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Scientists keep getting Covid-19 predictions wrong

Remember what I have repeatedly said… We have to be honest on what we know and what we don’t know instead of assuming we know everything about this virus as well as the vaccines.

Remember what I have been saying?

On the matter of life and death, as policy makers, we will always take the more conservative safe side.

It took them this long to understand such fundamental principles.

PAP pretends to be making policy decisions based on science but their political agenda has superceded science and that’s extremely dangerous.

 

Goh Meng Seng

 

 

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24 Responses to “Scientists keep getting Covid-19 predictions wrong”

  • Mai Hum:

    What do you expect when one didn’t even know mee siam and bak chor mee has no hum and kaykiang adds hum?

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  • oxygen:

    THE POLITICAL COWS ARE CLUELESS and the regulatory corpses are even more confused. Leaving the uncertainty mess of AstraZenecca in Europe (of either going forward or withdraw its general use) Pfizer’s proposed booster jab (intended for general use) got this FDA’s recommendation panel’s rebuff.

    FDA panel recommends Pfizer’s COVID-19 booster for 65 and older, but not for the general public

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fda-committee-votes-against-approving-biontech-and-pfizers-covid-19-booster-11631908000?mod=home-page

    It is still UNCERTAIN IF FDA WILL COMPLY WITH THIS RESTRICTION or simply bypass it and risking young lives with mortality ending from myocarditis.

    NOTE FROM THIS MARKETWATCH WEBLINK SOURCE that the divisions among scientists within the FDA panel is VERY INTENSE THIS TIME.

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  • oxygen:

    @ GMS,

    Note that financial market investors are “NOT extremely impressed” with the balance sheet and income effects of this third “booster” jabs general use.

    They obviously thought for a month already that resistance to the third booster jabs or FDA panel will refuse recommendation or BOTH will prevail.

    Look at the share price charts of Pfizer, Moderna and BioNtech over the last month – ALL THREE ARE HEADING DOWN SOUTH.

    https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=PFE&insttype=Stock

    and

    https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=mrna&insttype=&freq=1&show=&time=8

    and

    https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=BNTX&insttype=Stock

    IF FDA panel had approved of its general use – EVEN IF ONLY FOR EMERGENCY TEMPORARY USE restriction – the share price of Pfizer, Moderna and BioNtech would have LONG gone through the roof already in anticipation.

    Instead the share prices are heading south already. The share market “correctly” reads and “discount” the likely negative response from science and public receptivity to this crazy frequent (open-ended) endless booster jabs of doubtful benefits but myocardities risks in the young.

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  • Exactly who knows ?:

    Exactly who knows.

    Every idea every R & D project every investment will be successful ? Warrent Buffet also make wrong decisions. China Evergrande also going bust ( i predict probably China gov will rescue it ). If Know, Investors today need to bang doors , cry father mother. How come GMS you never give heads up ?

    GMS you know going against TPL last time you will loose and loose big time ? If you know, why waste monies and time. Its much easier to assess the overall picture since you are in the political scene many years versus Covid 19 situation.

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  • oxygen:

    THIS WEBLINK BELOW illuminates the extent of MEDICAL NIHILISM prevailing in the Covid-19 world.

    Whether you believe it or not is up to each individual to decide.

    The Coming Genocide: Mass Extermination of Humanity, Part 1

    https://newswithviews.com/the-coming-genocide-mass-extermination-of-humanity-part-1/

    NOBEL-PRIZE WINNING SCIENTISTS got “shafted”?

    I personally find it MIND-BOGGLING!

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  • oxygen:

    WHERE IS THAT PROMISED “HERD IMMUNITY” from the saturated vaccination roll-out?

    NOT A SINGLE COUNTRY got that – not even A MIRAGE of that as the so-called vaccine’s (in actuality an awkward contraption of science invented in medical nihilism) much-acclaimed 95% or thereabout efficacy wanes with each sunset.

    The end result?

    COMMENT: Fully vaccinated? Great news. Now stay home

    https://sg.yahoo.com/finance/news/comment-fully-vaccinated-great-news-now-stay-home-070449176.html

    It is mirage if it is not a hoax from political cows’ invention.

    Soon vaccine passport will die the same death AS THE VIRUS MUTATES successively again.

    So will leisure travel across border so negligently arrogant of pursuit in some political circle (or shall I say political circus) fantasyland dreaming.

    Investors are buying airport shares and airline shares are in for some rude shocks of – start, stop, and crash, I believe.

