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Opposition Parties’ Stand on CECA transfer & Unemployed PMET

TR Emeritus (TRE) has received a few requests from some of our readers to ask for the opposition parties stand on the CECA, as the readers have noted that most opposition parties have been extremely quiet while only the Progress Singapore Party (PSP) is concerned with CECA.

Since the emails are several and in bits and pieces, we have compiled and merged the list of the common questions they would like to ask:

Assuming that CECA is here to stay:

1. Why do you think the Government (SG) is keen for CECA?

All things considered, exactly what is the net benefit for SG? e.g. increased economic/construction activities, stronger (IT) industrial base, etc?

2. What is the solution for unemployed PMET? Should ALL foreign company be regulated to employ at least 1 PMET?

3. Should dependents of ALL work/employment pass holders from any country pay a levy for enjoying the public facilities in SG (e.g. public transport, amenities, etc)? And if so, how much?

Although TRE have responded to these readers that most opposition parties do not engage socio-political sites because of the “cowboy” town image and their fear of being associated with sites of ill-repute, they would still like TRE to proceed anyway.

Interested opposition parties who would like to respond may submit their responses via our webform, email or by posting a follow-up in this thread.

That having said, since it is our belief that the opposition parties are unlikely to respond, why not learned readers discuss this among ourselves?

 

 

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44 Responses to “Opposition Parties’ Stand on CECA transfer & Unemployed PMET”

  • xoxo:

    I support.
    We want diverse opinions and not just PAPple’s craps.

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  • Sorry:

    No learned readers will want to entertain those three questions.
    Why?
    Q1 is a distraction. Who cares about the net benefits (to whom)?
    Q2 is such a miserable demand.
    Q3? What is that for? Pay $1 for use of public toilets?

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  • Most opposition parties are part-timers only, got erection they show face, no erection all hibernating, where got time to respond?

    The balance few oppos either too stuck up or clueless where they should stand. So with the exception of PSP (which has already made their stand clear), I don’t think the balance of them will know how to repond as they have no interest in the CECA.

    I read the questions posted and I agree with xoxo that much of it is irrelevant to the oppos, the correct party to address these questions to would be the incumbent.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Too late. FT already rule $G. Locals have no balls. They gave up the island for some fake promises and now must pay the price.

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  • nitrogen:

    TRE Techie:
    Most opposition parties are part-timers only, got erection they show face, no erection all hibernating, where got time to respond?

    The balance few oppos either too stuck up or clueless where they should stand. So with the exception of PSP (which has already made their stand clear), I don’t think the balance of them will know how to repond as they have no interest in the CECA.

    I read the questions posted and I agree with xoxo that much of it is irrelevant to the oppos, the correct party to address these questions to would be the incumbent.

    bro, a wee bit too negative about OPPO.

    1, everyone needs S$ to live. so OPPO is no different. they don’t get S$16k a month. so must work to live. that is why they are not full time on the ground. look at pap erected folks. they are paid S$16k a month. yet how many of these pap folks worth even 4 hours everyday? not too hard on OPPO. without them, we would be in a 100% dictatorship.

    2, pap is never sitting still. because pap has a lot of S$ coming from cotton sheep tax money cpf money and such, pap employs a lot of overpaid ampais on the ground. unless OPPO are all stupid, they cannot anyhow get themselves locked into pap lockups. it is foolish, no different from dying before shooting at the enemy. despite this, pap ever abusing S$ to thumb down OPPO, everyone with eyes can see OPPO is making headway. pap already lost 2 GRCs. and will lose 3 more in GE2024. that means, 100% confirmed, OPPO is making progress.

    we agree there are some bad hat OPPO. but, until pap dies, anyone not against us is for us. so, we must welcome anyone who fights pap, whether this someone is a good OPPO or a bad OPPO is immaterial. as long as this someone is against pap, it is someone we welcome gladly.

    for sure we are frustrated at the speed of pap dying. but we must also acknowledge that 100% of the fault lies with the voting hand of cotton sheep. if only cotton sheep gives OPPO a tick, pap dies, and a better government gets to rename parleeement back to Parliament.

    any OPPO, is a good OPPO. as long as it is against pap, it is a good thing.

