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Adverse reactions from vaccines are rare?

Adverse reactions are rare, they say. Well, since the vaccine roll-outs, these are some of the things that have happened to athletes.

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  • 33 year old pro dancer Santo Giuliano suffers heart attack 5 days after vaccine
  • 32 year old Olympic Tennis player Joachim Gerard collapses during match with heart problems
  • 19 year old Football player Jalen Leavey dies at campus after the game
  • 23 year old Baseball player Daniel Brito suffers stroke during game
  • 19 year old Football player Tirrell Williams dies following on-field collapse
  • 21 year old Football player Okafor Kelechi dies during training
  • 29 year old Football player Lee Moses dies during training session
  • 15 year old Footballer Stephen Sylvester collapsed and dies during conditioning practice
  • 18 year old Football player Emmanual Antwi dies after collapsing on the field
  • 13 year old Football player Cajetan Chinoyelum Nsofor dies during practice
  • 15 year old Soccer player Moira Claire Arney died during practice
  • Junior High School Baseball Pitcher Andrew Roseman died suddenly and unexpectedly, no further information given
  • 17 year old Footballer Nickolas Lawrinas died suddenly and unexpectedly, cause given by media, unclear
  • 17 year old Footballer Miquel Lugo collapsed and died during practice
  • 16 year old Football player Devon DuHart mysteriously died in July 2021
  • 16 year old Footballer Ivan Hicks dies of Cardiovascular Disease during Scrimmage
  • 19 year old Footballer Joe Bradshaw dies mysteriously off campus, not conclusion of death
  • 16 year old Football player Drake Geiger collapses and dies during game
  • 15 year old Football player Joshua Ivory collapses and dies during game
  • 19 year old Football player Quandarius Wilburn collapses during practice and later dies
  • 17 year old Football player Dimitri McKee passes out and dies after practice
  • 28 year old Rugby player Tevita Bryce collapses during game from heart attack
  • 29 year old Rugby player Dave Hyde collapses and dies after match
  • 27 year old Baseball player Yusuke Kinoshita collapses and dies during practice
  • 32 year old Champion Speed Skater Kjeld Nuis suffered Pericarditis after the vaccine
  • 24 year old Olympic Cyclist Olivia Podmore dies suddenly and mysteriously in her room and during that week another athlete sprinter Cameron Burell also dies mysteriously
  • 23 year old China Olympics Champion Gilbert Kwemoi collapsed in his home and died on the way to hospital
  • 37-year-old former French professional footballer Franck Berrier dead
  • Germany goalkeeping coach of SV Niederpöring suffers heart attack
  • 24 years Bordeaux pro Samuel Kalu suffers cardiac arrest
  • 25 years old Belgian soccer player Jente Van Genechten suffers cardiac arrest
  • 31 years old Fabrice N’Sakala Besiktas Istanbul collapses on the field
  • 29 years old Pedro Obiang Italian first division after vaccination has myocarditis
  • 30 year old Venezuelan National Marathon Champion Alexaida Guedez dead
  • 29 years old José dos Reis (Luxembourg) collapses on the field and has to be resuscitated
  • Germany C-League Dillenburg a player from Hirzenhain collapses, the game is canceled
  • 16 years old Diego Ferchaud from ASPTT Caen suffers a cardiac arrest
  • Austria player of ASV Baden collapses on the field and has to be revived
  • 16-year-old unnamed football player in Bergamo suffers cardiac arrest
  • 27 years old Belgian amateur soccer player Jens De Smet dead
  • 13-year-old soccer player from the Janus Nova club collapses on the field with cardiac arrest
  • 17 year old soccer player Dylan Rich dies of a double heart attack during a game
  • Player from Birati Club Münster suffers cardiac arrest
  • 24 years old Lucas Surek from BFC Chemie Leipzig suffers from myocarditis
  • 49 years old Ain / France: Frédéric Lartillot succumbs to a heart attack in locker room
