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Long term effects of mRNA vaccines

Some people are worried that the mNRA vaccine can have side effects over the long term.

Their reasoning is that the vaccine is introduced only recently and approved “for emergency use”. It has not gone through a longer term test of its possible side effects.

I do not understand this concern.

We now take all kinds of drugs to treat many illness. They all require some “foreign body” to be introduced into our body. We rely on clinical trials to prove their safety. We do not need to wait to learn about its long term side effects.

I adopt the same approach towards the mNRA vaccines. If it is proved to be safe on the clinical trials, there is no need to worry or speculate about its long term effects.

The vaccine has already been issued on several billion people. They are some adverse side effects, but the incidences are very low.

Over the long term, we will have to face new challenges. It may be impossible to say that the future problems are caused by the mNRA vaccines that are used today.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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37 Responses to “Long term effects of mRNA vaccines”

  • oxygen:

    LIKE SHEEP LED TO THE SLAUGHTER, here is the comforting, most reassuring news.

    Reuters:BioNTech said that repeat shots of its COVID-19 vaccine, of which more than a billion doses have now been supplied worldwide, was a better strategy than tailoring the product it developed with Pfizer (PFE.N) to new variants.

    The German biotech firm said that offering a third dose of its established two-shot vaccine remained the best response to concerns over waning immune protection in the face of the highly contagious Delta variant, as worse strains may emerge.

    BioNTech says vaccine repeats beat devising new one for now

    https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/biontech-says-has-supplied-more-than-1-bln-covid-19-vaccine-doses-so-far-2021-08-09/

    Big pharma is betting with your life and collecting your vaccination money.

    Malnutritioned brains are all celebrating.

    Whatever happens to “logic, reason and statistical knowledge” that some self-acclaimed scholars/experts have been touting in TRE?

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  • Taleban:

    mRAN vaccine was developed recently. The track record is maybe a year or two.
    Hypothetical, after a few years, the vaccine turns the innoculated into zombies. The world will be very difference.
    Or half the vaccinated people developed some illness and died.
    Mother nature will claim back the earth.
    No climate changes, no pollution, plenty of food and nature resource shared by few.

    Tech: Maybe then the world might be a better place because mostly those who took the vaccines are gullible and daft. lol

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  • oxygen:

    HONG LIM PARK HYFLUX FAME CARNIVAL BUSKERS/CIRCUS JESTERS perhaps all want to read this comical illumination and have the biggest laughter of their lives- EVER.

    theburningplatform.com :The panic porn media was running non-stop horror stories about India and the bodies piling up in the streets back in May. At that time less than 4% of the Indian population had been vaxxed.

    Even today it is only 7% of their 1.3 billion people. The talking heads, and Fauci, all pointed to India as a humanitarian tragedy in the making – using it as their fear tactic for getting the jab. But their narrative fell apart in a matter of weeks and you no longer hear about India on the nightly news.

    That’s because cases crashed by 90% in the two months from the peak in May. And guess what? It happened with no vaccine rollout. They did send tens of millions of doses of ivermectin out to the population. These FACTS do not support the approved narrative being spun by our contemptible corrupt leaders.

    TRUST THE SCIENCE?

    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/08/07/trust-the-science-4/

    POLITICAL COWS, AND “SCIENCE” (aka Big Pharma alongside FDA/CDC) are better at clowning than HONG LIM PARK HYFLUX FAME CARNIVAL BUSKERS/CIRCUS JESTERS.

    The 10c per troll stooges will find it very hard to earn their school fees to go back to kindergarten to learn about how to differentiate/disseminate truths from falsity.

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  • oxygen:

    Here is some sobering read of the historical record of Big Pharma’s reliability of vaccine development and promotional conduct.

    And We Should Trust ‘The Science’ of the Pharma Industry?

    http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO29July2021.php

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  • oxygen:

    Taiwan has even lower death rate than LEE-jiapore and bikini-thin percent of its population vaccinated.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/video/life-in-taiwan-which-has-only-seen-7-covid-19-deaths/AECC2974-E746-4B7A-9E94-C21BB591E6E9.html

    And in contrast in LEE-jiapore, the higher the vaccination rate (fully vaccinated basis) the bigger the escalation is the number of cluster (and the number of infected in each cluster) of community cases and also the number of unlinked cases.

    HOW COME TAIWAN can achieved far better results with miniscule risks of alternative hypothesis error that the mass vaccination has consequences un-thought of and unthinkable at this moment?

