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This says a lot about the effectiveness of the vaccine

Health minister Ong Ye Kung says that re-infection cases makes up 5.5% of Covid cases this month. (ST 25/8/22)
This means that the remaining 94.5% are first time infections.

Given that 70% of the population has already been infected, and yet they make up only 5.5% of infections, shows that immunity conferred by previous infection is very strong.

In fact, Mr Ong says that data has shown that the probability of reinfection eight months after the first infection is still very low – at around 5% – compared with someone who has not been infected before.

Almost all the people who were infected this month have been vaccinated, given our very high vaccination rate, and yet immunity did not come from vaccination, but previous infection.

This says a lot about the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Many people I know take their booster not in the knowledge that it will boost their immunity, but rather that they want to keep their vaccinated status.

That vaccination does not confer immunity was clear as early as mid 2021 when only a portion of the population was vaccinated.

At that time, MOH was still publishing data of daily infections classified by vaccination status. One could therefore calculate the infection rates in the vaccinated and the unvaccinated populations. The data clearly showed that the infection rates were not very different, meaning the probability of getting infected was no different whether one was vaccinated or not. In other words, the vaccine was hopeless in conferring immunity.

Shortly thereafter, MOH stopped publishing the data by vaccination status. The narrative of the vaccine then changed from conferring immunity to reducing severity of symptoms and probability of death.

The new narrative was difficult to prove or disprove in real life due to confounding factors. To prove that, one has to neutralize all confounding factors as in the Phase 3 trials of the vaccine, but that was never done. In any case, the new narrative was enough to scare people into taking the vaccine.

There is a cost to vaccinating and boosting the population. Besides the financial cost, there is the risk of side effects, including death, and unknown long term side effects.

Mr Ong intends to vaccinate babies, boost children and teenagers, and make adults take a second booster.

Given the mildness of the disease and the very low death rate on the one hand, and the ineffectiveness of the vaccine in conferring immunity but ironically depends on previous infection to do that, on the other hand, how does Mr Ong square the costs and the benefits of the vaccine?

 

Foong Swee Fong

 

 

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23 Responses to “This says a lot about the effectiveness of the vaccine”

  • panyusg:

    The discussion should about how many will die from vaccine adverse effects. There are many websites in USA with names, pictures and accounts about those who died, many of them below age 60, in the working age group.

    This includes many doctors who should have known better.

    Includes over 1,000 very fit athletes who died during sports.

    https://expose-news.com/2022/08/26/254million-vaccine-refuseniks-usa-uk/

    USA has 340 million people. Even if 20% die or are crippled by disease, they have 270 million to carry on…a huge safety net.

    Singapore with 5.5 million cannot afford a 20% death / injury rate i.e. 1.1 million. This will have a drastic impact on the economy, on the services provided for the country, perhaps even for the defence of the nation.

    Dr. Judy Mikovits, a researcher on incurable prion diseases, predicted 50 million Americans will die i.e. 15%. Others predict from 20% to 30% of those vaxxed will die.

    People have died from even one dose of the vaccine. It is impossible that Singapore is a superior race with zero deaths and injuries from the vaccines.

    The key question: How much will Singapore be affected and if so, to what extent will it impact the economy?

    Time will tell and 2023 should show some data. I have been wondering who are those that fill up to 90% of the beds in public hospitals. Surely not all are the very elderly with co-morbitidies. Most elderly prefer to die at home if their conditions are untreatable.

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  • Time will tell:

    Quite logical. The case for compulsory Vaccine is not so strong now.
    Vaccine seem not able to do its main job…ie to prevent infection.
    Time will tell the real effect and benefits of the Vaccine.
    Hope the result is not so bad….and worth it.

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  • Paul Angel:

    This government, as opaque as always, will never and can never come out and say it straight – this person died because of the vaccine. Why? Because the minute they say it, nobody but nobody will get the vaccine!

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  • Spec Ops:

    Let’s say it like it is.

    The Vax ID that was used to surveil everyone, enforce vax Apartheid laws ( still on-going) and keep un-injected out of jobs, on top of an year long psychological terrorism campaign of daily ‘CooF death numbers’, made up fear of death of a highly survivable flu virus and hard lockdowns forcing abusive relatives together and denying children the right to play;

    was all about pushing the population onto an untested, experimental, rushed injection (where all test animals died) that does nothing to improve immunity,but was offered up as the gateway to ‘getting one’s life back’ (New Zealand PM Ardern who once stood up in the UN talking about ‘kindness’).

    Here’s the real issue. Those who took mRNA shots have their DNA modified as this spread throughout the body. In doing so, not only they gave their bodies away to Pfizer and the governments, they also removed the genetic connections to their ancestors. Especially in a culture where ancestor worship is important.

