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There is no IF in history but only the state of reality and facts

The Era of Colonialism might have brought prosperity to many colonial regime but the basic tenets of it is plunder and exploitation of resources.

Yes, it might have been the start of global trade but ancient trade has always been in place between different civilizations via trade routes or silk routes.

Colonialism has killed and enslaved millions over the centuries. We should not pretend that these were not the results of pure greed.

In North and South America alone, millions of indigenous people were killed by the colonists either through force or simply the flu virus brought over.

Of course, the slave trade of Africans to America would have been considered the worse breach of human rights in modern standards.

The Western Media has successfully whitewashed all these past deeds over the last century. When I was young I used to watch cowboy shows and really thought those Red Indians were really the bad guys! And those Mexican rebels are bad guys as well!

But the Reality is totally different.

The irony is, after US has successfully gained independence by winning the bloody war, the new Independent Republic was totally under control by the white ex-Europeans while Slave trade continued!

It was through subsequent civil wars whereby African slaves were liberated.

However, on the other hand, US became a colonial master itself by taking over Philippines from Spain!

US has a few more colonies beside Philippines, they are Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, Hawaii, Wake. Only Philippines gained independence from US while the others are still considered as colonies of US up till this date!

When the Japanese started the war against US, they hit not only Pearl Habour but other colonies of US as well.

Let’s not kid ourselves that US are still holding these colonies to bring prosperity to the people there. The main reason is to hold on to these colonies for strategic purposes!

Oh, they no longer call these “colonies” but “territories which are unorganized and unincorporated belonging to, but not a part of, the United States”.

Of course the nature of such continual occupation and colonialization has changed over the years, with no more slave trade and exploitation.

The greatest strength of Western Culture is its ability of self critiques and make amends to past wrongs in history which I considered as cultural conscience.

However to attempt to whitewash the dark ages of past Colonialism by giving some over glorified reasons that we “benefited” from such colonialism and the result of our current prosperity is the result of such colonialism is a total insult to the millions of people who had been exploited, killed and enslaved by colonial rule!

Please bear in mind that not every past colonies have prospered after colonial rule. African countries are fine examples.

Singapore’s current prosperity is due to our strategic geographical location as well as our people. Malacca and Penang were British Crown Colonies but did they prosper like us?

Singapore continued to prosper because we are the Hub of Southeast Asia and our geographical strategic position in the midst of sea trade between Asia and Europe.

Due to this strategic location, Singapore was already a bustling trading port before Raffles colonialized it! (Yeah, not just some small fishing village).

We might have inherited certain infrastructure advantage from the British but I see it as gross exaggeration of glorification of British Colonial rule while ignoring the fundamental nature of greed and fundamental motive of Colonialism.

 

Goh Meng Seng

 

 

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21 Responses to “There is no IF in history but only the state of reality and facts”

  • xoxo:

    Lets just admit WHITE SUPREMACY existed and still exists,can we deny?
    Who are the peoples who silently let this be the case?

    Non-whites of ALL descents are to blame.
    Even now,angmohricunts trying to make use of TAIWAN against China,its quite obvious.
    Might angmohricunts deserted Taiwan for a SLEEPING GIANT PANDA before to reap ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE ,didnt they?
    Sweat-shops started in China to the benefit of angmoh corporations.
    Think LEVIS,HP,ETC.

    SO,whats truly on the table and the card$ they hold in their hands?1

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  • Western Sheep:

    https://youtu.be/5BEe9VlF5qM?t=286

    US want Taiwan to be US territory. US control army and gov in Taiwan. Hosei leow. Taiwan to be 99th state of US.

    xoxo:
    Lets just admit WHITE SUPREMACY existed and still exists,can we deny?
    Who are the peoples who silently let this be the case?