    Big pharma is laughing ear-to-ear looking for more idiots to volunteer for unknown number of coming “booster” jabs instead of playing hide-and-seek with the mutating virus – PLAYING CATCH UP from behind.

    The rest of the vaccine hesitant lot must be laughing at those malnutritioned minds making a circus of themselves in cyberspace.

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  • PAP is indeed a police state:

    Straits Times: River Valley High School student remanded for two more weeks for psychiatric evaluation

    “Mr Sunil (lawyer of defendant) asked that the court grant them five minutes to speak with the teen so they could check on his well-being.

    But the prosecution objected to this, telling the court that the teen faces a capital charge and investigations are still ongoing.

    District Judge Brenda Tan denied the request from the defence.”

    This is ludicrous. Did the police tell the Sec 4 student he has a right to remain silent before starting its “investigation”? Did it tell the accused that anything he/she says can be used against him/her?

    The practice of the Singapore Police Force of not informing the accused of his/her rights and not allowing him/her access to a lawyer clearly shows that Singapore is a POLICE STATE where people held by the police have no rights.

    The parents of the Sec 4 students should also be questioned by the police SEPARATELY.

    Tech: Under Sinkie laws, there is no such thing as “the right to remain silent”. In fact, if an accused were to remain silent, the court may draw adverse influence against the accused. I remembered one retired very senior home team officer once told me, unless you are very sure that you are innocent, better not remain silent.

    That having said, the DPP also another kind. Five minutes with the accused, in full view of the court can make a difference to a slam-dunk case?

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    The perfect WAY to reduce population…after killing the innocent through ABORTION…kill the elderly through VACCINATION…The man who Con You will have a FEAST when he returns to earth for his Yearly Feasting in August when the Gates of Hell open “don’burn hell money for me VACCINATE for me n my Master Mr $$$Satan”

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  • MarBowling:

    Think Tan Golden Chain is cocksure the Loong Term side effects after taking the Holee mNRA vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna, are MILD and Sup Sup the Water.

    Here, would like to say GOOD LUCK to him, his children and grandchildren who based on cocksure comments MOST LIKELY HAVE TAKEN THOSE HOLEE mNRA vaccines such as Pfizer and Moderna! Tan Golden Chain, Jia Yu!

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  • Macro:

    mRNA vaccines first ‘born’ in 1989 with its official publications.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine

    So a 30 years experiment IS not ‘recently’. This is to correct your gap in understanding.

    However, while mentioning it ’30 years’ of experiments and yet until 2019 is still very much a lab tested vaccines, tell us a M.E.S.S.A.G.E. isn’t it?

    If it is so good, why don’t we vaccinate ourselves using mRNA against HIV, Influenza, or Hep-B etc? It is not profitable or it is plain useless because of its stability? Or the fact is that its effectiveness last just few months with the ‘non-toxic’ amount injected? Is that the reason for manufacturing in SG since constant need for boosters is required? Just like taking drugs or just like yearly anti-virus subscription?

    Why govs all around the world need to sign ‘secret’ agreements to excuse the vaccines makers from any future liabilities on any vaccines caused injuries?

    Now, the fact is, most mRNA research information (on/before 2019) is unsearchable in normal search engines. This is the new world, the media giants are controlling what we can and cannot read. Just like China.

    Those who took vaccines (mRNA or not) might not be gullible and daft. Those gullible and daft usually reflect in their own messages laughing at others.

    Taleban:
    mRAN vaccine was developed recently. The track record is maybe a year or two.
    Hypothetical, after a few years, the vaccine turns the innoculated into zombies. The world will be very difference.
    Or half the vaccinated people developed some illness and died.
    Mother nature will claim back the earth.
    No climate changes, no pollution, plenty of food and nature resource shared by few.

    Tech: Maybe then the world might be a better place because mostly those who took the vaccines are gullible and daft. lol

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  • Why need so many reasons:

    Why do AntiVaxxers spend so much of their waking hours searching the Internet about the danger of mRNA is?
    And
    How ineffective other vaccines are?
    Are you not wasting your time?
    Why do you need so many reasons NOT to jab?
    Those that are vaccinated cannot do a Un-vaccination.
    They have read the data and made their decision.
    Repeat AntiVaxxers are not any smarter than pro-vaxxers; please do not claim otherwise, or else you disgrace your parents.
    The Difference between pro- and anti-vax is simply.
    Pro-vax trust W.H.O.
    Anti-vax do not; nor ANY of the 195 governments. [REFLECT on this statement.]
    Meanwhile the death toll from Covid is…4,320,626
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    Life decisions have consequences.
    AntiVax still have a choice; Pro-Vax already made theirs.
    They face different level of risk DAILY. And for years to come.

