Very big words used at Shangri-la dialogue
June 17th, 2022 | 
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During the recently concluded Shangri-la dialogue, in reply to a question raised by a Chinese delegate, very big words such as Raucous, Rambunctious and Discombobulating were used by the Singapore defence minister, Ng Eng Hen (NEH). Luckily, he didn’t let go rambutan.
The whole idea of that forum was to enable senior defence people from various countries to gather and discuss about defence and security issues in order to help reduce regional and global misunderstandings and misjudgements etc and to enhance understanding in order to minimise military tensions and conflicts. Not every participant is a native english speaker.
NEH could have used equally effective but much simpler words in his reply instead of those mentioned. It betrayed his cockiness and condescending attitudes towards a foreign, non native english speaking guest and being the host, reflected very badly on him and by extension, the host country, Singapore as well.
Like it or not, the world has changed. I personally feel that it is unwise for us, particularly the pap government to blissfully continue sucking too much of those ang mo tua kee juices.
Wise Warren Buffet taught the world that business schools reward difficult complex behaviour more than simple behaviour but simple behaviour is more effective.
I suspect HEN’s deliberate usage of those bombastic words were his desperate attempts at if you cannot convince them, confuse them.
I leave it to my fellow netizens to form their own opinions.
Think.
Simon Lim
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Singlish would be much better.
Here, everyone talkcock, and anyhow talk. Stupid questions, nonsense answers, talk cock sing song, not serious, all ok.
Like this, all will understand.
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FT will buy Singapore.
Simple.
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Show china guy he *chiak kantang* one.
Dont try to put china down or be prepared to get retribution.
Even new aussie govt trying to mend fences.
Ang mohs will desert you once they see no more value in you.
Dont get farked after getting used.
We are still part of Asia,like it or not.
Bombasticism is a show of unfriendliness.
Chinese n asians are sensitive n sensible.
Dont jeopardise tiny Sg.
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Like his Big Boss Mai Hum, Chicken HEN still THINKS the ANGMO To date REMAIN Tua Kee. Yeah, maybe still Tua Kee But for donkey years already LIMBEK and FOOL Oops FULL of DEAD CELLS! Advice this JLB USELESS Chicken HEN to look at the mirror and step down for every citizen sake, period.
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Most condos owned by FT. HDB are selling off land in mature estates for condos. There was an article that a ChinaPR bought one whole floor of a shopping mall.
yes – you are totally right – FT are already buying $inkieland and the beggar $inkies will be renting from them.
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In complete English, and Plain Words, by Ernest Gowers – Hen’s lingo ‘prowess’ is called FLOWERY language.
About 30 years ago, my native Eng lang teacher from England instructed us Flowery Language applies in courtship, and romance to arouse erotica.
In business and commerce, esp in work too, short and sharp sentences, plain Eng words construction leads to quick and easy understanding on the reader and listener.
Flowery language arouse emotional eroticism relating to personal love.
Hence notice – I beg all to analyze the construction of ALL PAP public speeches and dialogs – the Flowery and General meaning words PAP master to DUMB SGs.
Esp when it comes to sharing pain, the PAP used the word Singapore. When it comes to POLITICAL DIVIDE, the PAP skipped ‘personal’ words – EXCEPT the DISAPPEARING WORDS of Nationalism, Nationalistic, Unity, BUT SOCIETY PEOPLE, RESILIENCE, the last 3 SPR are THE MOST USED words in PAP speeches.
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Aiyoh, million$ minister use must million$-sounding words, mah. Then ppl will think he’s very educated (aka implied competent) hence deserves million$ pay.
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More flowery than flower crabs !
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There is really no need to humiliate and be condescending to someone who is asking a genuine question, especially when the question is from someone who is not a native English speaker. Why is the Shangri-La Dialogue called the Shangri-La Dialogue? What is the meaning of DIALOGUE?
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He should show the power of Singlish like don’t yayapapaya, inside is not within, KPKB, & knn. No standard lah.
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Bro, yours is the best piece today. So apt. And accurate. Bravo.
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We want to add.
Years ago when we were still in pap island, the 2 pap fashionable words often used by pap to con cotton sheep were Affordable and Unsustainable.
Affordable is used by pap whenever cotton sheep pays. As long as the pap policy says cotton sheep pays, pap says the policy is Affordable. and cotton sheep all believed in the affordability.