  • 45 years old Andrea Astolfi, sporting director of Calcio Orsago dead with no previous illness
  • 22 years old Abou Ali collapses with cardiac arrest during a two-tier game in Denmark
  • 19 years old ice hockey player Sebastiaan Bos dead. Passed away suddenly and unexpectedly
  • 40 years old A half marathon runner collapsed during the race and died a little later
  • Germany Anil Usta from VfB Schwelm breaks on the field with heart problems
  • 33 years old Dimitri Liénard from FC Strasbourg collapses with heart problems
  • 37 years old Ex-NFL professional Parys Haralson dies suddenly and unexpectedly
  • 25 years old Kingsley Coman from FC Bayern Munich, operation on the heart after an arrhythmia
  • 25 years old Canadian university football player Francis Perron dead shortly after a match
  • 19 year old FC Nantes soccer player suffers cardiac arrest during training
  • Germany volleyball trainer Dirk Splisteser from SG Traktor Divitz collapses dead on the sidelines
  • Austria, 64 years old former goalkeeper Ernst Scherr dead suddenly and unexpectedly
  • Germany, 42 years old Alexander Siegfried dead suddenly and unexpectedly
  • A 17-year-old athlete from Colverde collapses while training with cardiac arrest
  • France, 49 years oldSC Massay player dead of heart attack during the game
  • Mexico, Caddy Alberto Olguin collapses on the golf course after a heart attack
  • 29 years old Shrewsbury striker Ryan Bowman treated with defibrillator during play with extreme heart problems
  • Italy, 18 year old soccer player suddenly faints on the field
  • France, 40 years old A Saint-James player suffers a heart attack after warming up
  • Italy, 59 years old long-distance runner from Biella dies of heart failure during a race
  • Germany, Women’s League match, a player collapses shortly before the end without any opposing influence
  • 25 years German goalkeeper Lukas Bommer dies suddenly and unexpectedly
  • Mexico, 16 years old student Hector Manuel Mendoza dies of a heart attack while training
  • Brazil, 18 years old pro footballer Fellipe de Jesus Moreira has double heart attack and is fighting for his life
  • Italy, 27 years old cycling champion Gianni Moscon has to undergo an operation because of severe cardiac arrhythmias
  • Augsburg referee of a Kreisliga Augsburg game in Emersacker collapses with heart problems
  • English lineswoman Helen Byrne, heart problems has to be carried off the pitch at world cup
  • Germany Game abandoned due to cardiac arrest of the referee in a game of Lauber SV
  • Italy, 20 years old young rider suffers a heart attack
  • 17-year-old soccer player of the JSG High Hagen has revived during game
  • 53-year-old football coach Antonello Campus dead16 years old collapses while playing soccer and dies a little later
  • Germany Team leader Dietmar Gladow suffers a fatal heart attack before the game
  • USA a high school football player collapsed during practice and died in the hospital
  • Germany player collapsed during the A 2 regional league game suffered cardiac arrest
  • Germany 15 years old goalkeeper Bruno Stein dead
  • Italy, 53 years old AH footballer suffers a heart attack while training
  • USA, 14-year-old soccer player Ava Azzopardi collapsed on pitch, is fighting for her life in an artificial coma
  • France, 54 years old AH player Christophe Ramassamy died of a heart attack during a match
  • France, 41 years old soccer player collapsed on the field and died due to cardiac arrest
  • Austria, 26 years old Raphael Dwamena collapsed with severe heart problems
  • Germany, Hertha BSC co-trainer Selim Levent dies suddenly and unexpectedly
  • USA, 12 year old Jayson Kidd collapsed during basketball practice and later died
  • Spain, 33-year-old striker Kun Agüero had to be replaced in a game due to heart problems
  • USA 21 year old Senior student athlete John Stokes suffers with Myocarditis
  • 22 year old Cyclist Greg Luyssen forced to end his career after vaccine due to heart problems
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38 Responses to “Adverse reactions from vaccines are rare?”

