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Repeal of Section 377A of the Penal Code

The news that the government will repeal Section 377A of the Penal Code that criminalise sex between men was widely splashed and published in the papers and online news.

Support for or against the decision and whether that decision is rightly or wrongly a decision is both emotional and difficult to judge for certain and the answer one gets really depends on who one talks to. Lhl told his NDR speech audience that his government will debate it in Parliament.

I want to share a few of my thoughts.

I ask shouldn’t this matter be firstly discussed in Parliament before a decision is made? Seriously, what is the point of going to debate it in Parliament when a decision has alearly been made? To put it bluntly, isn’t doing so an orchestrated wayang, a joke, an outright wastage of our parliamentary time and resources?

Shouldn’t our parliamentary debates serve more serious purposes and be taken more seriously than mere wayang, going through the motion and our Parliament serves as mere rubber stamp for the pap government’s agendas?

Next, to many, repealing Section 377A of the Penal Code is more a heart rather than a head or intellectual issue. I would like to strongly call upon the pap government to lift the party whip after its so called ‘parliamentary debates’ on this issue to enable all MPs to cast their votes according to their consciencs instead of meekly toeing party line and meekly nodding in agreement.

Think.

 

Simon Lim

 

 

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22 Responses to “Repeal of Section 377A of the Penal Code”

  • sImOn:

    It’s the correct procedure. Cabinet (including PM) say they want a new law. Then the new law will be sent to Parliament for debate and vote to see if the new law gets through.

    If the Cabinet doesn’t decide anything, the Parliament has no new law to vote. This assumes MPs not motivated to propose new laws.

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  • Sad state of affairs:

    SG Parliament is like PAP’s circus stage.
    They make the rules for and against the people…on everything concerning peoples lives in SG.
    Worse than a nanny state. More like communist state.
    Control and brainwashing of trublus for more than 5decades.
    Even the opp parties cant do a thing but wayang too on that stage.

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  • Sporeans Keep Govt Employed:

    https://mothership.sg/2022/08/religious-social-groups-377a-responsess

    Of all the responses from the various religions, the most positive one came from the Hindus.

    Protestant churches lost another opportunity to save more souls for Jesus by throwing the baby out with the bath water. Chruches worldwide face declining attendance for their prejudice and ignorance. And churches contain some of the most status conscious and snobbish people around.

    Many other factors cause divorce.

    1) Adultery. Keeping Xiao san. Little 3.
    2) Fornication.
    3) Greed and avarice. Always demanding more money from spouse.
    4) Self centerness. Ask waht your spouse can do for you while you offer nothing much.

    Chruches use gay people as a convenientscapegoat for the breakdown of family.

    The bible did say, Matthew 7:3
    And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own?

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  • xoxo:

    There is a thin line between gay and regular(normal).
    It is compassionate and right NOT TO DISCRIMINATE the *real* cases of gay who are biogically born with such *make-up*.
    But it is altogether another thing when normal married men go astray and try gay sex just for the *novelty* n SEX-citement.
    Just like DRUG ADDICTION,GAY SEX CAN BECOME AN *OPIUM* for fun-seeking men .

    If God created man and woman,He has a PURPOSE.
    He told them to go forth and multiply.
    In the REGULAR SCHEME of things,even animals and birds and insects GENERALLY(mostly) reproduce by male-female intercourse,one way or another,except for a FEW instances.
    MALE-MALE OR FEMALE-FEMALE sexual reproduction is not the norm among humans amd other living things.

    We do not discriminate gays or lesbians but try to be compassionate but society must must not be veered,one way or another,into thinking such is the NORM N *NATURAL*.

    We are all *sinners* in some ways as we are not perfect; we err.
    Erring is normal but lack of repentance (introspection)may be a problem,both for the individuals and the larger society.

    PS: Touch your hearts.
    Look at angmohs,look at Hollywood.

    Do Asians want to go down the same way?

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  • nathan chen:

    Good morning, Minister of Education, Mr Chan Chung Sing.