    Non-whites of ALL descents are to blame.
    Even now,angmohricunts trying to make use of TAIWAN against China,its quite obvious.
    Might angmohricunts deserted Taiwan for a SLEEPING GIANT PANDA before to reap ECONOMIC ADVANTAGE ,didnt they?
    Sweat-shops started in China to the benefit of angmoh corporations.
    Think LEVIS,HP,ETC.

    SO,whats truly on the table and the card$ they hold in their hands?1

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  • Philippines:

    Please bear in mind that not every past colonies have prospered after colonial rule. African countries are fine examples.

    No need to look so far. Philippines was a US colony. If they prosper, will they be here looking after young sinkies?

    The war resulted in at least 200,000 Filipino civilian deaths, mostly due to famine and disease.[22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29] Some estimates for total civilian dead reach up to a million.[7] Atrocities and war crimes were committed during the conflict,[30] including torture, mutilation, and executions. In retaliation for Filipino guerrilla warfare tactics, the U.S. carried out reprisals and scorched earth campaigns, and forcibly relocated many civilians to concentration camps, where thousands died.[31][32][33][34][35] The war and subsequent occupation by the U.S. changed the culture of the islands, leading to the rise of Protestantism and disestablishment of the Catholic Church and the introduction of English to the islands as the primary language of government, education, business, and industry.[36]

    Throughout the war, numerous atrocities were committed by the U.S. military, including the targeting of civilians. American soldiers and other witnesses sent letters home which described some of these atrocities. For example, In November 1901, the Manila correspondent of the Philadelphia Ledger wrote:

    The present war is no bloodless, opera bouffe engagement; our men have been relentless, have killed to exterminate men, women, children, prisoners and captives, active insurgents and suspected people from lads of ten up, the idea prevailing that the Filipino as such was little better than a puppy…[163]

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  • BK:

    We all know what GMS is trying to do. I think his facts are right, so, tell me why Asean distrusts China?

    Somehow according to these Chinese chauvinists, must be US fault. Lol. These dim wits will not win an argument much less a war! They think they know more about the interests of the Asean ppl than Filipinos, Vietnam, Myanmar etc. This is Chinese chauvinism spreading their virus!

    The actions of China created their distrusts period. They can only use a binary of US-China to facilitate their worshipping of CCP.

    Asean will play both ends, but ultimately security trumps economics. But even in economics, FDI of Asean will soon exceed that of China, even though Asean population is less than half of China.

    1. But the survey, done by ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute, a Singapore government-affiliated think tank, also uncovered variations in the overall trend among specific countries. For example, there were “palpable” levels of distrust towards China in Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Brunei and Vietnam.

    (Trust in US 50%, trust in China 26.8%.)

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3167214/southeast-asias-trust-china-us-improves-more-believe-asean-needs

    2. Despite its economic centrality to the region, Beijing continues to elicit significant levels of mistrust.

    https://thediplomat.com/2022/06/what-china-gets-wrong-about-southeast-asia/

    3. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

    The State of Southeast Asia 2021 survey indicates that Southeast Asians’ trust in China continues to trend downward, in contrast to the US’ improved trust ratings.
    China’s success in containing the pandemic domestically, its “mask and vaccine diplomacy” in the region and Southeast Asians’ acknowledgement of Chinese support on COVID-19 have had little effect on their trust deficit towards Beijing.

    Southeast Asians’ appreciation of China’s significant influence in the region is accompanied by their profound anxiety over China’s ability to constrain their countries’ sovereignty and foreign policy choices.
    This persistent trust deficit not only undermines China’s “discourse power”, it is a cognitive bias that may influence Southeast Asian countries’ foreign policy towards China.

    The survey findings, including on the South China Sea issue, behoove Beijing to recalibrate its approach to the region, especially on recognising both China’s responsibility and Southeast Asian countries’ agency in moving relations forward.

    https://www.iseas.edu.sg/articles-commentaries/iseas-perspective/iseas-perspective-2021-15-southeast-asians-declining-trust-in-china-by-hoang-thi-ha/

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  • Western Sheep:

    So fast expose your self-described true nature: “laughable simpleton vomit of western propaganda.” Only Western propaganda claim ASEAN distrust China.

