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Remove the restrictions on the unvaccinated

There is considerable debate over the “fairness” of placing restrictions on the unvaccinated. They are not allowed to dine in restaurants or to visit malls.

The reasons for the restrictions are:

a) To protect the general community, as the unvaccinated have a higher chance of being infected and spreading the virus.

b) To reduce the demand on hospital services, as the unvaccinated are more likely to become severely sick and need hospital care.

c) To “encourage” the unvaccinated to take the vaccine for their protection.

Some of the unvaccinated have medical reasons to avoid the vaccine. The others have a belief that the vaccine is harmful to them.

They consider the restrictions to be unfair to them and infringe on their right of personal choice on being vaccinated.

I encourage people to be vaccinated, as I believe that the vaccine provides protection against covid and the risk of adverse effects is low.

However, I wish to support the call to remove the restrictions placed on the unvaccinated.

Here are my reasons:

a) The evidence is quite clear that the vaccinated can also spread the virus. It is not clear if the spread is lower for the vaccinated, but some reports suggest that the spread is similar between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

b) The vaccinated have a high degree of protection from the virus. If they are infected, the infection is likely to be mild.

c) The unvaccinated bears the higher risk of falling severely sick from the infection. However, it is their personal choice. When this happens, more will opt to be vaccinated.

d) We have already achieved a high vaccination rate of 80% in the population.

The virus is now very widespread and endemic. The experts project that everyone will become infected in the near future.

If this is the case, there is no need to place restrictions on the unvaccinated.

It can also be argued that the unvaccinated can be infected at home as well, even if they are not allowed to visit restaurants and malls.

It appears that the restrictions on the unvaccinated are not helpful in reducing the spread of the virus.

There is still the risk that a higher number of severely ill covid patients will overwhelm the hospital system.

I will address this issue in a separate post.

Conclusion.
It is unnecessary to place restrictions on the unvaccinated people. There is no need to impose restrictions on their visits to restaurants and shopping malls.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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16 Responses to “Remove the restrictions on the unvaccinated”

  • cybersecurity:

    Dear Mr Tan
    You are a statistician (certified actuarist), surely you believe in hypotheses, let me give you an example.
    if I take a sample of 100 people ( 80% is vaccinated).So if 10 people gotten the virus, (all other variables assume constant), and suppose 2 vaccinated persons die and the remaining unvaccinated persons die.
    Do not you believe that if you do a hypothesis test using this sample(better, use central limit theorem-use 20 samples for example) to predict the population,would you not be able to accept the null hypothesis (say vaccinated persons are less likely to die from the virus. Maybe you want to sample only the elderly, is up to you to stratify.
    Show us your hypothesis tests result. Why think or guess?
    Use data analytics and Machine Learning (hype words based on statistical theory).
    Good Luck

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  • nathan chen:

    I am not PAP naive. The PAP and their retarded backers will tighten the screw further on the unvaccinated. How? By making it illegal for the unvaccinated to eat in public except at home. Pro-PAP coffee-shop towkays and the ignorant coffee-shop workers will refuse to serve the unvaccinated. Takeaways will be refused to the unvaccinated. Coffee shops are private entrepreneurs. It’s the legitimate rights of the owners to serve or not to serve any customers. The unvaccinated are trouble-makers. They drive away others paying customers, who are afraid the unvaccinated will spread the C19 to others in the vicinity.

    The PAP will bear grudges against the unvaccinated for ages to come. The ban will remain for years, even when it’s no longer necessary, unless some interest group is willing to mount a legal challenge on this senseless PAP discrimination against its helpless citizens.

    Singapore is bereft of conscionable professional bodies. Law, Medical, social, academia, religion, and opposition political parties.

    The country and people have been stripped soulless by the PAP for a very long time. Many are PAP naive. Some are genuine. Some are pretending, mostly those in politics. Some are playing politics just for the sake of playing, because there are nothing else better for them to do.

    Tech: This is the time where the various oppos should be making some noise and making their party stand clear, but unfortunately the co-driver and other major parties are keeping mum. I wonder why?

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  • I disagree with Mr Tan and I think the policies should remain. It would be even better if the LEEders make arrangement for all the unvaxxed to be moved to St John’s Island or Tekong until the pandemic is over.

    MULTIPLE studies have shown that the vaxxed are “super spreaders” and carries very high viral load which could easily infect others.

    As such, contacts with those vaxxed should be avoided at all costs, don’t even touch them with a 10 foot pole!