  • xoxo:

    Rare becos they have not kena shit themselves yet?
    Dont worry,COVID WILL VISIT OYK SOON.
    THEM,IT WONT BE RARE ANYMORE?

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  • Mati-ministry Terror Force:

    In the near future, sg would be left with no healthy boys to serve NS and no fit man to protect our country liao. Sg population already at a low, still wanna ‘kill’ our young.

    Vaccinate lah! Vaccinate some more! Digging your own grave! Just wait for those days to come, cry mother cry father, cry heaven cry hell, too late liao!

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  • False Alarms:

    2.2 million false positives. Are gov/drug companies intentionally creating false alarms? To justify vaccine mandates?

    From news:

    The US Food and Drug Administration has issued “the most serious type of recall” for popular home testing kits that show if one is infected with coronavirus. At least 2.2 million products may have been showing false positives.

    Some 2,212,335 kits produced by the Australian-based biotech company Ellume and distributed in the US potentially show false positive SARS-CoV-2 test results, the public health agency said in a statement on Thursday.
    Read more
    Drastic drop in Covid vaccine effectiveness – study Drastic drop in Covid vaccine effectiveness – study

    The FDA warned that the use of faulty kits “may cause serious adverse health consequences or death,” identifying the case as a ‘Class I recall.’

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  • Rarer than lottery strikes:

    Several billions of jabs have been administered worldwide, and you only managed to cite these as evidence that the vaccines are dangerous?

    Mathematically, the number of adverse incidents of jabbing the vaccines is indeed rare, rarer than lottery strikes!

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  • Harder Truths:

    Must be a coincidence. The Regime will not lie about such things , would they? They seem so upstanding. Wholesome. Adored. Multi-million $$$ salary. Surely they are telling us the truth right?

    Or…are they really lying and does this mean the vaccinated are going to drop dead like flies spayed with Baygon? Or will they become zombies? Or worse, turn into your mother-in-law?

    Can Cancerman save us? Or has he one foot in the coffin? Or has he been replaced and left to rot at home like what he did to his old man? Which 4G is really the leeder now? Or are they still fighting for the carcass of this island?

    How long before we are ordered to eat the ‘vaccine’ like kachang everyday?

    What do you think?

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  • MarBowling:

    According to Dr Foul-Ci(Bye) and by extension our Expert Committee, THE BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE RISKS!

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  • More deadly variants in tow?:

    More deadly variants in tow?
    More sleazy vax in the pipeline?
    It’s a 1-4-1 matching game?
    Or simply mismatching?

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  • #06-195 Babanana:

    All sportsmen. The advisory did say not to play sports for two weeks after jab.

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  • Billy ma:

    PAP like the rest of the world used numbers to defend themselves.

    Statistics like only 0.001 of 100,000…

    It might never occurred or even bother PAP that a 0.00001% is 100% to the loved ones of the deceased. It’s 100%, not 0.0001 or whatever.

    Coupled with the secrecy & non transparency of clear information by PAP, can you blame people from being suspicious & be more cautious.

    It’s not a crime to be extra extra careful.
    But PAP is making it a big crime to think so.

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  • Fire:

    If it is more transparent

    singalean Will get Smarter .

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  • Tehsi:

    For local cases, pls access link :

    https://t.me/SGVaxInjury

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  • This is indeed news to me, but are the claims true?

    To be sure, I think we need look no further than those poor NS chaps in the combat camps. Do you know of any incident of anyone seriously injured or dropping dead after the CONpulsory vaccination?

    Oops! Its MINDEF, so national security issue, cannot be reported at all and even if it does get reported, it will be “not related to the vaccine”, I am sure.

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  • opposition dude:

    There will be some adverse reactions to the various vaccines but the more important thing is that these instances aren’t happening with alarming regularity. Fora simple example just look at your own parents or even neighbours/colleagues/friends that have been fully vaccinated. Have the vast majority of them died?

    And the other point that we have missed is just how good are China’s vaccines? It has been deployed in Indonesia and a few South American countries so no news means good news? Can we assume that non mRNA vaccines are better than mRNA ones since they are using traditional methods which are tried and tested?

    No one knows if there will be any effects from these vaccines years down the road, we don’t have the luxury of time travel nor anyone from the future coming back in time to inform us too, it’s basically a wait and see. Like others have said, if this decision is the wrong one humans could well be extinct within a century. Or maybe not because by then drug companies might have something to counter the harmful effects of the vaccine.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    More to come. Many Nordic countries such as Norway, Finland, Sweden and even Japan have also QUIETLY put their (mRNA) jabs on hold.

    Of course, PAPies and their Cronies will NOT allow our MSM to publish these actions of increasingly more and more countries, since it will make them “Lose Face” and also compel them to do “U-Turn” policy, yes? LOL.

    I’m also waiting patiently to see how PAPies will wriggle their way out of this mess with additional nonsensical pronouncements. LOL.
    You see, PAPies are STUCK in dilemma now.

    A) If they jab kids and anything happens (like that Sinkie teenager kenna heart attack) then they habis, and they CANNOT sweep it under the rug with motherhood statements of all have “underlying medical conditions”, yeah? LOL.

    B) Then, alternatively, IF they do NOT jab Sinkie kids, it means they CAN NEVER reach 100% status for Sinkiepore, yes?
    LPPL and so PAPies will LOSE, no matter which scenario happens.
    They had checkmate themselves with their own STUPID nonsensical moves. LOL.

