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Open response to Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss’ call for national vaccination

I refer to Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss’ call for national vaccination [LINK].

Basically, what she is suggesting is that a national vaccination drive is the only way out of the current C19 pandemic which the island city is facing and she urges everyone to get vaccinated, and to sacrifice oneself if need be (SAE from the vaccine) for the better good of the society at large.

Helping others will always involve personal risks and detriments. But we need to unite our efforts to save our country, our economy, and our future from the destructive effects of the pandemic.

In the big picture, so long as the nation is insufficiently vaccinated, our borders will never be fully opened, our economy will be hampered, and people’s lives and livelihoods will remain in limbo.

And my question to her:

Is she saying “as a matter of fact” that once the whole island has been successfully vaccinated (regardless if it means some dying and some suffering serious injuries from SAE), the LEEders WILL:

Fully open the borders, our economy will NOT be hampered, and people’s lives and livelihoods will NOT remain in limbo.

Or is it just her myopic opinion and a figment of her imagination? I certainly did not read any LEEders making such promises.

What I do hear, however, are the MSM’ constant BS, parroting the same LEEders’ rhetoric that if you don’t get vaccinated, then you may suffer serious injuries if the C19 bites. Nothing if… then… after vaccination. Am I missing something here?

There have also been reports from credible sources that the mRNA vaccines (the kind used in Sinkieland) actually cause blood clog, may also cause female infertility and birth defects.

Examples (just to link a few):
https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/04/20/new-mrna-vaccine-could-cause-immune-cells-to-attack-placenta-cells-causing-female-infertility-miscarriage-or-birth-defects/

https://humansarefree.com/2020/12/breaking-ex-pfizer-chief-science-officer-covid-19-vaccine-can-make-females-infertile.html

Is Jeanette aware of this and is this (remote) risk something which she is encouraging EVERYONE to take for the “overall good” of the society?

Besides, there is no concrete evidence to support the claim that vaccination will prevent death or serious injuries, why even bother to take the vaccination, because the LEEders and that so-called expert in MTF said so?

Additionally, as of today, there are more than 3/4 of those contracting C19 from the KTV/Market clusters being fully vaccinated, what has Jeannette got to say to this?

There is a saying that goes “if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it”, especially when the fix is not full-proof and may even worsen the situation. As long as the C19 is on the island, vaccinated or not would not make a huge difference because the vaccine DOES NOT prevent infection or spread. The reason why China is now back to normal is that they managed to contain the C19 virus fully and then and only then start vaccinating the populace.

IMHO, if the LEEders in Sinkieland had, from the onset, used half the brains that the Chinese leaders have, and initiated a full and proper lockdown then mass test the populace, the island won’t be in the current mess. And now Jeannette wants the poor peasants to sacrifice their health and maybe even lives to clean up the mess that those who are paid millions created?

Since Jeannette used war as an example, the way I see it, the LEEders are currently akin to issuing bullet-proof vests to soldiers who are stuck in the middle of a war with bullets flying here and there. It will only help to a certain extent in preventing death and injuries, but it is not full-proof. The ultimate aim should be to achieve no deaths or injuries, not some deaths or injuries (even from SAE).

Take the war out of the equation and there will be no bullets flying here and there, thus no need for the bullet-proof vest.

Isn’t this more logical?

 

 

Andrew

* The author is the in-house tech for TR Emeritus, the opinion expressed are entirely his own.

 

 

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40 Responses to “Open response to Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss’ call for national vaccination”

  • oxygen:

    @ TRE Techie

    You are right, @JCA’s perspectives, not illegitimate, is lop-sided and myopic.

    We can’t be safe UNTIL THE REST OF THE WORLD is safe.

    In the lingo of decision-making arena, professor James D Thomson, calls this “pooled interdependence” – it requires the participation of the whole world WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT THE CASE AND IMPOSSIBLE OF ACHIEVEMENTS.

    Sgp can open its border (to where and with whom may I ask??) BUT WHAT GOOD IS THAT when the rest of the world is shut down mired by the pandemic and forced lockdowns?

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  • nfff:

    The spread is not caused by those not vaccinated, get it right.

    This woman luckily not MP, the spread is caused by laxed immigration who let in Indian Variants and social visit passes.

    She is running down the citizens instead of looking at the source. If these people are not let in, there will be no spread.

    The spread also has many who are vaccinated, so the theory of vACCination can prevent spread does not hold water.

    Where did she get her bar? She seems low in IQ<

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  • sincere:

    @oxygen

    Right,not a few have also said the same in previous forums.
    It is not just about highly vaccinated countries alone.
    It is making sure whole world gets truly immunised.
    The world’s biggest and richest nations forget this.

    So what if you open up your borders,YOUR SUPPLIERS ,the poorer less developed countries cannot fill your raw materials demand .

    There is SUPPLY ISSUES as the supier-countries do not get enough vaccines from the rich countries and so cannot fill orders?

    It is an inter-dependant world but the rich nations still think they are superior and can do without poor nations?

    Without getting supply-chains up,you cannot make your high tech products in Europe,in USA,can you?

    Dont be arrogant and selfish.
    Thats what COVUD is teaching humans.

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  • MarBowling:

    Really Pathetic. The Husband and Wifey Tag Team now even resort to asking Opposition joker JCA to kpkb on their behalf by CHIDING those still haven’t vaccinated yet! Even Chicken Tommy Koh also joined in the chorus by calling for punishment for those REFUSING to be vaccinated!