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  • Spec Ops:

    Time will tell:
    Quite logical. The case for compulsory Vaccine is not so strong now.
    Vaccine seem not able to do its main job…ie to prevent infection.
    Time will tell the real effect and benefits of the Vaccine.
    Hope the result is not so bad….and worth it.

    There was never a case for compulsory vaccines forced against a person’s right on what goes in his body.

    And those who pushed for it, they will be hunted down and given the same punishment as appropriate for crimes against humanity and high treason.

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  • Emerging Data:

    go to rumble site and check out ‘Uniform Consent’ Documentary – a wealth of information put together by respected medical professionals like Peter McCullough, Dr Charles Hoffe Dr Bryam Bridle & Dr Robert Malone etc. Was censored by the Big Pharma machinery.

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  • Emerging Data:

    Sorry, it is titled ‘Uninformed Consent’

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  • maluite:

    People should stop believing the bullshit of low vaccine’s death. I know of actual cases where people taking 3rd jabs died within a month, and yet the conclusion is always death due to underlying medical condition, so convenient and so coincidence, no wonder the government shut down online citizen.

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  • opposition dude:

    They already mentioned a few days ago that they are looking into the boosters. Since most people took their first booster when it was still spreading rapidly roughly around October 2021 until May 2022 or so then they will see if this lot need to be boosted again.

    No need to worry even if your status changes back to unvaccinated since the ambassadors are all but extinct and so called “spot checks” will be done but I have never seen anyone do it. Just go out and have makan whenever you want to lah, this is endemic anyway. And if you do kena the virus go see your doctor and take the pills available.

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  • Paul Angel:

    Why on earth is there so much debate and disagreement about the Covid vaccine? Why is there so much doubt, reservation and questions about it’s safety? If the vaccine (a misnomer by the way) is genuinely safe and effective, none of this debate would even take place. Does anyone question or debate about the effectiveness of condoms? No because it prevents pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. Do people argue that cars are unsafe and shouldn’t be driven? No because they are safe and a great way to travel. But this experimental vaccine is full of controversy, whether you defend it or attack it, because it has not proven itself.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    Dear FSF,

    You have been listening too much of the B-the-S from that Clowns of MTF & MOH on those “vaxxines” vs natural immunity lah. LOL.

    Its been known for many months, that the supposed ‘Cure’ (from Xperimental mRNA Jabs) is WORSE than the Disease. LOL.

    For those with the inclination to read long medical papers, the links are given in the videos below, showing clearly that natural immunity is far more robust & reliable that any artificial “vaxxine”.

    Y can just watch this DrBeen who is quite impartial (note that he himself has admitted he has taken the jabs due to his job) but he still goes on the record to say Natural Immunity is far better based on FACTS & DATA from published medical studies.

    SSS Sinkies have been totally FOOLed hook, line & sinker, but they will still defend their PAPies & MOH, because they don’t want to look STUPID… even thought they definitely are. Yes?/No? LOL.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwtXigq9GO8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyYq93YtScE

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  • xoxo:

    The need for quick booster jab and re-boosters tells it all.
    Only BIG IDIOT$ can see.
    Whats wrong with collecting more money?
    Even Sg’s govt does it.
    And,you die,your business?

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  • uglytruth:

    1. Why do I see people peddling conspiracy sites as their source in comments. TRM moderators please do you due diligence.

    2. Effectiveness of the vaccine to prevent infection for the newer variant is published and repeated in EACH of the covid briefings. The strategy is to slow down mass infections, not eliminate them. Only way to totally get 0 cases is lock down (something else for you to complain about)

    3. I say before and I say again. TRM, do your due diligence. TRM is beginning to look like a conspiracy channel.

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  • @uglytruth

    Who decides whether a site is a “conspiracy site”, the MTF, Google or Facebook? A PhD at MTF is a doctorate, those PhDs from MIT on these sites are all bought from degree mills?

    One commonsense question for you. It is a known FACT that the vaccine does NOT prevent infection ABSOLUTELY, so pray tell how is something that is completely ineffective in preventing an infection even remotely possible of slowing down “mass infection”? And while we are at it, how about the damage to the heart, change to the DNA and etc etc etc etc, another benefits outweigh the risk bull of a shit to excuse all that?

    And before you start accusing me of reading from “conspiracy sites”, let me tell you that I have been following that FOIA trial in the US very closely and I do read all the documents that were released. I do not need to be a rocket scientist to derive from Pfizer and FDA’s own admission that the information they initially provided to the public on mRNA vaccines are mostly doctored, massaged and mostly faked.

