel=”nofollow”>disaster to Singapore.

    Never trust Opposition. Oppositions are 2 headed snake.
    In Malaysia, Dr M said he will remove GST tax. Yes, he removed GST but merely rename it SST tax.

    Stopid Malaysians, got con by Opposition and was cheated big time.

    In ROC Taiwan, before TSai DPP opposition grab power, she said people’s can raise their voice and bang table if government don’t listen.

    After Tsai DPP opposition party is elected, she ban all people from criticizing her and bang table….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzBTcBOSKY

    ROC people got no vaccine and demand for vaccine but moron SG Opposition against it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R0CEnpMZew

    Stopid ROC, got con by Opposition and was cheated big time.

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.HuatAgain
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$

    Tech: Other than re-cycling the same old crap, I fail to see any of your postings actually tackling the comment at all, a complete waste of byte space and moderators time. I would ask that moderators delete such crap in future.

    P/S: I will also be tweaking the backend to disallow embeding HTML into comments, don’t you think its very unsightly? BTW, this will be your last repeatedly “copy and paste same old crap” as far as TRE is concerned, please comment properly. Thank you.

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  • oxygen:

    @ It can’t be:

    NYT is a publishing house, it has credibility to protect and preserve BUT IT IS REPORTING ONE FINDINGS only. Our own Changi cluster reveals it is ACTUAL EXPOSURE to virus infection that impact on the RISKS OUTCOME space. That was pre-Covid Delta variant spread. In that instance, there were equal balance of those vaccinated and unvaccinated got infected.

    The same is found in this UK study of actual hospital outcome of fatalities as the Covid Delta surged.

    https://sg.yahoo.com/news/vaccines-working-expected-preventing-covid-160029862.html

    My elaborations and explanation is found in this thread.

    https://www.tremeritus.net/2021/07/06/denouncing-ministry-of-health-of-singapore-you-have-blood-on-your-hands/#comment-1926514

    The over 50s fully-vaccinated is found to have as equal proportion as the unvaccinated of actual fatalities – meaning, vaccination has no impact once you are infected.

    So the empirical evidence from studies is conflicting of discovery of facts.

    BUT I STILL SEE A FAIR BIT OF MINE CLOSURES in remote geography reported to the stock exchanges – where wilderness of space offer almost unlimited space for social distancing inhibiting pandemic spread – BUT COVID DELTA IS HIGHLY TRANSMISSIBLE AND NASTY and it is dominating the third wave sweep across the globe.

    If vaccine is the cure or protective immunity defence, no mining entity will shut down mines costing tens of millions of dollars and maybe over 100 millions to re-start latter. SHAREHOLDERS WILL EXPLODE.

    IT IS FAR CHEAPER TO CHARTER A FLIGHT AND BRING IN VACCINE TO JAB MINE WORKERS but it is futile fanciful hope and dream of beneficial outcome touted by big Pharma.

    So there is compelling field evidence that vaccine currently available is useless – particularly against Covid Delta. Just look at Chile and Brazil.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    Tech: Other than re-cycling the same old crap, I fail to see any of your postings actually tackling the comment at all, a complete waste of byte space and moderators time. I would ask that moderators delete such crap in future.

    We PAP are telling truth. Why Opposition supporters dare not face the truth that they had been conned big time by their opposition party ?

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    P/S: I will also be tweaking the backend to disallow embeding HTML into comments, don’t you think its very unsightly? BTW, this will be your last repeatedly “copy and paste same old crap” as far as TRE is concerned, please comment properly. Thank you.

    Let me save you the trouble. I will just stop embeding HTML.

    Tech: Great, thank you.