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  • opposition dude:

    Come lah I give you PAP’s standard wayang reply on these points raised and you see if you agree with me or not. Unlike PAP I’m not so eloquent so the responses will be straightforward one hor.

    1. CECA sign the agreement LL have to let them in by the hundreds of thousands so no choice. We are stupid enough to even consider extending it so look forward to more of them and also more of Delta hor

    2. Unemployed PMETs can continue to drive for Grab and deliver makan, they always need people. MNCs cannot be forced to employ local PMETs or else all close down and siam from Singapore

    3. Cannot cannot. Dependents are let in because we want to see whole families here. Wait the father horny horny the mother not here then jialat. So all dependents must be freely let in because we are pro family

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  • Protect Aliens Party:

    TRE Techie:
    Most opposition parties are part-timers only, got erection they show face, no erection all hibernating, where got time to respond?

    The balance few oppos either too stuck up or clueless where they should stand. So with the exception of PSP (which has already made their stand clear), I don’t think the balance of them will know how to repond as they have no interest in the CECA.

    I read the questions posted and I agree with xoxo that much of it is irrelevant to the oppos, the correct party to address these questions to would be the incumbent.

    Aye-hey! Cannot liddat say about opposition parties leh. Actually PV’s Lim Tean has often been speaking up against CECA also. Just that he’s not elected into parliament so whatever he says in his FB and people won’t know.

    For SDP, me think now Dr Chee could be changing his strategy. He seems to be working towards helping residents /singaporeans first to win their trust so as to gain their votes. Only when he’s being voted into parliament then he can talk about anything and everything and make the PAP listens mah. Otherwise, like the tudung issue, he’ll kanna fined for speaking up.

    Heng, PSP kio tio 2 NCMP seats to be in parliament to kah cheow the PAP. With PSP persistently pursuing on the CECA issue, Ah Loong must now be cursing himself for not removing the NCMP seats.

    As for WP, think lah. All those people coming in through CECA (many of them are already sg citizens and can vote liao) live in which part of sg? And WP mostly contest in which part of sg? If I’m not wrong, WP doesn’t want to offend this group of voters. Native singaporeans affected by CECA will surely not vote for PAP one mah, so will vote for opposition. But the CECA new citizens might one day be in the same shoes as the native PMETs and so there’s a chance those affected will vote against the PAP. So what for WP talk about CECA in parliament?

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  • Real test:

    Real teat for CECA is on the ground.
    How many good jobs really created for the local PMETs…
    If not effective..should scrap it or do the necessary modifications.
    No need to justify.
    Need to take care of our Citizen first…

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  • New voters:

    Very insightful.
    We new voters form such a big proportion of voters (30% ?). Any party that want to get into Parliament MUST consider us. That’s why suddenly PM so nice to China and India. US can wait. New voters more important.

    Protect Aliens Party: As for WP, think lah. All those people coming in through CECA (many of them are already sg citizens and can vote liao) live in which part of sg? And WP mostly contest in which part of sg? If I’m not wrong, WP doesn’t want to offend this group of voters. Native singaporeans affected by CECA will surely not vote for PAP one mah, so will vote for opposition. But the CECA new citizens might one day be in the same shoes as the native PMETs and so there’s a chance those affected will vote against the PAP. So what for WP talk about CECA in parliament?

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Actually most of the Opposition Parties are against CECA, only that they are unable to bring it out in Parliament.

    The only other party which is in Parliament is the Worker Party. It is the party that we should ask. It seems Worker Party is very quiet on CECA, or maybe we have missed it.

    Just hope Worker Party supports PSP in their fight for the people of Singapore. That is all that we need!!

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  • Ceca or chacha:

    Show us a flow chart how ceca has created Jobs, good-paying Jobs for Sinkies!

    Better still publish the ceca Agreement so that Sinkies can read.