    Sex between male homosexual is disgusting and ugly. Pure lust. Image a beefy homo with beards bending over for his much smaller partner to penetrate him from behind. Pui. With the female version at least there is loving tenderness.

    However, not all homosexuals are promiscuous. There are same-sex couples who stick strictly to one partner. Professional in their own rights, law abiding responsible, and taxpayers and very low-key in whatever they do and said.

    The LGBTQ in Singapore are fellow humans being too. They have their own aspirations and outlook on life. They, too, want a happy and peaceful.

    The Ministry of Education should not pretend that the LBGTQ do not exist in Singapore. Or try to overprotect students by making the LBGTQ a taboo subjects in schools. The LGBTO issue should be included in the school learning curriculum. Teachers should be able to explain to school going children why some are born very different from others, reduced to the simplest logical terms.

    Minister Chan Chun Sing, do not overkill on the LGBTO issue. Neither should it be avoided like a plague in school.

    Ah Chan, thank you for your indulgence. When you become the PM, don’t forget me.

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  • Sporeans Keep Govt Employed:

    No one can force a horse to drink if it does not wan to.

    Men who aren’t interetsed in other men are not inclined to try it anyway. More likely he has women on the side.

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    When shim&him are closet gays Simon what do you say..
    Whip your spouces before sex

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  • theforgottongeneration:

    “…. shouldn’t this matter be firstly discussed in Parliament before a decision is made? Seriously, what is the point of going to debate it in Parliament when a decision has alearly been made?…”

    ———–

    Dear Simon, this is the lan-cheow standards of the current pappies under Loong. Conventionally, ppl will wipe their ass, then put on underwear before wearing pants. Pappies standards is wear pants, then put on underwear before wiping their ass. Million$ clowns indeed.

    This sudden decision to repeal 377a is just for political points for Loong’s empty trophy cabinet after 18+ years of mediocre free riding on daddy’s reputation. My take is there will be a small “win” for both left and right wings (in their own ways), but the actual impact(s) will have to be seen, aka sincerity on all parties. After all, any shit that comes out of this change will be LW’s problem, not LHL’s.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Not anti nor pro but ….

    China a few emperors rumoured to be gay.

    E.g. 漢文帝 and 鄧通.

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  • Sporeans Keep Govt Employed:

    nathan chen:
    Good morning, Minister of Education, Mr Chan Chung Sing.

    Sex between male homosexual is disgusting and ugly. Pure lust. Image a beefy homo with beards bending over for his much smaller partner to penetrate him from behind. Pui. With the female version at least there is loving tenderness.

    Oh really. Ask the women,, they find sex with men ugly too.

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  • freak of nature:

    Debate is not in pap’s dictionary…parliament is just mass masturbation…whip is actually the vibrator…pap only knows how to do it in one way – top down

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  • Jokers:

    All you sex crazed people listen here.
    1. Sex must have “loving tenderness.” Cannot just ram and f**k off. Foreplay and afterplay compulsory for at least half an hour.
    2. Shave and slim down. Cannot be “beefy” with beards.
    3. Cannot penetrate from behind, even for “normal” “orthodox” sex.
    4. You, your partner must be “professionals”. Sex professionals maybe count also. Non-professionals cannot have sex.
    5. Must pay tax. Show tax receipts. Else no entry anywhere.
    6. Must be very low key in whatever you do and say. That makes TRE posters and commenters unqualified for sex!

    nathan chen: Sex between male homosexual is disgusting and ugly. Pure lust. Image a beefy homo with beards bending over for his much smaller partner to penetrate him from behind. Pui. With the female version at least there is loving tenderness.

    However, not all homosexuals are promiscuous. There are same-sex couples who stick strictly to one partner. Professional in their own rights, law abiding responsible, and taxpayers and very low-key in whatever they do and said.

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  • Take care:

    Spreading rumours about the departed. 7th month not over yet.

    PAP mandate strong:
    Not anti nor pro but ….

    China a few emperors rumoured to be gay.

    E.g. 漢文帝 and 鄧通.

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  • panyusg:

    Why not amend the Constitution to ban prostitution? To ban pre-marital sex? To ban oral sex? Or swallowing the “juices”?