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  • Anti mRNA:

    It’s really CONFLICTING!

    https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2021/07/10/health-minister-ong-says-need-booster-shots-while-us-cdc-and-fda-say-no-need/

    {“We continue to review any new data as it becomes available and will keep the public informed. We are prepared for booster doses if and when the science demonstrates that they are needed,” the US authorities concluded….. That is to say, the US federal authorities don’t just rely on what the pharmaceutical companies said. They would do their own studies too.}

    “Ong said that since the vaccines are effective for between one and two years, the boosters may be needed to augment immunity and better fight against new variants that may emerge.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/28/health/coronavirus-vaccines-immunity.html

    ““It’s a good sign for how durable our immunity is from this vaccine,” said Ali Ellebedy, an immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis who led the study, which was published in the journal Nature.”

    https://bestlifeonline.com/pfizer-vaccine-protects-news/

    “The coronavirus vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech appears to still be highly effective at protecting individuals against symptomatic cases of COVID for at least six months after the second dose, according to a study released by the companies on April 1.”

    How can it depends on where you are?

    Rightly it should depend on YOURSELF because it is YOUR LIFE!

    You DECIDE to jab or not!
    You DECIDE to boost or not!

    IT IS YOUR LIFE!

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    TRE Techie:
    I think the title of the article should be changed to “Do you feel screwed?”

    Like I said many times liao, kenna bitten by C19 virus, you get 1 chance of dying from C19-related causes.

    However, by taking the vaccine, you add another chance of dying from C19-related causes like heart attack, blood clog, etc.

    Now comes booster shots, so every time take booster, every time add another chance of dying or serious injuries.

    Those already taken the shots are now stuck in a dilemma, like playing Russian roulette every time when taking booster shots.

    Anyone disagreeing?

    Talk is cheap. So, what is your solution for COVID ?
    To vax or not to vax ?

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Huat Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$

    Tech: I am not paid millions for solutions. I have not taken the shot neither have most of my family members in China (I advised them against it) and they agreed with me. The best solution is to follow countries which have contained the virus and then practice safety ownself, avoid the sanger zones and cheong little. Why bother to take the shot and risk a chance of getting dead or paralysed?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    liew mun long must be jailed:
    selective selection.

    ……

    trying to paint something white when it is not is called whitewash. this is no different from trying to scare the unaware about vaccination. the vaccines save lives.

    Well said … well said … the vaccines save lives.
    Opposition is always spreading fake news….
    But supporters of Opposition party always love fake news….
    They don’t want and dare not face up the hard truth.

    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.and.Huat.Again
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Tech: Other than re-cycling the same old crap, I fail to see any of your postings actually tackling the comment at all, a complete waste of byte space and moderators time. I would ask that moderators delete such crap in future.

    P/S: I will also be tweaking the backend to disallow embeding HTML into comments, don’t you think its very unsightly? BTW, this will be your last repeatedly “copy and paste same old crap” as far as TRE is concerned, please comment properly. Thank you.

    Waiting for what? Ban this mother-f la!

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  • mRNA vaxvictim:

    It is a lengthy article! Take time to read:
    https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/

    “What I find deeply disturbing is the lack of transparency on how dangerous the current COVID vaccines are. Healthy people could end up dead or permanently disabled at a rate that is “off the charts” compared with any other vaccine in our history. Look at the death report in our government’s official Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) summarized in the tweet below. This is the most deadly vaccine we’ve ever made by a long shot. That’s why they have to give you incentives to get vaccinated. They need to vaccinate everyone BEFORE people read this article or watch this video of Dr. Peter McCullough explaining clearly why the current COVID vaccines are unsafe and completely unnecessary for our children.”

    We need to PAUSE these vaccines NOW before more people are killed.

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  • xoxo:

    Big pharma$ are more concerned with making BIG BUCK$ ,with the gelp of govts,than searching for a really GOOD COVID VACCINE.

    BOOSTER JAB$ WILL INCREASE THEIR BOTTOM-LINE$,WHY BOTHER TO COME UP WITH A GLOBALLY SOLID VACCINE?

    THIS IS THE REALITY.
    MONEY IS THEIR GOD N MI$$ION.

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  • Bbc:

    Is it safe and no limit for the body as to continuously intake the vaccines?