    JUST WATCH AND SEE.

    With inflation ravaging, I see the FED is nervously pussyfooting about “tapering” of its bond-buying – worrying about the prospect of dire consequences if this bet gone wrong.

    BUT DEFINITELY MARKET VOLATILITY AHEAD and gold’s recent volatility as US equities market sliding off peak are ominious signs looming.

    SCARY!

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  • xoxo:

    Let this simple sg uncle put it this way.
    Can you fight the TSUNAMI when it wreaks havoc with *WAVES* AFTER *WAVES*?

    Covid n ITS VARIANTS IS JUST LIKE A FIERCE TSUNAMI.
    Both come from MOTHER NATURE.
    In last 25/30 years,the BIG CORPORATION$,together with Govts,pushed the GLOBALISATION OF LABOUR to such huge extent,far and wide,in search of MORE,MORE N MORE PROFIT$$$!
    THIS HAS CAUSED WIDE DISRUPTIONS TO HUMAN LIVES AS WELL AS WORKERS’ LIVELIHOODS TO BENEFIT MOSTLY THE RICH N POWERFUL themselves.

    Many ordinary people suffer SOCIO-ECONOMICALLY WHILST THE NUMBER N NET WORTHS OF BILLIONAIRE$ INCREASES.
    ALL THIS WHEN JOBLESSNESS IS RAMPANT?

    As GLOBALI$aTion opened FLOOD-GATES to *CHEAP LABOUR*,COVID N ITS VARIANTS ARW NOW STOPPING THESE CRAZY MOVEMENTS OF HUMANS THAT THE RICH N POWERFUL MANIPULATE TO THEIR GREAT ADVANTAGE.

    LET NATURE TAKES ITS COURSE.
    THIS PANDEMIC IS NATURE’S WAY OF *OWING DOWN* the crazy MASS MOVEMENTS IF HUMANS seen over past 25 years.

    See,WHY POLAR BEARS THRIVE IN THE POLES and not in SZECHUAN where PANDAS THRIVE?
    You need to *CREATE* FALSE/FAKE ENVIRONMENT FOR PANDAS TO THRIVE IN SG?
    So too,HUMANS ARE PUT IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD.
    PEOPLE IN THE WEST ARE WHITE.
    IN THE MIDDLE EAST,DARK BROWN.
    ELSEWHERE,BLACK OR YELLOW?

    WHY NOT JUST ONE COLOUR SUITS ALL?!

    JUST EMPLOY GLOBAL LOCKDOWNS AND LET COVID WAVES SUBSIDE.

    WHY MUST INSIST ON FLYING PEOPLE AROUND,even with vaccinations?

    Like i say,COVID WILL FIND ITS WAYS THROUGH DIFFERENT WAVES(VARIANTS) TILL IT SUBSIDE (WHEN IT IS SATISFIED)by itself.

    Dont FIGHT AGAINST MOTHER NATURE.
    DONT PLAY GOD; instead PRAY to GOD.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    E… Mike san perhaps is not wrong or at least not completely wrong.

    https://news.stcn.com/sd/202109/t20210918_3698532.html
    北京将扩大落户规模?官方最新发声,择机适度扩大!这些人群或将率先受益

    ….北京自2018年实施积分落户制度以来,每年都以约6000人的落户规模实行同分同落。….

    ….日前,有网友在人民网领导留言板中建议,扩大北京积分落户规模。

    该网友表示,自己在长期在北京居住并在北京工作十余年之久,孩子也在北京上学,因为需要养家不能离开在京的工作岗位,“因此需要市政府真切的为我们考虑户籍”。….

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  • Unknown factor:

    Too much unknown about the effect of Vaccine and Virus mutation.
    Too dangerous to make decision when so many still unknown….
    Too risky to involved so much life’s at stake.
    Many of the assumption is not quite right after all.
    For a start the Vaccine should be called a drug,,,have not been effective as a Vaccine.

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  • oxygen:

    PROFESSOR Ooi Eng Eong of Duke-NUS Medical School’s Programme in Emerging Infectious Diseases said this – virus has and will continue – to evolve and become better at surviving.

    I thought his analogy to that of key and lock illumination is BRILLIANT.

    Professor Ooi:
    But rarely do such genetic changes take place in isolation, and the many factors involved make it difficult to predict how mutations will occur, he said. In order for the virus to modify part of its genetic material to improve survival, it may have to change other, unexpected portions as well.
    Prof Ooi compared it to a key that is attempting to turn a lock – that is, human cells.

