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TR Emeritus then and TR Emeritus now

* The following is a long comment posted by our Techie, Andrew in an ongoing discussion with a fellow reader in a thread about Iris Koh, the founder of HTD, edited slightly for clarity.

Since it is mostly a true narrative  of the path that TR Emeritus (TRE) took in its over a decade of existence, we think it is more appropriate to escalate it into an individual post for the information of all our reader.

The opinions expressed are entirely his own observation, but mostly concurred by the team.

*** Start ***

I have been in TRE long enough to know that If TRE had wanted to make a nice profit out of our website, there are plenty of options. Initially, TRE could raise US$20k in a day under a certain doctor. It was then, a no holds barred and anything goes website, reader support was overwhelming.

When the doctor owner was “taken care” off [sic] in 2011 because a certain editor couldn’t keep his dicky in the right place and got caught by a reporter from TODAY, those who were left decided against that mode of operation and we went down the responsible, not anyhow “cheong” path. That probably turns our readers off, being so “timid” as some would describe it.

But that did not stop us from keeping TRE alive to continue to  provide a platform for fellow citizens to share, cry father cry mother. We prefer to think of the current TRE as an outlet for pent-up hot air, a platform for your voice, not some cowboy town and certainly not some anti-government website.

We are neutral, if you have an article praising You Con, we will print it, you have another praising the supposed mole Rashid, we will also print it, as long as it is not against our AUP and TOS. So it can be said that we are neither left, right or center, with everyone entitled to their opinions, no matter how childish or crazy it may seems. Everyone is encouraged to agree to disagree as mature adults.

From my observation, most Sinkies love martyrs, that can explain why it is so easy for Roy, Leong and even Terry to raise almost a $million combined. The more they are perceived to be “bullied” and “oppressed”, the more the easier, and the donation is not to really help them per se, its to send a message to the supposed bully, “the more you bully him/her, the more we will support”, so the ‘bully’ lan lan. It’s all human nature, it’s natural to love weaklings, can’t fault them for it.

After the doctor, TRE was never ‘bullied’ (probably because we went ‘timid’ and don’t anyhow cheong), so can explain why we never did managed to raise our intended target in ANY round of crowdfunding. We simply don’t appeal to the masses because most pay to want to watch a show, which we couldn’t stage, i.e. “cheonging”. We don’t get the intended funding because these donors (of course there are genuine ones, but limited supply) do not get to ‘slap’ the supposed bully, so to them, it would probably be a waste of time and money.

But no regrets, we believe in changes, we want changes and we do believe that there are some policies that can be improved upon to make life better for fellow citizens, but knowing the party that (don’t listen), we continued to provide a platform for feedback, it may be years or decades before the party starts listening and the daft wakes up, but we persisted and never gave up (until recently when the team felt that we are not achieving anything and financially, we could no longer support the platform).

Bottomline is, it is not our belief that “cheonging” is the best option to get things done, it will hurt a lot of people and ourselves. Look at ASS, TOC,  etc etc etc. And now look at Iris of HTD. The team believes in “communication and respect” (refer to my comment on what happened to WP).

We all have families, if we are “taken care of”, then who provides for them? We are not martyrs (not afraid to admit) and never will we be. We can only do so much and seeing how divided the society is right now, even HTD that supposedly shares the same goal as TRE in the unvax JR thingy, went actively all out to hamper TRE’s crowdfunding efforts for the Judicial Review against discrimination of the unvax. Iris is running the HTD like a business, and probably she prefers to milk her cult members for herself  (noticed how almost everything on HTD is paid?).

Anyway, we saw how WP refused to work with the other oppos because they think they “don’t share the same dream” so much so that when Rashid the supposed mole tried to sink the party, all the oppos kept quiet. The WP is/has been acting like the PAP Team B, most of us in TRE know that, since we have witnessed how the party “grew” since JBJ. That’s the situation as it is, in Sinkieland, IMHO.

Pathetic and ironic, right?

*** End ***

 

*Techie  Andrew is the only ‘surviving’ member of the original team since the website was “Wayang Party”. He has been with TRE for over a decade, keeping the platform functioning and alive.

 

 

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68 Responses to “TR Emeritus then and TR Emeritus now”

  • xoxo:

    Dear Andrew
    Thanks for keeping TRE alive n lively.
    Thanks Team TRE.
    And,i agree with your observations.
    Cheerio,bro!

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  • Singaporean R Free Rider:

    ……and we went down the responsible, not anyhow “cheong” path.
    =========================================================
    Yes.

    As a UTRE 2.5 Phd Dr PAP supporter, I agreed with Techie Andrew that TRE is a responsible site.

    With freedom comes responsibility….
    自由伴著責任而生

    Freedom makes a huge requirement of every human being. With freedom comes responsibility. For the person who is unwilling to grow up, the person who does not want to carry his own weight, this is a frightening prospect.
    –Eleanor Roosevelt

    Calling all Singaporeans, please print and share my UTRE 2.5 Phd wisdom :)

    All hail UTRE …

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  • panyusg:

    Keep it going…how much does TRE needs per month?

    And what are the expenses?

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    So how??? Do we get to read Yoong’s memo or is it black listed BF print on line? Aiyah!!! Just stick to the Bull of the man who Con You la!!!…the bastard is laghing while burning knowing he is still winning

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  • @panyusg

    Please wait for our final announcement on TRE’s last dance.

    @Temusik Patriot

    Mr Yoong’s website is independent of TRE, although TRE has the exclusive right to Mr Yoong’s memoir. With or without TRE, Mr Yoong website will be activated when the time is ripe.

    It is now about 60% completed and is work in progress. We made Mr Yoong a promise and we have every intention to keep our end of the bargain, to the best of our ability.

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  • myfirstscrew:

    You send them 1000 articles about what China did, he will say they are propaganda and cannot listen to hearsay.

    As for WP, you cant expect perfection. At least they expanded to 11 members in parliament and still fighting for citizens. As you can see there are moles, how would WP want to work with other oppositions? And every opposition wants to lead, even Lim Tean or Red Dot small parties are trying to standalone. You know Singaporeans dont vote small parties. But all want to be heros, no one wants to follow.

    There are better quality oppositions but if they dont win a seat, their contribution is zero isnt it?

    Andrew is a good techie but does not mean he knows politics and strategy well. But good that he kept TRE alive while his heart still beats. Thanks.

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  • Spec Ops:

    Your reasons are the same as mine. There’s no way I am going to be martyr for anything or anyone as its just not worth it with the ruthless way this mafia destroys people.

    If they wanted to use Japanese occupation style torture tactics out in the open they would. The PM’s Queen Counsel Sikh lawyer is another one who gets off on destroying people in the courtroom and ending the way of life they knew it, like we saw with the Roy Ngerng case.

    Taking Roy Ngerng as example. He lost his job at Tan Tock Seng, got bankrupted over a blog post talking about how the government was handling our CPF. After getting his million dollars, he bailed and ran off to Taiwan in 2016 according to his wikipedia entry.

    Change of lifestyle, a lot of changes to move. Now though China is openly bragging about solving the Taiwan issue seeing parallels with Russia and Ukraine. From the frying pan, into the fire.

    China still is ahead of Singapore when it comes to being a sleazy psychopath monster with more spies and plants among the population as well as that social credit score. Look at Hong Kong and what its become. China will take over Taiwan in the next 4-5 years. US is no longer the superpower and will not protect it.

    I guess its back to ‘Whatsapp University’ (according to false opposition Pritam Singh and any other political animal) and other social media under anonymous names.

    If anything this shows why money enables the evil to flourish and the ‘good guys’ don’t get far. Because they control the system of money and they wrote the laws to protect themselves from us and fund the slick media empire where they control the flow of information.

    Which is why the booster and its consequences is the only way we will get any chance at change. Eventually it will have to. We are not going to escape the consequences of destroying innocence by injecting that poison into 5 year old kids. [Recall the doctor heading a 'Vaccination' Center who wrote to the police commissioner and others about the dangers of this to children, and his employer's office was raided, forcing him to resign.] Those parents took the screwdriver and put in the last nail into their child’s coffin with their eagerness for social media points and likes.