    Singapore cannot impose upon people on what not to do with sex. Fornication with animals is forbidden. But otherwise, it is up to Nature and Nurture.

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  • Sporeans Keep Govt Employed:

    xoxo:
    There is a thin line between gay and regular(normal).
    It is compassionate and right NOT TO DISCRIMINATE the *real* cases of gay who are biogically born with such *make-up*.
    But it is altogether another thing when normal married men go astray and try gay sex just for the *novelty* n SEX-citement.
    Just like DRUG ADDICTION,GAY SEX CAN BECOME AN *OPIUM* for fun-seeking men .

    We do not discriminate gays or lesbians but try to be compassionate but society must must not be veered,one way or another,into thinking such is the NORM N *NATURAL*.

    nathan chen:
    Good morning, Minister of Education, Mr Chan Chung Sing.

    Sex between male homosexual is disgusting and ugly. Pure lust. Image a beefy homo with beards bending over for his much smaller partner to penetrate him from behind. Pui. With the female version at least there is loving tenderness.

    Ha ha ha!

    Men don’t lust after women?
    Women don’t lust after gold, jewellry, handbags, shoes, clothing?

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  • xoxo:

    Hey,how many LGBTQ sgs are there in $in City?
    Maybe 250K?
    And,you consent to repeal 377A .
    And,how MANY sgs are there who prefer SMC voting system and want the G to *REPEAL* (remove) GRC which is unfair n unmeritocratic practice as is already obvious when failed candidates get into parliament by standing in a PAP STRONGHOLD after being REJECTED in another more *neutral* ward?

    As much as G agrees to LBGTQ’s demands,we,sgs of the 40 pct camp n others,demand G to *REPEAL* GRC.

    WILL THE G,BASED ON THE SAME SAID REASONS GIVEN FOR REPEALING 377A ,ALSO REMOVE GRC?
    And,this demand is from a bigger number of sgs.

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  • Harder Truths:

    So $inkieland is allowing men to legally have anal sex. Big deal. Let’s move on.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ Take care

    https://kknews.cc/history/4px8vbx.html
    史上第一个同性恋的皇帝,也是最凌乱的一个王朝

    Maybe you watch too many China produced 政治正確 historical drama ( which is do away all the negative sides ) or you simply just cannot accept it.

    Anyway I doubt people like you really know China.

    唐太宗 first son same thing.

    https://k.sina.cn/article_7498431686_1bef0fcc600100z922.html?from=history
    唐太宗的嫡长子太子李承乾因何被废 不是好男风 也不是逼宫

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  • Take care:

    “Not anti nor pro”. You are definitely pro-gay. Support yourself with highest level examples.

    7th month still not over yet. Take care.

    PAP mandate strong:
    Not anti nor pro but ….

    China a few emperors rumoured to be gay.

    E.g. 漢文帝 and 鄧通.

    PAP mandate strong:
    @ Take care

    https://kknews.cc/history/4px8vbx.html
    史上第一个同性恋的皇帝,也是最凌乱的一个王朝

    Maybe you watch too many China produced 政治正確 historical drama ( which is do away all the negative sides ) or you simply just cannot accept it.

    Anyway I doubt people like you really know China.

    唐太宗 first son same thing.

    https://k.sina.cn/article_7498431686_1bef0fcc600100z922.html?from=history
    唐太宗的嫡长子太子李承乾因何被废 不是好男风 也不是逼宫

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Hahaha.

    What happen to your pro china saying chinese must support china ?
    What happen to your Pro CCP 不信鬼神 ?

    就算中國形象破滅, 也不用歇斯底里
    dont freak out.

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  • Take care:

    You didn’t manage to escape the last day. Better pour some puppy urine and chicken blood over yourself.

    PAP mandate strong:
    Hahaha.

    What happen to your pro china saying chinese must support china ?
    What happen to your Pro CCP 不信鬼神 ?

    就算中國形象破滅, 也不用歇斯底里
    dont freak out.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    Still here.
    I should be the very least of your worries.

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