    After all Sinkies are all scholars ………..SCORING 1st in Science n Maths beating everyone worldwide!

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  • Prof Wei Shin YU:

    Hi Guys
    1. Agreements signed between countries have to be honoured no matter what. Or else SG loses international reputation/trust!
    2. Therefore opposition parties and Singkies can oppose it until the cows come home, the reality is that for the foreseeable future, you/we have to live with it!
    3. Instead of wasting time and energy cry father cry mother, are there “remedies” SG can think of within the CECA agreement?
    4. Hence, the purpose of this track is to invite Singkies, esp. the opposition parties to propose the remedies, constructively.
    5. However, to be fair, whatever “remedies” have to be applied to all other foreigners equitably.
    6. For a start, if the biggest issue is 100k PMETs lost their jobs. How about all foreign co. must employ 1 PMET (as office mgr, etc), and the bigger co. employs more?
    7. And if the next issue is too many dependent pass holders, crowding up MRT. playgrounds, etc. How about they pay a levy? After all, they contribute nothing to the economy but enjoy the public amenities?
    8. Next, is low office pay the problem, squeezing locals? If so,. …..

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  • Singaporean uprising:

    CECA has taken away Singaporean’s jobs and create too many social issues. CECA has also bring down Singapore’s overall standards. All opposition need to tackle the CECA issue. Best if we can abolish it asap.

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  • xoxo:

    Sg govt says need to import FTs as sgs dont have the requisite *skill sets*?

    So,likewise,sgs can tell the PM N MINISTERS,we need to get other alternative parties to replace PAP MPs and ministers as most of them do not have the skill sets,ya,

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  • Just leave it:

    It already turn rotten.

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  • nitrogen:

    we are supporters of PSP WP and any party as long as not pap.

    we say ceca is wrong. but as someone said above, ah agreement is an agreement.

    1, unless the parties to the agreement are stupid, surely, there is an escape clause in the agreement?

    2, more than this, 61% of citizens supported pap who inked the ceca agreement. now, 61% is a large percentage, very large, much larger than 41% or even 51%. in this light, isn’t it cotton sheep’s own fault if it is suffering under the very hands they put into power?

    in our mind, the ones who are suffering must put all blame on cotton sheep. after all, cotton sheep voted into power brainless pap folks who inked the ceca agreement. if only cotton sheep has voted PSP WP or any other party except pap, ceca agreement won’t exist.

    in deeper analysis, pap says its stroke heng was the mastermind behind the bad ceca agreement. yet, in GE2020, cotton sheep, 53.41% of East Coast folks voted pap stroke heng. honestly, if 33.41% voted for pap stroke heng, or even 43.41% voted for pap stroke heng, then, we change our mind from letting things be to supporting effort to removing cotton sheep suffering. but 53.41% voted for pap stroke heng, which means cotton sheep is saying, ceca agreement is ok.

    SO, let us just drop our fingers, meaning, lift not even one finger, to help cotton sheep suffering under ceca agreement. the cotton sheep, they themselves, ask for it. SO, we shall let them have it.

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  • Who cares quality, productivit:

    Apart from Singaporean PMETs being deprived of good jobs, other major negative impacts of CECA are bring down Singapore productivity and quality especially in construction, shipbuilding, IT and finance/banking. This has been ongoing for many years since about 2011/2012. Not to forget the social tension time bomb waiting to be ignited.

    In long term Singapore going to lose out to cities such as Shanghai where students are world no. 1 in PISA tests and speak better English than Singapore. No to mention they are most hard working alongside Japan, Korea, HK and Taiwan.

    Lastly mass import CECA talents does not solve the singles issues among Singaporean as most prefer same race.

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  • Problem is P Singh:

    His ego is already kept satisfisfied. Stomach is Full. Not compelled.

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  • Its an Insult to TCB:

    I recalled TCB ecer said, he knows PS and they will work together in parl.

    No face given to TCB ?