    And ‘Heal The Divide’ was a garbage concept to me anyway. Honestly do you want to shake hands with those who were by their consent and participation part of the Enemy?

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    When Bro Yoong leave for his msnsion in the sky…will website be active? Sad le! Should get it in print la!

    TRE Tech:
    @panyusg

    Please wait for our final announcement on TRE’s last dance.

    @Temusik Patriot

    Mr Yoong’s website is independent of TRE, although TRE has the exclusive right to Mr Yoong’s memoir. With or without TRE, Mr Yoong website will be activated when the time is ripe.

    It is now about 60% completed and is work in progress. We made Mr Yoong a promise and we have every intention to keep our end of the bargain, to the best of our ability.

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  • Thank you TRE:

    Great Job TRE.
    No more words need be said.

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  • John Doe:

    Insightful and informative – educates too. Thank you.

    Just a word of deviation, on proper and more accuracy of one point (for improvements?) – it’s not a certain case of NOT the PARTY Won’t Listen.
    They do SIT IN AND LISTEN.
    Their NATURE is they listen, steal, and appropriate – BUT THEY EXERCISE COMMAND AND CONTROL, ON THEIR OWN terms. Mind you, their legitimacy is OFFICIAL electoral MANDATE.

    However TURN it around – one day – when OTHERS has THE THAT mandate – BET THEY WILL FIGHT like hell, like Trump, to CLAIM fraud and steal.

    PS. Bottom line – keep going if possible they way NOW TRE is. However, as only a small fry here, I do have faith in all those running TRE behind the scenes. Do your best – and frankly your best is not what is really a BEST,bcz no one can be best at all times. But I accept.

    Thx for ALL hard work, sweat and tears (of joy too I believe).

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  • MarBowling:

    TRE Tech,

    Before TRE’s LAST DANCE, Would like to wish YOU and YOUR FAMILY GOOD HEALTH and BLESSINGS! Many THANKS to the [email protected] for BEING THE VOICE OF SINGAPOREAN FOR SINGAPORE!

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  • panyusg:

    Spore is just a 5-star hotel…safe, clean, very comfortable. Most things work, healthcare is excellent, transport is excellent, food and goods delivered to the door.

    The Police, largely unseen, will be there when called. So are the ambulances, fire engines, NEA and many services.

    In a 5-star hotel you get room service, things delivered to your door. So, is Spore.

    What are we so angry about? We have peace here. Let the Government does what it wants, what it likes if they do not intrude too much into my private life.

    Covid was when the Govt intruded…no Malls and dining in. They have an objective that I have to respect…they run this country. However, I have read widely and watching and waiting to see if disaster will strike.

    But no Malls and no dining in were just minus inconveniences in a 5-star hotel. I have zero risk from vaccine adverse effects. Government has max. risk including being voted out of power if the worst case scenario occur.

    I pay my dues, know my limits and live here. If it becomes unbearable, there are almost 200 countries in this big wide planet.

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  • panyusg:

    TRE should not have the Last Dance of Death.

    It can moderate blog inputs and just stay broadly centre-line. Being critical is not a crime nor will it attract POFMA.

    To spread a line of argument and have an agenda to stir up the crowd, will attract hostile repercussions.

    But Government is not perfect. Can be loudly criticised. They are the servants to the Republic, not the Lords of the Republic.

    World forces are in active movements. Spore has to earn enough by taxation and investment to keep Spore functioning well. Spore has a strong challenge to grow and to sustain itself.

    I have few angst about Spore. I contribute my views in a constructive way. I avoid being harshly and brutally critical. They serve no purpose.

    I am not anti nor pro PAP. But I am supportive where they do well and will comment constructively where they do not. Otherwise, they do not run my life.

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  • Harder Truths:

    It has been an honour and privilege knowing you and your work. May Heaven smile on you and yours. You have our heartfelt thanks and gratitude.

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    LOL, Andrew/TRE sounds like a defeated president Zelenskyy/Ukraine buckling under an overwhelming bully, which is exactly what bastards like Putin will next try to achieve when his initial Grab-Kyiv-Quick plan failed (actually the current situation is becos the world allowed Russia to grab Crimea back 2014). The reality is in a David vs Goliath contest, ppl seems to unrealistically hope/expects David to win. In the universal laws of conflict, the guy with more firepower always has the upper hand.

    But have sites like TOC and TRE really been unsuccessfully/defeated over the decade or so? It is said one can extinguish a fire, but cannot put out the seeds of flame that had been planted. The ruling party’s electoral mandate has dropped significantly since the 1G/2G era. This is in no small part due to the rise of social platforms for ppl on the ground to voice their issues. Recall also SG media used to be ranked about 130-140; now it is 160 – all due largely from Ownself Slap Ownself. At 61% votes, with about 8% coming from imported voters, the ruling party hold may not be as secure as what the trolls and doggies paint it to be.

    So is Goliath really winning? As in the current Ukraine war, both sides are bleeding badly – Goliath’s hope is that he can afford to bleed more than poor David. Which unfortunately is probably true.

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  • Realistically:

    I’d just like to caution that the socio-political-economic conditions in SINKaPOOR and also the geo-political and economic world conditions then and now are quite different.

    In the local context, the epic failures and incompetence of the emperor without clothes are being laid bare for sinkies to bear the brunt of his incomptence resulting in PREVENTABLE DEATHS; miseries, sufferings, loss of jobs, small biz closing down and the damage to the economy. Only those wayang party MPs (and the PAPies) have continued to luxuriate on their ill-gotten but legal MP monthly allowance of $16k just by doing the wayang to help legitimise both their existence and the bankruptcy of the regime.

    The lack of critical thinking skill of the writer can be seen by his blind acceptance of the wayang party propaganda filth that Raesah Khan is a “MOLE” when the evidence available would contradict such criminally defamatory accusation. My opinion of course, as I cannot prove or disprove such accusation since I am not in anyway connected or have been in touch with her. I would just like to say that when I read on TRE that someone had made a Police Report against her just b4 GE2020, I had posted here that I stood with her.

    Anyway, the lack of condemnation of Pritam Singh and Faisal Manap’s COP testimonies against which the COP has referred the matter to the Police/AGC, only goes to show the ranters here are not objective, to say the least……especially so that Pritam Singh had done NOTHING after learning of Raesah’s UNTRUTHS (not lie as alleged) for around 2 MONTHS……..

    Not to mention that in the midst of hundreds of thousands of sinkies being infected and hundreds dying preventable deaths from the C-19 virus, Pritam Singh deemed in appropriate to raise the issue of the Mayors’ pay which amounted to 0.003% of the Budget……………..so that he and his wayang party MPs could be seen to be “genuine” oppos…….great snake-oil ploy, in my opinion.

    Going back to the article, I would just remind him (& the TRE team) that I was told to STFU for trying to state the FACTS and REALITIES sinkies are now experiencing………which could have been prevented if there are less charlatans around. Also the writer had questioned me if the wayang-party MPs/members “OWE me $$$……….what relevance has that got to do with trying to debunk the wayang-party’s snake oil con? No wonder sinkies continue to suffer and the economy got hit while the wayang-party MPs continue to luxuriate on their $16k monthly MP allowance……ditto the PAPies.

    And so much for TRE’s slogan of “The Voice of Singaporeans For Singapore”!

    Tech: I may be sick, but since when has TRE or me ever been on the side of the WP? It is clear as day that I stated the WP has been ignoring us to this day because of Yaw. In another thread, I even opined that Pritam has failed as a leader in the supposed mole saga, where did you get the idea that we are for him, and since when have you told you to STFU? If we did, why are all your comments appearing Spam-speed these few days? If we had wanted you to STFU, we will just delete your comments, don’t even need to tell you to STFU, easier right?

    All along we have been saying that politically, we wanted to remain neutral, which is why we have NEVER endorsed ANY political parties, but we are sympathetic towards the oppos seeing how the odds are stacked against them. If any of these opps think that they need TRE to help print an event notice, we have NEVER rejected them, we are already so very neutral, what more do you expect from us?

