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Why the people of China largely support the Chinese Communist Party

Many people in Singapore have the impression that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is oppressive and is hated by the people.

I read a report from a survey conducted by Harvard University that China has the highest score on the question of trust in government. 82% of the respondents, who are the ordinary people of China, trusted their government, which is run by the CCP.

The survey results are shown here.

On the same survey, only 42% of the respondents in America trusted their government.

Why do the people of China give a high score in trusting their government?

As the survey was carried out by a reputable American university, I believe that respondents were not voting out of fear.

I want to share a story which may explain the high level of trust.

During the covid-19 crisis in Wuhan, over 2,000 doctors and nurses came from all the provinces of China to Wuhan to help the local doctors and nurses to cope with the pandemic.

I saw the video coverage of these volunteers flying into Wuhan. I was moved by the high level of patriotism.

Later, I learned from another source that most of the volunteers were members of the CCP. They responded to a call by the CCP to help in Wuhan. They volunteered out of a sense to serve the people, which was what they pledged to do.

The CCP has 90 million members, representing about 7% of the population of China.  It was possible to find sufficient doctors and nurses to work in Wuhan.

To be accepted into the CCP, the member has to pledge loyalty to the party, to the constitution of China and to serve the people of China.  They also have to attend study sessions to learn about political and governance issues.

This dedication from the doctors and nurses, who were members of CCP, must have touched the people at large. This was a clear demonstration about how the CCP served the people.

I am sure that the CCP members must be active in other areas, such as the effort to improve the living standard of the people living in the poor regions of China.

Indeed, I also watched a video showing  one such person. He worked an entire career in the proverty alleviation program, even though he was paid a modest remuneration. He had to spend a large part of his time away from his family who lived in Beijing.

It is possible that these stories are the propaganda of the CCP. My common sense tells me that they are likely to be true. That is probably the reason for the high support and regard of the people to the CCP.

Of course, this still leaves 18% of the people who do not like the CCP for various reasons.

I like to ask the people in Singapore who hold a negative view about the CCP to learn more about the actual situation in China. Maybe, they will change their view.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

 

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56 Responses to “Why the people of China largely support the Chinese Communist Party”

  • K P M G:

    Do we TRUST the PAP ?

    When . . .

    TRUST is the enemy of CONTROL

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  • Pinky is useless anyway:

    Ah Tan, lucky you did not become our EP. Honestly, this is very kiddy story.

    Lets say Singapore, there are also many RC members who really want to help Singaporeans, they also get very little or nothing for doing their work. So what you are saying in China also can happen in Singapore. But there are many also in RCs only there to play politics, to advance their career, finding a way to the top. You think China any difference?

    I worked in China for several years, I did see the low level people who did all these social work believing that it was their part to help the people and the country. I also saw a lot of high ranking officials finding ways to milk the system using their positions and power.

    Most of the high ranking officials, they are FREAKING RICH, including President Xi. His pay is only $4,000 SGD a month, how did he manage to be so rich? Yes there are thousand of CCP low level members who really believe the system and never question a bit on why their high ranking all so freaking rich. Isn’t it same in Singapore?

    Ah Tan, the more I see you post, I am starting to question how you become CEO?!!!

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  • mike:

    Dear @ TKL

    :DDD

    Why the survey don’t have SG and North Korea?

    Funny lah!

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  • Chinese Boat:

    @Tan Kin Lian,
    this is called brain washing lah! Same like our old Singapore generation!
    Just like you lor! Last time you got brain washed by PAP, now you got brain washed by CCP!

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  • oxygen:

    SINCE WHEN IS EDELMEN RESEARCH is Harvard University or speaks for Harvard University?

    Another fairytale in TRE

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  • oxygen:

    WAS THE SURVEY for Chinese respondents done in Mandarin or in English. If it was in English, the subject respondents must, most likely, come from the elite class.

    The sample surveyed, most likely, a BIAS pool of HIGHLY EDUCATED AND WEALTHY respondents and the conclusion reached is FLAWED and RUBBISH.

    No valid conclusion or inferences can be validly made from the survey outcome.

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  • SS:

    Singapore Sheep trust in gov went up 6%, from 62 to 68%.

    https://www.edelman.com/sites/g/files/aatuss191/files/2021-03/2021%20Edelman%20Trust%20Barometer_Singapore%20Country%20Report_1.pdf

    However, “Our government leaders are purposely trying to mislead people by saying things they know are false or gross exaggerations” has 50% support.