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  • Uselesstankl:

    With malaysian chinese as PREFFERED race,
    Via imports by thousands,

    Such sinkies will die a slow but painful death…

    Hoching, smrt Saw, Khaw boon wan, lim swee say, jo teo, killing you softly BUT SURELY !!!

    COMES PRC, INDIANS, FILIPINOS,ETC ETC

    sinkies will surely but die a painful death

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  • House of laughing hyenas:

    Real test:
    Real teat for CECA is on the ground.
    How many good jobs really created for the local PMETs…
    If not effective..should scrap it or do the necessary modifications.
    No need to justify.
    Need to take care of our Citizen first…

    Wrong! REAL TEST was already tested many times in the last 20 years. CECA how many years already? The People Have Spoken. Which part of that sentence does your England not understand? My point is, the problem is the People. Its bigger than the policy problems

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  • Ah Meng:

    Hope Singaporeans would not “CECA”chin chump….

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  • Ntuc member:

    CECA is a bilateral trade agreement benefits Singapore and India, a win-win agreement for both countries. Only opposition parties object for sake of object. Singapore opposition parties are childish! If you don’t allow India talents work here Singapore, how you expect India let our Singaporeans go work in India?

    Tech: Err… why would anyone want to work in India, their pay very high or their currency dearer than SG$?

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  • must also tua-pao sui sui:

    //CECA is a bilateral trade agreement benefits Singapore and India, a win-win agreement for both countries.//

    your head bo-ho-sei huh ? a small sinkie land country against a big country (population abt 1.4 billion and per capita income abt usd2,100/- from google lar ???) with many states and state governments which may change together with their state law – which can undercut sinkie land many times ??? want to tua-pao like the top white idiots, must also tua-pao sui sui lar ???

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  • leeconyou:

    ceca is only step one where ah neh come here for jobs, now is ceca+ where ah neh transfer all jobs back to indian! they have been exporting IT, Acct and Admin jobs back just try to call dbs or singtel and listen to their operators….. cant even understand their snake slang…

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  • Are All FTAs no time limit?:

    Who here understands FTA?
    What is the nature of FTA in terms of effective duration?

    Eternal?

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  • It's a joke like Pappyism:

    In America you cast your vote.
    In India you vote your caste.
    …. just laughing

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  • Vote for the Opposition:

    If you are not happy with the pap govt for what they are doing, VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITION IN THE NEXT ELECTIONS.

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  • Uniquely Singapore:

    In Singapore you vote for your favorite color.

    Is this unique to Singapore?

    On a serious note, most candidates from all parties are very unknown. If they wear normal clothing, nobody can recognise them. Dress a donkey in party color and it gets voted in.

    It's a joke like Pappyism:
    In America you cast your vote.
    In India you vote your caste.
    …. just laughing

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  • Tremendous:

    The manpower chief has gotten innovative.
    Recently, he announced that the village is looking
    for Indieland domestic workers.
    Don’t know if the village chief is still sotong but looks
    like they are trying to cover up things that have gone
    wrong in the agreement.
    Now there are too many Indieland PMETs. Later, after
    bringing in Indieland maids, they will say proportion of Indieland
    PMETs actually not so high. Idiot chiefs trying to play games.

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  • xoxo:

    In ParLEEmen today,sad to see the SPEAKER TEKAN MR LEONG OF PSP asking him if he support FTA and,specifically,CECA.
    CECA IS AN FTA SIGNED WITH INDIA.
    For MR LEONG to mention the HIGH NUMBER OF *INDIAN-FTs*,or call such FTs from India so,IS SURELY NOT A RACIST COMMENT.

    If FTs come from USA/Europe,we call them ANG MIH FTs,dont we,CANT we?

    Btw,how can SPEAKER show BIAS in parliament debate?
    This is WRONG!

    ANY ⁴ FIDE sg especially the INTELLECTUALS OF THIS NATION,should be able to note the SPEAKER’S PREJUDICE.
    SAD.