Unsustainable is used by pap whenever it is pap government’s job to provide the service. Every ffffing thing to do with public hospitals is unsustainable. Every ffffing thing to do with more help to the low income is unsustainable. While pap mouths unsustainable practically everyday, pap pays each other S$m per annum and the S$m per annum all become affordable since cotton sheep is paying for the S$m per annum.
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Good Morning, Minister of Defense Dr Ng Eng Heng. Well done for standing up to a communist general and tell him off.
Free speech is allowed here, of course with the oft repeated caveats. Your critics here are put off by your choice of bombastic language and nothing else but picking on you on the nitty and gritty. No matter what you are entity to free speech and freedom of expression. Free speech is not always bad after.
Thank you.
Simon Lim you think you are good at playing the good guy and the bad guy. Hahaha. If you are not smart, don’t try to play smart. The worst thing is you are doing it with fear. People here can easily see through what you are doing because of fear. The next piece of shit he writes will be to single out another minister for praise, as though this would cancel out the criticism on the Defense Minister.
Simon Lim, what do you know about affray? Don’t try to direct it at me if you don’t know what you are talking about. I am the complainant of an assault. Mind you, I got all the necessary proof such as police statement, police CCTV recording, medical reports from Tan Tock Hospital. Long story cut short, the police investigation is over. I am issued a stern warning for affray instead. I allow file a magistrate complaint in state court long before the police investigate were complete because I have good reasons the police have no intention to pursue the assault case. Now the magistrate office moving in steps with the police have refused me help to seek redress for a proper hearing at the state court. I will try to get Kenneth Jayaretnam to write my story if he is kind enough.
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Singaporeans need to stand up, rise against PAP, to deflower the PAP, esp deflower the Hen or else the Hen go Geylang rampaging.
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I was issued a stern warning for affray instead. The magistrate office informed me not the police the assailant had also been issued a warning letter by the police. I kept in the dark what kind of warning my assailant had received from the police.
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This Simon is really a CCP lover, today China is not being bullied but its the bully. China Tuaki is it? Going around intimidating neighbours and issuing threats and warnings.
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Diplomacy –
the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and tactful way.
Apparently, NEH is a tank – without diplomacy.
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https://tinyurl.com/twntzc54
Investigation of Covid-19 origin –
“He { mr. Scott Morrison } said we need UN-style weapons inspectors marching into China,
kicking down the laboratory door,
insisting on the test-tubes and the computers and the Petri dishes,”
Mr Fitzgibbon said.
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NEH forgot diplomacy,
but China remembers . . .
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Hahaha! Soon Hen will have to learn how to make speeches in POETIC CHINESE(MANDARIN).
You see,ang mohs all learning mandarin despite their arrogance.
Money talks,eh?
Wait till future US PRESIDENT DIALOGUE IN MANDARIN with XJP,then you slap your own how lian face!
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Very significant questions asked.
But the reply was poor.so poor.
Felt like some personal issues involved.
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I wonder why Zhao Xiaozhuo, a senior fellow at the Academy of Military Sciences and a representative of China’s People’s Liberation Army, spoke in English. Simon, you forgotten how our “Terrexes” got strategically hijack/detained in HK? Maybe NEH is reminding him and sending him back to fumble at the dictionary for a change? Think! lol
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HK has every right to impound our terrexes because the shipping docs (approved by both Consignor and Consignee, which are agencies under NEH) declared them as “Civilian vehicles”, when in fact they are clearly “military-grade armored vehicles”. But PAP dictionary defines both as same, hor? Maybe becos pappies think flying pigs is same as white monkeys.
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Not that simple. The seizure of the ICVs is more significant than it might seem at first glance based on Singapore’s stance on the SCS at that time.
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Our Ministers, please do not try to act smart and arrogant towards China.
If they get angry, they will collect every Chinese urine and pour by plane over our tiny island and all of us will drown.
No need Nuclear Missile. Ng Eng Hen don’t ask for trouble. KNNBCCB
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I understand the tensions in the SCS then and now, but FALSE declaration of any cargo is considered a crime or violation under international shipping regardless of the politics. Can anyone export weapon-grade plutonium bars while declaring them as “metallic bars”? Despite all the conspiracy theories, the seizure of the terrexes seemed to boil down to SAF/Mindef/NEH was sleeping. Based on SG stance? Or PAP’s stance? The latter has always been cannot lose face.