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    CONvinced & CONvicted

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  • mRNA RIP:

    https://austingwalters.com/covid19-vaccine-risks/

    “The stopping condition of a typical vaccine is 25-50 deaths. But there isn’t a stopping condition for this vaccine! It appears we’ve killed over 25,800 people (based on CDC “unexplained deaths”) and nobody is batting an eye. The CDC is focused on how to vaccinate more people. Clinics today report as high as a 10:1 ratio of vaccine-related cases to COVID cases. So now we have a new health emergency: deaths and disability from the vaccine.”

    Now I understand why the authorities keep saying “unexplained deaths or deaths not related to mRNA vaccines!”

    By now there should be enough deaths to withdraw the mRNA vaccines!

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  • Too much unknown:

    How effective is the Vaccine against new strains?
    Too much unknown about this Virus mutation…
    Need to monitor further….No need to rush..

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  • michael:

    as times goes on, more side effect will be revealed..

    It is a long term shot to hell . The government are too naive.
    might pretend that the vaccine is not the problem, the rats are.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Vice versa. Feel protected instead.

    I finished my 2 shots. No side effects or whatever. Done 2 rounds of 5km run last 2 weeks. Go public toilet take a dump , always dont wear masks. So far so good.

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  • opposition dude:

    A vaccine is pretty lousy if it can only provide 6 months of protection. Who the hell has got the time to get jabbed more than once a year?

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  • Sheep:

    Feel not = truth.

    You could be an asymptomatic case happily spreading virus around.

    PAP mandate strong:
    Vice versa. Feel protected instead.

    I finished my 2 shots. No side effects or whatever. Done 2 rounds of 5km run last 2 weeks. Go public toilet take a dump , always dont wear masks. So far so good.

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  • xoxo:

    Its very straightforward to my simple mind.
    IF BIG PHarna$ can CONcoct Boo$ter Vaccine$,WHY THEY CANNOT COME OUT WITH A REALLY EFFICACIOUS VACCINE THAT CAN HELP HUMANS ALL OVER TO GET OUT OF THIS SITUATION?

    Is it THEY CANNOT OR DONT WANT TO?
    *$$$* MAY BE THE REAL CULORIT,NOT COVID,PER SE???

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  • xoxo:

    I am not saying *MAKING PROFITS* IS WRONG.
    i am thinking *JUST MAKING MONEY* may be THE WRONG approach?

    Take a modern day example.
    Thomas Edison.
    He wad an American businessman and prolific INVENTOR who ,besides making profits out of his inventions ptobably,he did the world good!

    Why cant BIG PHARMA BOSSES THINK N DO LIKEWISE?
    Besides n beyond SHIRT-TERM *PROFITEERing*,Big Pharmas may want to THINK ABOUT *SUSTAINABLE PROFIT-MAKING* OVER THE LONG RUN FROM BUILDING *GOODWILL* INTO THEIR BALANCE SHEET?

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  • tikam tikam:

    //Talk is cheap. So, what is your solution for COVID ?
    To vax or not to vax ?///

    hahahahaha ??? watch any movies where they have to remove the host in order to solve the problem ??? frightening hor ?? CONVIT99 is here to teach us a good lesson (analogy – which is like presenting human mankind a mathematical problem which no one can solve as yet ???) and make us fight over the best solution ???

    solution ??? vax is the solution but it must be a effective vax not 1, 2, 3, 4 … 999 boosters (tikam tikam ???) and then every year with potential adverse effects ??

    and do not think that every problem has a solution, sometimes we adapt to a half-baked solution and a more worst situation thinking that we have solved (totally eradicating the original problem ??) ???

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  • SlowBoiling:

    This is an irresponsible approach to artificial herd immunity. Many people not governments will be paying for their decisions slowly but surely. Developing accurate population serology tests necessary to assess herd immunity to implement and adjust vaccination.
    Very much saddened but no pity even though few can understand the trial data nor request for the necessary missing data.

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