    That’s why I tell those remaining Sinkies (15% +/- who still have “Clean Natural Blood”) to relax and just watch the show lor. If they impose new draconian rules on those 15%, then it also means it has to apply to all those <12 years old kids (which will make many Sinkie parents very angry, yes?) LOL.

    So, they may have to make LOTS of illogical rules to twist & turn and "roti-prata" until the PAPies themselves also confused, and no one will follow those rules because everyone give up. LOL.

    Anyway, mark my words, I PREDICT that PAPies will NOT have the Balls to go ahead to MANDATE jab on Sinkies kids below 12 years old.

    They will probably announce that its entirely "voluntary" (according to PAPies powerful new English dictionary. LOL) and then come up with NEW STUPID rules such as un-jabbed kids must join "normal" stream classes, or cannot play sports with other kids etc., so that all the "kiasu" parents will automatically drag their kids to go jab-jab-jab.

    Then, if any S**T happens to your kids, PAPies can claim later in NEWS headlines to say : "See hor… we never FORCE parents leh… its the parents themselves who decided for their kids mah" LOL.

    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4340862

    Good Luck to Sinkies children.

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  • @Spineless Sinkie Syndrome

    Beautifully said, you could be writing a book on PAP 101. lol

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  • True Blue Singaporean:

    61% voted for, but 85 % fully vaccinated. is that a swing of 24 % in favor of govt?

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  • God Have Eyes:

    Dr Sohrab Lutchmedial: 52-year-old Canadian cardiologist tells the non-vaxxed “I won’t cry at your funeral,” dead two weeks after third (booster) mRNA injection

    https://thecovidblog.com/2021/11/09/sohrab-lutchmedial-52-year-old-canadian-cardiologist-tells-the-non-vaxxed-i-wont-cry-at-your-funeral-dead-two-weeks-after-third-booster-mrna-injection/

    Who will cry at his own funeral? The VAX or the non-Vax? Probably the non-Vax, tears of joy,finally there is a very good example that the vaccine is more dangerous that covid.

    Will the MSM report such news if it happen in Singapore? Hopefully one of the minister.

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  • Shortness of Breath:

    #06-195 Babanana:
    All sportsmen. The advisory did say not to play sports for two weeks after jab.

    My second jab was on September 17. Did not do strenuous exercise for the first 2 weeks after the second jab. However, now I feeling pain in the chest at rest and have shortness of breath when doing my routine exercises like pull-up and sit-up. I am getting worried after seeing sports people having heart attacks.

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  • Biden Farted Loong And Loud:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: Anyway, mark my words, I PREDICT that PAPies will NOT have the Balls to go ahead to MANDATE jab on Sinkies kids below 12 years old.

    Not only that.
    Know why? No balls to taunt the huge mass of unvaxxxed from certain religious group due to their beliefs. They can only come out with “balless” rules & regulations. That’s what they are good at.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    #06-195 Babanana:
    All sportsmen. The advisory did say not to play sports for two weeks after jab.

    If Sinkies just think for a moment on the above “recommendation”, it CLEARLY indicates this (mRNA) stuff is BAD for your health, yes? LOL.

    Suppose you are a normal, healthy person who likes to play sports or do regular exercise (which everyone knows is GOOD for human health & well-being); and then some doctor comes along to say you MUST drink this special EXPERIMENTAL potion which CANNOT prevent you from getting Flu, or spreading the Flu but only has “efficacy” in reducing your chance of dying from flu (even though you have no flu now :),
    BUT the caveat is that you CANNOT play sports or exercise for 2 weeks.

    - Now, would YOU then think that “special” potion is GOOD or BAD for your body? LOL.

    - Further, will YOU actually DRINK that potion or tell that “mad doctor” promoting this experimental potion to go Fvuk-Off instead ? LOL.

    Now, imagine how much WORSE it is when its an INJECTION (of that same potion) which goes directly into your bloodstream and circulates rapidly to ALL your organs?

    Still think the “Benefits outweigh the Risks” as touted by PAPies gang? LOL

    In any case, I suspect 2 weeks might be an UNDERSTATEMENT.

    This mRNA stuff basically hijacks your own body’s cells to produce the SPIKE protein, which it then places on the cell surface, so that your OWN body’s T-cells ATTACKS them as foreign cells.
    In other words, it makes your body ATTACK itself. WTF.

    So, who knows HOW LONG this process might go on and did they even do any study or had actual scientific DATA to justify that “2 weeks” period??

    What if its actually 2 YEARS (Fact is, it takes about 2 years for your entire body’s cells to be ALL fully replaced with new ones), but because they know saying 2 years is hard-sell so they downplay it to 2 weeks? LOL.