BTW, I have repeated stated my opinion about China grabbing of the SCS. Yet I can’t link the politics to the terrex seizure.
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100% a silly reply.
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The use of all those words means nothing but just to exhibit speaker’s arrogance.
It is also an insurance policy, in the event of those words did get him into trouble, he could just say “it was misquoted”, “misunderstood”, “it was not what it meant”, “lost in translation”, etc.
I think more importantly, he just likes to show he is on the side of the US of A.
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This author has been selling Squealer’s formula of simple slogans; ” China good, US bad”…a kind of echo that China sheep pickup.
The article he referred to, was actually more than flowery words but about authenticity of robust debates vs arranged diplomacy, face- saving duplicity vs blunt dialogues.
Which of course is an irony coming from NEH and PAP!
The problem of many of these writers is not because they support China, but the way they have immersed themselves in CCP narrative of censorship, selective facts and some are outright Chauvinists.
Hence, inevitably selecting facts and narratives to be aligned to CCP whether they are true or not.
When u ask yourself how can China be the financial capital of the world? How can it gain more allies? How can it transmit soft power?
The problem cannot be a generalization of US- led gang against China; simple slogan to stoke innate chauvinism, but a complex step by step dismantling of issues to particularities.
But the problem of such particularities is to admit somewhere along the line, China has done something wrong. And this cannot be allowed, because CCP in their narrative can do no wrong.
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Our defence Minister is not diplomatic towards a guest – that’s all about the article.This article did not side China by saying US is bad and China is good.
China grabbed SCS? Where you got this narrative from? China built a defensive post against US threats – that’s all China wanted to do. Vietnam and Philippines and other southeast Asian countries occupied the disputed scs islands but not reported in the media especially the west. Go do research.
Why china is good? Because China is peaceful country which never invaded and occupied other countries which what US and the west have done time after time even till today not just hundreds of years ago.
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“If you can’t explain it to a six year old, you don’t understand it yourself.”
― Albert Einstein
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Thank you for your very patient writing of the truth. Be careful the western sheep will come charging at you.
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Sure C is good. Go ask Dalai Lama, Tibetians n Uigyhurs
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C develop vibrant economy of Tibet autonomous region. US got native Indians autonomous region and its economy – how big?
C develop free housing for Tibetans in poorest areas. It is the same for other minorities in C. US to its natives?
C giving monthly allowances to every adult Tibetan. US?
C thrashed slavery practiced by Dalai Lama and helped liberalise many slave Tibetans.
Even recent years Dalai Lama admitted Tibet is doing well and people there enjoy much better life than Tibetans living in north India.
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Uyghurs population increases from 8m to 12.5 million in last 12 years. In Xinjiang you can see their language on every road sign and shop signboards and hear people speak their own language and cultural dance everywhere too. And their cuisine (yummy) every where. Where are native Indians in US?
Go visit Xinjiang enjoy. Forgot to say many babes there. Enjoy!
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It took much for Sg’s 1G Leaders to establish good relationship with China.
Paramount Leader Deng XP even invited Dr Goh to advise on economic development,the SEZs.
But younger PAP leaders think they can act *atas*.
Even US Treasury Sec Yellen trying to re-connect with China.
Who is Mr Ng?
Stop *crowing up the wrong tree* or you invite trouble.
China under XJP is no more an easy pushover,even can stand up to America.
Be wise,not arrogant.
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How many times has USA left their *allies* in Asia to fend for themselves when things look *sour* for them.
The americans have deserted Taiwan before.
Even South Vietnam.
Korean War?
At the end all,USA will still take care of its own interests after making use of their *allies* as a cover to face-off with their foes?
But Asians are natural worshippers of white men.This is even so in modern Sg.
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The only ally USA persistently support is Israel.
I guess alot of it got to do with jewish financiers’ support for US politicians?
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Lol. Dont get nervous. As I said, Im just mocking Chinese Chauvinists who cannot do maths, with stupid conspiracy theory or talk cock about fiat money.
Oh… thats you!! Then get nervous (:
Red Indians – the genocide was disgusting. Estimates, that about less than 300,000 after Custer last stand.
Today, more than 6 mio, 2.3% of land in US belongs to them. They are independent of the States, Reservation Lands are sovereign except when it concerns the Federal laws. Example, u can steal a car from Texas, drive to a Reservation land, they cannot arrest you unless the Tribal leaders agree.