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  • xoxo:

    So far,i dare say TRE has been an honest FEEDBACK FORUM for the govt.
    I am sure if good MPs n ministers who came ashore have been rewarded with good n useful feedback.
    If TRE were to dance the last time,the govt would lose a great n fertile ground of useful FEEDBACK from good and loyal sgs who only want the best for Sg n all trublu sgs.

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  • P Against People:

    It’s quite amusing that when people think of Singapore as a 5-star hotel, they think of themselves as guests in the hotel. They must be very rich.

    Think about the poor also. Can they be guests in a 5-star hotel? No, they are the cheap workers exploited by the hotel. When they are not cheap enough, the hotel get workers from elsewhere.

    panyusg: Spore is just a 5-star hotel…safe, clean, very comfortable. Most things work, healthcare is excellent, transport is excellent, food and goods delivered to the door.

    The Police, largely unseen, will be there when called. So are the ambulances, fire engines, NEA and many services.

    In a 5-star hotel you get room service, things delivered to your door. So, is Spore.

    What are we so angry about? We have peace here. Let the Government does what it wants, what it likes if they do not intrude too much into my private life.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    panyusg: To spread a line of argument and have an agenda to stir up the crowd, will attract hostile repercussions.

    The correct word is incite/instigate

    Yes, you are right… never be canon fodder to be made use of and then discarded like soiled underwear(like the stopid Hong Kong students.)

    While Hong Kong pro democracy activists Martin Lee incite/instigate the students to charge at the frontline, they (Martin & his gang) themselves hide far far away enjoying their fine dining…

    Martin Lee and Pastor enjoy fine dining …

    1) https://bit.ly/3y2kUpj

    2) https://bit.ly/3zM8HX8

    Never be canon fodder. Please download quickly before UTube removed it.

    The pro democracy supporters (the yellow) are very afraid of you knowing the truth and will complain to UT to get the video banned.

    The pro democracy supporters (the yellow) and the pastor do not want you to know the truth.

    Communist is bad, Democracy is bad. Only PAP is the best.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    Singaporeans are timid and fearful of change, this explains why the PAPPY has been successfully in winning 61% despite churning so many lousy policies and bullying locals. Singaporeans want to vote for big opposition party only, this also explains why PAPPY MPs sleep in parliament or never attend MPS still win. They voted for the brand and name, not what they do. So we have great individuals in oppositions and they speak very well but they dont win, the reason is such.

    TOC was brought down because it was winning readers as they successfully created a reliable and truthful image. With such a large following and acting like alternate media, PAPPY went all the way out to hunt and pull them down.

    As for TRE, it is just a complaint site where people come here to give their opinions, PAPPY has also successfully brainwashed locals that TRE is not reliable and tabloid. Since TRE is not a real threat to PAPPY, they did not go all the way to hunt like TOC.

    To all, the common enemy is PAPPY, we should only focus and combine fire power on it. There is no need to infight or fighting amongst ourselves as PAPPY would be damn glad to tell voters this is what opposition is about.

    New citizens and foreigners are imported for GDP growth and new votes and surely PAPPY is winning the war. Until the Singapore sheep fully awake and people stop fighting amongst, we probably have lost.

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  • 8-star generals:

    //While Hong Kong pro democracy activists Martin Lee incite/instigate the students to charge at the frontline, they (Martin & his gang) themselves hide far far away enjoying their fine dining…//

    yar lor ?? since when 8-star generals and pine-ministars (or ministars) are in the frontline on the real fight ?? most probably hor tua-liat-hoots are the ones (in air-con environment ??) decide (can be known as incite / instigate hor ???) to go or not go to wars (OR fights hor) or surrender hor ???

    leaders (alitocrats ???) lead hor while lesser mortar balls are trained / brainwashed to fight and quarrel with fellow mortar-balls on the other side for the “leaders” lar (wink wink ??) ???

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  • Spec Ops:

    Democracy just means rule by the mob. We saw that with the vast majority going for the TraceTogether tracking and privacy loss as well as those going for the injection and the rest of us being the minority our opinions were not respected by the dumb majority.

    The US in its heyday before it became on the path to destruction like Roman Empire, was a Republic, as stated by the Founding Fathers, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc.

    Most of these ‘pro-democracy’ in Hong Kong is funded by the US empire through the WEF bunch trying to infiltrate and trouble China which is its rival like what they are doing with Ukraine.

    China said no to the WHO dictatorship, because it was handing the power they have over to a western unelected bureaucracy and they didn’t want that.

    Same why Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine is historically Russian turf that the west was using as a platform to harass Russia.

    Despite western propaganda Russia has been using cruise missiles on military areas to avoid civilian casualties, and most civilian atrocities are Ukraine Armed Forces doing it, then pointing finger at Russians did it western media carrying water for them (like CNA, showing this country is a WEF slave like Japan and South Korea, which is why they also did sanctions against Russia when like Sinkieland they have no business with the problems of Eastern Europe).

    What we are seeing with artillery and missile strikes is gang warfare on international level.

    Thanks to Putin’s master chessplaying moves, the sanctions have backfired, the WEF forgot all about their lockdowns as they had to go into damage control.

    Putin is not my hero, but his decisions kept the enemy in our governments distracted away from us. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Notice how the lockdown measures went away when Ukraine was invaded, (also proof the PingPong virus was not as serious as they made out to be) and they looked depressed and suicidal in the most recent World Economic Forum.

    The deaths and sicknesses and overflowing hospitals you are now hearing from your contacts is the result of the death shot depleting people’s immune system or clotting up their blood until heart cannot pump, very little to do with whatever latest garden variety virus they come up with and make look scary.

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  • Realistically:

    I owe no one any explanation when the FACTS and the realities speak for themselves.

    As the High Court judge as he then was said in one HC judgment:

    “Misleading or deceptive conduct can be PASSIVE or active or a combination of both. It is passive when material facts are concealed and/or there has been economy with the truth. It is active when untruths are deliberately articulated and/or facts misrepresented. Given the broad spectrum of activity it encompasses, it would be pointless to attempt to precisely or exhaustively define it: see rr 55 to 63 of the LPPCR. What can be asserted with confidence, however, is that the solicitor’s duty of candour to the court in any given matter is indivisible, uncompromising and enduring. The failure to be candid with the court can lead to misleading and/or deceptive conduct on the part of a solicitor.”

    By posting what I consider to be criminally defamatory claim that Raesah is/was a “MOLE” is clear to me that there had been a failure to question such baseless allegation at best, especially in view of the conduct of the wayang-party’s Sec-Gen and leader of the Oppo. as to why he, PS, and the other wayang party leaders – Slyvia Lim and Faisal Manap – failed to inform Parliament of Raesah’s untruths for almost 3 months until she finally owned up in early November 2021………….and the absence of the wayang-party support for her who conduct was less damaging to sinkies trust and confidence against the conduct of the PAPies, with the latest strange and total silence of the 160th ranked SINKaPOOR’s media pertaining to US Chief Medical Adviser Dr Fauci’s being infected with the C-19 virus even though he had been twice vaccinated AND twice boosted. At least the 160th ranked media just reported that DPM Heng Swee Keat has been infected with the C-19 virus in Berlin, even though, like Dr Fauci (and I believe numerous others) that he (Heng) had been 2x vaccinated AND boosted.

    No, contrary to what MOH/MMTF has implied, being vaxxed and boosted per protocol offers NO PROTECTION against being infected and that the LONG-TERM adverse health consequences could be harmful.

    In my view, the said quote can also be applied to the HC judgment in the judicial review application which has been dismissed by Dedar Singh Gill J in [2022] HC 141.

    Incidentally, Ive said that I wrote to the MMTF for their affidavits in the same JR application and that I hv debunked the AGC’s reply that the affidavits could not be made available to non-litigants.

    I want to say that I had copied Carson Law chambers LLC my request by email based on what I could google. However my email copies to Carson Law failed to be delivered as the email address was not functional. So much for the writer’s response to the rather poor response (in his opinion) to his appeal for contributions.

    Even up till now, I still do not know Carson Law Chambers LLC’s email contact address.

    Tech: You ran around the whole city asking for something which one simple email to me you would have gotten. It is not as if you have not communicated with me before. You are so intelligent!