    Perhaps some respondents said they trusted the gov to lie to them!

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  • Hi-Five Tan:

    The figures for NKorea would show 100% trust in the government; and we would not be surprised.
    TKL should spent a couple of years living in China; then his opinion would carry far more weight.
    Ditto for all the oldies China and Sinovac lovers.
    CCP propaganda machinery is producing great results in Sinkiestan, judging by the queue for Sinovac.

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  • xoxo:

    Are you sure,TKL?
    IF PAP GO TO CHINA ,MAYBE PAP WILL WIN BIG?
    RT
    BUT THEY CANT SUKA SUKA PUT PART OF SERANGOON UNDER MARINE PARADE GRC???

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  • Smart Nation:

    It seems like you have been watching CCP’s propaganda media. This sounds to me like brain-washing sessions: “To be accepted into the CCP, the member has to pledge loyalty to the party, to the constitution of China and to serve the people of China. They also have to attend study sessions to learn about political and governance issues.” Does the PAP not have similar courses/seminars for senior military leaders, civil servants, govt scholars, grass root leaders and members?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Mr Tan dont you find the survey a little bit bizarre.
    So many missing countries not involved.
    Btw, India support also high.

    And where’s New zealand ? Finland ? How about N korea ( maybe 99.9% ? ) ? And Singapore ( 61% ? )?

    One possibility is CCP change a lot of histories in their textbook.

    Two, HK dont support CCP openly see what happen. So openly who dare to say dont support. Chinese are good at faking.

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  • Dirty Sinkies:

    Total umbrage at this survey! It says only 18% of Sinkies are hygienic, informationally. HOW DARE YOU!

    In comparison, Indonesians are double the hygiene level of Sinkies.

    Sheep. Sheep. Just swallow all propaganda.

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  • Media Control:

    It seems to me that degree to which the people trust the government is to degree the government is successful in controlling the media. North Korea will probably have a higher degree of people trusting the government.

    In China, it’s illegal for ordinary citizen to use VPN is step outside the “Great Internet Fire Wall”. Social media in China have strict self-censorship, so the people could only see what the party want the people to see. Many of these propaganda instigate hatred to other countries and patriotism towards the party (and country).

    It’s sad that many Singaporeans are also subjected to such brain-washing from the CCP. I am afraid that the “13579 Plan” of the CCP may just come true for Singapore.

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  • oxygen:

    @ TKL

    YOU PROUDLY TOUTED THE VIRTUES of responsible postings in social media.

    https://www.tremeritus.net/2021/07/10/responsible-postings-in-social-media-platforms/

    oxygen: SINCE WHEN IS EDELMEN RESEARCH is Harvard University or speaks for Harvard University?

    Another fairytale in TRE

    Is this article write-up on people of China making love to Chinese Communist Party a good example of “responsible postings in social media platforms?

    Or is it Mau Ku Lau Su (in English translation it is all the cats assembles and cry inconsolably seeing a rat dies)?

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  • It isn't trustworthy.....:

    A sample size of 33,000 survey respondents (as stated in diagram above) to estimate the thoughts and feelings of 1.4 billion people in Communist China – where the public media is extremely”unfree”!?

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  • BK:

    Xi Jinping calls for more ‘loveable’ image for China in bid to make friends.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57327177.amp

    As they say, with friends liked TKL, who needs enemies. Him and the chauvinists trolls are the greatest Public Relations debacle for anyone they are rabid fans of.

    Yes. There is a publication from Havard Gazette that in fact shows a higher % (2016)of approval towards Beijing than 82%. Kishore mahbubani cites this study repeatedly.

    And while TKL cited Harvard report, his link has nothing to do with the study. His comments showed he never even read it. And he practically fake his whole article on that premise.

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/

    “Compared to the relatively high satisfaction rates with Beijing, respondents held considerably less favorable views toward local government. At the township level, the lowest level of government surveyed, only 11.3 percent of respondents reported that they were “very satisfied.”

    Again, the U.S. reveals quite a different story. “American trust surveys over time show a clear distinction between low levels of trust towards the federal government, but a strong belief and faith in the power of local government — at the most local level, those positions may be filled by part-time volunteers who are a part of your everyday life,” said Cunningham. This dichotomy is highlighted by a 2017 Gallup poll, where 70 percent of U.S. respondents had a “great” or “fair” amount of trust in local government.”

