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Why China continues with the zero Covid-19 policy?

My friend explained China’s covid zero policy along the following lines:

- China does not lockdown the entire country when there are covid cases.

- They divide each city into districts and only lock down the districts with covid cases. When no more new cases are found, the lockdown is lifted for that district.

- Due to the low vaccination rate, they do not want to take the risk of a widespread infection that may cause severe illness on the people without immunity.

- Even if a district is lockdown, the authority allow workers to continue their work under a closed loop system. The workers have to stay in the workplace and keep contact with only its own circle of contacts. They are not allowed to go home and get into contact with other people along the way.

Using this lockdown by district and closed loop system, China was able to minimize the disruption to its economy.

My friend said that he heard this explanation from the top disease expert in China. This is the recommendation of the top professionals and accepted by the political leadership.

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

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213 Responses to “Why China continues with the zero Covid-19 policy?”

  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    Singapore is fortunate, they did not elect you as the EP.
    Your logic is similar to TR Tech or Western Sheep.
    For your information, if what you said is true, China cant be doing lousy GDP this year, it is the worst growth since 1970s.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/27/china-growth-lags-asia-pacific-for-first-time-in-decades-as-world-bank-cuts-outlook

    Most countries are worried that China is going back to 70s and its poor performance will impact the rest.

    Your hearsay from a friend and repeat here? You mean TR Tech? Or Western Sheep?

    I suggest you move to China and enjoy your love there.

    You cannot debate with CCP and Russian lovers.

    You present info, they said its hearsay.
    You present facts, they said it is Western propaganda.

    Their love for autocracy is so deep, you cant debate with them.

    Worst, they fabricate their own version of truth without any reference.

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  • Foreigners everywhere:

    https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3196153/xi-says-china-must-brace-dangerous-storms-while-fostering-new?utm_content=article&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1665924681

    Go read more… China economy is sinking, don’t bs.

    Tech: China’s economy is sinking, so? Are you making a comparison with Sinkieland or merely stating a matter of fact which everyone in China already knows?

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  • Real democracy:

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    Singapore is fortunate, they did not elect you as the EP.
    Your logic is similar to TR Tech or Western Sheep.
    For your information, if what you said is true, China cant be doing lousy GDP this year, it is the worst growth since 1970s.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/27/china-growth-lags-asia-pacific-for-first-time-in-decades-as-world-bank-cuts-outlook

    Most countries are worried that China is going back to 70s and its poor performance will impact the rest.

    Your hearsay from a friend and repeat here? You mean TR Tech? Or Western Sheep?

    I suggest you move to China and enjoy your love there.

    You cannot debate with CCP and Russian lovers.

    You present info, they said its hearsay.
    You present facts, they said it is Western propaganda.

    Their love for autocracy is so deep, you cant debate with them.

    Worst, they fabricate their own version of truth without any reference.

    Please, no one is saying you are an idiot. No need to expose your idiocy here by posting silly and childish comments.

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  • myfirstscrew:

    https://sg.bullshitter.com/style/watch-hong-kong-protester-beaten-200529558.html

    You see what CCP can do, even not in China…

    Hong Kong protester appears to be beaten

    A Hong Kong pro-democracy protester was apparently beaten inside the grounds of the Chinese consulate in Manchester on Sunday, according to footage circulating on social media.

    Video footage appeared to show a man being assaulted as police officers tried to break up the chaotic scenes on Sunday afternoon.

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  • myfirstscrew:

    @Real democracy
    Please, no one is saying you are an idiot. No need to expose your idiocy here by posting silly and childish comments.

    —– which part is silly and childish?—–

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/27/china-growth-lags-asia-pacific-for-first-time-in-decades-as-world-bank-cuts-outlook

    You seem clownish.

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  • @myfirstscrew

    Are you trying to say that Sinkie police don’t abuse/beat up accused and only the Chinese police/security do? Besides, it’s in the UK, so I doubt it’s even the Chinese police. Anyway, do you know that for every news that Yahoo reports on China, 99% are all negative ones, including even its so-called opinion pieces, you know why? That is because Yahoo was kicked out of China for their forever lop-sided reporting on everything China.