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  • Very Fearful AntiVaxxers:

    Why, so many very fearful antivaxxers at TRE?
    The big data is in.
    Until you are able to overcome your fear of vaccine, you will continue to feed from the cesspool of antivaxxer fake science.
    That will worsen your fear; a very vicious cycle.
    Doses given hitting 5 billions soon.
    Face your fear, stop reading nonsense and fake science on internet/whatsapp.
    You will do yourself and your family a big favour.
    The ENEMY is FEAR; your personal unfounded fear—overcome it like most of mankind.
    You will be very relieved when you do!
    Remember AntiVaxxer website exist to sell you vitamins and minerals; no real scientists there, though they may claim otherwise.

    Tech: I am not against getting vaccinated, per se. I just detest the bullshit the MSM is spewing to entice the dafts into getting vaccinated. Present the data as it is and let the people make an informed decision. There are clearly risks involved in getting vaccinated, at least the people know what they are getting themselves into instead of getting vaccinated out of some hyped-up fear or some can-see-cannot-touch BS of an offer of $200k for compensation (which no one would ever receive). Hope this clarifies.

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  • Billy ma:

    Look like the only way for the anti-vaccine people is to wait for them to be infected.
    And then maybe these same people can share their journey with everyone.

    I’m not wishing for anyone to get the virus, I’m saying there’s no word or anything to convince these anti-vaccine people otherwise.

    So stay healthy – with or without the vaccine.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Sincere

    YES, opening our doors (border) is useless when all the major economies like US, China, EU, Japan and Australia all shut their doors.

    Merely opening up air bubbles is just “tokenism” of impact – these benefits impact is limited two-ways of participating countries only of what Professor JD Thomson calls “reciprocal interdependence”

    For example, Sing-HK air bubbles might bring in/out air travel linking both. Likewise Sing-Australia air-bubble could, if implemented in Dec. this year bring two-way air travel between two nations. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN PRCs stuck Down Under can fly from Sydney to Singapore and connect air flight to HK and cross into China via the land border. Conversely, PRCs wanting to resume residence in Australia, can’t enter HK via land border (maybe closed) fly to Sgp from HK expecting smooth immigration entry back to Australia. Remember, even Ozzie citizen stuck around the world can’t return home now!!

    Re-opening border is a much more complex thing than @JCA could imagine. Most inhabitants will remain stuck in whatever place they live and work now with tightly restricted air-travel/quarantine measures strictly enforced and changes very suddenly.

    IN THE COVID PANDEMIC WORLD – GOT MONEY, TIME AND PLENTY OF CHEAP CLASSY HOTELS WITH BEGGING WELCOME – there is just not enough customers exert their presence around.

    One of the thing missing in the calculus of re-opening of economy is this KNOWN UNKNOWN of UNKNOWN UNKNOWN.

    What do I mean?

    It is a known unknown that there are asymptomatic cases floating around – they are infected cases BUT MOSTLY NO FATALITIES. That means the “walking infected’ is by far the majority and therefore have cultivated immunity (if not, they would die by now) This much we know but how many infected has cultivated immunity we/nobody knows (the unknown unknown).

    The unknown unknown proportion among the unvaccinated who have achieved natural immunity WITHOUT BEING DETECTED AND VACCINATED is another blank of blind sided.

    Some of the unvaccinated could have been infected many rounds already totally unknown to the host (or hostess) BUT HAS NO CONSEQUENCES.

    Why force the “healthy” maybe risk-free unvaccinated through the vaccine regime that may harm, or kill them in the process WHEN THE JURONG FISHING PORT/KTV CLUSTERS proved the DISPROPORTIONATE INEFFECTIVE OF EVEN FULL VACCINATION REGIME?

    Enough madness of politics override common sense and science in this pandemic theatrical showbiz?

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  • very cheeky "Vaxxer":

    I like how you label people as “anti-vaxxer”, allowing its consequent negative connotations to just flow in easily. The more accurate specific phrase should be “anti current COVID vaccines and business/political climate”. It is ironic how you talk about fear when you are using the fear of being part of the “outcasts” to get people to vaccinate themselves.

    Promote vaccination also must tell people of the less pretty facts you know, don’t just ask people jab.

    The short takeaway to the points below: Know why u wanna jab, bear the risk/reward of your decision for the rest of your life. Don’t jab just cause someone says so, be more skeptical (not dismissive) and take ownership. As TRE readers know, in Singapore, “you die your business”.

    1. All Covid vaccines are currently experimental and not of the results of the gold standard clinical trials (FDA did not approve it formally as a standard item, but just for “emergency use”). The whole world are Guinea pigs (the vaccine takers as the tested group, and the control group aka non-vaccine takers) by default, so gotta pick a side.

    2. Current vaccination is not immunity against COVID virus (the vaccinated are still getting covid, this is the indisputable).

    3. Current vaccination only deal with current batch of viruses, with efficacy rates that are not consistent across the world. More importantly, the efficacy rates are often proclaimed and tested by the very same vaccine makers.

    4. Current vaccination is a single/multiple jab(s) process of likely increasing frequency (currently at 1 or 2, maybe 3 , possibly more). As it stands, there are two reasons I know of. One is that a complete course can requires multiple jabs. Two is that the virus mutates, rendering the current jabs ineffective to its strain, and bringing about the question of natural immunity and good lifestyle choices (prevention) vs jabbing oneself like mice in a lab continuously (cure) vs something else we cant think of right now.