    The nuances in the report need to be understood.

    And as a Singaporean, the political and strategic interests between us and China diverge.

    https://www.straitstimes.com/forum/forum-chinas-aggressive-diplomacy-does-not-benefit-anybody

    But this TKL shows himself to be ridiculous.

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  • @M I K E:

    BK: And while TKL cited Harvard report, his link has nothing to do with the study. His comments showed he never even read it. And he practically fake his whole article on that premise.

    You hate TKL or hate China? Probably both?

    Contrary to what you claim, TKL’s link is the source of his data. His mistake is to label it Harvard U instead of the actual org.

    Ridiculous to claim that he fake the entire article. It will be difficult to prove that he fake anything.

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  • @M I K E:

    Why so bias?
    Die die have to say bad things about China?

    The surveys aren’t even comparable. One is about American’s trust and confidence is local gov. (https://news.gallup.com/poll/5392/trust-government.aspx). The other is about overall satisfaction with gov (township and up). (https://ash.harvard.edu/files/ash/files/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf)

    Is “trust and confidence” the same as “overall satisfaction”? Of course not!

    Another clear bias nonsense is that 11.3% and 70%. One is only the top rating, or the other combined top and second rating. Pure cheating!

    Ok, ok, the cheatings were done by that western report you cited. You simply regurgitated them.

    BK:

    https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/

    “Compared to the relatively high satisfaction rates with Beijing, respondents held considerably less favorable views toward local government. At the township level, the lowest level of government surveyed, only 11.3 percent of respondents reported that they were “very satisfied.”

    Again, the U.S. reveals quite a different story. “American trust surveys over time show a clear distinction between low levels of trust towards the federal government, but a strong belief and faith in the power of local government — at the most local level, those positions may be filled by part-time volunteers who are a part of your everyday life,” said Cunningham. This dichotomy is highlighted by a 2017 Gallup poll, where 70 percent of U.S. respondents had a “great” or “fair” amount of trust in local government.”

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    You pet puppy of TKL or CCP?
    If TKL made mistakes, why don’t you give him a call and ask him to correct it?

    Want to prove that puppy does eat shxt?

    @M I K E: You hate TKL or hate China? Probably both?

    Contrary to what you claim, TKL’s link is the source of his data. His mistake is to label it Harvard U instead of the actual org.

    Ridiculous to claim that he fake the entire article. It will be difficult to prove that he fake anything.

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  • BK:

    @M I K E: You hate TKL or hate China? Probably both?

    Contrary to what you claim, TKL’s link is the source of his data. His mistake is to label it Harvard U instead of the actual org.

    Ridiculous to claim that he fake the entire article. It will be difficult to prove that he fake anything.

    Lol. U read East and u say West. Repeated two times?

    1.TKL: I read a report from a survey conducted by Harvard University that China has the highest score on the question of trust in government. 82% of the respondents, who are the ordinary people of China, trusted their government, which is run by the CCP…

    further down…

    2. TKL: As the survey was carried out by a reputable American university, I believe that respondents were not voting out of fear.

    The point is not something as silly as “hate”, the point is veracity. Of course u wont understand that (:. .

    Quote: Another clear bias nonsense is that 11.3% and 70%. One is only the top rating, or the other combined top and second rating. Pure cheating!

    And. A few points of irony.

    1. Since u believe TKL, then according to him, since it is from Harvard it must be true!!

    2. The comparison by Harvard is over two reports, read them. But I remember, u too liked TKL never read links u post (:

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  • @M I K E:

    Glad you admit that you swallow everything that Harvard prints. You even agree with the cheating.

    BK: 2. The comparison by Harvard is over two reports, read them. But I remember, u too liked TKL never read links u post (:

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  • @ TKL:

    Yes, well said TKL.

    Even Chen Long Jackie Chan praise CCP the china gov.
    He wants to join as party member.

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  • oxygen:

    @ M I K E:

    YOU ARE ON FAKE MISCHIEF again.

    @M I K E: Ridiculous to claim that he fake the entire article. It will be difficult to prove that he fake anything.

    I found myself, sometimes, disagreeing with @ BK on economic subject/issues BUT @BK GOT CLASS, not given to dancing fiction and hallucination of wild thoughts.

    HE EARNED RESPECT LONG AGO – that stays – even if forward he disagree with my economic thought even more stridently than past.