    Tech: Your logic is warped. Just because so many have died from the C19, everyone must rushed to get jab, even if it means the current vaccines are not safe and may cause injuries and deaths? AIDS until today still no vaccine or cure, so then how? Don’t engage in casual ONS and visit geylang right, must die die find something to jab meh, if really cannot find something to jab then how, cut issit?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Why need so many reasons

    AIYAH, outside the mRNA contraption, there is the Chinese vaccines.

    Why need so many reasons: How ineffective other vaccines are?

    Here is their little confession of effectiveness – right from the horse’ mouth.

    Top Chinese official admits vaccines have low effectiveness

    https://apnews.com/article/china-gao-fu-vaccines-offer-low-protection-coronavirus-675bcb6b5710c7329823148ffbff6ef9

    Me thinks pro-vaxxers failed their parents education, endangering their lives out of ignorance and denial of reality.

    Why need so many reasons: or else you disgrace your parents.

    As for this – too early to tell, but Big Pharma got bad reputations and regulators like FDA/CDC keeps changing their minds and trapped in a reputation of a moral cesspool too.

    Why need so many reasons: Life decisions have consequences.
    AntiVax still have a choice; Pro-Vax already made theirs.
    They face different level of risk DAILY. And for years to come.

    Remember the virus keeps mutating too, vaccines are playing the catch-up a long distance behind whilst happily collecting money from their endless recommendations of “booster jabs” in waiting.

    They got a captive customer base of billions of trapped gullibility fed by contemptible ever lying political cows and their 10-cents per troll posting stooges.

    Tech: Just the thought of having to play Russian Roulette every few months is already a turn off for many.

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  • Talking like a CEO:

    Mr Tan is very good, talking like an insurance CEO. Yes, sell all the insurance you can. Take the money now. In the long term, they may not be able to prove that they are covered by the insurance.

    He’s also talking like a covid vaccine company CEO. In the long term, they CANNOT prove anything. We are covered with secret agreements from their governments, They die, their business.

    To the guy screaming non-stop about 195 governments, have you seen their secret agreements with the drug companies? Of course NOT!

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  • Tan Kin Lian Is an Idiot:

    Tan Golden Lotus, a woman’s name, is an idiot trying to show the world he is an idiot.

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  • Harder Truths:

    This is why Guinea Pig Hub is in cahoots with Big Pharma. The Sputnik vaccine developed by Russia has been tested in 64 countries as the most effective anti-CoVID – but the Regime will not allow us to have it because the goal is to make us Guinea Pigs for Big Pharma.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine-how-much-do-we-know-about-its-side-effects

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  • FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY:

    Double-dose vaccinated guineas still remain unshielded against Delta, Delta++ and numerous forthcoming aggressive variants due to exponential mutations of the Covids.

    Hence, the false sense of security is like a true conspiracy of the New-World-Order Illuminatic Pharmasites parasiting massively on innocent sheep.

    Be prepared to go for many more rounds of vaccine doses that might/will eventually alter human genes instead of fortifying the body’s immunity.

    Vaccinodeaths are lurking at the hellgates of every HumanFarm aka Animal Farm.

    Covids are now getting much more resistant to vaccines. Thus, vaccines can never play catch up with ‘U-Cannot-Catch-Me’ Covids.

    Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon and so on…. A never ending story. It’s an enigmatic world of madness!

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  • #08-193 Huang Ba Dan Always:

    That’s right. TKL should try first, then let us know.

    Talking like a CEO:
    Mr Tan is very good, talking like an insurance CEO. Yes, sell all the insurance you can. Take the money now. In the long term, they may not be able to prove that they are covered by the insurance.

    He’s also talking like a covid vaccine company CEO. In the long term, they CANNOT prove anything. We are covered with secret agreements from their governments, They die, their business.

    To the guy screaming non-stop about 195 governments, have you seen their secret agreements with the drug companies? Of course NOT!

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  • #08-193 Huang Ba Dan Always:

    Later got alpha, bravo, charlie, so must jab again. How many times people want to get jabbed?