    I have noticed that it has almost always been Sinkieland’s Yahoo that is reporting negatively on China, suggesting that they have an axe to grind with the Chinese authorities but why Sinkieland’s Yahoo always doing the dirty work? EVERYONE knows that all the media outlets in Sinkieland are under the direct purview of the party, so whatever yahoo in Sinkieland is doing is strongly suggesting that it is trying to sow discord between the 2 countries. Were they doing it under the instruction of the party?

    Mind you, China is 13,300 times larger than Sinkieland, and the Chinese unlike Sinkies, have very long memory span. It would therefore be suicide to even think of picking a quarrel with them unless Sinkieland can afford to lose another SuZhou Industrial Park or any or all of Temasick’s investment in the country.

    Anyway, want to make a point, please don’t pick isolated incidents, not very convincing, right? If TRE were to follow your warped thinking logic, then we can say everyone in HDB is corrupt because its former (now dead) chief was corrupt, and by extension of your logic again, since LKY was the PM when the incident happened, we should also blame LKY and the party too?

    Stoopid and childish right?

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  • One sided story:

    Simple Honkies say they are supposed to be able to protest freely in UK. They didn’t know UK already outlawed their type of HK protests?

    Definitely, the UK government must explain why they did not protect the China consulate. It is the duty of governments to protect foreign consulate grounds.

    Why the police and protestors forced themselves into the China consulate and attack the diplomats? This is total outrage. It’s clear from the video that the Chinese diplomats were defending themselves, with very restrained force. They were trying to push the intruder out.

    If that Honky had really been beaten, there would have been blown up photos of his face. Black eye. Swollen lips. Broken nose.

    Liz Truss should apologize, while she’s still in office.

    myfirstscrew:
    https://**.yohoo.com/style/watch-hong-kong-protester-beaten-200529558.html

    You see what CCP can do, even not in China…

    Hong Kong protester appears to be beaten

    A Hong Kong pro-democracy protester was apparently beaten inside the grounds of the Chinese consulate in Manchester on Sunday, according to footage circulating on social media.

    Video footage appeared to show a man being assaulted as police officers tried to break up the chaotic scenes on Sunday afternoon.

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  • knn:

    myfirstscrew:
    https://**.yahoo.com/style/watch-hong-kong-protester-beaten-200529558.html

    You see what CCP can do, even not in China…

    Hong Kong protester appears to be beaten

    A Hong Kong pro-democracy protester was apparently beaten inside the grounds of the Chinese consulate in Manchester on Sunday, according to footage circulating on social media.

    Video footage appeared to show a man being assaulted as police officers tried to break up the chaotic scenes on Sunday afternoon.

    You simply picked up a solitary case to make your silly claims. During the democracy rioting in Hong Kong, many Hong Kong policemen, reporters etc were beaten by the rioters.

    Go and get screwed, you silly twit.

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  • @One sided story

    You are not wrong in your analysis. IMHO, the consular grounds belong to the foreign country, in this case, China, and it has jurisdiction over the consular grounds, not UK.

    The protestors have already committed an act of trespassing under Chinese law and by their supposed attacking the diplomats, the right of self-defense would have automatically kicked in, and the guards/security and diplomats would have every reason to protect the consulate and diplomats, even to the extent of killing the protestors, if the situation warrants it. Chinese laws are very clear on the right to self-defense and the UK joker expects the consulate to apologise and still have the cheek to say that it happened on “British soil”? What a freaking joker of a former Tory leader! BTW, protesting inside consular grounds is already an offense by itself, under both UK and Chinese laws, peaceful or not being totally irrelevant.

    An interesting point to note in this incident is, if the protestors are detained inside consular grounds, China can choose to have them shipped to China for trial under Chinese laws. So whether the UK police have the case to investigate or not, is entirely at the sole discretion of China. I stand corrected on this, but I think I am not too far off.

    Anyway, from the way the article is written, it is clearly lop-sided and extremely biased, intended to cast a negative light on the consular staff, a clear case of Yahoo trying to mislead the readers. The journalist Berny Torre should be ashamed of himself.

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  • 2Daft2Live:

    If you believe in the stories of an authoritarian country….what else won’t you believe?

    A story was told to me by an ex-colleague who worked in China. Once he went to a public hospital to do his PCR tests but as it was super crowded he decided to go to an adjacent hospital building with screening facilities. He was stopped by the security guard who requested for the special card (think it was blue color). Apparently, that entire section of the hospital was reserved for party members and their families only. Unfortunately, my ex-colleague wasn’t a member so was denied access.