    @TKL post here is ridiculous of source credibility – he claimed Harvard University research and advance his thesis on that fake news on Harvard University’s known PUBLIC ASSESSED STANDING AND CREDENTIALS.

    That IS WRONG, (hypocritical of sly mischief too??) AND UNACCEPTABLE when he (and he only alone in TRE) earnestly pleaded this

    Responsible postings in social media platforms

    https://www.tremeritus.net/2021/07/10/responsible-postings-in-social-media-platforms/

    YOUR WANT TO COMPLICIT THIS FAKE NEWS AND MISINFORMATION as opposed by @BK and myself?

    You in favor of @TKL’s apparent windy happy contradictions?

    SHAME AND SELF-DENIGRADING.

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  • oxygen:

    @ M I K E:

    I AM STILL PATIENTLY waiting for the most learned (in matters of finance and corporate law subject) @TKL’s reply to my posting/comment at

    oxygen:
    July 11, 2021 at 10:51 am

    https://www.tremeritus.net/2021/07/10/responsible-postings-in-social-media-platforms/

    HE HAS TILL THE MOMENT OF THIS WRITING SILENT on the issues I have raised.

    I do earnestly keen to learn his elevated expertise displayed in that Hong Lim Park presentation on U-tube, that got me all befuddled and eagerly keen to learn more via conversation exchange, shared with all other readers here like yourself, through this TRE platform.

    My past work career experience dealt with directors, investigative accountants, auditors, fund manager, corporate lawyers/advisers, geologists etc etc and nothing comes close to the presentations of @TKL presentation on matter of Hyflux happening as known publicly then.

    I am and never was a shareholder of Hyflux, but still keen to learn from @TKL’s outstanding expertise on U-tube display.

    Or perhaps you, @ M I K E can add some flavor to that too and start the ball rolling in a TRE thread of corporate law disclosure standards?

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  • oxygen:

    WANT TO LEARN FUNDAMENTALS of market research, go and buy and read this book -entitled

    Marketing research: Fundamentals and dynamics Hardcover –

    3 used hardcover copy available on line at US$5.67

    https://www.amazon.com/Marketing-research-Fundamentals-Gerald-Zaltman/dp/003003566X

    WRITTEN BY GERALD ZALTMAN AND PHILIP BURGER

    I read this book decades ago in Sydney library.

    Gerald Zaltman, of course, was HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL professor in marketing research.

    So let nobody in the world of dignified learning anyhow quote Harvard University’s PUBLICLY ASSESSED STATURE of proud achievements to advance any dubious political leanings or agenda.

    The Chinese wisdom saying would call this disgraceful behavior as – jia lern jia the pi ku chor meant cher – in English translation, it is cutting up someone’s butthole to balance up pimples on your face

    SHAME AND EMBARRASSING WHEN GOT CAUGHT of such devious behavior.

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  • BK:

    @M I K E:
    Glad you admit that you swallow everything that Harvard prints. You even agree with the cheating.

    Sotong. Did u read the report? Of course not, it actually supports the Epicurean justification of modern China.

    Lol…what a turd.

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  • BK:

    BK: Sotong. Did u read the report? Of course not, it actually supports the Epicurean justification of modern China.

    Lol…what a turd.

    Seriously sotong, u understand stuff by bits and pieces? Are u liked disadvantaged? If so please inform, thanks.

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  • @M I K E:

    Everyone to his own taste.

    If TKL wanted to fake HU, he would not have put up the link that leads elsewhere. It is so easy to see that this is not from HU. I would just put that to faulty memory.

    BR claims that the entire post is fake. This is undeniably ridiculous. The data report comes from the link provided by TKL.

    While BR does have some good comments in general, when it comes to China, he seems to be a different person. He faked lots of data.

    oxygen: I found myself, sometimes, disagreeing with @ BK on economic subject/issues BUT @BK GOT CLASS, not given to dancing fiction and hallucination of wild thoughts.

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  • mike:

    It’s a great news to know Jackie Chan want to join CCP as member!
    Quick hand quick leg get him in!
    Jackie Chan got a nickname called : the brand killer

    I try not to laugh, people are looking at me thought i seow… :DDD

    @ TKL:
    Yes, well said TKL.

    Even Chen Long Jackie Chan praise CCP the china gov.
    He wants to join as party member.