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  • #006-195 Ah LeeBabanana:

    After my first jab, the next day went to lug a supermarket trolley home.After a few hours, felt my heart beaing faster than usual. But the feeling went away after an hour. Was scary.

    Shortness of Breath: My second jab was on September 17. Did not do strenuous exercise for the first 2 weeks after the second jab. However, now I feeling pain in the chest at rest and have shortness of breath when doing my routine exercises like pull-up and sit-up. I am getting worried after seeing sports people having heart attacks.

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  • #006-195 Ah LeeBabanana:

    LOL at yourself. No need to be sarcastic or overly emotional Just becos my post is something you don’t like to read. Don’t be like some people who can’t agree to disagree nicely.
    I’m aware of the points your raised as it has been raised many times on countless threads on TRE.

    I’m just saying, if people CHOOSE to get jabbed, then for goodness sake heed their advice and not do strenuous exercise for two weeks. Is that logical and in your interest?

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: If Sinkies just think for a moment on the above “recommendation”, it CLEARLY indicates this (mRNA) stuff is BAD for your health, yes? LOL.

    Suppose you are a normal, healthy person who likes to play sports or do regular exercise (which everyone knows is GOOD for human health & well-being); and then some doctor comes along to say you MUST drink this special EXPERIMENTAL potion which CANNOT prevent you from getting Flu, or spreading the Flu but only has “efficacy” in reducing your chance of dying from flu (even though you have no flu now :),
    BUT the caveat is that you CANNOT play sports or exercise for 2 weeks.

    - Now, would YOU then think that “special” potion is GOOD or BAD for your body? LOL.

    - Further, will YOU actually DRINK that potion or tell that “mad doctor” promoting this experimental potion to go Fvuk-Off instead ? LOL.

    Now, imagine how much WORSE it is when its an INJECTION (of that same potion) which goes directly into your bloodstream and circulates rapidly to ALL your organs?

    Still think the “Benefits outweigh the Risks” as touted by PAPies gang? LOL

    In any case, I suspect 2 weeks might be an UNDERSTATEMENT.

    This mRNA stuff basically hijacks your own body’s cells to produce the SPIKE protein, which it then places on the cell surface, so that your OWN body’s T-cells ATTACKS them as foreign cells.
    In other words, it makes your body ATTACK itself. WTF.

    So, who knows HOW LONG this process might go on and did they even do any study or had actual scientific DATA to justify that “2 weeks” period??

    What if its actually 2 YEARS (Fact is, it takes about 2 years for your entire body’s cells to be ALL fully replaced with new ones), but because they know saying 2 years is hard-sell so they downplay it to 2 weeks? LOL.

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  • Trust only myself:

    All those who died fall in and submit their names for compilation…..?

    Or is there a website for those who died to upload their particulars?

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    #006-195 Ah LeeBabanana:
    LOL at yourself. No need to be sarcastic or overly emotional Just becos my post is something you don’t like to read. Don’t be like some people who can’t agree to disagree nicely.
    I’m aware of the points your raised as it has been raised many times on countless threads on TRE.

    I’m just saying, if people CHOOSE to get jabbed, then for goodness sake heed their advice and not do strenuous exercise for two weeks. Is that logical and in your interest?

    Who’s being emotional here? I’m not laughing at you but at the ridiculous advisory and also pointing out the flaw in your assumption that an “advisory” means liability is no longer applicable.

    If its truly on a voluntary basis with NO coercion at all and with proper informed consent, then yes, the “advisory” would have weight and responsibility will largely rest with the person taking the jab.

    If an agency is “forcing” people to take some injection, no matter what “advisory” (good or bad) they give, the RESPONSILITY still rest with the agency.

    For example, lets say I offer you a loaded gun and then give you “advisory” that it is dangerous and you should NOT point it at your head with the safety unlocked. Then, if you voluntarily accept the loaded gun under no duress whatsoever, but proceed to ignore my “advisory”, plays Russian roulette with it and shoots yourself in the head.
    Who is to be blamed? All completely your own fault, yes?

    Conversely, if I tie you to a chair, and then point the loaded gun at your head and FORCE you to play Russian roulette, but I ALSO give you the SAME “advisory” NOT to play with the gun.

    Then, does it mean my “advisory” absolves me of any responsibility or guilt, if you get killed by the loaded gun?
    You get it now? LOL.