    So the latest policy is really for the unvaxxed own good, no?

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  • Vaccinated already:

    Better to have a pause and have an independent body to review the present situation.
    Why is the cases so high ?Where are the sources of high infection.
    Is the action effective or appropriate ,especially the severe restriction placed on the unvaccinated ?

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  • MarBowling:

    TRE Techie:
    October 15, 2021 at 2:15 am (Quote)
    I disagree with Mr Tan and I think the policies should remain. It would be even better if the LEEders make arrangement for all the unvaxxed to be moved to St John’s Island or Tekong until the pandemic is over.

    MULTIPLE studies have shown that the vaxxed are “super spreaders” and carries very high viral load which could easily infect others.

    As such, contacts with those vaxxed should be avoided at all costs, don’t even touch them with a 10 foot pole!

    So the latest policy is really for the unvaxxed own good, no?

    Response: well said. Now, whenever you need to visit any Polyclinic or Hospital, the 1st Holee REMARK WHEN the Doctor OEPNS HIS OR HER MOUTH WHILE LOOKING AT THE COMPUTER SCREEN: “YOU HAVE NOT BEEN VACCINATED”! So based on this Holee Fact, the WORLD CLASS MINISTERIAL TRASH FORCE OF THE 3 STOOGES ARE ABLE TO KNOW BY NOW THAT IN ANY HOUSEHOLD IN SINKAPORE, WHO IS VACCINATED AND WHO IS UNVACCINATED! So the Big Q is WHY IN A SHOPPING MALL, etc, THE VACCINATED AND THE UNVACCINATED MUST BE SEGREGATED AT ALL COSTS, AND NOT AT HOME? With about 15% of the population STILL NOT Vaccinated, that means if we FOLLOW AND APPLY THE SAME HOLEE RULE OF SEGREGATION IN SHOPPING MALL, WHEN in a FamiLEE of 5 with 1 still UNVACCINATED, this LOONG oops LONE RANGER has to SQUAT, SLEEP, SHIT OR DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE HOUSE or ANYWHERE EXCEPT INSIDE THE HOUSE!

    Holee shit! Hat off and salute the MF, JLB and BirdBrain Bugger who has come out with this draconian idea to SEGREGATE THE VACCINATED AND UNVACCINATED! HEAVEN HAS EYES. KARMA AND RETRIBUTION WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH UP WITH THIS JOKER AND THE FAMILEE. MAN PROPOSES GOD DISPOSES!

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  • PAP STUBBORNESS:

    THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE GAGMT ARE RELUCTANT TO APPROVE OFFICIALLY THE OLD TRADITIONAL METHOD OF INACTIVATED DEAD VIRUS VACCINES BUT WANT SINGAPOREANS TO GO FOR PFZER OR MODERNA nRMA method which have by now proven not effective in lowering cases of infections rather the vacinnated now can be a spreaders as well.
    I strongly believe if SINOPHARM IS OFFICIALLY APPROVED AND GIVEN FREE , MANY OLD AND YOUNG WOULD RATHER GO FOR IT…..
    THIS WOULD SOLVE MANY PROBLEMS AS RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE WAIVED OFF AS MORE GET VACINNATED.
    WHY WAIT WHEN MANY COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD ARE USING THIS VACCINE FOR MTHS WITH NO COMPLAINT OF SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS LIKE PFZER OR MODERNA.
    THIS SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS OF PFZER OR MODETNA ,ARE NOT SOMETHING TO BE TRIVIAL AS IT AFFECT THE PERSON FUTURE LIFE AND CAN HANDICAP THOSE AFFECTED BY SIDE EFFECTS.
    IF THE HEARTS, BRAINS, NERVOUS SYSTEMS ARE AFFECTED,THE PERSON SUFFER FOR LIFE AND HIS/HER WORK LIFES SERIOUSLY IMPACTED…IN OTHER WORD HIS/HER LIVELIHOODS
    CAN BE RUINED,AND IF THEY ARE UNFORTUNATE THEY HAVE TO RELY ON OTHERS AT TIMES FOR MOBILITY.
    THE FACT GAGMT HAVE VESTED INTEREST IN PFZER BECAUSE HAVE SHARES, SHOULD NOT EXCLUDE THE FREE USE OF OTHER TRADITIONAL METHOD OF VACCINES FOR CITIZENS.

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  • Eddie:

    When the pandemic started; vaccination was made voluntary, but suddenly in recent times imposition of restrictions came about without prior warning! This is truly unfair when “suddenly” there is differentiation of vax & unvax!?