Universal medical coverage and free tution at Universities that most Americans will not receive.
Depending on which Indian nation you belong to, some payout from casinos can range between USD 30,000 to almost a million per annum.
Yet, among the poorest 1% are in the Reservations. This is an interesting case of property rights and capitalism. Its property laws are communal , communist in nature.
“Markets haven’t been allowed to operate in reserve lands,” says Jules. “We’ve been legislated out of the economy. When you don’t have individual property rights, you can’t build, you can’t be bonded, you can’t pass on wealth. A lot of small businesses never get started because people can’t leverage property [to raise funds]. This act would free our entrepreneurial spirit, but it’s going to take a freeing of our imagination. We have to become part of the national and global economies.”
How does Tibet and Xinjiang compare?
Urbanization and industrial development vastly increased per capita resource utilization. Chinese studies estimate Xinjiang as a whole was already overpopulated by 2.3 million persons in 2015, significantly exceeding its ecological population carrying capacity.8 Jun 2021
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/06/08/genocide-population-xinjiang-uyghurs/
Seems similar to PAP FT policy.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
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C good ?
Cannot be all roses and peaches.
Mainland Civil servants pay cut not reflected ?
Somewhere flooding also not reflected.
Somewhere temp very high also not reflected.
My HK friend feedback last 2 years because of Covid HK civil servants no increment. This year suppose to increase but mainland china central gov intervene ( as China paycut therefore HK cannot increase ) and end up freeze again. His friends currently in civil sector damn tulan. Curse and swear you know who.
Tech: May I suggest, for a fair discussion, before you say flood, etc etc etc, look in your own backyard 1st.
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Only the ignorant or arrogant use big and obscure words to confuse others.
We have Mr Umbrage so he’s Mr Flowery Words?
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You are right. Not all roses and peaches. Also have bees and honey.
This video should be great for you. A young Uighur woman describes the pain and agony she suffered in Xinjiang.
https://www.ixigua.com/7108698942556242472?logTag=e5760779ddf55a36d288
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This Blur King is beyond hope. He cites more western fart and shit. This time, he even cites those against Indians in America. Put every blame on Indians, the white government is very good to them.
This guy must be on drugs.
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Lol. Ah yes…those who hide behide white man when they cannot win an argument with me.Even begging white man to tear me to pieces (:
Read properly la…dont be stupid. Stupidity makes u a coward, asking white man to help you, you must think white man is your father.
Is that why you cheered honest and brave Australia that beat China? Lol.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I0DJlSqlmEw
Racism for Sale – BBC Africa Eye documentary
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That Blur King has gone bonkers. Now barking like a crazy puppy. Many white men understand truth and easily see through the western propaganda against China. But this supposedly Chinese (maybe he is any race pretending to be Chinese) eats western fart and shit. Real nut case.
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America’s indian majority died from small pox infection. They have zero exposure and tolerance to the virus.
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The good white men who hurt BK’s mind deeply. They hurt his propagandized brain cells.
White people, brown people, black people, as long as they can catch the truth, they are good people.
Three cheers for good people of any race.
1. This Australian judge has a lot to say about US and “international rule order”. Western sheep can read to clear their mind if they are not stupid.
https://www.michaelpembroke.com/
2. Gregory Clark:
May 30, 2022 at 11:58 pm (Quote)
Fascinating debate.
I read this editorial article written by a Canadian who has lived in China for a few years. In this article he compares the US-style two-party democracy where one party tries its best (including spreading blatant lies, not to mention mis-information and half-truths) to belittle and dis-credit the other party vs. the (idealized — in my opinion) “one-party” democracy (or in fact, no-party meritocracy).
It’s an easy reading, as the article clearly illustrates the serious drawbacks and flaws of the current US political system at the Internet age, where lies travel faster than ever, especially among un-thinking masses.
One of the worst examples was the claim that hundreds if not thousands of Chinese students were massacred in Tiananmen Square on the night of June 3-4, 1989. The true story – namely that the incident was the result of the angry Beijing masses using force to oppose soldiers trying to reach the Square and in which many soldiers were also brutally killed – can be found in several sources, including the highly objective Columbia School of Journalism report, all listed on my website at http://www.gregoryclark.net.
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Lol. Dont get nervous. Be calm. Think clearly. Try use more imagination and creativity. The only way to do that is to read.