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  • Ujongchepat:

    Came across an analysis by a medical doctor. He said that any virus if it is too lethal and could kill too easily will not stay long, it will kill itself out in no time. The law of nature will guide the virus to mutate to become milder and milder so as to coexist with its target. Eventually, vaccines or no vaccines, people will develop herd immunity and it will become part and parcel of life just like the common flu.

    Fret not, overwhelming majority of us will live to witness the end of the current crisis.

    FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY:
    Double-dose vaccinated guineas still remain unshielded against Delta, Delta++ and numerous forthcoming aggressive variants due to exponential mutations of the Covids.

    Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon and so on…. A never ending story. It’s an enigmatic world of madness!

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  • MarBowling:

    #08-193 Huang Ba Dan Always:
    August 11, 2021 at 7:11 am (Quote)
    Later got alpha, bravo, charlie, so must jab again. How many times people want to get jabbed?

    Response: Great Q! To the Husband(Mai Hum)and Wifey(Holee Jinx)Tag Team, the MORE HOLEE JABS THE MERRIER, PERIOD. As Indian Chiefs of Tombmasek Holdings and GIC(under the Armpit of Wifey Holee Jinx and Mai Hum respectively)our 2 SWFs have INVESTED hundreds of millions of taxpayers hard earned money in the pharmaceutical company Pfizer and also PRE-ORDERED HUGE STOCK OF THE HOLEE Pfizer vaccines costing $billions of taxpayers hard earned money! The Mother of ALL HUGE PRE-ORDERED STOCK of Pfizer vaccines(ONLY 6 MONTHS SHELF Life)is ARRIVING to SinKapore in batches VERY FAST AND FURIOUS! Maybe they are QUIETLY HOPING more variants(alpha, bravo, Charlie and FU)to APPEAR FAST AND FURIOUS which may put FEAR INTO THOSE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS UNVACCINATED FOLKS TO GO FOR THE SO-CALLED FOC HOLEE PFIZER JABS ASAP! Btw they are NOT FREE, OK. THEY ARE PURCHASED AT ABOUT $20/dose using taxpayers hard earned money, ok! Expected 3 millions x S$20 x 2 Doses of Holee Pfizer jabs = $1.2 billions! So to date, how many SinKaporean have Taken the Holee Pfizer jabs?

    Both are getting DESPERATE AND SWEATY UNDER THE ARMPIT when those UNVACCINATED FOLKS are taking their OWN SWEETER THAN SWEET TIME TO DECIDE! THEY DESPERATELY WANT TO REOPEN OUR CUNTRY TO FOREIGN INVESTORS AND VISITORS ASAP, AND BY EXTENSION TO RESUME THEIR OPEN-LEG POLICY TO FTs especially from CECALAND!

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  • stating all the side effects:

    //We now take all kinds of drugs to treat many illness. They all require some “foreign body” to be introduced into our body.//

    aiyoh. at least all kinds of drugs (especially those not the usual off-the- shelf drugs) undergo all the usual approval process (enough time and controlled sample population for trial tests ???) to iron out as much as possible the kinks, if any ????

    still they tell you with this and that (stating the possible side effects whether long term or short term ???) AND telling you not to take it if got medical conditions AND ultimately you still have a choice NOT to take it (not like some wayang idiots telling you voluntary but indirectly have all the wayang measures to pressure all to take something still very experimental and very rushed through one (new information keeps on coming out every now and then ???) ????

    me not ANTI-vaxxer lar just that the message & signal in the environment makes one feel uncomfortable lar ???

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  • ONE WORLD ONE RACE:

    After so many jabs all become Jabanese.
    One World One Race.

    Sheeples shall bleat nomore but left to bray in the wilderness for donkey years till death comes.

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  • ah chik:

    What is VACCINATION/ A VACCINE ?
    It is NOT ANY MAKE-$hift immunisation or do more educated people think and accept it is?
    Maybe i am wrong but REPEATING A VACCINE makes the whole thing looks fishy to me.It is lame.
    A VACCINE IS NOT A PAIN RELIEF PILL LIKE PARACETAMOL AND IT OUGHT NOT TO BE.
    Else,why call it VACCINE?
    Maybe PSEUDO-VACCINE is more like it?

    Well,i am still waiting for a REAL VACCINE.
    I hate to be addicted to drugs unnecessarily.

    So,if a THIRD SHOT does not avail long-term protection,does it mean we keep repeating?
    Is this the NEW NORM FOR VACCINES?