    Do your pappy bosses claim they distrust China?

    In a recent (Aug 2022) interview with the Financial Times, former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad blamed “US provocation” for increasing tensions in the Taiwan Straits, suggesting members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) stay away from the US and the West’s provocations against China. In the words of this British media outlet, he urged regional countries to “move closer to China.”

    BK: We all know what GMS is trying to do. I think his facts are right, so, tell me why Asean distrusts China?

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  • SS:

    I am not a Trump fan, but I can understand why his simplistic slogan of “America First” (instead of United States must be involved in the internal affairs of all the countries in the world) resonate with a large group of American people.

    Kehinde Andrews’ book “The New Age of Empire” explains well the West’s behaviour towards the rest of the world, with policies driven mostly by the desire to maintain white supremacy. This is of course vehemently denied by Western governments, who try to portray themselves as benevolent to the rest of the world.
    https://wakelet.com/wake/0-SYSNYvLdN3wDkeqgJHy

    ASEAN knows they would like to avoid war. The US track record on that matter when it decides to “focus” on your region is not good. Singapore and Indonesia’s leaders are on record as saying they will not isolate China and do not want a policy that divides Asia. The rest are basically in the same boat. Philippine’s “BongBong” – Ferdinand Marcos Jr. (yes the former dictator’s son) as President. Marcos Jr. has already stated before his “landslide victory” that good relations with China was the only reasonable policy. (Btw, a US court earlier ruled BongBong owes the US about US $350 million in hidden assets the US targeted during an earlier sanctions effort.)

    Some members are more than a little uneasy with the new US led military organization the so-called QUAD (Australia, US, India, and Japan) in the region. Less said about Myanmar the better. These nations is reluctant to make a firm commitment to either the US-led West or to China until there is a clear indication of which side has “won” (if such an indication ever emerges). Bottom line to Biden: don’t get your hopes up too far. ASEAN – on record is solidly wisely diplomatically waffling between China and the US. No hope of real change on any of that.

    Who will believe that the country is looking to treat other non-Western countries equally and fairly? Are ASEAN countries foolish enough to believe that they will be treated as an equal by the US and its allies once they have turned against China? Even if people don’t remember their colonial past, what is happening today (the WTO, the IMF, the World Bank etc. as instruments for maintaining Western superiority) is convincing enough to lead them to believe that they will never be more than a pawn in the contest between superpowers. China is their only hope in getting more than table scraps left by the West, although whether that will happen remains to be seen.

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  • BK:

    Lol. Another intl courts settled Taiwan moment? Where are the documents? Dont have? Oops!

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  • BK:

    Asean newspapers are now informing their local constituents of China aggression.

    This is an article in Manila Times informing ppl of Philippines that Indonesia faces maritime problems from China as well.

    “Like us, Indonesia also has a history of wrangling with Beijing over its rights in its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (Unclos).”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.manilatimes.net/2022/09/10/opinion/columns/china-also-vexes-indonesia-with-nine-dash-line-claim-in-jakartas-eez/1857929/amp

    And it is clear, that Asean will now formulate policies in cooperation with its members and pull in US, Australia, Japan, India to confront China’s bullying.

    As I said, while China is Asean biggest trading partner, US is Asean biggest FDI investor. And FDI in Asean is trending towards overtaking China.

    But China is threatening the maritime borders of many Asean countries. The reactions are simple logic.

    While these mad Chinese Chauvinists tell lies , we as Sporeans should know where our interests are, based on data, security, reciprocity.

    Do not be dissuaded by their vulgarity and insipid evilness. We are small but nimble. I believe going forward, a new breed of China Chinese will be more wise, these silly idiots here will be in the dustbin of history as the Red Guards.