    There IS a difference, and that’s why I highlight it for readers.

    That’s also why I often give outlandish illustrations to show logical process, not because I’m repetitive or long-winded but because some Sinkies will not get the subtle difference, if I don’t use glaring examples or go step-by-baby-step.

    Hence, no need for you to be so offended lor. If you want to debate, then you’re welcome to shoot down my points logically, rather than just saying “agree to disagree nicely” – which really says NOTHING at all.

    I’m not so “sensitive” like snowflakes or strawberry cupcakes lah. LOL.

    I respect people who speak Truth and are able to support it with logical counter-points, rather than people just being “nice”.
    If you want “nice”, go get a pet hamster who will never disagree with you. LOL.

    As the saying goes: “Truthful words often hurt, but nice words are mostly not truthful.”
    “Porkliticians” are also mostly “nice” with words but they hardly tell you any Truths, so which do you prefer? LOL.

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  • Kudos:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/despite-vaccine-passport-schemes-covid-cases-surging-across-europe

    One place where COVID cases and deaths remain low compared to other European countries is Sweden, which never imposed a hard lockdown and has no vaccine passport scheme or mask mandate.

    Tech: Sweden bet on natural immunity and they won, their vax rate is low. Sinkies thought they could do the same but with the high vaccination rate, it is no longer possible for natural immunity to kick in because the body’s natural immune system has already been damaged by the mRNA vaccines.

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  • Ahlengbangsai:

    WAO!

    A freedom fighter cum a great philosopher who specialised on freedom fighting?

    TRE truly a rich ground to nurture great philosophers!

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: Who’s being emotional here? I’m not laughing at you but at the ridiculous advisory and also pointing out the flaw in your assumption that an “advisory” means liability is no longer applicable.

    If its truly on a voluntary basis with NO coercion at all and with proper informed consent, then yes, the “advisory” would have weight and responsibility will largely rest with the person taking the jab.

    If an agency is “forcing” people to take some injection, no matter what “advisory” (good or bad) they give, the RESPONSILITY still rest with the agency.

    For example, lets say I offer you a loaded gun and then give you “advisory” that it is dangerous and you should NOT point it at your head with the safety unlocked. Then, if you voluntarily accept the loaded gun under no duress whatsoever, but proceed to ignore my “advisory”, plays Russian roulette with it and shoots yourself in the head.
    Who is to be blamed? All completely your own fault, yes?

    Conversely, if I tie you to a chair, and then point the loaded gun at your head and FORCE you to play Russian roulette, but I ALSO give you the SAME “advisory” NOT to play with the gun.

    Then, does it mean my “advisory” absolves me of any responsibility or guilt, if you get killed by the loaded gun?
    You get it now? LOL.

    There IS a difference, and that’s why I highlight it for readers.

    That’s also why I often give outlandish illustrations to show logical process, not because I’m repetitive or long-winded but because some Sinkies will not get the subtle difference, if I don’t use glaring examples or go step-by-baby-step.

    Hence, no need for you to be so offended lor. If you want to debate, then you’re welcome to shoot down my points logically, rather than just saying “agree to disagree nicely” – which really says NOTHING at all.

    I’m not so “sensitive” like snowflakes or strawberry cupcakes lah. LOL.

    I respect people who speak Truth and are able to support it with logical counter-points, rather than people just being “nice”.
    If you want “nice”, go get a pet hamster who will never disagree with you. LOL.

    As the saying goes: “Truthful words often hurt, but nice words are mostly not truthful.”
    “Porkliticians” are also mostly “nice” with words but they hardly tell you any Truths, so which do you prefer? LOL.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Rarer than lottery strikes:

    WAKE UP KID, lah. Here is some stunning revelations found on twitter of the after-effects of vaccination in numerous countries.

    COVID DEATHS BEFORE AND AFTER THE JAB on Twitter

    https://twitter.com/iskritisch/status/1454725438417391619

    Rarer than lottery strikes: Several billions of jabs have been administered worldwide, and you only managed to cite these as evidence that the vaccines are dangerous?

    Mathematically, the number of adverse incidents of jabbing the vaccines is indeed rare, rarer than lottery strikes!

    and there are more young athlete gone to see their makers prematurely too.

    Daunting compilation of athletes collapsing and dying from the covid VAX

    https://www.brighteon.com/ce7f2764-67df-4c6a-8667-4c86251afd0c

    Is this the beginning of the end of human civilisation?