    5. Each vaccine jab, and its successive jabs, are both a source of risk. Risk of side effects is recorded to be miniscule (per the little we know). Know side effects (still incomplete and being logged regularly) are only for the instant or short-term. Medium to long term effects are unknown.

    6. There are political influences towards the vaccines itself, both for and against (all news have a purpose, go figure).

    7. There is also a huge profit opportunity (and consequently, incentive to win) to vaccines and its affiliated products, both for the current climate of being the “better and/or safer option” to the future scenario of being “THE VACCINE”.

    If there are more facts to know, do share.

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  • Massive Total Failure:

    https://news.wttw.com/2021/07/02/covid-19-long-haulers-turning-ivermectin-relief-questions-over-drugs-effectiveness

    “Ivermectin is one of the safest drugs known in history,” said Dr. Pierre Kory, a pulmonary and critical care specialist based in Wisconsin, who notes that the scientists who discovered the compound that led to the drug’s development received the Nobel Prize.

    Testifying before the U.S. Senate in December, Kory advocated for the use of ivermectin for COVID-19 on behalf of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, an international group of physicians and scientists that believes ivermectin is a “miracle drug” for COVID-19 and should be used immediately.

    “(Ivermectin) is complementary to and a safety net for vaccines. It shouldn’t be viewed as a competitor,” he said. “I know many people will not get a vaccine for months or years. Some people can’t get a vaccine for certain reasons.”

    HOPE THE MTF CAN CONSIDER IVERMECTIN TO BE INCLUDED IN THE DRUG ARMAMENTARIUM VS COVID DELTA VARIANT WHICH IS HIGHLY TRANSMISSIBLE!

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  • liew mun leong must be jailed:

    getting vaccinated is the right thing to do.

    whether against pap or hoping all pap Ljs rot and all pap Cbs smell, wishing pap to go away is not the same thing as NOT getting vaccinated.

    we remind each other. if we are already vaccinated, we must not tell others not to vaccinate. it is not a very good thing to do.

    on the other hand, if we are not vaccinated, we can say we are not vaccinated but we must not stop others from getting the vaccination.

    after all, everyone, born in small island since independence, or even before independence, have been vaccinated one way or other since birth.

    getting vaccinated is the right thing to do.

    fighting pap must go on. but not getting vaccinated is not fighting pap. it is just foolishness playing the chord.

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  • opposition dude:

    The problem now is PAP’s announcement of declaring this endemic when 80% or so of the population has been vaccinated. This means that the 20% will basically be on a hope and prayer that they don’t get infected once borders are reopened.

    Because a certain South Asian country will definitely use this to make sure their people are let in to look for jobs and you know that PAP will happily oblige. I can’t speak for popular holiday destinations like the US, Europe, Korea and Japan but I do hope the authorities in those countries exercise some common sense.

    Because PAP are the type who never learn their lessons, once again they will assume that just because our borders are open to all then the other countries should follow suit too. And when the number of cases start going up once again PAP will blame the unvaccinated ones as usual.

    Just wait for it, I won’t be surprised if they declare it endemic end of September and announce the country is open to all in mid October.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ liew mun leong must be jailed:

    Nicely put.

    39% muz stay alive and well to carry on your fight.

    Imagine 39% not vaccinated, kena c19, …..病…..死…, next GE opposition camp will be wipe out.

    So do it else game over.

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  • I bet u bet:

    Everyone like expert.
    All talk cock.
    Vaccine or no vaccine.
    Only time will tell.
    Don’t vaccinate,can be exposed.
    Vaccinate,side effects and still exposed.

    Kepala pusing.

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  • Artificial cell Mutation?:

    The fact that mRNA induces cells to grow spike proteins, is this an UNNATURAL Mutation of the cell?

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  • vacinated can be carriers too!:

    From all the arguments , one basic scientific seems to be forgotten ie it has been assumed that the unvacinated who have attained natural immunity will become silent carriers and are blamed as a source of infection .

    What makes more scientific sense are the unvacinated with natural immunity are covid virgins AND it is the vacinated who have been tainted with mrna chemicals and weakened ,dead viruses may be the real danger to infect others .

    Most seem to have forgotten all vaccines are all experimental and no one knows the full effectiveness and efficacy , as well as side effects of these vaccines.

    It is real dumb to sing the pap tune from the lights of Tommy Koh and this Jeantte woman who have not even the faintest idea but chose the pap way of forcing unvacinated to be punished , tarnished as the sinners when we have all witnessed th countless lapse of judgement , half baked measures and banns so ridiculous imposed. what is for sure are -

    1 no vaccine can stop the delta , d + strains ; it is likely we have passed the original covid virus stage already after one year .

    2 there are side effects harmful to the public and victims have died when vacinated , again no one know who has the thin skull here .

    3 real statistics have been not been forthcoming but massaged now murking and declaring that the vacinated wont suffer severe illness, who can prove this !

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  • Altraman:

    Heating up melting ice will bring back to live better equip “brothers” of SAR cov 2 mutant.by rain.i think.End of dreamers.

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  • Andrew:

    If you are not happy with what the government is doing, VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITION IN THE NEXT ELECTION.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Very simple deh… to debunk her (Jeannette’s) whole argument on vaccination. Her reasoning falls apart once you know that those (mRNA) vaccines does NOT prevent infections especially from the new variants.

    Israel is among those countries with high vaccination rates. UK has even higher vaccination rates than Sinkieland and yet they are experiencing spike in cases of the COVID delta variant.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/25/uk-closely-watched-with-its-vaccine-program-and-surge-in-cases.html

    https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-seeing-new-covid-19-outbreak-despite-vaccine-success-2021-6?op=1

    Viruses reproduce the next generation within MINUTES, and given the HUGE genetic base that the virus now has, its natural rate of mutations will always enable it to be one step ahead of medical researchers.