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  • Realistically:

    I see some toking cok about not wanting to be “martyrs”

    I’d just like to give the FACTS & Realities in the issuance of POFMA……..I think Lim Tean, a lawyer, has been POFMAed 3 or more times, while Kenneth Jeyaretnam, a 1st Class Hon Cambridge U economist, has said, he had never been issued one.

    From what I’ve just posted on the FACTS & Realities, one can speak one’s mind about the PAPies’ incompetence and failures without being worried that they would become “martyrs”

    Speaking of which, the late Lim Hock Siew and others who had been wrongfully imprisoned under the ISA in Ops Coldstore and Spectrum would have felt that their sacrifices would inspire others to follow their examples rather than just hide behind the computer keyboards ranting about RIP etc like what Teo Soh Lung has been doing for the last umpteen years to no effect.

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  • panyusg:

    Govenment and I are 180 deg apart when it comes to Covid vaccinations. I subscribe to the view that the jabs can cause great harm.

    i remain unvaxxed for that reason and I have not been sick for 2.5 years since Covid started. I expect to be well for many more months.

    As for government policy on economic development, I support and also disagree but no big issues.

    I am not paid to love the Government nor to hate the Government. I state my views without being vicious. Up to readers and Govenrment to decide whether they agree or not.

    Few issues are black and white. So, fine-tuning, back tracking and other methods can happen.

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  • @idontbelieveinccpbs

    I wouldn’t dispute your comment on TOC, at most to say that it is beyond that. What you cited may not be entirely true, having watched bloggers come and go. But since it is already history, no point bring it up again.

    As for TRE, I cannot reveal more that what I have already done, I can only say that what you have observed may not be entirely true. It’s a looooooooooong story.

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  • Realistically:

    By the very fact that you keep twisting and distorting the FACTS and the REALITIES, re: “you ran round the whole city”…………..

    I’d decided that I would not contact U when U told me in no uncertain terms that you would not allow me to use your platform to crowd fund a possible judicial review application from me……….& that you would not get anyone to help me with the formatting requirement of submitting my JR application, even tho I had said that I am fully responsible for the content input. Besides, U had stated that NO ONE, other than the litigants was entitled to receive a copy of the document/s file & even then NO CASE number was given……….contrary to customary practice of ALL court cases. Like I said, if I were to file my own separate application for JR, I would not even bother to look at what Carson Law had submitted.

    In any case, how is the FACT that Carson Law Chambers LLC not even listing its contact details be seen as being legitimate?

    Nah, I dun find any GOOD FAITH in your comments…………ie just another LOW LIFE character. But please dun blame sinkies for not coming out with the cash to meet your target of $50k. This notwithstanding that I find the arguments very weak and unlikely to succeed, which turns out to be the case.

    Tech: That is not entirely true. I told you that TRE is already crowdfunding an existing JR, I suggested to you to join as a co-litigant, but you wanted to go alone and lead the JR, claiming that you can do better than a lawyer. Do you think then that TRE would be able to convince the other litigants that you are capable to handle the JR and that we should trust you? You may be better than many of us, but you are still not a lawyer and who would trust you?

    One of the reason why TRE did not managed to get the required funding is because Iris (who controls the HTD cult where most unvax are) was actively hampering our efforts to reach out to these unvax and even lied that she would be starting a JR, hence the members were CONvinced.

    Lastly, I sam done playing twist and turn with you and sick and tired of your calling names and acting like some big fiack, so for your own sake, stip wasting out time and go back to wherever you were hibernative in. We will no longer publich any of your comments on TRE.

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  • BK:

    Sincere thanks to Richard, Joseph and Andrew. Some of the vitriol against you guys which were not published were really disgusting.

    Grateful to have shared this space with you guys. Much thanks!!

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    idontbelieveinccpbs: Singaporeans are timid and fearful of change,

    On the contrary, Singaporeans are not timid but rational persons.

    Because Singaporeans are rational persons, Singaporeans voted for wise and capable PAP.

    As rational person, Singaporeans do not want mindlessly gun ho type of leadership such as Zelensky who lead the country into disaster by blindly trusting the Americunt and NATO who egged him on to go war with Russia.

    Zelensky is what chinese corrupt party (ccp) like to said:
    1. 四肢發達,頭腦簡單。有勇無謀。abled bodied, simple minded, pea brained dude.

    However I do agree with your moniker “I Don’t Trust ccp BS

    You are a good canon fodder for Oppie, to be used and discarded like soiled underwear.

    Yes, me too don’t trust ccp BS. But I am not canon fodder.
    I am one class above you, I don’t trust Americunts/Western BS too.

    ‘You’re Afraid!’: Ukrainian Woman Berates Boris Johnson
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/boris-johnson-berated-by-ukraines-daria-kaleniuk-for-not-stopping-putin

    Democracy, Anyone? America’s Double Standards
    https://bit.ly/3zPOy2n

    Arnab Calls Out US Hypocrisy
    https://shorturl.at/mHU24

    Trust no one but trust PAP. All hail PAP.
    PAP supporters please print/distribute/share my post.
    In Dollar$ We Tru$t. Prai$e the Dollar$. Glory be with the Dollar$
    GE2024.PAP.Guarantee.Win.Again

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  • Pitch-forked Sinkies:

    Spec Ops: Putin is not my hero, but his decisions kept the enemy in our governments distracted away from us. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Notice how the lockdown measures went away when Ukraine was invaded, (also proof the PingPong virus was not as serious as they made out to be) and they looked depressed and suicidal in the most recent World Economic Forum.

    @ Specs Ops

    It’s time to put the “New World Order” into disorder.
    Russia & China can thwart them.

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  • old man:

    Where is oxygen.
    Has not heard from him a long time.

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  • Do your best:

    Do your best.
    Left it to history to judge your contribution to Singapore progress and well being.
    Every effort counts.
    All the best to your health.

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  • 2Daft2Live:

    We are neutral, if you have an article praising You Con, we will print it,

    I am neutral too after seeing how the daft voted selfishly and looked only at their immediate concerns. All these decades, they had been short-sighted, easily cowed and petty-minded. So SG deserves to be in the sorry political/economic/social state it is in. It’s not purely the fault of the MIWs….the daft got their parts to play.

    But kudos to all who can see, think and understand the implications and consequences. Unfortunately, there’s only so much we can do. Take care of yourselves, stay healthy and make plans just in case the situation in SG gets worse. Ask your children, nephews, nieces and grand ones to migrate if they have a chance.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Spec Ops
    Same why Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine is historically Russian turf that the west was using as a platform to harass Russia.
    —————————————————————-

    This is the same kind of propaganda shit that I always read in pro-Russia articles especially those from China. All avoided mentioning how Russia annexed Crimea and when other Ukrainian regions like Donbas and Luhansk tried to go independent by courting Russia’s support, Russia seized the opportunity. Ukraine then decided to join NATO to strengthen itself.

    Russia claimed that their security is threatened if Ukraine joins NATO and quickly invaded it. But its other neighbours like Latvia and Estonia also joined NATO in 2004! Why Russia never invade them?

    Putin thought all of Ukraine wanted to go back to Russia and when they surrounded the Ukrainian capital, he naively called all Ukrainian soldiers to surrender and they will not be ill-treated. But Ukrainians showed him the middle finger and fought bravely.

    Many China TicToc users started trumpeting Russia’s invasion, thinking Ukraine will fall in a few days! Sekali after fighting for 42 days, Russia sustained heavy casualties an withdrew, and many China TicToc Russian ass-lickers Chui Tut Lan. Russia then said “change strategy” to save face by concentrating on Eastern Ukraine near the Russian border where they have support from separatists. They now have to depend on long distance artillery shelling, and despite heavily outnumbering the Ukrainians by 20-1 in terms of fire-power, they are still fighting after 4 months when people thought a few days is how long all of Ukraine will fall.