    A Chinese colleague of mine said that 80% of the public healthcare resources are monopolized by 20% of the population in China. This 20% are made up of all the communist party members, their families and kins. Just the party members alone is >92 million. So if you add up their families and kakis that’s easily another 100+ million. Now you know why in authoritarian countries, it makes sense to suck up to the ruling party?

    Two legs good, four legs better….and in SG, if you are white, you are made for life.

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  • 2Daft2Live:

    …..and the fact that public healthcare resources in China are so badly mis-allocated means that they can’t afford a severe outbreak of COVID. This is worsen by the relatively poor efficacy of the Chinese made vaccines compared to Western vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna.

    Add up all of the above, the zero COVID policy of China makes a lot of sense even if it is hurting them economically. Given enough time, things will stabilize and the economy will recover but lives lost won’t.

    Tech: Err… the initial outbreak at Wuhan wasn’t “severe” enough? And, if I am not wrong, Sinkieland’s Forex reserve is in the US$300b range while China’s is in the US$3,000b range, so which country exactly “can’t afford a severe outbreak of COVID”? BTW, how did you arrive at the conclusion that the mRNA vaccines are and have better efficacy than the inactivated ones, because those clowns at MTF said so? lol

    Economy-wise, it was a painful choice to go zero-C19 but under Xi, it’s the welfare of its populace first, the rest secondary. And should it comes to the point when it has to make a painful economic adjustment to keep the economy ticking, it might just let the Yuan take the cut and not defend it.

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  • @2Daft2Live

    This thingy about party members being big fiack is indeed news to me, while the part about some special areas that are reserved for the elites and connected WERE true before Xi came into power. I know this because an entire especially porche-renovated block in the estate just beside mine is now currently vacant because the developer had initially reserved it for the elites that are well-connected (priced with huge discounts). However after Xi came into power and with the nationwide crackdown on corruption, the developer dare not sell/gift and the connected elites dare not buy/take, thus it remains vacant to this day because the city officials refused to issue the developer permit to sell these units to the public, knowing its original intended purpose.

    As for the supposedly big fiack party members, it’s not entirely true. Practically everyone in civil service is a party member, my father-in-law included. They have no special perks that one would die for, just to be proud as a member (think PA members big fiack in Sinkieland or not). Plainly put, it is not about whether you are a party member or not, it’s who you are that really matters.

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  • ???:

    No head, no tail. Only speculation.

    2Daft2Live:
    If you believe in the stories of an authoritarian country….what else won’t you believe?

    A story was told to me by an ex-colleague who worked in China. Once he went to a public hospital to do his PCR tests but as it was super crowded he decided to go to an adjacent hospital building with screening facilities. He was stopped by the security guard who requested for the special card (think it was blue color). Apparently, that entire section of the hospital was reserved for party members and their families only. Unfortunately, my ex-colleague wasn’t a member so was denied access.

    A Chinese colleague of mine said that 80% of the public healthcare resources are monopolized by 20% of the population in China. This 20% are made up of all the communist party members, their families and kins. Just the party members alone is >92 million. So if you add up their families and kakis that’s easily another 100+ million. Now you know why in authoritarian countries, it makes sense to suck up to the ruling party?

    Two legs good, four legs better….and in SG, if you are white, you are made for life.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    CCP and Russian lovers, please have your logic, many countries have true democracy and allow protest. The title said Hong Kong protester dragged into Manchester Chinese consulate grounds and beaten up. And he Unidentified men came out of the consulate and forced a man inside the compound, It means he was forcefully taken off the street and dragged into Chinese consulate to be beaten.
    You guys are hopeless, it is UK not China, China consulate has no right to do this. And he was only a protestor and if he was involved in dangerous acts, the police would have taken him in and not helping him to escape from Chinese detention. Your logic defies gravity that China can take laws into their own hands even if it is not in China. before he escaped with the help of police and other demonstrators. So you mean anyone can come into your place, drag you into his house and beat u?