    Tomorrow, if another new X/Y/Z variant spreads widely, Pharma companies will have to come up with another (mRNA) vaccine that matches the spike protein of the new variant(s), and the cycle never ends due to viral escape.

    Its like the overuse of anti-biotics in a population, which leads eventually to “training” and the evolutionary selection of bacteria that becomes IMMUNE to those anti-biotics.

    Then, going forwards is Jeannette herself going to regularly take new mRNA jabs into her body every other month, just like your mobile phone apps constantly requiring software “updates”? LOL.

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  • @Spineless Sinkie Syndrome

    This is exactly my point. What we are seeing currently are people of the world being hoodwinked by pharma companies to be lab rats while the bosses of these companies are laughing all the way to the banks and in their sleep.

    It has been proven millions of times that the mRNA vaccines DO NOT prevent infection and the claims of less injuries may be true, but it is too early to tell.

    So it can be said that when someone is drowning, one would grab hold of a straw hoping that it would help. What the LEEders are doing is actually giving the dafts a false sense of security (because they are clueless what else to do) and hoping that dafts like Jeannette falls for their wayang kulit.

    Truth be told, with reference to the inactivated vaccines, I am tempted to believe that it does offer some sense of protection because it is a tested technology that builds a body’s immune system, like the shots we took for measles and polio when young. Have you heard of anyone dying from a measle and polio vaccination? Neither have I. So I am not entirely against vaccination, per se.

    Those mRNA vaccines are different gameplay altogether because it is untested and has deadly side effects.

    On a related note, I fail to understand why instead of all these wayang kulit and BS, why don’t the LEEders just learn from the Chinese and impose a complete lockdown and mass test the population once and for all?

    Look at China now and then back at Sinkieland, the difference is glaring. Life is back to normal in almost all of the cities (except 2) while Sinkies are still ‘suffering’ from the BS of a Circuit breaker.

    The LEEders should be very careful with their current game play because it is human nature to ‘kee xiao’ when locked up for too long with pent up emotions.

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  • Udangharimau:

    When radio transmission was first made possible, people overwhelmingly believed that the radio waves would damage people health so bad that people would eventually die from the damage!

    When the first astronomer declared that planet earth is round, he had to go into hiding as authorities wanted him dead as this was beyond comprehension.

    Now, the mRNA vaccine, same same again as if homo sapient is as knowledgeable as they were many centuries ago!

    Tech: Err… do radio transmission and the earth being round kills? Well, the mRNA vaccine do kill, so wrong comparison.

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  • MarBowling:

    TRE Techie:
    July 27, 2021 at 11:03 am (Quote)
    @Spineless Sinkie Syndrome

    This is exactly my point. What we are seeing currently are people of the world being hoodwinked by pharma companies to be lab rats while the bosses of these companies are laughing all the way to the banks and in their sleep.

    Response: well said. Looks like the Husband and Wifey Tag Team who are ACTUALLY THE HANDS THAT COVER THE WHOLE SKY OF SINKAPORE(our World Class Ministerial Trash Force is ONLY THE MOUTHPIECE)has PAINTED THEMSELVES INTO A VERY TINY AND TIGHT CORNER with NO ROOM for LEFT/RIGHT TURN OR U-TURN, AS THEY AND THE 2 SWFs(Tombmasek Holdings and GIC under their armpit)are HEAVILY INVOLVED AND HAVE INVESTED HUNDREDS OF $MILLIONS OF OUR TAXPAYERS HARD EARNED MONEY IN THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY PFIZER. Their Holee INVOLVEMENT and ACTION may have INFLUENCED THEIR DECISION TO URGE and PUSH for 100% SHEEP HERD IMMUNITY so that they can order THE OPENING UP OF COUNTRY AND ECONOMY FOR INVESTORS AND VISITORS AND BY EXTENSION THE RESUMPTION OF THEIR OPEN-LEG POLICY FOR FTs!

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    To TRE Techie (Andrew?), yes I agree with your points on these new (mRNA) vaccines. There are already some well-known medical researchers who have called out the risks (to individuals due to blood clots as well as collectively due to viral escape) of these mRNA vaccines.

    I’m also not against vaccines per se, but they MUST go through proper clinical trials and also have sustainable long-term efficacy (e.g. polio vaccines which effectively wiped out this terrible disease in children worldwide).

    Incidentally, these “old” technology vaccines are based on using “attenuated viruses” (i.e. weakened or inactivated viruses) which then “trains” your own body’s T-cells to fight off the infection and B-cells to “remember” the general type of these viruses. Hence, your natural immune response will mount a broad generic defense system that targets ALL variants of this virus – unlike the mRNA “training” which only targets 1 specific type of spike protein and in the end, the variants will escape and easily bypass.

    That is why everyone saw the apparent initial “success” rate of what? 90%+? of mRNA vaccines versus the “old” technology (e.g. Sinovac) and all the unthinking Sinkies RUSH to get mRNA jabs. However, now you see these mRNA are USELESS against new variants. The data is not fully out yet, but I suspect that is why China is beating everyone else because they are using the tried & tested “old” technology of vaccines – which allows “natural immunity” to develop.