    MAKES A SIMPLETON LIKE me WONDERS.
    Could some real experts explain?
    Assoc Prof Mak?

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  • concern:

    Concern that the Vaccine data and test is not robust enough.
    The long term effect is still unknown at this stage. Test not long enough to do a proper evaluation.
    The benefits may not outweigh the risk as thought.

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  • #08-193 Huang Ba Dan Always:

    Still want to open legs wide wide when there are STDs around.

    MarBowling:
    #08-193 Huang Ba Dan Always:
    August 11, 2021 at 7:11 am (Quote)
    Later got alpha, bravo, charlie, so must jab again. How many times people want to get jabbed?

    Response: Great Q! To the Husband(Mai Hum)and Wifey(Holee Jinx)Tag Team, the MORE HOLEE JABS THE MERRIER, PERIOD. As Indian Chiefs of Tombmasek Holdings and GIC(under the Armpit of Wifey Holee Jinx and Mai Hum respectively)our 2 SWFs have INVESTED hundreds of millions of taxpayers hard earned money in the pharmaceutical company Pfizer and also PRE-ORDERED HUGE STOCK OF THE HOLEE Pfizer vaccines costing $billions of taxpayers hard earned money! The Mother of ALL HUGE PRE-ORDERED STOCK of Pfizer vaccines(ONLY 6 MONTHS SHELF Life)is ARRIVING to SinKapore in batches VERY FAST AND FURIOUS! Maybe they are QUIETLY HOPING more variants(alpha, bravo, Charlie and FU)to APPEAR FAST AND FURIOUS which may put FEAR INTO THOSE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS UNVACCINATED FOLKS TO GO FOR THE SO-CALLED FOC HOLEE PFIZER JABS ASAP! Btw they are NOT FREE, OK. THEY ARE PURCHASED AT ABOUT $20/dose using taxpayers hard earned money, ok! Expected 3 millions x S$20 x 2 Doses of Holee Pfizer jabs = $1.2 billions! So to date, how many SinKaporean have Taken the Holee Pfizer jabs?

    Both are getting DESPERATE AND SWEATY UNDER THE ARMPIT when those UNVACCINATED FOLKS are taking their OWN SWEETER THAN SWEET TIME TO DECIDE! THEY DESPERATELY WANT TO REOPEN OUR CUNTRY TO FOREIGN INVESTORS AND VISITORS ASAP, AND BY EXTENSION TO RESUME THEIR OPEN-LEG POLICY TO FTs especially from CECALAND!

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  • oxygen:

    BREAKING NEWS: Financial market is rocked by this sudden unexpected revelation about mRNA vaccine,

    Moderna, BioNTech Plunge As EU Studies Possible Side-effects Of mRNA Shots

    https://sg.yahoo.com/finance/news/moderna-biontech-plunge-eu-studies-130334137.html

    Investing com:slumped by 15% each Wednesday on a report that Europe’s drug regulator is studying three new conditions reported by a small number of people after vaccination with Covid-19 shots to assess if they may be possible side-effects.

    The conditions were reported in patients who took the mRNA vaccines made by either Moderna or BioNTech-Pfizer.

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  • oxygen:

    BIG PHARMA covid-19 vaccines are all mired in controversy, Read these comments on AstraZenecca/Oxford roll-out stumbles round after round.

    Yahoo News:Initially hailed as “the vaccine for the world” when it appeared on European shores early this year, the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID inoculation, which was created in just 65 days and costs around $2 a dose, far below competing shots made by Pfizer and Moderna, held the promise of turning the tide on the pandemic.

    But after eight months of mounting frustration over still undelivered doses along with worries over rare associated blood clots, studies showing that it wasn’t as effective as other vaccines and a court action alleging the drug company was in breach of contract, the European Union is all but ditching the shot.

    Who are you going to give a vaccine like that to?” Fauci asked, and he and his colleagues at the National Institutes of Health questioned the data included in AstraZeneca’s clinical studies submitted in the U.S., effectively telling them to try again.