    Chinese economy is going back into the 70s, so please dont bs us. Many of my Chinese friends are complaining and a lot want to get out of China.

    https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economic-issues-watch/chinas-zero-covid-policies-are-crippling-its-economic-outlook

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/williampesek/2022/07/29/chinas-zero-covid-mess-is-infecting-asias-economies/?sh=42bbdd393e09

    https://www.ft.com/content/f304117c-7682-4eb7-a976-b982b50ab2b0

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62173735

    https://www.reuters.com/business/chinas-zero-covid-policy-dashes-global-hopes-quick-economic-return-normal-2022-05-19/

    Tech: Granted, if the report is true, then what the security did was wrong and may even be illegal. Since its on British soil, then let the British police deal with them, if they need to be charged for dragging the protestor into the consulate to hamtam, then so be it. BUT then, remember the grounds in the consulate is China soil wor, so the protestor if inside kenna hamtam also lan lan right? lol

    As for the economy, ever heard of the “outside moon always brighter”? So if some Chinese think that Sinkieland’s moon brighter, then go lor, who is stopping them? The same logic applies when I decided to go to China almost 2 decades ago, I am used to it and living a carefree life now, as far as I am concerned, no regrets here. I would say to each his own.

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  • myfirstscrew:

    I have many fetish CCP lovers in China, they are my extended family. They are like TR Tech, TKL, Western Sheep, Free Rider… everything about CCP is good… if bad, must be western propaganda or plot.

    Covid 0… all CCP and Russian lovers praise it, right? They are in love with it saying about few death and even helping the economy. LOL

    This is what actually happens:-

    1. My cousins told me economy really bad, no business…. need to go out to be Didi driver.

    2. Recently his son with daughter in law was caught in lock down. Before that, he was promoting like TKL and TR Tech that lock down is good… But when he was locked down… he is feeling so different, a lot of exasperation and anger. I asked, “Are you very happy to support Covid 0?” I received no reply from him.

    This is what is reality, if needle does not prick you, you dont feel the pain. When the needle pricks u, suddenly you know its real.

    So dont imagine because you are pro CCP or Russia, the truth is not near what you imagined. Even those in Shanghai locked down 3 months, they also felt angry and loss of business and income.

    Tech: For the record, #1 is true and I have never denied that. I said that the C19 (not just the policies) is causing a great strain on the economy and affecting the livelihood of many, so no dispute there. As for #2, I was on lockdown for 4 months, why don’t you ask me that question again? Between anger and getting infected, I would choose the lockdown anytime again. So shiok, all commitments OFFICIALLY no need to care, like bank loans, elec, water, etc etc no need to pay and with food (even free rice, cooking oil and vegies) sent to your doorstep. Can every day surf porn and no one disturb you, how nice? lol

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  • knn:

    2Daft2Live:
    …..and the fact that public healthcare resources in China are so badly mis-allocated means that they can’t afford a severe outbreak of COVID. This is worsen by the relatively poor efficacy of the Chinese made vaccines compared to Western vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna.

    Add up all of the above, the zero COVID policy of China makes a lot of sense even if it is hurting them economically. Given enough time, things will stabilize and the economy will recover but lives lost won’t.

    Tech: Err… the initial outbreak at Wuhan wasn’t “severe” enough? And, if I am not wrong, Sinkieland’s Forex reserve is in the US$300b range while China’s is in the US$3,000b range, so which country exactly “can’t afford a severe outbreak of COVID”? BTW, how did you arrive at the conclusion that the mRNA vaccines are and have better efficacy than the inactivated ones, because those clowns at MTF said so? lol

    Economy-wise, it was a painful choice to go zero-C19 but under Xi, it’s the welfare of its populace first, the rest secondary. And should it comes to the point when it has to make a painful economic adjustment to keep the economy ticking, it might just let the Yuan take the cut and not defend it.

    2daft2live is very honest about his own intellect. China’s vaccine efficacy is poor, compared to mRNA’s efficacy of 96%. That is why till today, China’s daily infection rate is less than 1,000 while America’s is 800,000, now 100,000. And China’s pop is 1.4b, US’s pop is 300m. 2daft2live therefore concluded mRNA is very effective, in infection. Very daft, oops, very clever.

    And China is too poor to pay for mRNA vaccines? Or too smart not to waste money on fake vaccines that cannot stop infection?

    What is your answer, daft?

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  • ah seng:

    https://sg.bullshitter.com/news/uk-police-enter-chinese-consulate-073056121.html

    Minutes later, a number of men wearing masks and protective vests walked out of the consulate and began destroying posters, before walking away with a satirical portrait of Chinese president Xi Jinping.

    When the protesters tried to stop them, a scuffle broke out, forcing the police to intervene.