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  • oxygen:

    @ True Blue Singaporean

    YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF this question – how many in frontline duties (such as teachers, healthcare and transportation etc etc ) were coerced or subject to undue influence into submission…unless they want to give up their jobs

    True Blue Singaporean: 61% voted for, but 85 % fully vaccinated. is that a swing of 24 % in favor of govt?

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  • Real True Blue People:

    Please call yourself true blue sheep.

    True Blue Singaporean:
    61% voted for, but 85 % fully vaccinated. is that a swing of 24 % in favor of govt?

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  • #06-195 ahleebabanana:

    So go tell the govt directly instead of bleating loudly here.
    Better still copy these to the govts of the world.

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: Who’s being emotional here? I’m not laughing at you but at the ridiculous advisory and also pointing out the flaw in your assumption that an “advisory” means liability is no longer applicable.

    If its truly on a voluntary basis with NO coercion at all and with proper informed consent, then yes, the “advisory” would have weight and responsibility will largely rest with the person taking the jab.

    If an agency is “forcing” people to take some injection, no matter what “advisory” (good or bad) they give, the RESPONSILITY still rest with the agency.

    For example, lets say I offer you a loaded gun and then give you “advisory” that it is dangerous and you should NOT point it at your head with the safety unlocked. Then, if you voluntarily accept the loaded gun under no duress whatsoever, but proceed to ignore my “advisory”, plays Russian roulette with it and shoots yourself in the head.
    Who is to be blamed? All completely your own fault, yes?

    Conversely, if I tie you to a chair, and then point the loaded gun at your head and FORCE you to play Russian roulette, but I ALSO give you the SAME “advisory” NOT to play with the gun.

    Then, does it mean my “advisory” absolves me of any responsibility or guilt, if you get killed by the loaded gun?
    You get it now? LOL.

    There IS a difference, and that’s why I highlight it for readers.

    That’s also why I often give outlandish illustrations to show logical process, not because I’m repetitive or long-winded but because some Sinkies will not get the subtle difference, if I don’t use glaring examples or go step-by-baby-step.

    Hence, no need for you to be so offended lor. If you want to debate, then you’re welcome to shoot down my points logically, rather than just saying “agree to disagree nicely” – which really says NOTHING at all.

    I’m not so “sensitive” like snowflakes or strawberry cupcakes lah. LOL.

    I respect people who speak Truth and are able to support it with logical counter-points, rather than people just being “nice”.
    If you want “nice”, go get a pet hamster who will never disagree with you. LOL.

    As the saying goes: “Truthful words often hurt, but nice words are mostly not truthful.”
    “Porkliticians” are also mostly “nice” with words but they hardly tell you any Truths, so which do you prefer? LOL.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    #06-195 ahleebabanana:
    So go tell the govt directly instead of bleating loudly here.
    Better still copy these to the govts of the world.

    Yah lah yah ah… somebody LOSE the plot, don’t dare to debate with me based on logical arguments, then now talk rubbish say wat “tell the govt of the world…”? LOL.

    Then, you yourself also rant online here wat…
    Good night & sleep tight Sinkie. LOL.

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  • Biden's Flatuous Malady:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: For example, lets say I offer you a loaded gun and then give you “advisory” that it is dangerous and you should NOT point it at your head with the safety unlocked. Then, if you voluntarily accept the loaded gun under no duress whatsoever, but proceed to ignore my “advisory”, plays Russian roulette with it and shoots yourself in the head.
    Who is to be blamed? All completely your own fault, yes?

    Conversely, if I tie you to a chair, and then point the loaded gun at your head and FORCE you to play Russian roulette, but I ALSO give you the SAME “advisory” NOT to play with the gun.

    Then, does it mean my “advisory” absolves me of any responsibility or guilt, if you get killed by the loaded gun?
    You get it now? LOL.

    There IS a difference, and that’s why I highlight it for readers.

    Despite the restriction and coercion. The fact is the player chooses to play. Physically not forced but psychologically, yes. Still blame oneself for playing when one can choose to walk away.

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  • #06-195 AhLeeBabaNana:

    YAWN. Dare not tell govts? Living up to your name?

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: Yah lah yah ah… somebody LOSE the plot, don’t dare to debate with me based on logical arguments, then now talk rubbish say wat “tell the govt of the world…”? LOL.

    Then, you yourself also rant online here wat…
    Good night & sleep tight Sinkie. LOL.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Biden’s Flatuous Malady:

    YOUR FLATULENCE comes from ignorance. A lot, if not all, those noted fatalities in sporting arena, HAVE NO CHOICE OF RISKS AND CONSEQUENCES that followed.