    People call Biden “inefficient” but when Biden kept telling the world that “Russia will invade Ukraine”, many idiots thought Biden was fear-mongering. At last, Biden was proven right. So I also believe what Biden said that “Russia wanted to re-create the old Soviet Union”. Already Putin is warning other former Soviet republics, but if he tries to push the war further from Ukraine, these countries are definitely better prepared than Ukraine, they already learnt their lessons. So it won’t be easy for Putin.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Zhenzidan:
    @Spec Ops
    Same why Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine is historically Russian turf that the west was using as a platform to harass Russia.
    —————————————————————-
    This is the same kind of propaganda shit that I always read in pro-Russia articles especially those from China. All avoided mentioning how Russia annexed Crimea and when other Ukrainian regions like Donbas and Luhansk tried to go independent by courting Russia’s support, Russia seized the opportunity. Ukraine then decided to join NATO to strengthen itself.

    Russia claimed that their security is threatened if Ukraine joins NATO and quickly invaded it. But its other neighbours like Latvia and Estonia also joined NATO in 2004! Why Russia never invade them?

    Putin thought all of Ukraine wanted to go back to Russia and when they surrounded the Ukrainian capital, he naively called all Ukrainian soldiers to surrender and they will not be ill-treated. But Ukrainians showed him the middle finger and fought bravely.

    Many China TicToc users started trumpeting Russia’s invasion, thinking Ukraine will fall in a few days! Sekali after fighting for 42 days, Russia sustained heavy casualties an withdrew, and many China TicToc Russian ass-lickers Chui Tut Lan. Russia then said “change strategy” to save face by concentrating on Eastern Ukraine near the Russian border where they have support from separatists. They now have to depend on long distance artillery shelling, and despite heavily outnumbering the Ukrainians by 20-1 in terms of fire-power, they are still fighting after 4 months when people thought a few days is how long all of Ukraine will fall.

    People call Biden “inefficient” but when Biden kept telling the world that “Russia will invade Ukraine”, many idiots thought Biden was fear-mongering. At last, Biden was proven right. So I also believe what Biden said that “Russia wanted to re-create the old Soviet Union”. Already Putin is warning other former Soviet republics, but if he tries to push the war further from Ukraine, these countries are definitely better prepared than Ukraine, they already learnt their lessons. So it won’t be easy for Putin.

    Now this post is what we call inciting/instigating while hiding far far away in China.

    A pea brain Oppie Singaporean trying to comment on International Politics while hiding in China.

    Dear readers, below is real international news analysis…don’t be canon fodder for Oppie.

    烏克蘭被利用了! 介文汲:一步一步淪為西方工具
    https://bit.ly/3ybN0OY

    Just like Goh Meng Seng, we PAP don’t need any enemy with Oppie pea brain person like you around… hahaha

    ‘You’re Afraid!’: Ukrainian Woman Berates Boris Johnson
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/boris-johnson-berated-by-ukraines-daria-kaleniuk-for-not-stopping-putin

    Democracy, Anyone? America’s Double Standards
    https://bit.ly/3zPOy2n

    Arnab Calls Out US Hypocrisy
    https://shorturl.at/mHU24

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders @Realistically

    I heard the logic that Ukraine used to be part of Soviet Union, so Russia is ok to invade and take back? Then Mahathir logic is also correct, Malaysia can take back Singapore also since we were part of Malay Peninsula and also Chinese were migrants from China.

    Ukraine/Russia wrt Singapore system
    Lets just look at Singapore system, if you are quarreling with someone, the someone strikes you with his fist. When the police come, they take the one who throw the fist isn’t it? The person who striked first may explain to the police because you fuxked his 18th ancestor and wife, he no choice but to strike you, will the police accept his reasoning? So Russia invading Ukraine, can the same reasoning be applied?

    American vs PRC
    To tell you the truth, there is no god in most PRC, all they care is $$$ or power, they dont have conscience. I have been in China long enough to understand how they operate. They do extreme things that most people dont have heart or conscience to do. For example, kidnap children hack their feet to beg or one extreme example is aunt dug eyes of niece to sell. I am Chinese, I am proud that China has advanced and become stronger. But honestly, if I were to choose who to lock up in a cell, I choose American. The reason is American compare to Chinese, they have more conscience and you can reason with them. As for PRC, its top down, no reason… just like what you see in PAPPY.

    People can complain about American being cunt, but look at January 6 Capitol Riot, Mike Pence was asked by Trump to override the election result. But Pence still have his conscience decided not to. Do you think this will happen in China or Singapore?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    idontbelieveinccpbs: I heard the logic that Ukraine used to be part of Soviet Union, so Russia is ok to invade and take back? Then Mahathir logic is also correct, Malaysia can take back Singapore also since we were part of Malay Peninsula and also Chinese were migrants from China.

    Ukraine/Russia wrt Singapore system
    Lets just look at Singapore system, if you are quarreling with someone, the someone strikes you with his fist. When the police come, they take the one who throw the fist isn’t it? The person who striked first may explain to the police because you fuxked his 18th ancestor and wife, he no choice but to strike you, will the police accept his reasoning? So Russia invading Ukraine, can the same reasoning be applied?

    Why not ? Have you not heard of self defence ?
    https://sg.theasianparent.com/self-defence-law-singapore

    If you acted aggressively, be it in words or action, you deserve the same on yourselves.

    Let’s say someone carried an axe and everyday, yes everyday loiter outside your house door. Do you and your family feel safe ?

    Watch this video at 8minutes 56 secs.
    https://bit.ly/39K8bhK

    And looks like the Pope had also been watching/copying the same news analysis as above.

    Watch this video in full and listen to what the Pope said.
    https://bit.ly/3tT47CU

    And of course, our great PAP is not stopid to be such an jackass to everyday fuxked around with Malaysia. It is common sense except Zelensky do not have it.

    Remember to print/distribute and share.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    idontbelieveinccpbs: American vs PRC
    To tell you the truth, there is no god in most PRC, all they care is $$$ or power, they dont have conscience. I have been in China long enough to understand how they operate. They do extreme things that most people dont have heart or conscience to do. For example, kidnap children hack their feet to beg or one extreme example is aunt dug eyes of niece to sell. I am Chinese, I am proud that China has advanced and become stronger. But honestly, if I were to choose who to lock up in a cell, I choose American. The reason is American compare to Chinese, they have more conscience and you can reason with them. As for PRC, its top down, no reason… just like what you see in PAPPY.

    In every society, there will be good and bad and to say Americunts got more conscience???? Hahahahahaha…

    ‘Worst Perpertaors Of Atrocities’: Arnab Reminds U.S Of Committing Multiple Human Rights Violations
    https://bit.ly/3OwxH9c

    ‘America Is The Leading Violator Of International Law’ | Arnab’s Fierce Russia Vs US Debate
    https://bit.ly/3xNLPEf

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    People can complain about American being cunt, but look at January 6 Capitol Riot, Mike Pence was asked by Trump to override the election result. But Pence still have his conscience decided not to. Do you think this will happen in China or Singapore?

    Both cunts, Americunts and Chinacunts are bad and not to be trusted.

    Listen to all sides of story, analyze before jumping into it.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    idontbelieveinccpbs: I am Chinese, I am proud that China has advanced and become stronger.

    Chinese = PRC/ROC

    No, you are not Chinese. You are Singaporean. Be proud of Singapore.

    Don’t confuse yourselves.

    You and I pledge our allegiance to Singapore, not China.

    Be fortunate that you are not Chinese where everything is fake, starting from the President whose degree is fake.
    Read this before you debat.
    https://bit.ly/3twSlOa

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    Now this post is what we call inciting/instigating while hiding far far away in China.

    A pea brain Oppie Singaporean trying to comment on International Politics while hiding in China.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    A real idiot and PAP ass-licker who thinks he very smart. Hiding in China? Don’t make my cock laugh la! When did I say I am in China? And you don’t know China has closed its borders from the beginning of the pandemic until now and foreigners could not travel to China so easily, this one you don’t know meh?

    Inciting /instigating? You know the meaning of these words? I fucked the China TicToc users for blindly glorifying Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, they are like you blindly idolizing LKY! If I am in China you think I no nee to hide also! I just told one China TicToc user “You idolized Putin so much might as well give the whole Tangshan city or the entire Hebei Province to let Putin come and maintain law and order. All of them Chui Tut Lan!