    On your point regarding “harsh lockdowns” – personally, I don’t think it will work or is worth the (socio-economic/psychological) cost in the long-run.
    Even China with their initial harsh lockdowns also FAILED to keep COVID from spreading to the rest of the world.
    Firstly, humans are difficult to control completely. All you need is 1 “super-spreader” who refuses to wear mask and runs around and all your lockdowns will be negated. We now have BILLIONS running around the world.

    Furthermore, as new variants comes up and causes spikes in infections, we also cannot keep closing the economy every now and then. Many SMEs, airlines, hotels, service industries etc. have collapsed or are living on debt (and borrowed time).

    We have to live with this COVID by allowing “natural immunity” to form (possibly with the help of “attenuated viruses”), both individually as well as with so-called “herd immunity”.

    Fortunately or unfortunately, this is how natural ecosystems work. Viruses have been around far longer than humans have been on this planet. Genetic scientists says we have been constantly exchanging genetic material with viruses for God-knows how long – some even postulated that viruses may have given humans genetic improvements.
    We humans tend to think viruses are all “Bad”, but what will Mother Nature think of humans desecrating this planet? We could also be the “virus” that she is trying to thin down.

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  • @Spineless Sinkie Syndrome

    China did not managed to keep the virus from he rest of the world because it was something new then and by the time it got serious, already the C19 hitchhikes its way to the rest of the world liao.

    But look at the local scene, China is almost 13,000 times the size of Sinkiland and with the exception of the 2 minor infected cities (about 100 or so local cases), the 500 plus remaining cities are specky clean.

    That goes to show that their efforts and methods do work.

    That having said, I do agree with you that a full lockdown cannot be implemented in Sinkieland for the reasons you have mentioned and more.

    For a start, Sinkies are generally selfish and not as united as the Chinese, so it is logistically impossible to activate on a huge scale the community centres to attend to the residents during a complete lockdown. Most Sinkies would prefer to stay home and surf porn than risk an infection arranging for food and medication to each household, you agree or not?

    I dare say when it comes to matters of national proportions, the Chinese are much more united than many others.

    For example: During the recent ponding in HeNan, ZhengZhou, billions were donated by businesses and individuals out of their own accord, there was no urging from the authorities to do so.

    If you look at the thousands of videos online on how commoners went to the rescue (their local emergency services were overwhelmed) of those stuck in the flood, you end up telling yourself that these are the kind of people and society I want to live with and within.

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  • 4.16 million dead:

    While the Tech continue to spread rumours about mRNA, the death rate from Covid is now 4.16 million, rising by more than 8.000 per day.
    Perhaps he can tell us how to stop these deaths without the ‘dangerous’ mRNA which Biden put into his own body.
    Yes, the most powerful man on Earth, who have access to ALL the REAL science on the planet was jabbed with the very dangerous mRNA.
    Perhaps Tech have better access than Biden? Care to share?
    When you spread rumours, you kill!

    Udangharimau:
    When radio transmission was first made possible, people overwhelmingly believed that the radio waves would damage people health so bad that people would eventually die from the damage!

    When the first astronomer declared that planet earth is round, he had to go into hiding as authorities wanted him dead as this was beyond comprehension.

    Now, the mRNA vaccine, same same again as if homo sapient is as knowledgeable as they were many centuries ago!

    Tech: Err… do radio transmission and the earth being round kills? Well, the mRNA vaccine do kill, so wrong comparison.

    Tech: Excuse me hor, it is a FACT that mRNA vaccines do have side effects that KILLS, so it is not a false rumor. Anyone can choose to vaccinate or not, it’s entirely their perogative to take the risk, I am not stopping them from doing so.

    And I don’t give a fiack if the whatever president takes the vaccine or not, it’s none of my concern and I am not eager to compare with them. They can go mate with a spider for all I care.

    And just because I believe that the mRNA vaccine is currently not safe, I must come up with better solutions? What kind of a logic is that? Am I paid millions to come up with a solution? Half of the population on the planet can die from C19, if there is no solution means there is no solution, it’s as simple as that.

    Currently, the mRNA vaccine DOES NOT prevent infection nor transmission nor serious injuries nor death, take for fun and a false sense of security? It’s all I am saying, take the jab or not, none of my concern.

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  • MarBowling:

    4.16 million dead:
    July 27, 2021 at 10:17 pm (Quote)
    While the Tech continue to spread rumours about mRNA, the death rate from Covid is now 4.16 million, rising by more than 8.000 per day.
    Perhaps he can tell us how to stop these deaths without the ‘dangerous’ mRNA which Biden put into his own body.
    Yes, the most powerful man on Earth, who have access to ALL the REAL science on the planet was jabbed with the very dangerous mRNA.
    Perhaps Tech have better access than Biden? Care to share?
    When you spread rumours, you kill!

    Response: GREAT REBUTTAL by the Tech. Like many REAL scientists on planet earth who are AGAINST USING mNRA vaccines to TREAT Covid19, he is just STATING FACTS! Btw have you read about CONSTANT and NUMEROUS Western media reports AGAINST traditional Chinese Inactivated Vaccines, like Sinovac, etc citing DEATH as a result of taking Sinovac, in Indonesia, Thailand, etc? So by the same token and TO BE FAIR, are these blady buggers also SPREADING RUMOURS and KILL?

    EVERYONE OF US ON PLANET EARTH IS GIVEN BY HEAVEN A BRAIN TO JUDGE AND DECIDE FOR HERSELF OR HIMSELF WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG! PERIOD. YOUR DESTINY IS IN YOUR OWN HAND. YOUR LIFE IS WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE! LET’S LISTEN TO ONLY THE REAL SCIENTISTS, NOT THOSE SO-CALLED REAL SCIENTISTS CUM POLITICAL LAPDOGS! PERIOD!