    Biden's Flatuous Malady: Despite the restriction and coercion. The fact is the player chooses to play. Physically not forced but psychologically, yes. Still blame oneself for playing when one can choose to walk away.

    It is their job and livelihood, no difference from an airline pilot who (if vaccinated) might one day suddenly collapse and dies of at the control in flight due to the vaccine side effects.

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  • Biden’s Farts Oxygen:

    oxygen:
    @ Biden’s Flatuous Malady:

    YOUR FLATULENCE comes from ignorance. A lot, if not all, those noted fatalities in sporting arena, HAVE NO CHOICE OF RISKS AND CONSEQUENCES that followed.

    It is their job and livelihood, no difference from an airline pilot who (if vaccinated) might one day suddenly collapse and dies of at the control in flight due to the vaccine side effects.

    Still your own personal decision. Tomorrow God may decides to flatten you under a bus the moment you steps out your house.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Biden's Flatuous Malady: Despite the restriction and coercion. The fact is the player chooses to play. Physically not forced but psychologically, yes. Still blame oneself for playing when one can choose to walk away.

    Yes, you are correct that the individual is always the one with the Free Will to decide.

    However, my point is that the (2 week) “advisory” does NOT absolve the criminality & moral bankruptcy of the agency that gave out that mandate, because your decision is under duress and/or comes with severe negative consequences.

    Yes, it may be psychological “force”/ coercion, but bear in mind, there are still PHYSICAL consequences at the end of the day.

    i.e.) When PAPies passes clearly NONSENSICAL restrictions to say your company can fire you just because you are not jabbed (plus most other companies will also be hesitant to hire you since they “force” all companies to disallow “un-jabbed” from going into the office); then the consequences are physical since you may not be able to put food on the table for your family and eventually may not even have a roof over your head.

    Most Sinkies will fold easily, which is why you see majority already succumb without any least bit of resistance at all. LOL.

    Furthermore, lets suppose, you have the means (perhaps you are already very wealthy from Toto 1st prize win and don’t need a job. LOL), so you can choose to “walk away” easily from the above; Then it STILL does NOT absolve the Criminal actions of the agency trying to force/coerce you in that situation, yes?

    E.g.) If someone plants heroin into your bag and then wants to blackmail you to do their bidding, but you did not succumb and then later found CCTV evidence that the blackmailer planted it into your bag, so you are free to “walk away” from the whole episode.

    Then, you still CAN charge the Blackmailers for their Crimes, yes?
    They are still guilty of the ORIGINAL Crime, even if you had successfully “walked away” and their scam failed for you.

    The same reasoning applies for above discussion, so I agree each individual can certainly choose among BAD options or “walk away” if they have better options available; but that still does NOT mean the agency doing the “forcing” / coercing is free from their responsibility, no matter what stupid “advisory” they gave out.

    Hence, they (PAPies) will have to answer for their CRIMES, sooner or later. LOL.

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  • Biden Flatuous Malaise:

    Spineless Sinkie Syndrome: However, my point is that the (2 week) “advisory” does NOT absolve the criminality & moral bankruptcy of the agency that gave out that mandate, because your decision is under duress and/or comes with severe negative consequences.

    Yes, it may be psychological “force”/ coercion, but bear in mind, there are still PHYSICAL consequences at the end of the day.

    Sad to say, the “advisory” is really an insidious, preemptive measure legally to absolve any blame of misadventures.
    But it is an entirely different matter regarding restrictions/coercion/mandate which the litigant/s can challenge (as what TRE is doung now)

    The way I see the whole problem is Sinkies “sabo” one another. VAXXX vs UNVAXX. Govt. had to be draconian to appease those stupid “Spineless Sinkie” who choose to be ‘potential zombies.’ lol

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  • oxygen:

    @ Biden’s Farts Oxygen:

    YOU MIGHT AS WELL DON’T EXIST or find your pathway to extinction so there is NO PERSONAL DECISION to make.

    Or perhaps a sudden huge earthquake in Sumatra shakes the buildings in LEE-jiapore and you got buried in the ensuing rubble. No need to make the personal decision to vax yourself or worry about the dictatorial oppression leaning on the unvaccinated you!

    You obviously have no property right of freedom to choice at birth to mortality ending.

    The rest of us have!

    Biden’s Farts Oxygen: Still your own personal decision. Tomorrow God may decides to flatten you under a bus the moment you steps out your house.

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