    One of the demonstrators, so far identified only as Bob in media reports, was dragged inside the consulate compound where he was repeatedly pummelled by the unidentified men, video of the incident showed. At least one police officer then entered the consulate grounds and pulled out the protester.

    ——- this is CCP, they can suka suka do anything not even in China——

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  • xoxo:

    Whatever the reason,i think we must accord due respect to China for its STEADFASTNESS CONSISTENCY UNLIKE OYK n MTF.

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  • Change lah:

    Need to change lah.
    Last year Zero Covid policy good.
    This year Zero Covid policy… save physical health but cause more mental health problem.
    More suffering from economic lockdown than the disease now.
    Better change course.

    Tech: According to TOP health experts and authorities in China, IF China were to adopt a live-with-the-virus policy, MILLIONS would die from the infection. Unlike the frogs in the well on an island near teh equator where the death of a loved one is sup sup the water, the love between the Chinese people runs deep in the family, so if you have millions of loved ones dying overnight (as in the case of Wuhan), the amount of cry father and cry mother would paralyze the city, county or village. Do you think that was not taken into consideration during policy formulation? Besides, Xi made it very clear fromn the C19 pandemic onset that the welfare of the people comes first and that was repeated multiple times on national TV, so dare any officials not listen? Just look aty the policies that the CCP have been churning out in the years since Xi came into power, which of them is not people-centric?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ Sinkieland’s Forex reserve is in the US$300b range while China’s is in the US$3,000b range, so which country exactly “can’t afford a severe outbreak of COVID”?

    Also need to factor into consideration.

    Yes. 300b divided by 10 millions versus 3000b divided by 1.4b.

    Also the numbers of 1st tier hospitals are specifically located and concentrated in certain areas, e.g. wuhan shanghai , beijing, shenzhen , Guangzhou, …..

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  • I worked in China:

    In my Shenzhen district, the lock down is not full lock down. I can go outside of my district twice per day. I go out once per day to work. As it’s so efficient to order everything online I order food and groceries online.

    Don’t listen to western media and people like idontbelieve and mike先生。The former sounds like non Singaporean Chinese who trying stir up hatred towards China and her people. The latter sounds like a pro independence Taiwanese or HK people.

    Tech: Very true, people who have never been in a lockdown thought that a lockdown means you go to prison, lol. With the exception of maybe the initial Wuhan lockdown that was very strict, many lockdowns were very flexible and maybe even fun for some of us. Some welcome the lockdown because they need not pay their housing loans/cards anymore and can delay the payment. Some even like the sneeking out to buy food, work, etc. In my case, I had a medical certification from the doctor that require me then, to visit the hospital daily for tests for 7 days. So they gave me a car sticker so I can leave the estate and zoom around the city (plenty of road blocks) to do that and also since I reside in an estate full of doctors and nurses (working in the city hospitals), most of us just zoom past the secutiry gate without any issue, just need to go through a temp scanner can liao. lol

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  • @myfirstview:

    Chinese police in uk ! Hahaha.

    Tech: Yeah, me was laughing too. Anyway, the head of security in the consulate is a PRC maybe even police (remember it’s China’s soil), the rest are all employed, so probably all British.

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  • Zero-Covid Refugee:

    Why so many zero-covid policy Ah Tiong refugees in Sinkieland.
    How many are here to avoid lockdown?
    How many arrived during the last 18 months?
    TKL should really really really migrate to Emperor-Forever Xi-land.
    He love him so much.
    Instead of spewing nonsense every other day about how good Xi-land is?
    Ditto for ALL China lovers on TRE and other China-hugging sinkies.
    BTW vax rate in China is one of the highest!!!

    Tech: They did not go to Sinkieland to avoid teh zero-C19 policy, they went there to make money to send home, get it? Some (mostly women) of course are waiting to marry unsuspecting Sinkies, get it? As for the super rich, they went to Sinkies to escape from you know what, like the haiDiLao and facebook owners. With practically low low tax, Sinkieland is a paradise for these people, hell for its natural inhabitants, get it?

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  • unvax:

    Vaccination doesn’t guarantee immunity.
    I had 3 rounds (9 doses, 2 brands, 3rd round double doses) of Hep B vaccination because of work requirement, with only transient antibody. I was referred by staff clinic to consult a specialist. PCR showed I had no Hep B DNA, meaning I was not infected with Hep B. The specialist had not Hep B antibody either. I also know a doctor who doesn’t have Hep B antibody.