    Who is the real pea brain trying to comment on International Politics? You kept calling the Ukrainian president a comedian who brought his country to war, but Oi! Biden offered him an escape lane to U.S. in case he gets captured by Russian forces but this comedian has chosen to stay behind and fight against the much more powerful and bigger Russia! He even challenged Putin “Come and get me!”. People have balls ok?! Your Dead Godfather LKY?

    Worked for the invading Japanese as a translator! Pui!

    When Malaysian protestors called LKY a “Bastard” he dare not fiack them back but apologized to them! Pui!Pui!

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Your logic
    Why not ? Have you not heard of self defence ?

    Universal logic
    U self defence when people attack u!!!

    Russia attacks Ukraine(unprovoked).

    What a clown… twisting your logic.

    Chinese means Chinese race, idiot….

    You really beyond many.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Your logic
    Why not ? Have you not heard of self defence ?

    Universal logic
    U self defence when people attack u!!!

    Russia attacks Ukraine(unprovoked).

    What a clown… twisting your logic.

    Chinese means Chinese race, idiot….

    You really beyond many.

    That’s right. Self defense? That’s what Ukraine is doing now and the West is providing weapons for Ukraine to defend themselves. But many PRC Putin ass lickers twisted around to call this “West escalating the war”. This”Singaporeans R Free Riders ” is someone who talk through his a$$e and you don’t try to use logic to explain to him. He will twist your logic around. Just fiack him Left and right leisurely will do.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    Let’s say someone carried an axe and everyday, yes everyday loiter outside your house door. Do you and your family feel safe ?
    ______________________________
    Another warped logic that confirms stupidity!
    Ukraine already destroyed their nuclear weapons and were ill-equiped so where the fiack did they “carry an axe”?
    Even if that person is carrying an axe, hello, you have the most advanced weapons and are so much bigger, why cannot feel safe?

    Always like to make my cock laugh!

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  • US very lost:

    NATO’s Poland ‘Open’ to Hosting U.S. Nuclear Weapons
    https://www.newsweek.com/natos-poland-open-hosting-us-nuclear-weapons-1694540

    Shows that you don’t have to own the nuclear weapons in your country.

    An axe need not be a nuclear weapon. US already have many divisions in countries next to Russia.

    Increasing the US military presence in Poland
    https://www.gov.pl/web/national-defence/increasing-the-us-military-presence-in-poland

    When Malaysia have army exercises in Johore, Singapore is worried enough to activate SAF. Malaysia is supposedly a friendly country. Now, consider a openly very unfriendly country.

    Zhenzidan:
    @Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    Let’s say someone carried an axe and everyday, yes everyday loiter outside your house door. Do you and your family feel safe ?
    ______________________________
    Another warped logic that confirms stupidity!
    Ukraine already destroyed their nuclear weapons and were ill-equiped so where the fiack did they “carry an axe”?
    Even if that person is carrying an axe, hello, you have the most advanced weapons and are so much bigger, why cannot feel safe?

    Always like to make my cock laugh!

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  • Zelensky wants to kill us:

    Some stupid idol worshipers of Zelensky. If Zelensky got his way, the world would have ended with nuclear explosions everywhere. He wants US and NATO to fight Russia directly. F*ck him for endangering the entire world. He already destroyed Ukraine, and now he wants to destroy the world.

    99.99% of people would be dead, including these idol worshipers.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    US very lost:
    NATO’s Poland ‘Open’ to Hosting U.S. Nuclear Weapons
    https://www.newsweek.com/natos-poland-open-hosting-us-nuclear-weapons-1694540

    Shows that you don’t have to own the nuclear weapons in your country.

    An axe need not be a nuclear weapon. US already have many divisions in countries next to Russia.

    Increasing the US military presence in Poland
    https://www.gov.pl/web/national-defence/increasing-the-us-military-presence-in-poland

    When Malaysia have army exercises in Johore, Singapore is worried enough to activate SAF. Malaysia is supposedly a friendly country. Now, consider a openly very unfriendly country.

    Like many PRC Putin worshippers, always bringing in US to justify the invasion. Poland joined NATO willingly , so having US troops is their rights. Ukraine wanted to join NATO only after Russia annexed their territory of Crimea. And now other Ukraine regions thought they can court Russia support for independence. Ukraine saw the threat and decided to join NATO. Why dare not talk about this?

    Why compare Singapore and Malaysia? If Singapore is worried only because Malaysia is so many times bigger. But Ukraine is so many times smaller than Russia and very ill-equiped. You tell me Russia really feel scared?

    If Singapore is many times bigger than Malaysia and have more nuclear weapons, you think we should worry? At most we just get prepared. We definitely won’t invade them saying “we feel threatened”.

    Now by invading Ukraine to deter them from joining NATO, it has backfired as now Sweden and Finland also joining NATO. Only fools will believe Putin.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Zelensky wants to kill us:
    Some stupid idol worshipers of Zelensky. If Zelensky got his way, the world would have ended with nuclear explosions everywhere. He wants US and NATO to fight Russia directly. F*ck him for endangering the entire world. He already destroyed Ukraine, and now he wants to destroy the world.

    99.99% of people would be dead, including these idol worshipers.

    These are not stupid worshippers. The stupid ones are those who believe Russia. When they thought they can makan Ukraine easily, at first, Putin said the invasion is to “de-Nazify” Ukraine. After failing to capture the Ukraine capital, they now say “protect Russian-speaking ethnics in Eastern Ukraine.

    If Zelensky wants NATO and Russia to fight directly, he would kpkb at NATO for not sending troops. Instead he openly said “we have to fight our own war” and only asked the West for weapons. He did not run away like the former Afghan president. For this, he deserves respect.

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  • 10,000 or 1 billion years ago:

    //Why not ? Have you not heard of self defence ?
    https://sg.theasianparent.com/self-defence-law-singapore

    If you acted aggressively, be it in words or action, you deserve the same on yourselves.

    Let’s say someone carried an axe and everyday, yes everyday loiter outside your house door. Do you and your family feel safe ?//

    haha. in short hor, what you mean is that whoever got the most powerful and harder knuckles & muscles will prevail lar (all along it is like that since 10,000 or 1 billion years ago hor ???) ??? if words (be it international law or diplomacy whatever bs ??) do not succeed, have the harder knuckles (& be willing to use it ???) will do hor ???

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  • free market and market openess:

    //No, you are not Chinese. You are Singaporean. Be proud of Singapore.

    Don’t confuse yourselves.

    You and I pledge our allegiance to Singapore, not China.//

    aiyoh. all about identity lar that has to be built over many years lar ?? does one think that one can switch on-and-off of whatever one holds dear (his or her preference of what he / she wants to associate with ??) so easily meh ??

    got heard from someone recalling a situation where some FT-converted-to-sinkie in her company saying why must hire sinkiess during a discussion on recruitment for certain position ??? allegiance of course is important lar but if one changes the social compact too fast and loose, one must be dreaming that it will stick firmly lar ??? and if one can change allegiance from one country to another country (by changing sitizensheep ??), what does that tell you lar ??? many countries have become free open market place (capitalism right ???) lar, literally FREE MARKET lar (MARKET OPENESS right ???) ??

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  • NATO has only 40000 soldiers to protect 32 member country.

    When Russia and China tell u NATO is a threat, its a propaganda.

    40000 against 2 million active Russian soldiers?

    Russia intends to take Ukraine
    China intends to take Taiwan

    China said war should not come with sanctions just today!!!! Why?

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    US very lost: When Malaysia have army exercises in Johore, Singapore is worried enough to activate SAF. Malaysia is supposedly a friendly country. Now, consider a openly very unfriendly country.

    Well said.

    Ukraine wanted to join NATO membership so that NATO (US) can deploy their missiles inside Ukraine and within reach of Moscow.

    Yes, NATO (carrying axe) is expanding East wards despite promising Russia not to.

    This guy ZhanZiDan got pea brain and cannot see the event leading up to the war.