    How Europe soured on the AstraZeneca vaccine

    https://sg.yahoo.com/news/how-europe-soured-on-the-astra-zeneca-vaccine-090034721.html

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  • Pre 1798:

    Yes, the doctor is right.
    But should we let nature takes it course?
    And let millions die?
    That was the pre 1798 world[ before the very first shot of vaccine.
    ”One of history’s deadliest diseases, smallpox is estimated to have killed more than 300 million people since 1900 alone. But a massive global vaccination campaign put an end to the disease in 1977—making it the first disease ever eradicated.”….wikipedia
    …For Covid, we can stop the death rate from rising.
    …It is now 4,337,772
    …To AntiVaxxers, this ”4,337,772” is just a statistic; not a brother, sister, mother, child, neighbour, ……friend.
    …It seems so far away; they do not know any of them.
    The VACCINATED part of society is already being partially protected by vaccine.
    That is why 183 governments started vaccination; 4.56 billion doses given, rising by 39.1 million PER DAY.
    —But AntiVAxxers do not trust all governments, W.H.O, hence SCIENCE.
    What do they trust—INTERNET and FaceBOOK scientists.
    FaceBook and Internet Scientists and falsehood spreaders will kill more people than smallpox ever did; because then ALL NEW INFECTIOUS will be allowed to take it course. Back to pre 1798.
    VACCINE IS THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN FOR VERY INFECTIOUS DISEASES.

    Ujongchepat:
    Came across an analysis by a medical doctor. He said that any virus if it is too lethal and could kill too easily will not stay long, it will kill itself out in no time. The law of nature will guide the virus to mutate to become milder and milder so as to coexist with its target. Eventually, vaccines or no vaccines, people will develop herd immunity and it will become part and parcel of life just like the common flu.

    Fret not, overwhelming majority of us will live to witness the end of the current crisis.

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  • @Oxygen

    If the dafts are listeners, the PAP won’t be in absolute power today.

    Let them knock their heads on the wall and then feel the pain, the only way to let them wake up. Without that experience, they will never learn. The current MTF appears to be leading them on that route, so we should encourage them.

    This reminds me of a movie “zombie holocast” where people turn into zombies after being contaminated and those un-infected go around shooting them. Dun right? lol

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  • need such donation:

    //To AntiVaxxers, this ”4,337,772” is just a statistic; not a brother, sister, mother, child, neighbour, ……friend.//

    really or not ?? aiyoh you make it sound as though antivaxxers (or people somehow have good reason not to be vaxxed ???) in sinkie land contributed to this high figure and enjoy such morbid statistics leh ???

    a lot of deaths could have occurred in many other countries / areas where people wanted to get vaxxed but could not get it lar ??? and also could be due to many people all over the world who may have chat-ba-lang behaviors and are not your average daft sinkies lar ????

    why not you try helping by donating doses to those people from countries who have larger population and need such donation so that the the number will not get any higher ????

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  • Better safe than sorry:

    Reality is no one know the long term effect of these great Vaccines that everyone think will save them.
    There may be many surprise down the road that we will all live to regret.
    Better to err on the right side…

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  • MarBowling:

    Am very kaypoh and WONDERING SINCE THE OUTBREAK OF COVID19 TILL TO DATE, whether the Holee figure 4,337,772 of poor souls who have met their MAKER, ALSO include those poor folks dwelling in remote corners on planet earth which are OUT OF REACH and ACCESS to those Holee mNRA vaccines like Pfizer jab(@$20/jab)that are required to STORE in a $8000 minus 70 degrees Freezer that have ONLY 6 months shelf life)who have DIED AFTER Kenna INFECTED with Covid19 and its variants(alpha, beta, Charlie, DELTA and FU)and without ANY SORT OF VACCINATION OR HEALTH CARE!

    That 4.3 millions also include folks with Comorbidities Kenna KO as a result of the Holee Jab or Infected by Covid19 and its variants?

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  • Update:

    Reality is as of today 4,352,395 have already died of covid the DISEASE.
    These 4,352,395 humans, real life humans, never had a chance to worry about the possible long term effect of theses vaccines.
    They do not have a ‘down the road ‘ scenario.
    They did not have ‘a chance to regret it’.
    Many in poorer countries will sadly be in the same boat.
    They do not have the luxury to worry about the so-called side effects of vaccine fifty years later. If any.
    Meanwhile 4.6 Billion doses have been given; and pro-vaxxers are moving on with their lives.
    And..Antivaxxers continue to put on 3 layers of masks, continue to search the Internet to read about how dangerous vaccines are.