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c Of Commie Covid Party

    Faulty memory? :DDD
    Just like yourself? Was it selective reported memories?
    If it is not, then it could be a much serious disorder, both TKL and yourself could be having Confabulation… if not… then a member in a Cult of Personality?

    @M I K E:
    If TKL wanted to fake HU, he would not have put up the link that leads elsewhere. It is so easy to see that this is not from HU. I would just put that to faulty memory.

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  • oxygen:

    @ M I K E

    Further to my aforementioned post at 12.39 pm, mate, I am curious to ask of your illumination to this opening thoughts

    @M I K E: Everyone to his own taste.

    I supposed if you intended that cover to justify/amplify your further thoughts that follows (and I have partially explained above why I disagree) you wouldn’t come back with this HYPOTHETICAL beautiful rejoinder as opening ambit

    M I K E:All excrement of lies smells the same of fragrance and offence/welcome

    What I found difficult of comprehension is this self-evident illogic of yours.

    @M I K E: I would just put that to faulty memory.

    Mr. TKL is definitely an outstanding scholar achiever, his head is sitting on his shoulder, not yours or mine, how DO YOU KNOW WHAT WAS IN HIS MIND AT RELEVANT MOMENT when he wrote of Harvard University?

    The simple answer is YOU DON’T KNOW (and neither to me) so how are you going to convince me, @ BK or any TRE readers of his alleged “faulty memory”.

    IT MUST BE YOUR OWN PURE SPECULATIVE CONJECTURE, right, @ M I K E??

    My own thoughts – and U and anyone can disagree strongly – is that the OVERALL CONCLUSION ADVANCE in this article writing is doubtful of valid conclusion. In the first place, Prof. G. Zaltman would ask this – who did Eldermen research asked in China of that survey? what sample size, what random science in sample targeting, what rejection rate etc etc?

    But in this article write up, I noted @ TKL mentioned

    TKL:I read a report from a survey conducted by Harvard University….

    and paragraph

    TKL:As the survey was carried out by a reputable American university, I believe that respondents were not voting out of fear

    he no longer spoke of Harvard University, but a reputable American university.

    He read a Harvard University research, did the linking and then asserted a reputable university – presumably his derived conclusion can be relied of his interpretation and conclusion.

    It is a puzzle at moment of linking, HARVARD UNIVERSITY is not remotely linked to his publishing here or a “reputable American university”. Why hasn’t he mentioned instead in late Stanford or Wharton or Chicago university?

    Only he knows how and why he mis-stepped even after HE FERVENTLY preaching for responsible posting in the social media.

    HAS HE FALLEN ON HIS OWN SWORD OF ELEVATED WISDOM?

    Allow him to explain here,thanks.

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  • oxygen:

    @ M I K E

    I did a background fact check on Elderman Research provided in @TKL supplied weblink and I FOUND THAT THIS PRIVATE COMMERCIAL MARKET RESEARCH/CONSULTANCY business do not appear to have a link with ANY university – in US or anywhere else.

    I believe @ TKL may be aware that universities in US and many countries around the world are funded out of tax-payers funds and donations – THEY DO NOT ENGAGED IN COMMERCIALLY-BASED MARKET RESEARCH either in support of or contradicting their teaching efforts in any field of endeavour.

    SO HOW DID HARVARD UNIVERSITY – or for that matter any other “reputable American (or Timbuctoo) university” – came to mention in his article writing here is another ENIGMA to me just like his Hong Lim Park presentation on Hyflux happening.

    Perhaps, you could strongly encourage him to share for our learning experience.

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  • @M I K E:

    You got the main point. Only he knows why the mis-step. Some think he intentionally faked it to increase trust in the writing. Some think it was an honest memory fault, because it is so easy to tell any faking from his provided link.

    But to extend the fake accusation to the entire post – that is ridiculous.

    oxygen: Only he knows how and why he mis-stepped even after HE FERVENTLY preaching for responsible posting in the social media.

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  • Confucius says:

    “The more man meditates upon good thoughts, the better will be his world and the world at large… The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man understands what will sell.”

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  • BK:

    @M I K E:
    You got the main point. Only he knows why the mis-step. Some think he intentionally faked it to increase trust in the writing. Some think it was an honest memory fault, because it is so easy to tell any faking from his provided link.

    But to extend the fake accusation to the entire post – that is ridiculous.