    Scientists can predict how the virus might modify its “key” so that the lock turns more smoothly.

    “But we can’t predict the other parts that will change in order for this to change, because it’s too complicated,” he said. “If anyone tries to predict (what will happen), we’re almost always going to be wrong, because our science is just not mature enough to let us do something like that

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/scientists-keep-getting-covid-19-predictions-wrong-heres-why

    But the most learned professor is INCOMPLETE of this brilliant illumination. That is to say – once you inserted the key, it is trapped (stuck) in the lock, so you either

    - break the key (vaccine innoculation) or

    - break the lock (the host of living human being).

    Breaking the lock kills the human host which defeats the purpose of the “key” which science have not yet discover the silver bullet cure.

    SO THE ACCELERATED SATURATED MASS INOCULATION HAS TRAPPED THE FULLY VACCINATED to endless “booster” jabs until fatality visits?

    So was that a mistake as Israel, and others in similar intensity of fully-vaccinated population, have found out too late – now thinking of 4th booster jabs having seen third booster jabs efficacy ineffective of protection cover?

    In times of dangers/crisis, CHOICE MUST BE MADE WITHIN CONSTRAINTS AND EVERY CHOICE WILL DELIMIT FUTURE CHOICE.

    The virus pandemic is exactly this.

    And in such poor options available, and as I keep repeating myself here – THE FIRST AND MOST OBVIOUS SOLUTION CHOICE IS AT LEAST 90% the WRONG CHOICE.

    OTHERWISE, THE CRISIS WOULD NOT HAVE ERUPTED in the first instance.

    I gets brickbats for arguing the case for vaccine hesitancy rush as being “anti-vaccine” mindset. THE DETRACTORS (of pro-vaccine fanatic mainly) got it ALL WRONG.

    BUT IT IS ALL TOO LATE NOW.

    Professor Ooi’s “key” is jammed and stuck (trapped) in the damaged lock.

    The “booster” jabs might be the last bet of life saving or mortality ending for those who rushed in (the proverbial) where the devils fear.

    A LOT IN SCIENCE WARNED US of risks – BUT FINALLY, IT IS TO EACH HIS/HER OWN CHOICE.

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  • oxygen:

    FOR ALL THEIR CUNNING OF CHICANERY, politics in crisis management and this pandemic disastrous handling, most political cows GLOBALLY are exactly that – AS STUPID AS COWS – literally.

    A very small but professionally-illuminated scientists and in the distinguishly-decorated medical profession bravely stands out – sacrificed their lives, family, career and life-long distinguished (some Nobel-prize winners) achievements to attempt at saving humanity. Their voices against MEDICAL NIHILISM was shouted down, censored and their career decimated.

    And as usual, a STAGGERING MAJORITY among the peasant class are TOO STUPID TO EVEN BEGIN TO DISCOVER THEY ARE STUPID BEYOND INFINITY – they are too weak and useless to inherit this sad planet, far to easily decimated by the next virus outbreak or elitists political chicanery working hard at enslaving them. This mob belongs to the majority of slavish followers LIVING A BLIND OBEDIENT EXISTENCE always – they will never survive a crisis or any crisis erupting in their lives.

    Big pharma are corrupt and cancerous – they infect the regulatory framework knowing that inside these MORAL CESSPOOL there are a lot of eager worms (WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS OF COURSE) ready to turn a blind eyes to truth protection and preservation of lives when given incentives of some career and/or monetary inducement.

    THE REST HAVE TO FEND FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY. Good luck to all.

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  • Realistically:

    >>Exactly who knows.<>Every idea every R & D project every investment will be successful ?<<

    The FACT is that Ho Ching was NOT and is NOT qualified nor competent to be Executive Director, let alone CEO of Temasek Holdings and neither has Lee Hsien Loong qualified and competent to be the Chairman of GIC. Ditto LKY and Tony Tan who was the Executive Deputy Chairman of GIC when LKY was the Chairman.

    So don't give any excuse……..for their epic failures and humongous losses running in the BILLIONS.