    This is what the Pope said after watching https://bit.ly/3I440KJ
    Pope Francis: “Putin is NOT the wolf and NATO is NOT Little Red Riding Hood

    https://pledgetimes.com/pope-francis-putin-is-not-the-wolf-and-nato-is-not-little-red-riding-hood-2/

    Pope francesco returns to the theme of war in Ukraine and unveils sensational backstory about a revealing encounter prior to the invasion of the Russia. “We must move away – Bergoglio explains to the Press – from the normal pattern of ”Little Red Riding Hood“: Little Red Riding Hood was good and the wolf was the bad. There are no metaphysical good and bad here, in an abstract way. Something global is emerging, with elements which are a lot intertwined among them. A couple of months before the war started I met a President, a wise man, who speaks little, very wise indeed. And after I talked about the things he wanted to talk about, he told me he was very worried for how the Born. I asked him why, and he replied: They’re barking at ports of Russia. And they don’t understand that the Russians are imperial and they do not allow any foreign power to come near them. “He concluded:” The situation could lead to war. “This was his opinion. On February 24, the war began. That head of state he knew how to read the signs of what was happening “.

    “Someone – continues the Pope to the Press – can tell me at this point: but she is in favor of Putin! No, they are not. It would be simplistic and wrong to say such a thing. They are simply contrary to reduce complexity to the distinction between good and bad without thinking about roots and interests, which are a lot complex. While we see the ferocity, the cruelty of the Russian troops, we must not forget the problems for try to solve them.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Zhenzidan: When Malaysian protestors called LKY a “Bastard” he dare not fiack them back but apologized to them! Pui!Pui!

    My great master LKY is right.

    LKY, for his love of its people, is wise to cast aside ego and emotion and apologize so that Singapore will not be attacked and its citizens safe when visiting Malaysia, especially those who visit hair salon.

    https://bit.ly/3Ngrz3F

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    Zelensky wants to kill us:
    Some stupid idol worshipers of Zelensky. If Zelensky got his way, the world would have ended with nuclear explosions everywhere. He wants US and NATO to fight Russia directly. F*ck him for endangering the entire world. He already destroyed Ukraine, and now he wants to destroy the world.

    99.99% of people would be dead, including these idol worshipers.

    Zelensky is canon fodder and we had many canon fodder here in TRE.

    ZhanZiDan is lumber one canon fodder, to be used and discarded like soiled underwear.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    NATO is a big threat to Russia? CCP lovers and China and Russia Propaganda would promote.

    FYI the countries surrounding Russia only has a few thousand of troops, there is no way NATO can attack Russia from these border. Estonia, Latvia only less than 5000 and now very worried about Russia invasion!

    The total NATO troop spread thinly across 32 countries is 40,000.

    Russia comprises the world’s fifth-largest military in terms of active-duty personnel, with at least 2 million reserve personnel and 1 million soldiers.

    China has the largest with 2 million active soldiers.

    You think NATO wants to invade Russia with 40,000 soldiers?
    Or NATO wants to fight China?

    Dont believe the propaganda that NATO wants to invade Russia, it is just the excuse for them to invade Ukraine and Taiwan.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    NATO itself cannot invade Russia.

    But NATO with axe (US) is a threat to Russia as it will allow US to place nuclear missile inside Ukraine and deploy US troops.

    In 1962 Americunt was very pissed off and wanted to fight Russia when the former USSR wanted to install missile in Cuba near US.(just 90 miles from U.S. shores)

    https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/cuban-missile-crisis#:~:text=During%20the%20Cuban%20Missile%20Crisis,90%20miles%20from%20U.S.%20shores.

    During the Cuban Missile Crisis, leaders of the U.S. and the Soviet Union engaged in a tense, 13-day political and military standoff in October 1962 over the installation of nuclear-armed Soviet missiles on Cuba, just 90 miles from U.S. shores.

    Idiots don’t read history and now history repeat itself with Ukraine wanting to join NATO with axe (US) and thus allowing US to deploy troops and place nuclear missile …

    Idiots just don’t research, read, learn and analyze.

    I am neither Americunt lover or Chinese Corrupt Party (ccp) lover.

    I am all for Singapore, the land that I serve my NSF.

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  • Singaporeans R Free Riders:

    US very lost: An axe need not be a nuclear weapon. US already have many divisions in countries next to Russia.

    Well said. You are well read.

    Many idiots here don’t research into history, especially 1962 Cuba crisis when USSR wanted to install nuclear missile in Cuba, facing US Florida.

    I am sure you will not be a canon fodder.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders
    Well said.

    Ukraine wanted to join NATO membership so that NATO (US) can deploy their missiles inside Ukraine and within reach of Moscow.

    Yes, NATO (carrying axe) is expanding East wards despite promising Russia not to.

    This guy ZhanZiDan got pea brain and cannot see the event leading up to the war.

    This is what the Pope said after watching https://bit.ly/3I440KJ
    Pope Francis: “Putin is NOT the wolf and NATO is NOT Little Red Riding Hood”
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    Talking thru your a$$e again. That’s why only stupid idiots believe what Putin said about NATO deploying nuclear in Ukraine. If NATO wants to deploy nuclear weapons, they can already do it in Latvia and Estonia who have been NATO members since 2004 and are next to Russia. They no need to wait for Ukraine to join understand?

    NATO promise Russia not to expand but it was the countries that willingly join NATO, so NATO did not break their promise. In fact when Biden claimed that Russia was preparing to invade Ukraine, Putin openly denied. In the end? hahahaha…

    Call Zhenzidan a pea brain but this pea brain knows to how act poor for PAP to disburse $15k during covid and now every month still receiving workfare bonus from PAP and spend it on young meimeis. The TRE Tech could not even raise $50k after months of crowd funding but this amount is chicken feed to pea brain Zhenzidan who has a 6-digit savings, now still working with monthly income! This pea brain is better than the PAP ass-licker who doesn’t even have a brain!

    You quote from the Pope for fiack? What do these religious people know about politics? Just like Dalai Lama who told the West to talk peace with ISIS and not fight with them. But Trump shafted a big cock into his mouth when Trump successfully crippled ISIS in Iraq and Syria and the ISIS head Baghdadi was killed by the “Americunts” you know?

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders: My great master LKY is right.

    LKY, for his love of its people, is wise to cast aside ego and emotion and apologize so that Singapore will not be attacked and its citizens safe when visiting Malaysia, especially those who visit hair salon.

    https://bit.ly/3Ngrz3F

    Love for his people? Hahaha…my cock laughing again. Jailing Chia Thye Poh without trial for 32 years, in the end still cannot prove that the man was guilty. Jailed many innocent people during Operation Coldstore and again cannot prove their guilt. Ask Teo Ser Lung. And he also loved people like JBJ, Tang Liang Hong and CSJ also right?

    After he apologized to the Malaysians who called him “Bastard”, Singaporeans now very safe? Since then no Singaporeans kena robbed? And no Singaporeans kena tricked into going into Malaysia without the stamp on their passport and cannot return to Singapore, but kena detained and must pay fines to the corrupted police . You dare to tell me never happened after the apology?

    I don’t need this kind of leader to love me. I would have been proud if he dared to fiack the Malaysian protestors instead of apologizing. Instead he only dare to bully Singaporeans!

    Even if Zelenksy killed by Russians, his name will go down in history as a comedian turned hero who dare to face up to a much stronger and bigger enemy! Not like LKY who worked for the invading enemy, pui!

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  • Zelensky wants to kill us:

    The level of ignorance shown by the great people here is shocking. NATO has 40,000 soldiers?

    With this kind of ignorance, their opinion is equally shocking. You can’t argue with such people.

    Afternoon@yahoo.com:
    NATO has only 40000 soldiers to protect 32 member country.

    When Russia and China tell u NATO is a threat, its a propaganda.

    40000 against 2 million active Russian soldiers?

    Russia intends to take Ukraine
    China intends to take Taiwan

    China said war should not come with sanctions just today!!!! Why?

    idontbelieveinccpbs: You think NATO wants to invade Russia with 40,000 soldiers?
    Or NATO wants to fight China?

    Dont believe the propaganda that NATO wants to invade Russia, it is just the excuse for them to invade Ukraine and Taiwan.

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  • Very impressive:

    Since it is such a succinct summary of current international situation, it is most appropriate for TRE to escalate it into an individual post for the information of all readers.