    Tsk tsk…come on be honest (:

    Can a faulty memory exhibit itself two times (as evidence above)? Unless u are accusing TKL of onset of dementia…

    Out of the initial readers, how many read the link? In fact most accepted TKL’s assertions at face value. If not for the fact I have read the Harvard report, I may not even bother. Of course u have ppl liked @Oxygen that are detailed.

    If your axiom is faulty , can any statements that followed be true? If it is not true, then is it false? Does false has the moral equivalence of fake?

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c Of Commie Covid Party

    You just want to win or humble enuff to win some isn’t it? :DDD

    Like Oxygen said, some folks don’t even click the source links right under their nose like urselves and took (swallowed) things on surface value.

    Enough of TKL memory fault, its time to visit doctors.

    @M I K E:
    You got the main point. Only he knows why the mis-step. Some think he intentionally faked it to increase trust in the writing. Some think it was an honest memory fault, because it is so easy to tell any faking from his provided link.

    But to extend the fake accusation to the entire post – that is ridiculous.

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  • @M I K E:

    @BK, don’t try to divert attention.
    You accuse him of faking his whole article. The only fault you can find is Harvard U.

    Ridiculous lah. You and TKL are similar. Simply swallow and cite lousy surveys and reports to justify your own bias.

    BK: And he practically fake his whole article on that premise.

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  • oxygen:

    @ M I K E

    MATE, DESPITE DIVERGENT OF THOUGHTS you shared here, I am truly flummoxed by the apparent penguin dancing of yours around the abysmal edge of what I call “lies” here (but please feel free to rebut).

    @M I K E: You got the main point. Only he knows why the mis-step. Some think he intentionally faked it to increase trust in the writing. Some think it was an honest memory fault, because it is so easy to tell any faking from his provided link.

    But to extend the fake accusation to the entire post – that is ridiculous.

    Your argument above (not you as a person rebutted here) is analogous to a leopard climbing different trees (impossible to explain windy happy contradictions in this article read) nearby whilst hiding the carcass of your prey on just one pivot (memory fault attribution).

    In fairness to you and most learned scholarly (he identified to Harvard University/a reputable university) @ TKL, I CANNOT HELP IT BUT POINT OUT TO YOUR FLAWED ARGUMENT of memory fault (his brain is on his shoulder, not you or mine, how do you know and convince me of your speculative conjecture of this presumed “fact” proposed by you???).

    I remind again [email protected]’s article cannot explain this enigma for three simple OBVIOUS REASONS AND EVIDENCES.

    His article was quite

    - SPECIFIC (reference to Eldeman research, and no other)

    - SUBSTANTIVE (qouting the particular findings/numbers in that Eldeman research in support of his own now shattered (of trust confidence) conclusion

    - EXHAUSTIVE (repeated reference to a non-existent Harvard University, then stepped away from that to a “reputable university” unidentified but strenuously claims credibility) His article makes no claims to any other university which Elderman research make no such claims of association with Harvard, any reputable university or indeed any university at all.

    @ M I K E. in any courtroom hearing on evidential testimony, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CONVINCE A NEUTRAL JUDGE when your “evidence” presented (faulty memory claim) FALL APART ON SPECIFIC, SUBSTANTIVE AND EXHAUSTIVE grounds?

    I told you before, your thesis falls apart right from the beginning of this thread.

    My opening ambit to you reads

    oxygen: YOU ARE ON FAKE MISCHIEF again.

    Now do you agree?

    You do a lot better to invite the most learned scholarly @TKL to explain this enigma of my total bewilderment, thanks!

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  • @M I K E:

    mike: Enough of TKL memory fault, its time to visit doctors.

    Good for you. That’s what commentators have been advising you to do. Remember to take medicine. Take care of your health.

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  • BK:

    @M I K E:
    @BK, don’t try to divert attention.
    You accuse him of faking his whole article. The only fault you can find is Harvard U.

    Ridiculous lah. You and TKL are similar. Simply swallow and cite lousy surveys and reports to justify your own bias.

    Lol. Now u turn against TKL liao. Abandon him? Good first step (:

    BK: And while TKL cited Harvard report, his link has nothing to do with the study. His comments showed he never even read it. And he practically fake his whole article on that premise.

    U understand the word premise?

    Premise: a previous statement or proposition from which another is inferred or follows as a conclusion.
    “if the premise is true, then the conclusion must be true”

    I changed norhing. Your discernment is just as faulty as TKL “memory” or perhaps dishonesty?