    THE SPEAKER OUGHT TO ASK THE PAP G TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND FURNISH AND LOW OPPO MPs to gain ACCESS to such NATIONAL STATISTICS as only that is FAIR BOTH TO THE PUBLIC TO FORM THE RIGHT OPINIONS AND FAIR FOR OPPO TO MAKE MORE INFORMED OPINIONS???

    IT IS THE G’S MONOPOLY AND UNWILLINGESS TO DISSEMINATE THE HONEST STATISTICS that .ake it quite impossible for OPPO MPs to offer THE RIGHT ANSWERS TO PAP MPs’ questions,isnt it?

    Mr Speaker prove that he is prejudiced by his questions to Mr Leong.
    Instead,SPEAKER SHUD ORDER MINISTER SHANMUGAM N PAP MPs to First furnish the ACTUAL DATA.

    YOU CALL THIS GENTLEMEN’S DEBATE?
    ANY FAIR PERSON CAN SEE THE TRUTH.

    THE SPEAKER IS TOTALLY UNFIT FOR PUBLIC DUTY.
    SMALL WONDER HE GOT DEMOTED FROM HIS MINISTERIAL POST.
    PM LEE was right to demote him.
    He shud just be a back-bencher at most.
    That way,he can ask stupid questions .

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  • Bobochacha:

    Thank God got covid to speed up our demise…thanks.

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  • xoxo:

    To me,to truly want and have GOOD N MEANINGFUL PARLIAMENT DEBATES,the grand scheme of things is to put into place access to THE REAL STATISTICS for the OPPO MPs.
    The advantage of monopoly of STATISTICS by the PAP G hinders good debates.
    Coupled with the hostility as demonstrated towards opposing views,parliament debates remain a WAYANG AND A WASTE OF TAXPAYER RESOURCES.

    THE SPEAKER MUST PLAY A NON-PARTISAN ROLE.
    TCJ IS NOT DISPLAYING SUCH A TRAIT.

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  • WP a disappointment:

    Disappointed that WP not taking a leading role in this CECA debate.
    A major concern for many Citizen, especially the many unemployed and underemployed PMETs…
    Still want to Elect more of them ?

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  • More data lah:

    Need more relevant data to have a meaningful debate…

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  • WP a disappointment:
    Disappointed that WP not taking a leading role in this CECA debate.
    A major concern for many Citizen, especially the many unemployed and underemployed PMETs…
    Still want to Elect more of them ?

    You expect team B to slap Team A or a co-driver to slap the driver? Dream on!

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  • Tremendous:

    Now the finance chief calls the oppo chief anti-foreign villager. Stretching the argument to the extreme again to fool other idiots in the village. Looking at numbers is lifeblood for finance and yet he cannot support with the numbers oppo chief asked for. Next chief from the village chief camp who opens the mouth will just be another idiot. Once a bunch of idiots, forever a bunch idiots.

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  • Ah Meng:

    I honestly don’t see racism or xenophobia in Mr.Leong’s comments on CECA. Actually,the White Garment knows fully well that there is no connection with racist,xenophobic undertones.The PSP is just concerned about CECA impacting the job prospects of local PMETs.To link Mr.Leong’s opinions to racism or xenophobia is simply a red herring.It also reeks of mischief.
    Just publish the figures of CECA-linked foreign employees and local employees in any particular entity.Explain the figures in parliamentary debates to assure us that we are not being displaced by foreign PMETs, CECA or not.

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  • Ab Ab:

    Pritam is right in saying many people are using the CECA with India as a “dogwhistle, masquerading racism for genuine economic concerns”.