    So, I suggest you go read the court-ordered exposed by Pfizer and FDA, to update yourself on the knowledge of these fake mRNA vaccines.

    If I may, if you are looking to read sugarcoated news on how the mRNA vaccines can boost your libido, prolong your life and make you rich, then I suggest you go read the MSM. At TRE, it’s all about the ‘hard truth’ and most new readers like yourself mostly cannot even survive a week here and will find it extremely exhausting to hold a decent discussion on the topics discussed here. TRE received more than a million hits per month, but you see little comments here because the standard of discussion here is ‘beyond most’s paygrade’. lol

    BUT that does not mean that we do not welcome your input, even dissenting views, we do. Just be prepared to be questioned and challenged if other readers do not agree with you. That’s how we learn from each other, instead of constantly swallowing one-sided views from some affiliated, associated and party-connected sites.

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  • panyusg:

    It is proven by scientists via microscope images that the blood is badly damaged by the vaccines…

    - Normal red blood cells are donut shape, float in the blood and are separate from each other.

    - Post injection, many red blood cells are rectangular or distorted shape, clumped together, no longer able to carry oxygen. Graphene pieces that are sharp as razor are seen…these join up to for very large pieces with more graphene particles inside.

    A recent German study reveals more alarming data..
    https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/alarming-new-report-from-working

    The panel of experts at MOH are invited to contact these overseas experts for discussion.

    The future for Singapore can be dire…damage blood cannot be replaced that quickly. The vaxxed will get sick and many may die.

    The time for denial…Vaccines are Safe…is over.

    Experts must debate with Experts..not with us. POFMA is simply a crude weapon to silence the deep concerns that many have.

    Tech: No mind me saying, but since post-LKY’s time, no politician nor any public servant, experts, etc dare venture out of their comfort zone to challenge or debate anything. As long as they are on the tiny island, they can cook all the bull of a shit they want and they are protected, venture outside, what you have are PhDs made of glass and grass. Bringing along their 1-0-year-series won’t help. lol

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  • panyusg:

    TRE Tech:
    @uglytruth

    If I may, if you are looking to read sugarcoated news on how the mRNA vaccines can boost your libido, prolong your life and make you rich, then I suggest you go read the MSM. At TRE, it’s all about the ‘hard truth’ and most new readers like yourself mostly cannot even survive a week here and will find it extremely exhausting to hold a decent discussion on the topics discussed here. TRE received more than a million hits per month, but you see little comments here because the standard of discussion here is ‘beyond most’s paygrade’. lol

    BUT that does not mean that we do not welcome your input, even dissenting views, we do. Just be prepared to be questioned and challenged if other readers do not agree with you. That’s how we learn from each other, instead of constantly swallowing one-sided views from some affiliated, associated and party-connected sites.

    The vaccines cause great harm. It is a matter of time when the harm will manifest via serious illness and deaths.

    Singapore does not have a safety net of a large unvaxxed population. USA has over 150 million who will survive a Covid genocide…not Singapore.

    It is about Nature vs Singapore. We can continue to proclaim..Vaccines are Safe…until Mother Nature delivers its verdict.

    To me, the very survival of Singapore is at stake. MOH experts are welcomed to debate with overseas experts. Here is a recent German study..

    https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/p/alarming-new-report-from-working

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  • panyusg:

    uglytruth:
    1. Why do I see people peddling conspiracy sites as their source in comments. TRM moderators please do you due diligence.

    2. Effectiveness of the vaccine to prevent infection for the newer variant is published and repeated in EACH of the covid briefings. The strategy is to slow down mass infections, not eliminate them. Only way to totally get 0 cases is lock down (something else for you to complain about)

    3. I say before and I say again. TRM, do your due diligence. TRM is beginning to look like a conspiracy channel.

    Are you prepared for the Real Ugly Truth? I have dozens of websites from USA mainly that investigates the harm done by vaccines.

    I have a website with names, pictures, ages of those who have suffered, who have died. Many who died are doctors, are teenagers, are young.

    I have websites that show fathers weeping bitterly over the sudden deaths of their healthy teenage sons after the jabs.

    I can go on. I have challenged MOH to have a public forum, to bring in live, overseas experts who can present their views. Why are experts not debating with experts?

    Dr. Ryan Cole has examined over 500,000 patients via his microscope. He is a pathologist and he is seeing a sharp spike in cancers.

    I have spent months reading intensively including scientific reports. I am much more knowledgeable on how and why the vaccines can cause such harm. It requires effort to be educated.

    It is easy to be guillable…Vaccines are Safe. Go ahead and get all the jabs..it is your life, your choice. Just remember..the day you regret means it is too late to reverse your decision.