    U really sotong la. Lol.

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  • @M I K E:

    BK: Premise: a previous statement or proposition from which another is inferred or follows as a conclusion.
    “if the premise is true, then the conclusion must be true”

    Your premise and your conclusions are unrelated. Yeah, the sun rises from the east, and therefore BK has lost his ways. lol.

    If you want to argue further, you have to lay out clearly the premises and conclusions. A misattribution does not invalidate the whole article.

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  • Shenkoji Buchikonya:

    This one even more prodigious. Recent World Values Survey (2017-2020), 94.6% of Chinese expressed confidence in their government and 86.5% in their Civil Services. TKL will be eating his heart out. lol

    https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSDocumentationWV7.jsp

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  • BK:

    @M I K E: Your premise and your conclusions are unrelated. Yeah, the sun rises from the east, and therefore BK has lost his ways. lol.

    If you want to argue further, you have to lay out clearly the premises and conclusions. A misattribution does not invalidate the whole article.

    Lol.Sotong u get more muddled by the hour.

    U remember what the contention is? Is TKL first principle related to his statements. In fact it is not as u confessed. Your excuse, is that u has a faulty memory. Best case scenario, TKL is senile or dishonest, perhaps both.

    Now, u not only agree with me, u accused TKL of being shallow and cite lousy articles. Irony is, the Harvard report defends China with more integrity than u ever can. U make snide remarks out of total ignorance.

    Feeling cornered, u practically tarred and feathered TKL by your dishonest discourse.

    To repeat: As they say, with friends liked TKL, who needs enemies. Him and the chauvinists trolls are the greatest Public Relations debacle for anyone they are rabid fans of.

    Now that in your desperation u discredit TKL, it wont be long before u do the same to China. China should disown u publicly (:

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  • oxygen:

    @ Shenkoji Buchikonya:

    IRONICALLY, IF THEY DID an “approval” score rating on North Korea’s Kim Jong Un or his sister, the score comes back MUST BE the unsurpassed 100%.

    LOL.

    Shenkoji Buchikonya: This one even more prodigious. Recent World Values Survey (2017-2020), 94.6% of Chinese expressed confidence in their government and 86.5% in their Civil Services. TKL will be eating his heart out. lol

    https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSDocumentationWV7.jsp

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c Of Commie Covid Party

    Aiyo… you kept repeating that…

    The whole article is a piece of crap using it to further CCP’s agenda in a distasteful way.

    Just my questions alone, already invalidated TKL’s pro CCP agenda

    Why the survey don’t have SG and North Korea?
    :DDD cannot answer right?

    So funny one!

    @M I K E:

    A misattribution does not invalidate the whole article.

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  • @M I K E:

    Lazy guy screaming so loudly. Feed me. Why no abalone?
    The survey included SG. Open that link. Why you so lazy?
    Go. Eat that. Stop screaming. Don’t forget your medicine.

    mike:
    Dear @ 50c Of Commie Covid Party

    Aiyo… you kept repeating that…

    The whole article is a piece of crap using it to further CCP’s agenda in a distasteful way.

    Just my questions alone, already invalidated TKL’s pro CCP agenda

    Why the survey don’t have SG and North Korea?
    :DDD cannot answer right?

    So funny one!

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  • @M I K E:

    Back to your usual self. When cornered, throw smoke, throw insults and avoid the issue altogether.

    You want to talk premise and conclusion, list them clearly. Or else, throw more smoke.

    BK: Lol.Sotong u get more muddled by the hour.

    U remember what the contention is? Is TKL first principle related to his statements. In fact it is not as u confessed. Your excuse, is that u has a faulty memory. Best case scenario, TKL is senile or dishonest, perhaps both.

    Now, u not only agree with me, u accused TKL of being shallow and cite lousy articles. Irony is, the Harvard report defends China with more integrity than u ever can. U make snide remarks out of total ignorance.

    Feeling cornered, u practically tarred and feathered TKL by your dishonest discourse.

    To repeat: As they say, with friends liked TKL, who needs enemies. Him and the chauvinists trolls are the greatest Public Relations debacle for anyone they are rabid fans of.

    Now that in your desperation u discredit TKL, it wont be long before u do the same to China. China should disown u publicly (:

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  • Shenkoji Buchikonya:

    oxygen:
    @ Shenkoji Buchikonya:

    IRONICALLY, IF THEY DID an “approval” score rating on North Korea’s Kim Jong Un or his sister, the score comes back MUST BE the unsurpassed 100%.