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  • SINGAROAR:

    Ultimately it is not about the USA or China but choosing PEACE which is essential to all people on Earth. We can see that both Putin and Xi are embarking on annexing more land from neighbouring countries. Both are Communist and authoritarian. Xi has amended the CCP constitution to remain in power for his life time. The Chinese fishing boats which are accompanied by their navy have been going into the territorial waters of Japan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Malaysia etc. These countries have been protesting the incursions. The Spratly Islands claim and building of a military base there is another controversy that many countries have taken to the International Courts. China, is portraying itself, not as patriarch figure but a bully. Asean might be beholden to China because of its huge markets but it should be aware that a Communist State can change rules as it wants and billions can be lost overnight. Do we need the US in the region? It has to be a huge “YES,” to balance the power in the region, as China can use an ancient map to claim more territories. In that instance, we will become vassal states of China. We have Hong Kong to learn from and I think most of us would not want be re-educated by the Communist.

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  • BK:

    Fair comment @SS. But I dont see how China is the “only hope”, when the perpetrator is China. And until China movement into the South China Sea, there was hardly any movement in the military budget of the region.

    Now, history is fine as an accompaniment of present analysis, but it is just a factor, everybody is a virgin until they have sex. The recent action, recent literature, recent military build up, all are current and ongoing data that show China aggression.

    Of course Asean dosent want war. But is avoiding war means letting China gets its ways in maritime boundaries? Asean will naturally invite US and others in to buffer their sovereign rights.

    US dosent treat others equally true! But neither does China! Devil and the Deep Blue Sea.

    Ok, ppl are uneasy with QUAD. But why are Asean having military exercises with US, Japan, India etc? Because they love the US? Or because it is in their interests to do so?

    Lets separate the rhetoric from the real actions/motivations, separate the chaff from the wheat so to speak.

    And the other often quoted excuse/projection, China history was not expansionist, I dont agree but thats for another day; is CCP a discontinuity or a continuity of Chinese civilization?

    It is not in fact a continuity. CCP is an embodiment of Leninist-Marxist State; an idea borrowed from the West.

    “In the article, Xi himself provides a clear example of ideological interpretation of Chinese history. He has personally participated in ceremonies honoring Confucius, but states, attributing the idea to Chairman Mao, that “Confucius became a sage because he was a revolutionary and participated in rebellions everywhere.” There is much we do not know about Confucius, but from what we know he was rather a traditionalist who wanted to restore a lost social order and praised social stability.

    Twisting history, making even Confucius into a proto-Marxist revolutionary, also serves more immediate aims. Xi insists that Chinese civilization is inherently peaceful, based on “dialogue and tolerance,” and “has been famous for its openness and inclusiveness since ancient times.” In fact, like all great empires, China has had its imperialistic times and has expanded by conquering and destroying neighboring states. However, the argument that China is historically peaceful and surrounded by imperialistic neighbors has been used by Chinese propaganda and “wolf warrior diplomacy” in recent territorial disputes with India and Japan.”

    https://bitterwinter.org/the-origins-of-chinese-civilization-project/

    US is not an angel, we all know that. But that is irrelevant. The relevance is what are our interests, and it is to build a coalition that neither US or China can dominate. And that includes various combinations that will include India, Japan, Australia. But it so happens all these countries see China as a threat.

    Playing US as a bogeyman is just a strategic failure to understand and react to the legitimate interests of Asean.

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  • Western Sheep:

    You have already shown your vitriolic hatred of Chinese, there is no use trying to hide behind “Singapore interest”.

    You are so desperate you use an unknown Filipino opinion piece to represent the entire ASEAN. It’s at the same level as you claim to represent “Singapore interest”.

    What’s the big deal of US FDI to Asean? Most of it goes into Singapore. Other Asean countries have little effect. Go on, twist more data, or fake as usual.