    Population in Brief reports released by the govt every year show:
    Every year, there are more than 20k new citizens and 30k PRs. Every year, breakdown is like
    - 60% + from South East Asia (Malaysian Chinese would be the bulk of it)
    - 30 % from rest of Asia (which will include China, HK, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Middle East etc combined)
    - 5 to 10% is rest of world

    But motivated campaigns are giving false narratives that Indians form the bulk of new citizens / PRs. Please also note that to get citizenship / PR, you first have to be EP holder (and some higher level S Pass). So, these new citizens / PRs are also taking up good jobs. Part of the driver for this is the govt’s officially stated policy to maintain Singapore current racial balance at Chinese 75%, Malay 15%, Indian 7.5%. Since Chinese TFR is half of replacement level, they need to bring in hundreds of thousands of ethnic Chinese. My estimate is 1.5 million citizenship given to PRC / Malaysian Chinese since 1985, and the original true blue Singaporean Chinese is in the minority now. While 25 % of EP is from India which is high, China and Malaysia would also be having 15 % of EP each, so difference is not that much. In S Pass, India would be small, and bulk would be Malaysia / PRC.

    UN report says
    total foreigners in Singapore – 2.16 million
    Malaysia – 952,261 (44 %)
    PRC – 380,145 (18 %)
    Indonesia – 138,338 (6.4 %) (80k to 100k may be maids)
    India – 127,440 (5.9 %) (70k to 80k are construction workers)
    Pakistan – 110,160 (5.1 %)
    HK / Macau – 71,280 (3.3 %)
    Bangladesh – 69,120 (3.2 %) (vast majority construction workers)
    Others – 311,256 (14.4 %)

    (These do not include the people already granted citizenship eg 1.5 million citizenship given to PRC / Malaysian Chinese).

    These correspond to the 25 % of EP being Indians ie 43k, some S Pass and 70k construction. So no where near the hundreds of thousands false narrative being peddled. And is dwarfed by Malaysian / PRC immigrants.

    Malaysians / PRC are not maids or construction workers. Some Malaysians, maybe 100k doing low end jobs like sweeping roads. Rest are taking up good jobs of Singaporeans or wage kept terribly depressed. They take up mid-skilled jobs in industry / office / services which arguably are more accessible to average, ordinary Singaporeans (IT jobs require a certain aptitude and not suited for most).

    Hence I request fair minded Singaporeans not to fall for false narratives. We do have a staggering number of immigrants and we are getting very congested, and we have to raze forests to house them. Infrastructure problems, inflation, cost of buying HDB flats also going up so much etc.
    But nothing will have a material impact on ordinary Singaporeans lives unless we stem the biggest tides.

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  • Ab Ab:

    Pritam is right in saying many people are using the CECA with India as a “dogwhistle, masquerading racism for genuine economic concerns”.

    Population in Brief reports released by the govt every year show:
    Every year, there are more than 20k new citizens and 30k PRs. Every year, breakdown is like
    - more than 60% from South East Asia (Malaysian Chinese would be the bulk of it)
    - 30 % are from rest of Asia (which will include China, HK, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Middle East etc combined)
    - 10% is rest of world

    But motivated campaigns are giving false narratives that Indians form the bulk of new citizens / PRs. Please also note that to get citizenship / PR, you first have to be EP holder (and some higher level S Pass). So, these new citizens / PRs are also taking up good jobs. Part of the driver for this is the govt’s officially stated policy to maintain Singapore current racial balance at Chinese 75%, Malay 15%, Indian 7.5%. Since Chinese TFR is half of replacement level, they need to bring in hundreds of thousands of ethnic Chinese. My estimate is 1.5 million citizenship given to PRC / Malaysian Chinese since 1985, and the original true blue Singaporean Chinese is in the minority now. While 25 % of EP is from India which is high, China and Malaysia would also be having 15 % of EP each, so difference is not that much. In S Pass, India would be small, and bulk would be Malaysia / PRC.

    UN report says
    total foreigners in Singapore – 2.16 million
    Malaysia – 952,261 (44 %)
    PRC – 380,145 (18 %)
    Indonesia – 138,338 (6.4 %) (80k to 100k may be maids)
    India – 127,440 (5.9 %) (70k to 80k are construction workers)
    Pakistan – 110,160 (5.1 %)
    HK / Macau – 71,280 (3.3 %)
    Bangladesh – 69,120 (3.2 %) (vast majority construction workers)
    Others – 311,256 (14.4 %)

    (These do not include the people already granted citizenship eg 1.5 million citizenship given to PRC / Malaysian Chinese).