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  • Smart Nation:

    More than 80% have received full vaccination status. It would be interesting to know what percentage of those infected during the current wave is vaxxed as opposed to unvaxxed. What if there are more infections among the vaxxed than unvaxxed? It means that vaccination does not guarantee protection against new sub-variants or breakthrough infections. So if every six to nine months, you get vaccinated with an “updated” vaccine for the latest variant/sub-variant, will you one day turn into a mutant or zombie? LOL! Is it not safer to approach it therapeutically with anti-viral drug?

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  • @PAP mandate strong

    I agree that there are plenty of factors to consider and that China’s economy is not looking good with their zero-c19 policies placing a huge strain on the economy, its populace’s debt adding to the woes, etc.

    But my point of mentioning the Forex is to highlight that at US$3 TRILLION, China can well afford to service all its debts, and with a surplus of almost US$450b a year and being almost outside debt-free, China is in a better position than many countries in the world, superseding Sinkieland of course, when it comes to being able to afford to sustain its zero-C19 policies. UNLESS China experiences a huge bubble burst, the US$3T by IMF standard is more than sufficient to keep the country running for years.

    IMHO, the current immediate crisis which China has to tackle would-be its banking system, and since the government owns almost all the banks directly or indirectly, it is a debt taker with almost everyone in China practically indebted to the government (and Alipay, WeChat, etc etc etc.) and the situation as it stands currently, billion$ are in default due to the C19. This I see, would be a national issue if no measures are in place to help its populace.

    Luckily, China has begun implementing a slew of policies aimed at helping the debtors get out of the mess that they are in so that the banks would not be burdened by a mountain of bad debts.

    BTW, China has many makeshift C19 hospitals fully capable of handling a C19 outbreak, the likes of FengShen in Wuhan which was built within weeks, remember? These hospitals are all over the country now and can be utilised within hours. China can therefore be said to be well prepared for another Wuhan.

    @xoxo

    Having experienced and seen firsthand how the experts in China’s Health Agencies work, these jokers in MTF to me are like rookies playing 家家酒。

    If I may opine so, NONE of those clowns at MTF would be employable in a city-level C19 task force, at most in a county-level ones. lol

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  • Western Sheep:

    TKL’s friend is more reliable than your friend. Your friend talk cock about China, you swallow up.

    TKL’s friend’s info on this close loop method is accurate.

    I dare you to argue some more on this close loop method, then I pour the evidence on your head. Of course, no evidence will get into your head that is already filled with western propaganda (which you call “facts”).

    idontbelieveinccpbs: Your hearsay from a friend and repeat here? You mean TR Tech? Or Western Sheep?

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  • knnn:

    https://sg.bullshitter.com/news/probe-protester-beaten-inside-uk-161710284.html

    Probe as protester beaten inside UK Chinese consulate
    Tue, 18 October 2022 at 12:17 am

    STORY: UK police are investigating the apparent assault of a Hong Kong pro-democracy protester who was pulled into Chinese consulate grounds and beaten.

    WATCH THE VIDEO HERE TO FIND OUT THE TRUTH AND NOT TRY TO BS.

    Tech: It was an isolated incident, so just let the UK police run their investigation and let the law take its natural course. Pointless to speculate.

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  • admirer:

    There are extreme lovers like TR Tech and TKL, they love lock down.

    As far as I am concerned, most friends in China also support lock down but the thing I saw ironic is when they are being locked down, they were unhappy and angry. When it does not happen to you, you think its ok… when it happens to u, you suddenly shock.

    Of course there are some other places well taken care of but you need to know China is damn big, it is not just Shenzhen or Shanghai and they cannot take good care of ALL.

    One friend sent me a video of the food being delivered for family of any size, one bag of vegetables with a carrot, they threw them on the floor. They complained how to survive so many days…And everything you tell them the truth, they tell you its western propaganda trying to paint lousy picture of China. FYI THESE LOCK DOWN VIDEOS AND NEWS ARE FROM THE CITIZENS LIVING IN CHINA, THEY ARE NOT CREATED BY INTERNATIONAL NEWS.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    @Tech: It was an isolated incident, so just let the UK police run their investigation and let the law take its natural course. Pointless to speculate.