    But surprisingly when it comes to making money from citizens’ pockets, whether vax or unvax there is no restrictions nor differentiation for those in Toto/4D booths????

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  • illiterate pap voters:

    Vaccinated already:
    Better to have a pause and have an independent body to review the present situation.
    Why is the cases so high ?Where are the sources of high infection.
    Is the action effective or appropriate ,especially the severe restriction placed on the unvaccinated ?

    Yes, agree.

    There must be a pause now. Followed by a review.

    Because although virus has been around since end 2019, the number of deaths doubled in just 2 weeks under pap ONG ye kung.

    Without pap ONG ye kung, there was still death but on a daily basis the number still shows pap GAN kim yong was doing a little better.

    1, pap ONG ye kung must go. Aljunied voters knew so long ago we wonder why he is still around causing so many deaths.

    2, pap must bite the bullet and let WP Ms Sylvia Lim be the prime minister. Ms Lim would be able to solve the problem quickly, at least in dismissing pap ONG ye kung and pap useless folks immediately.

    3, Under WP Ms Sylvia Lim as primer minister, Dr Jamus Lim would immediately be appointed Transport Minister and stop all the current virus spread rampantly happening in buses mrt trains.

    4, Under PSP Mr Leong Mun Wai as Foreign Minister, he shall immediately cancel the ceca ah neh FTA so that zero virus can come into the small island.

    5, Under capable PSP folks and capable WP folks appointed by WP Ms Sylvia Lim as the prime minister, everyone shall see results within 3 months of her being in power. After all, no human with capability can be held back for long and no human without capability can BS for too long.

    BTW the young dying now is senseless and must be stopped immediately. On the other hand those above 60 and perennial pap voters can all die off quickly since they have harmed the small island by voting pap.

    Tech: With all due respect to the team in WP, NONE of them has the capability and international standing to be the head of Sinkieland. If I have to choose, I would choose Mr Shanmugam or Mr Tharman. As for the 3 potential seat-warmers, they won’t even qualify to head a village in China. lol

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  • Relax:

    Let govt have an experiment to see how vaxed doing without unvax going into malls. Wait for the data and see what kind of excuses again.

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  • no way to rule innocent men:

    “There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”

    ― Ayn Rand

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  • living with virus:

    I thought government ask everyone to live with virus! Not now ban unvaccinated enter malls? Why now don’t subside second batch Sinovac?

    Why now at the worst situation you open up travel to high risk countries!

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  • Why Infections so High:

    Because government control of delta high risk countries is severely inadequate.

    Stop all flights from India and Nepal. Discuss and debate later if this is right or wrong.

    Tech: Too late, the Trojan Horse is already in the city.

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  • Fire:

    Da Da Da da !

    COVID-19 infections are decreasing in Hong Kong, with 3 new infections reported on average each day. That’s 3% of the peak — the highest daily average reported on July 30.

    There have been 12,277 infections and 213 coronavirus-related deaths reported in the country since the pandemic began.

    Tech: No worry, Sinkieland will overtake them within days.

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  • The unvaxxed weren’t wrong, natural immunity is the way to go because those “Fully Vaccinated With Pfizer 6 to 13 Times More Likely to Get Delta”.

    http://www.tremeritus.net/2021/09/01/fully-vaccinated-with-pfizer-6-to-13-times-more-likely-to-get-delta/

    As of 14 October 2021, 12pm, the Ministry of Health has detected a total of 2,932 new cases of COVID-19 infection in Singapore, comprising 2,412 community cases, 517 dormitory residents cases and 3 imported cases. Amongst the local cases today are 436 seniors who are above 60 years.

    How come they always forget to mention that there were 170 infected that were those below 12 years old?

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  • Smart Nation:

    Children under 12 who are unvaccinated are allowed to dine-in and travel with their parents. They would be the next vulnerable group. If the Delta infection leaves behind long-term side effects, those infected children will have their parents to blame for buying into the “travel lane” idea. They are desperately wanting to get their aircrafts and Changi Jewel “flying” again. You don’t want to become another statistic In this “endemic” or “stabilization phase.”

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  • oxygen:

    @ living with virus

    PAPpypolitics is always 1% truth, 99% lies, fantasy and propaganda.

    living with virus: I thought government ask everyone to live with virus! Not now ban unvaccinated enter malls? Why now don’t subside second batch Sinovac?

    Why now at the worst situation you open up travel to high risk countries!

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