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    NATO is a big threat to Russia? CCP lovers and China and Russia Propaganda would promote.

    FYI the countries surrounding Russia only has a few thousand of troops, there is no way NATO can attack Russia from these border. Estonia, Latvia only less than 5000 and now very worried about Russia invasion!

    The total NATO troop spread thinly across 32 countries is 40,000.

    Russia comprises the world’s fifth-largest military in terms of active-duty personnel, with at least 2 million reserve personnel and 1 million soldiers.

    China has the largest with 2 million active soldiers.

    You think NATO wants to invade Russia with 40,000 soldiers?
    Or NATO wants to fight China?

    Dont believe the propaganda that NATO wants to invade Russia, it is just the excuse for them to invade Ukraine and Taiwan.

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  • Oi! Get your facts right first:

    Oi!

    You are extremely biased and blurred!

    NATO has about 30 member states

    The United States of America alone has more than a million active military fighting soldiers.

    Among the member states, three are nuclear armed and have the most nuclear warheads in their arsenal.

    Undoubtedly, they are the strongest military alliance around the globe and the most YAYAPAPAYA Homo sapient the world has ever seen!

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    NATO is a big threat to Russia? CCP lovers and China and Russia Propaganda would promote.

    FYI the countries surrounding Russia only has a few thousand of troops, there is no way NATO can attack Russia from these border. Estonia, Latvia only less than 5000 and now very worried about Russia invasion!

    The total NATO troop spread thinly across 32 countries is 40,000.

    Russia comprises the world’s fifth-largest military in terms of active-duty personnel, with at least 2 million reserve personnel and 1 million soldiers.

    China has the largest with 2 million active soldiers.

    You think NATO wants to invade Russia with 40,000 soldiers?
    Or NATO wants to fight China?

    Dont believe the propaganda that NATO wants to invade Russia, it is just the excuse for them to invade Ukraine and Taiwan.

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  • For those who are following this, TRE is not shutting down immediately, i.e. pressing the servers’ ON/OFF switch.

    Even if TRE eventually decides to shut down for good, it would take a month or two, so nothing to worry about, for now. There are unresolved businesses to settle before a complete shutdown can be initiated.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Singaporeans R Free Riders: Well said. You are well read.

    Many idiots here don’t research into history, especially 1962 Cuba crisis when USSR wanted to install nuclear missile in Cuba, facing US Florida.

    I am sure you will not be a canon fodder.

    The biggest idiots are those who think they know history but don’t know how to interpret. Just because we never mentioned about 1962 missiles in Cuba doesn’t mean we don’t know history. During that time the Cold War was at its most tense situation, and former Soviet leader Chernanko in 1984 even boasted that Soviet missiles can hit U.S. within 10 minutes! Then US President Reagan dismissed that threat.

    USSR “wanted to install missiles in Cuba”? Fuck you man! Soviet missiles were already deployed in Cuba and more on their way to Cuba but was intercepted by U.S.

    But now in Ukraine, the USA haven’t even deployed a single missile. And in fact, Ukraine destroyed their nuclear weapons after breaking off from USSR and has nothing to be able to threaten a much bigger and stronger Russia. Putin is only using that as an excuse to invade Ukraine, idiot!

    And you know something? One PRC Tictoc idiot also used this Cuba example to rebut me, I fucked him back saying “But U.S. never invade Cuba!”

    He answered “Cuba so far away from USA, invade for fiack?”
    I fucked him back “Cuba far away from USA? Your eyes grow on your backside is it? You know how to read the map or not? Cuba is just next to USA separated by only by the Straits of Florida!” That PRC idiot Chui Tut Lan!

    When the USSR disintegrated, former Russian leader Yeltsin still maintained a calm relationship with the West. There were occasional disagreements but hardly any tension until Russia under Putin invaded Ukraine and annexed the Crimea in 2014.

    You want to talk about history no need to go back so far to 1962. Just go back to 2014 when Russia attacked Ukraine and annexed Crimea. Why all your arguments never mentioned this?

    Because this will make you Chui Tut Lan again!

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Singaporeans R Free Riders:
    I am all for Singapore, the land that I serve my NSF.
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    Hahahaha….! Only you served NSF ah? Other people never served ah? If Singapore kena invaded, I bet you will be like your ball-less master LKY, go and work for the invaders! You may even let the invading enemies fiack your own wife and daughter just to save yourself. That one I very sure!

    At least I have a grandfather who was trained for only one week, given a hunting rifle with a few cartons of rounds and sent to Bukit Timah to fight against the Japanese during the war!

    And during my time while training in Taiwan, we also had fights with the Taiwanese gangsters until our CO had to talk to their chief to settle the case.

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  • Singaporean R Free Rider:

    TRE Tech:
    For those who are following this, TRE is not shutting down immediately, i.e. pressing the servers’ ON/OFF switch.

    Even if TRE eventually decides to shut down for good, it would take a month or two, so nothing to worry about, for now. There are unresolved businesses to settle before a complete shutdown can be initiated.

    Great.. now I get to promote my Uni TRE 2.5 Phd to as many people here while good time last..

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  • History, your version:

    Zhenzidan: And you know something? One PRC Tictoc idiot also used this Cuba example to rebut me, I fucked him back saying “But U.S. never invade Cuba!”

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/the-bay-of-pigs
    Before his inauguration, John F. Kennedy was briefed on a plan by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) developed during the Eisenhower administration to train Cuban exiles for an invasion of their homeland. The plan anticipated that the Cuban people and elements of the Cuban military would support the invasion. The ultimate goal was the overthrow of Castro and the establishment of a non-communist government friendly to the United States.

    President Eisenhower approved the program in March 1960. The CIA set up training camps in Guatemala, and by November the operation had trained a small army for an assault landing and guerilla warfare.

    Shortly after his inauguration, in February 1961, President Kennedy authorized the invasion plan. But he was determined to disguise U.S. support.

    The disaster at the Bay of Pigs had a lasting impact on the Kennedy administration. Determined to make up for the failed invasion, the administration initiated Operation Mongoose—a plan to sabotage and destabilize the Cuban government and economy, which included the possibility of assassinating Castro.

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  • xoxo:

    National pride is not the same as personal arrogance.
    Zelensky is putting his nation into complete destruction.
    It is more of arrogance than pride right from the onset?
    This is my humble 2 cents.
    Whose war is it?
    Ukrainians’ or Zelensky’s, who, is being used of ?
    Sad.
    Putin may be a neighbourhood bully.
    But things are not as straight-forward as made up to be?
    I hope somehow this conflict end soon.
    Wisdom is much needed.
    And,wisdom can only come from Humility.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    History, your version: https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/the-bay-of-pigs
    Before his inauguration, John F. Kennedy was briefed on a plan by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) developed during the Eisenhower administration to train Cuban exiles for an invasion of their homeland. The plan anticipated that the Cuban people and elements of the Cuban military would support the invasion. The ultimate goal was the overthrow of Castro and the establishment of a non-communist government friendly to the United States.

    President Eisenhower approved the program in March 1960. The CIA set up training camps in Guatemala, and by November the operation had trained a small army for an assault landing and guerilla warfare.

    Shortly after his inauguration, in February 1961, President Kennedy authorized the invasion plan. But he was determined to disguise U.S. support.

    The disaster at the Bay of Pigs had a lasting impact on the Kennedy administration. Determined to make up for the failed invasion, the administration initiated Operation Mongoose—a plan to sabotage and destabilize the Cuban government and economy, which included the possibility of assassinating Castro.

    If that China Tictoc idiot has used this to rebut me, I would have respected him. Not when he said “Cuba too far away for USA to invade.”

    Anyway, I said “USA never invade”. I never said USA “never wanted to invade”. There is a slight difference. I read this version, the Bay of Pigs wasn’t a full scale invasion like what Russia is doing to Ukraine now. In fact they never ruled out a full-scale invasion, until the then Soviet leader and the US then president reached an agreement on Soviet stop sending missiles to Cuba.

    And many idiots who tried to justify Russia’s invasion kept evading talking about Russia’s annexation of the Ukrainian region, Crimea.

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