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  • BK:

    Lol. Dont get your knickers all entangled. I dont take u seriously la (:

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  • Western Sheep:

    Your description of China is, as your fellow sheep admits, “laughable, simpleton vomit of western propaganda.”

    You belong to this special group who claim, “Since WW1, angmo countries have not hurt a single Asian.”

    SINGAROAR:
    Ultimately it is not about the USA or China but choosing PEACE which is essential to all people on Earth. We can see that both Putin and Xi are embarking on annexing more land from neighbouring countries. Both are Communist and authoritarian. Xi has amended the CCP constitution to remain in power for his life time. The Chinese fishing boats which are accompanied by their navy have been going into the territorial waters of Japan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Malaysia etc. These countries have been protesting the incursions. The Spratly Islands claim and building of a military base there is another controversy that many countries have taken to the International Courts. China, is portraying itself, not as patriarch figure but a bully. Asean might be beholden to China because of its huge markets but it should be aware that a Communist State can change rules as it wants and billions can be lost overnight. Do we need the US in the region? It has to be a huge “YES,” to balance the power in the region, as China can use an ancient map to claim more territories. In that instance, we will become vassal states of China. We have Hong Kong to learn from and I think most of us would not want be re-educated by the Communist.

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  • BK:

    Btw, do u know how FDI flows from Spore to region? Only talk cock sing song. Really sotong!

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  • BK:

    SINGAROAR:
    Ultimately it is not about the USA or China but choosing PEACE which is essential to all people on Earth. We can see that both Putin and Xi are embarking on annexing more land from neighbouring countries. Both are Communist and authoritarian. Xi has amended the CCP constitution to remain in power for his life time. The Chinese fishing boats which are accompanied by their navy have been going into the territorial waters of Japan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Malaysia etc. These countries have been protesting the incursions. The Spratly Islands claim and building of a military base there is another controversy that many countries have taken to the International Courts. China, is portraying itself, not as patriarch figure but a bully. Asean might be beholden to China because of its huge markets but it should be aware that a Communist State can change rules as it wants and billions can be lost overnight. Do we need the US in the region? It has to be a huge “YES,” to balance the power in the region, as China can use an ancient map to claim more territories. In that instance, we will become vassal states of China. We have Hong Kong to learn from and I think most of us would not want be re-educated by the Communist.

    Exactly! Overseas Chinese are not China Chinese. We are not like them who destroyed their ancestors altars, and upended millions of traditional cultural relics.

    They worship the White Russian Bears, so much for angmo lovers (:

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  • BK:

    Isnt it weird they worry about US slavery but never talked about how CCP killed more Chinese than anyone else with the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution?

    Isnt it funny they talk about Chinese civilization when CCP destroyed it in a lust fueled craze driven by White communist ideology that devastated the culture.

    As I said. There is a difference bwt Pro-China and Chinese Chauvinism period!

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  • SS:

    Thank you @BK. As I tried to suggest in a prior comment, this is also partially a function of the moment in internal politics in both countries. Now it is unsettled on so many things with China because it is clear the US has decided to fight. I think it likely that the Chinese narrative, correct or not, is that the U.S. is essentially the successor to the Western and Japanese imperial powers that, in the 100 years plus between the Opium War and the end of WWII (the “Century of Humiliation”) occupied territories and had special rights within China.

    In Britain’s case, there was also the seizure of Hong Kong and in Japan’s case, the seizure of Taiwan and occupation and then annexation of Korea. Korea, in particular, was used as a springboard for the later Japanese invasions of China that became part of WWII. Given this history, as well as the past U.S. interventions in Asia, and the U.S. military alliances with China’s near coastal neighbors (i.e., Taiwan, South Korea and a more nationalistic Japan), the Chinese probably find it easy to see the U.S. as a threat. And the U.S. talk about China being a near existential strategic and economic enemy suggests that we might be a little paranoid too.