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  • @panyusg

    I think if the so-called 10-year-series experts in MTF were to really partake in a debate with the other experts from around the world, I don’t think these clowns would even understand what the real experts are talking about.

    These world experts would have to kelong these clowns by talking only on subjects that are covered in the 10-year-series. lol

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  • James Lee:

    Given how SG were managed by the uncaring PAP elites and their cronies over the past few decades,whatever trusts that remain have all but gone.All true blue SG should realize something is not right.Act before it’s too late.

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  • Spineless Sinkie Syndrome:

    uglytruth:
    1. Why do I see people peddling conspiracy sites as their source in comments. TRM moderators please do you due diligence.

    2. Effectiveness of the vaccine to prevent infection for the newer variant is published and repeated in EACH of the covid briefings. The strategy is to slow down mass infections, not eliminate them. Only way to totally get 0 cases is lock down (something else for you to complain about)

    3. I say before and I say again. TRM, do your due diligence. TRM is beginning to look like a conspiracy channel.

    @uglytruth, here’s some real UGLY TRUTH for you lah.
    This one is from an Australian doctor. More & more brave doctors now coming out liao.
    So you think these doctors are part of conspiracy too? (even though nowadays conspiracies are mostly delayed Truths. LOL)

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZL1WUcqu7Hwp/

    Also, your point 1) is “fake news”. Many have given source DATA, including myself, from peer-reviewed clinical studies. Of course, people like you “act blur” and pretend you never see/read them. Yes?/No? LOL.
    If you respond to my rebutall, I can also send you many weblinks to those medical papers that proves those “Xperimental mRNA Jabs” are NEITHER safe nor effective, ok? LOL.

    Your point 2) is hogwash. Please SHOW your SOURCE of those “covid briefings” that you make saying “Effectiveness of the vaccine to prevent infection for the newer variant is published and repeated in EACH of the covid briefings.”

    You so fast forget alleady ah??
    Remember initially, the authorities claim these:
    a) the “vaxxines” will prevent infection & spread ?
    b) next, after DATA show it does NOT prevent infection & spread, then they walk-backed their statements and said, it will “help to prevent serious illness if infected”??
    c) then now, your Sinkie D0Cs all keep silent and “act blur” when large % of those who got serious illness from Covid, are actually those “fully jabbed”!
    LOL.

    Your point 2) is same nonsense as point 1), and it sounds like a veiled “threat” to TRE izzit? LOL.

    I DARE YOU, Go and “comprain” to your PAPies lah & get them to shutdown this TRE website or POFMA this website like they have done to so many others lah. LOL.

    Why U so CARING and CONCERNED for Sinkies that they might read this unknown website and find out the TRUTH / LIES? LOL. You so good citizen hor?? Must “protect” Sinkies like they are your little children izit?
    U so concerned for Sinkies minds & fear for them that they will get “infected” by the TRUTH… imean your so-called “conspiracy ideas” izzit? LOL.

    Have a good weekend “uglyturd” ok? LOL.

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  • panyusg:

    The Covid jabs can kill…
    https://www.brighteon.com/48042616-e0a4-4e2a-9404-a38cde2113e6

    I firmly refuse the jabs. 2.5 years of Covid and I did not even have a flu. I have full confidence in my natural immune system.

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  • Monkeypox:

    But.. but.. as you know, SDP Professor Paul Tambyah
    who has been elected President-Elect of the International Society of Infectious Diseases (ISID)’s Executive Committee is very supportive of this mRNA vaccine.

    I just don’t know what to say.

    Tech: Yes, he is a staunch supporter of the vaccine from the onset (even to this day). He even went on social media to encourage the daft to go for vaccination. I wonder what he would say after some time when vaccine science finds that the mRNA vaccine is all but a farce and get rich quick scheme concocted by the pharmas (ref court-ordered expose on Pfizer and FDA, add CDC’s own admission that they were wrong).

    However, in all fairness, ALL the opposition parties (except of GMS’s) are staunch supporters of the vaccine mandate.

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    Debate…human nature to prove individual brilliance??? Or Art of The Con???…plagues will come take its toll n move on till the next arrive since time memorial “Live with it” all else is BULLSHIT!!!

    Paul Angel:
    Why on earth is there so much debate and disagreement about the Covid vaccine? Why is there so much doubt, reservation and questions about it’s safety? If the vaccine (a misnomer by the way) is genuinely safe and effective, none of this debate would even take place. Does anyone question or debate about the effectiveness of condoms? No because it prevents pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. Do people argue that cars are unsafe and shouldn’t be driven? No because they are safe and a great way to travel. But this experimental vaccine is full of controversy, whether you defend it or attack it, because it has not proven itself.

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