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  • Realistically:

    >>Exactly who knows.<<

    If the emperor without clothes regime does NOT know, then it should have based its policy on an "abundance of caution" basis, with the emphasis of both saving lives or whatever preventive measures which should be taken to minimise preventable deaths or sufferings; as well as for the interests of the economy, by sticking to FIRST PRINCIPLES, especially when the emperor without clothes regime – through its incompetent "expert panel" did not know enough of the SARS-COV -2 virus from the BEGINNING even as the PRC President Xi Jinping had warned of the virulent and mutational form of the virus when he addressed the PRC citizens following the unprecedented lock-down of Wuhan city. In contrast the emperor without clothes MMTF had believed that SINKaPOOR's experience with dealing with the 2003 SARS outbreak would be enough for the emperor without clothes regime to deal with what was later termed the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Even a non-'expert" like me could have done better………….as I had from the very beginning criticised the emperor without clothes handling which, as everyone knows, has been a monumental disaster.

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  • Kudos:

    As at 17 Sept 2021, there are 90 cases requiring Oxygen Supplementation and 14 in ICU. We used to be informed how many are double vax, single or non vax. Now they don’t dare to reveal. I suspect a surprising number are double vaxxed.

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  • Be careful lah:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fda-committee-votes-against-approving-biontech-and-pfizers-covid-19-booster-11631908000?mod=home-page

    Need to be more careful.Don’t play play with young people life.

    Do more thorough study with the datas…No need to rush blindly.

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  • Harder Truths:

    The FDA has only allowed booster to a limited number of higher – risk people (ostensibly to kill them off). But in $G is it a full steam ahead for boosters?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-advisors-meet-decide-booster-jabs-science-remains-uncertain

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  • Smart Natin:

    It’s too late for a total lockdown even if they want to. The last was 1004 cases reported, of which 78 are from the dorm which could potentially multiply in number due to close contact. And where do the remaining cases come from? A breakdown of the objective data – age groups, race, sex and locality by postal code may give people a better awareness of the situation.

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  • @Smart Natin

    “It’s too late for a total lockdown even if they want to.”

    I disagree.

    Wuhan has a population of over 10 million and they locked down the entire city and mass tested everyone to get rid of the virus. So Sinkieland could do the same, if the LEEders wanted to. There are so many benefits to mass testing the population, weeding out wanted criminals is one of them.

    Anyway, the way I see it, the situation in Sinkieland is now out of control and probably many thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands have been infected and are silent asymptomatic carriers.

    Picture this:
    1000 infected traveling on MRTs and Buses every day, common sense dictates that there would be massive spread. Take the lone traveler from Sinkieland back to Fujian in China as an example, just that single ONE Delta-infected carrier managed tp infect about 100 in less than a week!

    Simple back of toilet paper math:
    1 in China infect 100 in a week
    1000 in Sinkieland will infect 1000×100 = 100,000 in a week!

    So the MTF knows that if they were to implement a complete lockdown and mass test the entire population, those ‘caught’ infected would overwhelm the hospitals and there would also be no place to quarantine the milder but infected patients. My guess is that there are currently conservatively 5-digits infected silent carriers roaming the island and increasing by the day.

    Additionally, Sinkieland is not logistically prepared for a lockdown of this scale. The reason why China is successful in locking down cities is because their respective agencies work in tandem with each other, each competent in their own job. Also, the people are very united and they volunteer to be drivers, food delivery, etc etc etc.

    Just for discussion sake, how many ‘employees’ and members of the local PA, community centres will volunteer if asked to? Free schooling, free chicken rich and free abalone yes, ask them to risk infection, they willing meh?

    Are Sinkies united? My toes would be laughing to death if the answer is yes. Did you know that in China, people and businesses don’t care and don’t ask if one is vaccinated? The only exceptions being at the customs, air and seaports.

    I dare say even if the army and all the uniformed groups were to be deployed, they would be acting like headless chickens, not knowing what to do because whoever leading them would be as clueless as the clowns in the MTF.

    That having said, I think the MTF is now contended to just let the virus run its course (like Sweden?) and pray very hard that not many would be seriously injured or die from the C19. Maybe then, by some stroke of miracle, Sinkies may achieve herd immunity.

    Besides, I heard those with C19 go hospital must pay one, so more $$$ to be made, right?

    I stand corrected.

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  • Consistent Data:

    Kudos:
    As at 17 Sept 2021, there are 90 cases requiring Oxygen Supplementation and 14 in ICU. We used to be informed how many are double vax, single or non vax. Now they don’t dare to reveal. I suspect a surprising number are double vaxxed.

    Data seems to be consistent with other countries. Fully vaccinated seems to be the problem despite claim that they are less likely to have serious complication when infected with Covid.