    LOL.

    @ oxy

    Personally I do not bemoan the gap between the literary world and the numerical statistical world. And of course quantitative science is ‘narrated’; reports have scene-setting, plot, denouement, ending. They also make great serials for this ingenious author’s political proclivity.

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  • @M I K E:

    You made so many unrelated points in a single comment that it’s messy to reply all at once.

    You have been repeating the following point a few times. Go read that report more carefully. Someone stabs you for no reason, and you thank him for putting a bandage for you.

    Defend China? Integrity? You sure you can read English? If you want can defend your viewpoint, please cite from the report instead of throwing smoke.

    BK: Irony is, the Harvard report defends China with more integrity than u ever can.

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  • BK:

    @M I K E:
    You made so many unrelated points in a single comment that it’s messy to reply all at once.

    You have been repeating the following point a few times. Go read that report more carefully. Someone stabs you for no reason, and you thank him for putting a bandage for you.

    Defend China? Integrity? You sure you can read English? If you want can defend your viewpoint, please cite from the report instead of throwing smoke.

    Sotong, dont always elude responsibility. Whole time in TRE keep asking ppl to proof this or that, why dont u do it?

    Right, coz u dont read. Thats your problem .

    Example: if u feel the Harvard report is not as I said, comnent on it after u read, I will respond.

    I assume u went to school. If u cite a report, and the whole essay is supposedly a comment of that report, u giving it a pass? The statements following that cannot be true if your first principle is faulty, is fxxking elementary.

    But it shows your true nature when u throw TKL under the bus (:

    Tell me this not true: after being a defender of TKL, saying he is not fake but just senile, u then concluded he is; ”
    Simply swallow and cite lousy surveys and reports to justify your own bias.”

    Are u not saying he is fake? So, tell me, from the beginning till now, u are just agreeing with me. So who is confused?

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  • @M I K E:

    Waste of time arguing with you.
    Throw fake, throw smoke, throw insult. Totally without any substance.

    BK: Sotong, dont always elude responsibility. Whole time in TRE keep asking ppl to proof this or that, why dont u do it?

    Right, coz u dont read. Thats your problem .

    Example: if u feel the Harvard report is not as I said, comnent on it after u read, I will respond.

    I assume u went to school. If u cite a report, and the whole essay is supposedly a comment of that report, u giving it a pass? The statements following that cannot be true if your first principle is faulty, is fxxking elementary.

    But it shows your true nature when u throw TKL under the bus (:

    Tell me this not true: after being a defender of TKL, saying he is not fake but just senile, u then concluded he is; ”
    Simply swallow and cite lousy surveys and reports to justify your own bias.”

    Are u not saying he is fake? So, tell me, from the beginning till now, u are just agreeing with me. So who is confused?

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  • oxygen:

    BEST DEFENCE OF the article author’s fairytale publishing?

    He is tight-lipped silent after caught red-handed of fake Harvard University reference.

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  • Elite:

    TKL – CCP is great as you put it.
    Why recruit Singaporean to be their SPY in US.? How many have CCP recruited Singaporeans to be SPY for the CCP?
    Till today, CCP is quiet no response or denial. Must CCP goes to these extend to infiltrate to get information? As a Singaporean are you not embarrassed that the Singapore graduate are been single out as SPY for CCP?

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    Show us show us, where is the score for N-Korea and SG.

    Show us!

    @M I K E:
    Lazy guy screaming so loudly. Feed me. Why no abalone?
    The survey included SG. Open that link. Why you so lazy?
    Go. Eat that. Stop screaming. Don’t forget your medicine.

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  • mike:

    Dear @ 50c of Commie Covid Party

    Btw, besides all the pointing, you still don’t read.
    Read but memory fault.
    Memory fault but thought had read.

    I just want you to show me W.H.E.R.E are the N.K.O.R.E.A & SG figures. And i will tell you your F.u.c.k.i.n.g fakes, throw smoke, and throw insult with your own substance.

    Can? S.H.O.W me.

    ——

    Dear @ Healer,

    Please include my many shadows in your prayers too. ;))

    @M I K E:
    Waste of time arguing with you.
    Throw fake, throw smoke, throw insult. Totally without any substance.

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