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  • Udanghalimau:

    Adui…..!! Apa udang ini?

    U have to view it from this perspective: hundreds of years ago, people believed that the radio transmission was harmful to people. Then, those people died suddenly of dubious causes would definitely be blamed on the radio transmission waves! So as mRNA now, few decades down the road, science might be able to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that it doesn’t kill but save life. And those who are now telling people that mRNA might cause this and that are just equal to those who, hundreds of years ago, telling people that radio transmission waves kill!

    Furthermore, the discovery that planet earth is round was treated as heresy by the Holy See. At that time, people who promote heresy were punishable by death. Thus, it is definitely much more deadlier than COVID-19!

    Alamak! Udang can understand but not homo sapient? What has happened to homo sapient all these years?

    Udangharimau:
    When radio transmission was first made possible, people overwhelmingly believed that the radio waves would damage people health so bad that people would eventually die from the damage!

    When the first astronomer declared that planet earth is round, he had to go into hiding as authorities wanted him dead as this was beyond comprehension.

    Now, the mRNA vaccine, same same again as if homo sapient is as knowledgeable as they were many centuries ago!

    Tech: Err… do radio transmission and the earth being round kills? Well, the mRNA vaccine do kill, so wrong comparison.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    To “4.16 million dead”,

    You said “Perhaps he can tell us how to stop these deaths without the ‘dangerous’ mRNA …”

    Actually, there IS already an ALTERNATIVE. Its called Ivermectin.
    There are other alternatives discovered too (e.g. Fluvoxamine) but currently, the likely best candidate and most-proven one is Ivermectin.
    Fyi, a Japanese medical researcher jointly won the Nobel prize in Medicine for his work on this Ivermectin way back in the 1970s !!

    Incidentally, Ivermectin is also on the WHO’s (World Health Org) list of “essential” medicines and 3.7 BILLION doses worldwide has been issued to-date, including to many children, with only a handful of cases of mild side effects.

    Search for “Ivermectin” under this link
    https://list.essentialmeds.org/

    MSM and Yahoo/Google/Facebook etc. are all trying to censor the fact that this (re-purposed) medicine was found (by many doctors treating COVID) to be SAFE & HIGHLY EFFECTIVE against all COVID variants. It is NOT a vaccine, but just like penicillin, it helps your own body to fight off these viruses by wrapping up a broad aspects of the receptors to those spike proteins you heard about. There could be other medicinal opertins at work but no formal study has been published yet – partly because this is a generic drug (with patent already expired) so there is NO $$$ to be made from this anymore. Get it?

    That is why most Sinkies are blur and belief the HALF-Truths of those with vested interest & $$$ to make from needless vaccine$ of course.

    So, there you go. A safe yet CHEAP alternative medicine is already available, so your argument is moot and completely debunked. Full Stop.

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  • @MarBowling

    Thank you, I was merely stating a matter of fact. Even the creator of the mRNA is against using it, what more need to be said?

    No cure means simpley not cures, why bother to implement something else that will worsen the current situation and add another possibility of dying from an SAE, dio bo?

    Like AIDS, also no solution wat, then how? Practise safe sex lar, must everything also wait for PAPies to say then do meh?

    Want me to give permanent solution for AIDS can, be a monk or eunuch lor, problem solved. lol

    Sinkie are bloody damned spoilt, LEEders no open mouth, all lost for directions liao. And when LEEders open mouth, all follow blindly, the PAPies really did a good job of cultivating a nation of obedient slaves and zombies.

    What do you think?

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  • MarBowling:

    TRE Techie:
    July 28, 2021 at 4:01 pm (Quote)
    @MarBowling

    Thank you, I was merely stating a matter of fact. Even the creator of the mRNA is against using it, what more need to be said?

    No cure means simpley not cures, why bother to implement something else that will worsen the current situation and add another possibility of dying from an SAE, dio bo?

    Like AIDS, also no solution wat, then how? Practise safe sex lar, must everything also wait for PAPies to say then do meh?

    Want me to give permanent solution for AIDS can, be a monk or eunuch lor, problem solved. lol

    Sinkie are bloody damned spoilt, LEEders no open mouth, all lost for directions liao. And when LEEders open mouth, all follow blindly, the PAPies really did a good job of cultivating a nation of obedient slaves and zombies.

    What do you think?

    Response: TOTALLY Agree With your GREAT Comments. THINK it’s our EDUCATION SYSTEM that is churning out mostly BOOKWORM whO can only MEMORIZE and RECITE 99.9% what TAUGHT to them! Unable to ANALYZE and THINK IN DEPTH of SOLUTIONS to most problems, especially the SERIOUS ONES like Covid19, the absurd prices of our artificially highly inflated HDB flats. etc. And as you have said APPROPRIATELY, JUST WAIT FOR LEEders to OPEN MOUTH, ALL FOLLOW BLINDLY!

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  • Udang bodoh:

    This udang logic is super flawed and bias.

    Udang is only using events that turned out to be harmless and true, but sneakily not using events that turned out to be harmful and false.

    Example: Udang uses “round earth is fake but actually real”, and “radio kills but actually doesnt” linkages. We now replace the linkages with “witchcraft is real but actually not” and “drinking cow pee cures COVID but actually don’t”, but know that these are actually harmful and false.

    Further copying Udang’s conclusion style, “few decades down the road, science might be able to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that mRNA vaccine harms more than it saves”.