    Better safe than sorry:
    Reality is no one know the long term effect of these great Vaccines that everyone think will save them.
    There may be many surprise down the road that we will all live to regret.
    Better to err on the right side…

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  • LN:

    I like to quote the writer

    “……….I adopt the same approach towards the mNRA vaccines. If it is proved to be safe on the clinical trials, there is no need to worry or speculate about its long term effects…”

    He does not really know what he is talking about mRNA clinical trials. Pfizer’s clinical trials will only complete in early 2023 , period ! So it is far from complete. The writer should do some covid science research and not to depend on information from MSM and what governments and big tech feeding him, often are covid nonsense.

    ” proved to be safe “. Spend some time looking through this link and information within.

    Are mRNA vaxs safe ?

    VAERS Latest Data Include 2 New Reports of Teen Deaths Following COVID Vaccine, as Total Reports of Deaths Exceed 12,000

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-cdc-data-injuries-deaths-covid-vaccine/

    “…………..a total of 545,338 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 12,366 deaths and 70,105 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 30, 2021….”

    Suggest Tan K L and readers please spend some time day going to this site
    [ childrenshealthdefense.org ] and you will find covid science information aplenty NOT covid lies.

    FYI , VAERS : Vaccine Adverse Events Reposting System in US.

    mRNA vaxs are not vaccines but experimental synthetic gene therapy which induce body cells to produce viral spike proteins, a toxin.

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  • MarBowling:

    TRE Techie:
    August 13, 2021 at 10:10 pm (Quote)
    Mr Tan

    Half a million SAe is not noticeable to you?

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-cdc-data-injuries-deaths-covid-vaccine/

    Response: Cannot really blame him. Look closer at him: NOT only he is COCKY, he is also COCKEYED!

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  • oxygen:

    @ Update,

    A NUMBER OF UNIQUE CHARACTERISTIC AND behavorial traits are found in the habits of vaxxer fanatics.

    They belong to the disappearing ghostly fiction of (never failed of this kids-like behavior) changed monikers every time they come to TRE to broadcast misinformation.

    Update: Meanwhile 4.6 Billion doses have been given; and pro-vaxxers are moving on with their lives.
    And..Antivaxxers continue to put on 3 layers of masks, continue to search the Internet to read about how dangerous vaccines are

    But the lies they farted is the same – over 5 billion of still walking population size have been vaccinated. I checked at the beginning of the week, it was only 4.6 billion DOSES – some double jabs, others single jab which must mean a lot less than 5 billion PERSONS were vaccinated in reality.

    These 10 cents per troll IBs won’t earn enough of school fees to enrol in school of lies telling at the kindergarten level. Why their lies are not credible and soon enough the peasants leave them.

    So they now kuai kuai change the stats to 5 billion DOSES vaccinated here instead of 5 billion inhabitants vaccinated.

    BUT THAT DIDN’T CHANGED THEIR FASCIST-like inclination for holocaust practices. They want to decide for others their rights to chose of life and death determination ignoring that in common law application, BOTH CORPSES and human sperms and eggs have rights.

    Here are two weblinks of law rights for corpses and sperm/egg rights in assisted birth technology for illuminating the SILENT HYPOCRITICAL BENEVOLENCE of those vaxxer fanatics (some lower than scums on earth).

    Rights and Obligations As To Human Remains and Burial

    https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/rights-and-obligations-human-remains-and-burial

    and

    Maddox, Neil — “Retrieval and use of sperm after death: In the matter of Lee (deceased) and Long (applicant) [2017] NZHC 3263″ [2018] OtaLawRw 7; (2018) 15 Otago LR 303

    http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/nz/journals/OtaLawRw/2018/7.html?context=1;query=sperm%20+%20property%20right%20%20;mask_path=

    VAXXER FANATICS ARE EVIL FANATICS PLAYING DIVINE GOD of wisdom and holocaust akin to the days of Hitler’s fascism.

    Nobody has the right to choose life/death except the vaxxer fanatics.

    IGNORE THESE SCUMS.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Update,

    The aforementioned post must tell another lie of yours exposed. The Covid-19 vaccine hesitant (and maybe some others so-labelled as anti-vaxxers” DON’T

    Update: put on 3 layers of masks, continue to search the Internet to read about how dangerous vaccines are

    You see here that some actually spend time searching the internet to reading up about law, the right to freedom of choice of all living/walking beings in all matters of human rights and law compliance.

    The sick (maybe extraordinarily stupid beyond infinity) minds of vaxxer fanatics wants to exterminate those they disagree with with virulent disinformation if they can’t forcibly inject them with poison.

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