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  • oxygen:

    JUST TWO DAYS AGO, I warned of this -

    oxygen: BUT DEFINITELY MARKET VOLATILITY AHEAD and gold’s recent volatility as US equities market sliding off peak are ominious signs looming.

    and now, what happened today?

    Dow futures skid 500 points as China property fears grow

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-futures-drop-300-points-as-china-property-fears-grow-11632121264?mod=home-page

    and this in Hong Kong

    Hong Kong stocks tumble on worries over Evergrande and property sector

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stocks-fall-in-hong-kong-most-other-asian-markets-closed-01632109430?mod=home-page

    and over in Down Under

    ASX bloodbath as iron ore price plummets

    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/asx-monday-iron-ore-074215493.html

    THAT THE BOND MARKET DIDN’T REACT last week when BOTH equities and gold fell in tandem (helped by a stronger dollar to some extent) tells of a “SHAKING” in the financial market today/this week is likely or overdue to erupt.

    IT DID.

    I guess if Covid Delta got worst from this point, the turbulence in financial market is going to get worst in the coming near weeks, particularly in the banking/property sectors.

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  • I am MIKE:

    How can i be correct when i did not live in Beijing or Shanghai?

    Lol.

    Just say i spread fake news and censored or ban me can liao lor.

    Censor speech is how China and SG control public opinions. Even US, Australia is doing it now.

    Ok, i give you TRE folks some bonus information.
    Oxygen-san might like this, complete reading it or download the PDF version as who knows it might get removed someday?

    These days many researchers don’t dare to say bad things about covid vaccines and they use SARs as a mask to present research on covid vaccines.

    Very techincal, but you can read the conclusion if no time.

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2021.640093/full

    Oh by the way, it came to my knowledge that plenty oldies in SG are being advised by their GPs to take up flu vaccines (pay $0) or LUNG vaccines (pay $16) if they are not going for Covid vaccines. First time i heard LUNG vaccines and after spending much time, i still cannot find much information on LUNG vaccines. Except that LUNG vaccines was strongly promoted in some Europe countries sometime mid-2019. LUNG vaccines requires 2 to 3rd doses.

    One thing caution, this also my FRIEND tell me one. Might be a FAKE news too. Lol.

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  • I am MIKE:

    Oh, to add on to the horror movie we are living in, we are all currently in the ADE era.

    80%, 90% vaccinated but still spreading more?
    1 jab, 2 jabs, and now 3rd jab, 4th akan datang and more to come?
    Waning effects of the antibodies?

    That is not Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (Effect), what do we call it?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-6gH7D2-nr4

    Jab jab jab… lol

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  • cannot link it to trains:

    //1000 infected traveling on MRTs and Buses every day, common sense dictates that there would be massive spread.//

    aiyoh. politikkally, cannot link it to trains and buses lar ?? somehow all the people taking trains and buses have special immunity because of the concept, no evidence of infected is found there lar (don’t look too hard of course no evidence leh ???) ???

    trains and buses are mass transport for the average peasants who need to travel around for fun and to work for the “merz” driving Tua-tau-k’s businesses lar ??? imagine, train lines and buses got to be stopped, how are the peasants going to commute (taxi every day ??) ????

    for the white idiots, it is a balance of “collateral” damage (infected, some seriously infected ???) and the economy with a lot of wayang in between that they are trying VERY hard to contain the CONVIT99 ???

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  • kaiju:

    Lancet scientists who trashed Covid leak theory ‘have links to Wuhan lab’
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16110791/lancet-scientists-links-wuhan-research-report-says/

    REVEALED: 26 out of the 27 Lancet scientists who trashed theory that Covid leaked from a Chinese lab have links to Wuhan researchers
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9980015/26-Lancet-scientists-trashed-theory-Covid-leaked-Chinese-lab-links-Wuhan.html

    Wuhan scientists planned to release coronavirus particles into cave bats, leaked papers reveal
    https://sg.news.yahoo.com/wuhan-scientists-planned-release-skin-145326380.html?guccounter=1

    Especially British zoologist Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance, knows Dr Shi Zhengli, chief of Wuhan Lab for long.

    Quote: “The United States submitted three US researchers for selection. … All three of them were rejected by China, which did ultimately have final say, since the WHO was coming into their country. … The only American who was permitted on the team was Peter Daszak,”

    It is proven that early stage (2020) of scientists who said the c19 comes from nature and not from lab were highly suspicious.

    Are the China apologists quieting about it?

    Before the c19 infected the world, the scientists and doctors were infected by politics.

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