    This is why even Udang can understand but not homo sapient. Cause Udang logic only belong to Udang world, and and homo sapient need to devolve to Udang IQ to understand.

    Disclaimer: I am not a proponent of for or against vaccine, but I am a proponent of using one’s brain more and being more skeptical in this crazy world.

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  • Udangharimau:

    Suda maras?

    If you don’t care if others proceed to get vaccinated or not as it is none of your business? Then something bewildering is why you always stated in your many posts that the current COVID-19 vaccines are not safe? Just let them decide without having you to tell them what you have been believing would be much better, don’t you think so? You are not obligated to do what you have been doing all this while!

    Next, kau pun selalu chacap: getting vaccinated would increase one’s chances of seeing his maker.

    This is not a justified statement. All medical treatments involved risks. By your logic, if one is having heart problems and expected to live , if no valid treatment is rendered, for around one year. Now, if there is a chance to get a heart transplant which is a high risk surgery, your logic will suggest he doesn’t go for it as he might die sooner because of the surgery which might or might not help, correct?

    In Singapore, the current situation is: getting Covid-19 is quite a remote possibility. If get infected unfortunately, the chances of dying by it is less than 3%. If the chances of dying by the current vaccination programme available here is added on, the total risk stays low, very low indeed!

    Bang, jagan maras ah! Udang’s intelligence is always inferior as compared to that of the homo sapient, ok?

    Tech: Excuse me hor, it is a FACT that mRNA vaccines do have side effects that KILLS, so it is not a false rumor. Anyone can choose to vaccinate or not, it’s entirely their perogative to take the risk, I am not stopping them from doing so.

    Currently, the mRNA vaccine DOES NOT prevent infection nor transmission nor serious injuries nor death, take for fun and a false sense of security? It’s all I am saying, take the jab or not, none of my concern.

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  • @Udangharimau

    Your comparison is not entirely correct and not a fair reflection of the situation on hand.

    If one ALREADY HAS heart problems, and when surgery is the only option left, then it is a calculated risk which the patient should decide on.

    However, in the case of the C19, one DO NOT ALREADY have the C19, merely a minute possibility that one MAY BE bitten, so one NEED NOT take the further risk of getting injured or dying from the vaccine.

    I live in an estate full of medical professionals who have all (except those exempted like young children, pregnant, etc) taken the vaccine under “strong advise” and in our daily chit chat, not all are agreeable that the mRNA vaccine are a safe bet.

    Mind you, these are all medical professionals in their own right, so should I believe them or one half-past-six so-called experts and the political appointees in MTF?

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Everyone, please STOP arguing this pointlessly on and on…
    Whether the mRNA vaccines is safe or not, or effective or not against COVID variants is a MOOT point now – when there is already a CHEAP, SAFE & EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVE (with Ivermectin)!

    This mRNA is a diversion on the real “cure”, and also just a means for the Pharma companies to make more $$$. Now, apparently, they are saying you need booster shots for Delta vairants.
    In future, what if got Gamma / Omicron / Omega / variants etc.? LOL.

    https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-raises-estimates-2021-sales-104824392.html

    Maybe 6 months later, “Pay And Pay” will say “No more Free vaccine”, so you need to pay $ now, for MORE booster shots to boost their revenue$. Sekali, the mRNA become like Cocaine – give you “FREE” initially, then when your body is “hooked” & can no longer do “natural immunity” to fight viruses, then every other month, you have to pay $$$ to get ADDITIONAL booster shots otherwise will suffer like the drug addicts?
    If so, Sinkies will become real literal SLAVE$ to “Pay And Pay”? LOL.

    I see many gullible Sinkies with SSS (Spineless Sinkie Syndrome) still falling in line to get their mRNA jobs. Here…little Sinkies…come come and get your “FREE” booster jabs….LOL.

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  • MarBowling:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:
    July 29, 2021 at 4:53 pm (Quote)
    Everyone, please STOP arguing this pointlessly on and on…
    Whether the mRNA vaccines is safe or not, or effective or not against COVID variants is a MOOT point now – when there is already a CHEAP, SAFE & EFFECTIVE ALTERNATIVE (with Ivermectin)!

    This mRNA is a diversion on the real “cure”, and also just a means for the Pharma companies to make more $$$. Now, apparently, they are saying you need booster shots for Delta vairants.
    In future, what if got Gamma / Omicron / Omega / variants etc.? LOL.

    https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/pfizer-raises-estimates-2021-sales-104824392.html

    Maybe 6 months later, “Pay And Pay” will say “No more Free vaccine”, so you need to pay $ now, for MORE booster shots to boost their revenue$. Sekali, the mRNA become like Cocaine – give you “FREE” initially, then when your body is “hooked” & can no longer do “natural immunity” to fight viruses, then every other month, you have to pay $$$ to get ADDITIONAL booster shots otherwise will suffer like the drug addicts?
    If so, Sinkies will become real literal SLAVE$ to “Pay And Pay”? LOL.

    I see many gullible Sinkies with SSS (Spineless Sinkie Syndrome) still falling in line to get their mRNA jobs. Here…little Sinkies…come come and get your “FREE” booster jabs….LOL.

    Response: The PICTURE that you have PAINTED is VERY VERY SCARY! Some of those EAGER Folks who die die must jab with the Holee mNRA vaccines AFTER reading your comments MAY NOW UNABLE TO SLEEP, EAT OR SHIT ALL DAY AND NIGHT LOONG! LOL!