    These correspond to the 25 % of EP being Indians ie 43k, some S Pass and 70k construction. So no where near the hundreds of thousands false narrative being peddled. And is dwarfed by Malaysian / PRC immigrants.

    Malaysians / PRC are not maids or construction workers. Some Malaysians, maybe 100k doing low end jobs like sweeping roads. Rest are taking up good jobs of Singaporeans or wage kept terribly depressed. They take up mid-skilled jobs in industry / office / services which arguably are more accessible to average, ordinary Singaporeans (IT jobs require a certain aptitude and not suited for most).

    Hence I request fair minded Singaporeans not to fall for false narratives. We do have a staggering number of immigrants and we are getting very congested, and we have to raze forests to house them. Infrastructure problems, inflation, cost of buying HDB flats also going up so much etc.
    But nothing will have a material impact on ordinary Singaporeans lives unless we stem the biggest tides.

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  • This prick:

    Pricktam singh is a morphing psychic . He can’t see many graduates are sitting at home for years . This singh is getting ego into his head. U are to champion Singaporean problem and not feelie sleepie comfy with the selective group thinkers .. u are losing your marbles in not fighting for Singaporean concern .. but sold your a$$e to the biggest bidder .

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  • CECA create jobs?:

    CECA can create jobs meh?

    Jobs created by CECA for singaporean meh?

    CECA workers good, real degrees meh?

    CECA workers good productivity and quality meh?

    CECA FTs real talent meh?

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  • Perumal:

    Sun Tze Shanmugam, has made Low a pet.

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  • Rigged Election:

    nitrogen: bro, a wee bit too negative about OPPO.

    1, everyone needs S$ to live. so OPPO is no different. they don’t get S$16k a month. so must work to live. that is why they are not full time on the ground. look at pap erected folks. they are paid S$16k a month. yet how many of these pap folks worth even 4 hours everyday? not too hard on OPPO. without them, we would be in a 100% dictatorship.

    2, pap is never sitting still. because pap has a lot of S$ coming from cotton sheep tax money cpf money and such, pap employs a lot of overpaid ampais on the ground. unless OPPO are all stupid, they cannot anyhow get themselves locked into pap lockups. it is foolish, no different from dying before shooting at the enemy. despite this, pap ever abusing S$ to thumb down OPPO, everyone with eyes can see OPPO is making headway. pap already lost 2 GRCs. and will lose 3 more in GE2024. that means, 100% confirmed, OPPO is making progress.

    we agree there are some bad hat OPPO. but, until pap dies, anyone not against us is for us. so, we must welcome anyone who fights pap, whether this someone is a good OPPO or a bad OPPO is immaterial. as long as this someone is against pap, it is someone we welcome gladly.

    for sure we are frustrated at the speed of pap dying. but we must also acknowledge that 100% of the fault lies with the voting hand of cotton sheep. if only cotton sheep gives OPPO a tick, pap dies, and a better government gets to rename parleeement back to Parliament.

    any OPPO, is a good OPPO. as long as it is against pap, it is a good thing.

    If Trump can lost desite evidence of video and picture evidence and people forcefully follow the numbers because $$ is numbers and the real video and images does not matter. The numbers in USD, election count and SGD matters and ppl think to get money is to work. But ruling class get to create money by following the global boss Biden gang rules. Otherwise SGD just turned into Jap banana notes overnight where no country will accept. Most trades in SG are in USD. You are arguing with Money Lord who create money to rule the whole Earth and if you think fighting PAP means you can get a fair deal, you have not seen that SG is no different from the time before independent with rss zero island where nothing is valuable except money. If SG is created by money, it will be gone when money system collapse. It is not like Africa minings or Indonesia land pf mining rss or Malaysia with spices, fruits and many natural resources.

    The advantage as a port has been strategically removed by China building up more high tech port controlled by their own army and warehouses.

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