First, I get u to praise honest and brave Australisn,now u praise many white men. Im curing you of your Chinese chauvinism soon (:
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Ah Kermit the Fraud. Morning. I see that the echo of ” honest and brave Australian” is still swirling in your mind?
Yes. indeed you too seeing the light. Fascinating indeed how I cure you guys. Great, great…a few more sessions perhaps
Keep it up. Clap , clap…Chinese chauvinists cheering white men is a good start (:
Next lesson will be on propaganda. Example, both West and China do it, but why does China curtail information more, or why even Li Keqiang dont trust data from the provinces..
Lol. Getting a F+ today guys. Improved!
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Kermit, just a warning again. Dont copy wholesale. Read and interpret. Dont be lazy. This part is severely limiting.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l_QPMFnUDBw
First red alert issued for mountain torrents in Southern China
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Do you notice that some recent comments are loaded with never seen before CCP propaganda including but not limited to praises like ” current leadership under Xi,the CEO of CCP is people centric” (really?? given how the ordinary people suffered in Shanghai and Beijing under Xi’s strictly enforced directives to eradicate those invisible Omicron.) It is apparent that the CCP’s ‘little pinkies’ have already started their work in SG to propagate CCP’S agenda in Sg’ social media platforms.What do you think???
Tech: You keep saying the people in ShagHai are suffering, are you one of them or are you in ShanHai now? If you are, then I would tend to believe you are you are merely saying so after reading western propoganda?
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Western propaganda blames all individual troubles in China on Xijp, and their sheep follow along. In contrast, western individual troubles are blamed on individuals.
WA hospitals crisis: Mistakes and oversights led to the deaths of 147 patients in 2020/21
https://thewest.com.au/news/public-health/wa-hospitals-crisis-mistakes-and-oversights-led-to-the-death-of-147-patients-in-202021-c-5203429
No press ever blame those hospital deaths on the Australia PM. Very well propagandized “free” press. It’s good to be PM/Presidents of “free democratic countries”.
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What ever words used to emphasize the intentions of the host is really immaterial as long as it brings about certain level leadership and control by the host.Any participating nation who try to cast doubts by drawing CCP’s so call “red lines” should be called to “order” period.Sg is doing the right thing in this regard.What do you think???
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You have such shallow views.
China government is truly people centric even to the point of sacrificing economy for implementing lock downs in Shanghai and elsewhere so that hospitals are not over loaded with Covid patients especially ICU and many elderly die due to insufficient hospital capacities. Someone has done a study that 140 millions or more of people will be infected if no stringent measures in place and hospitals will be like over 100 times overstretched and many elderly will die.
US and Singapore people centric meh?
China government pair rich provinces with poorest provinces build many free housings for the poorest rural areas. Also dirt cheap housing for other pipes
China medical expenses is so Low that benefits her people. I can go on non stop.
Please do thorough research compare China with other countries especially the G7 and G20.
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@ China medical expenses is so Low that benefits her people. I can go on non stop.
Please go on . Just go on.
Tech: I can help to fill in the blanks if needed. lol
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@ China government pair rich provinces with poorest provinces build many free housings for the poorest rural areas. Also dirt cheap housing for other pipes
I dont think so.
https://tw.news.yahoo.com/婚宴影片太真實-中國網友-揭脫貧假象-遭警約談-030008111.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAM_roJVX6uQAnNG2G-bXEdxQjjfsytj7rkejfATaqBlPU72VzK8ee3a5FNflTpu-e0S9eyq3bn9x7Um4iePph0bnxWx64392XKFBlIveBOtj82k8FlbRcMpR5MNEsk70H9FBHY6NLjL7BNeQY4khtJp8Dn2Pqhzo1AvOqYOPJlQ
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Current flood in Guang Xi Guang dong even FuJian HeNan….some housing kena swept away by flood. If one look at the videos the housing not really impressive.
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//China medical expenses is so Low that benefits her people. I can go on non stop.//
sinkie land also started off with a very humble caring beginning ?? somehow along the way, sinkie land has turned into a monstrous neo-liberalist rentier ‘what is wrong with collecting more $$$$’ devil ??
some national institutions have morphed very much into “private inc inc inc” charging ‘private’ prices to give the impression of market pricing while giving wayang subsidies to show magnanimity (fake ??) on the part of the white monkey idiots and gang ?????
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@ tech
Please do.
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