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  • raymond1705:

    Vaccinate the ENTIRE NATION,

    THIS CERTAINLY CAN BE DONE.

    The problem created by PAP is
    1)they invested heavily in pfizer, hence, for commercial reason, PAP inclined to exclude Sinovac in National Vaccination Programme. (WHO has long approved it, MOH gave excuse of still avaiting for “don’t know what data” for the past months,

    in the hope of pushing high vaccination using pfizer.

    In view of irreversible and long term side effect by pfizer,

    a choice should be GIVEN TO SG citizens at the start when choosing vaccination.

    Sinovac using proven traditional technique, and has so far no such common sever long term side effect,

    PAP deliberate administration delay, the main culprit for low SG vaccination rate, and until now, PAP still don’t recognize those who has jabbed SinoVac as being vaccinated, still want to discriminate this small group by excluding them as being vaccinated,

    such that for example, this small group will still subject to be treated as being “unvaccinated” administratively, and is subject to same treatment and restriction as those have not been vaccinated at all.

    Trouble maker is PAP, NOT the unvaccinated SG citizens

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  • MarBowling:

    raymond1705:
    August 1, 2021 at 1:36 am (Quote)
    Vaccinate the ENTIRE NATION,

    THIS CERTAINLY CAN BE DONE.

    The problem created by PAP is
    1)they invested heavily in pfizer, hence, for commercial reason, PAP inclined to exclude Sinovac in National Vaccination Programme. (WHO has long approved it, MOH gave excuse of still avaiting for “don’t know what data” for the past months,

    in the hope of pushing high vaccination using pfizer.

    In view of irreversible and long term side effect by pfizer,

    a choice should be GIVEN TO SG citizens at the start when choosing vaccination.

    Sinovac using proven traditional technique, and has so far no such common sever long term side effect,

    PAP deliberate administration delay, the main culprit for low SG vaccination rate, and until now, PAP still don’t recognize those who has jabbed SinoVac as being vaccinated, still want to discriminate this small group by excluding them as being vaccinated,

    such that for example, this small group will still subject to be treated as being “unvaccinated” administratively, and is subject to same treatment and restriction as those have not been vaccinated at all.

    Trouble maker is PAP, NOT the unvaccinated SG citizens

    Response: totally agree with your Mother of ALL GREAT Comments. Mai Hum and Wifey Holee Jinx and his PAPigs Gang have BLOODS of those who are GREATLY AFFECTED by his DISCRIMINATING Policy, in their FILTHY and SMELLY HANDS! Period. LOTS OF FOLKS IN SMALL BUSINESS ARE IN DIRE SITUATION!

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  • Elite:

    Point of Entry – Causeway – Checked
    Changi Airport – Checked but still Covid positive passed through.. still ok. Manageable.
    Jurong Fishery Port – not sure leh. Did anyone miss out this point of entry into Singapore.

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  • LN:

    Sorry I have been somewhat late in my response.

    First I concur with comments of the writer , Andrew , our in house tech.

    Instead of trying to explain how this experimental synthetic gene therapy works , let me quote the link dated 7/6/21 and interested readers and Andrew can go through it.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/vaccine-researcher-weve-made-a-big-mistake/

    Just quote the opening statement of this Canadian researcher in viral
    immununology , Associate Professor Bridle ” We’ve made a big mistake ”

    And that the spike protein is not harmless but a toxin and “………..gets into the bloodstream and is carried through the circulation to many other sites in the body. Previously confidential animal studies using radioactive tracing show it to go just about everywhere, including the adrenal glands, heart, liver, kidneys, lungs, ovaries, pancreas, pituitary gland, prostate, salivary glands, intestines, spinal cord, spleen, stomach, testes, thymus, and uterus.

    and “…., the vaccine has a device that protects the spike protein mechanism against immediate destruction by the body.

    The above was also discussed and confirmed by Dr Robert Malone in an interview with Brett Weinstein and Kirsch. Dr Malone is the inventor of mRNA/DNA technology.

    COVID – HOW TO SAVE THE WORLD, IN THREE EASY STEPS. BRETT WEINSTEIN DR ROBERT MALONE STEVE KIRSCH

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/SjOH3w7AVXFq/

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  • @ln

    I have read about the interview and seen the video of Dr Malone talking about the mRNA vaccine.

    What he and the Canadian experts are saying is basically that the mRNA vaccine causes more harm than good, so absolutely the risks DOES NOT outweigh the benefits (if any).

    For those who have taken the vaccine, the side effects can be slow, not necessarily instant injury or death, it can take months and even years for the toxin to SLOWLY accumulate in the various organs in the body, eventually and slowly the organs will be attacked and fail.

    I would really love to hear the response of that so-called medical expert in the MTF, but he has been quiet lately, strange I find because he had been singing praises of the vaccine and how the benefits outweigh the risk, almost on a daily basis.

    Since he is paid to hoodwink the dafts into getting vaccinated with the cash-cow vaccine from Temasick, I find it extremely strange that he is so quiet nowadays.

    Has he been bitten by the Delta C19?

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  • LN:

    Andrew and folks ,

    Below is one piece of latest info Singaporeans should know and question data our local media daily presented that data are tweaked ie. questionable.

    And latest news : “…reported ground truth in Israel.”

    For those who are not aware , Dr Robert W Malone is inventor of the mRNA/DNA technology

    Robert W Malone, MD
    @RWMaloneMD

    Good to know: reported ground truth in Israel

    https://mobile.twitter.com/rwmalonemd/status/1423332834282979329

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