    It is odd to hear a country called “Marxist Leninist” when China is actually a myriad, a universe of things. “We must study and master the precepts that the world is unified as matter and that matter determines consciousness” In one single sentence, Mr. Xi abolished six thousand years of Chinese spiritual and artistic heritage, not to mention the cultural production of the rest of the world during that same period. This is beyond ‘boorish’. The only probable explanation for all this is that no matter what nonsense is uttered by the Chinese leadership it should all be translated into one simple sentence: “Know who is boss and behave accordingly” Mr Xi is turning fundamentalist of a fake Western faith – Kleptocracy dressed-up as Marxism.

    I can offer the following observation: The disconnect between top Party officials and “the people” in China is probably even more pronounced than the one between elected officials and their constituents here in the USA. I doubt much has changed since I left. I can’t decide if the Party is utterly deluded when it spouts some of its nonsense or if it knows full well what it says isn’t true and says it anyway. There first needs to be a clarification of exactly what constitutes “Western” values.

    Time will tell if Mr Xi’s push toward a more Marxist stance for China is a short term thrust to silence hard liners. It seems near impossible to turn back the clock considering the number of Chinese students studying in the west, and the number who have studied in the past. While China continues to block the internet on a selective basis, the infusion of so called western ideas and thought will continue to be a large part of Chinese mindset. Karl Marx is not really a useful bit of economic philosophy for China in this century.

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  • BK:

    Morning @SS. Brilliant msg. And I agree, US is looking to fight. And they will agitate China. But China does itself no favor by alienating Asean. But is not too late. Lets see what happens in Oct. Alot of internal tension, Xi is not in a good moment.

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  • Western Sheep:

    “The Western Media has successfully whitewashed all these past deeds over the last century. When I was young I used to watch cowboy shows and really thought those Red Indians were really the bad guys! And those Mexican rebels are bad guys as well!

    But the Reality is totally different.”

    I saw the bodies of those lying there cut all to pieces, worse mutilated than any I ever saw before; the women cut all to pieces … With knives; scalped; their brains knocked out; children two or three months old; all ages lying there, from sucking infants up to warriors … By whom were they mutilated? By the United States troops …
    — John S. Smith, Congressional Testimony of Mr. John S. Smith, 1865[34]

    I saw one squaw lying on the bank, whose leg had been broken. A soldier came up to her with a drawn sabre. She raised her arm to protect herself; he struck, breaking her arm. She rolled over, and raised her other arm; he struck, breaking that, and then left her with out killing her. I saw one squaw cut open, with an unborn child lying by her side.
    — Robert Bent, New York Tribune, 1879[27]

    Fingers and ears were cut off the bodies for the jewelry they carried. The body of White Antelope, lying solitarily in the creek bed, was a prime target. Besides scalping him the soldiers cut off his nose, ears, and testicles-the last for a tobacco pouch …
    — Stan Hoig[36]

    Jis’ to think of that puppy Chivington and his dirty hounds, up thar at Sand Creek. His men shot down squaws, and blew the brains out of little innocent children. You call sich soldiers Christians, do ye? And Indians savages? What der yer s’pose our Heavenly Father, who made both them and us, thinks of these things? I tell you what, I don’t like a hostile red skin any more than you do. And when they are hostile, I’ve fought ‘em, hard as any man. But I never yet drew a bead on a squaw or papoose, and I despise the man who would.
    — Kit Carson to Col. James Rusling[37]

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  • Western Sheep:

    Biden told the UN, adding that the US wishes to see the conflict in Ukraine to “end on just terms … that you cannot seize a nation’s territory by force.”

    YOU cannot seize a nation’s territory by force. WE can.

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  • Western Sheep:

    How dare this Malaysia ambassador and other Malaysians be so friendly to China! Some Blur King claims Malaysia is very angry with China, based on some lousy survey.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px-xlKHtn6o

    The Story of Time: China and Malaysia

    China & Malaysia relationship will flourish even more. It’s a win-win for both nation. Jiayou China & Malaysia

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