    CCP is well known to be aggressive and intimdating, to do this overseas is not isolated, it is the new normal. They had snatched people in Thailand, Hong Kong and US and shipped them via their embassies back to China. They have also threatened non Chinese citizens to return to China using their families in China as pawns. This is well known, not isolated as you claim everything is isolated or hearsay. As I have said, you are so pro that you will defend and find excuse. Everything against China is hearsay or isolated, even you see evidence. You are so hardcore.

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-expanding-international-reach-of-chinas-police/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/22/swedish-bookseller-allegedly-snatched-by-chinese-agents-from-train-gui-minhai

    https://safeguarddefenders.com/en/blog/involuntary-returns-report-exposes-long-arm-policing-overseas

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/03/activist-li-xin-vanished-in-thailand–held-in-china-says-wife

    Tech: You cite so many incidents which I won’t confirm or deny (since I am not privy to the details), can I take it to mean that you are implying that the PAPies in Sinkieland are whiter than white and therefore much superior and cleaner than the CCP? BTW, I said let the UK police investigate and then let the law take its natural course, that is defending?

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ I worked in China:

    How come theres 四通桥勇士?
    How come theres feedback from 吴尊 about Shanghai ?
    How come theres feedback from 李立群 ?
    How come theres 郎咸平 case ?

    Tech: The same I can ask of you, I worked in Sinkieland, how come there is cry father cry mother from Terry Xu, Leong Sze Hian, Han Hui Hui, etc etc etc? I tot Sinkieland sibei good and everyone is living comfortable and happy?

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  • @admirer

    Lockdowns are necessary and it is human nature to be agitated and angry, who wants to be locked down, right? But when it comes to that, better have an open mind and think for the greater good, that you won’t be infected and die from the C19, dio bo? You yourself know that China is very big, so all cannot be adequately taken care of, so in times like this, there are proper avenues both locally and country-wide to address the problems, you just need to know which number to call (including friends and relatives).

    Since the C19, it is REQUIRED that all community service centers maintain a list of all residents that are in the district which they serve. So in a lockdown, the staff MUST ensure that the oldies and goodies living alone, seriously ill are visited and taken care of. Even not during a lockdown, the staff also visit these people to see to their well-being. Anyway, from what I know (since there are a few from the center that have now become my family friends), whenever someone in a lockdown dies of hunger (there are a few cases), many heads are chopped, so it’s not something that the officials take lightly and ignore.

    But then honestly, I fail to see how someone could die of hunger in a lockdown, unless they are oldies but goodies living alone or in some ulu places. During the 4 months ONLY city-wide lockdown, the people in the estate which I live barter and share everything, from salt to rice, from sugar to coffee. Those who can leave would dabao for those who are on lockdown, we help each other. From spoilt TV to internet connectivity, to dripping taps and blown lightbulbs, all that was needed was a notice on the WeChat group and someone from the estate with the know-how would help fix. The family below mine had a broken modem and I gave my extra to them free. After the lockdown, they bought beef noodles for me and my wife, that’s how we help each other. Unless you are suggesting that such would never happen in Sinkieland during a lockdown and Sinkies being selfish in nature, would not even bother if their neighbors have no food?

    Oh on the food being delivered, it’s free and donated by businesses, it’s not government issued, complain simi? You cannot buy your own food issit? If a family really no money liao, there will be staff from the community center to assess and assist, the food they deliver will certainly be adequate for the entire family, that I am sure because one of my relatives (old couple) living in the village during the ONLY citywide lockdown could not buy food because they still use old mobile phone without payment apps, they only had cash but could not leave the village. The village secretary then arranged for free food to be delivered to their house for a few days until their son (locked down in Wuhan) bought food online for them, delivered from another nearby county. If the son was unable to buy the food online for them, there will be other relatives in the city that could do so.

    P/S: There are plenty of villages (村) in a county (县), and they can be miles apart. An estate (小区) in the city is usually very large, housing a number of blocks of apartments and fenced. Even during a complete lockdown, the residents of the estate can still go to the greenery in the estate to walk dogs, and talk cock, you are not locked 24/7 in the house. Those who deliver food are either business employees or volunteers, including doctors and nurses, issued with special passes than can zoom around the city during the lockdown.

    Nowadays, most lockdowns are not complete (city-wide) and movements are allowed in a closed loop. As long as you have a mobile phone, you can order online, ask a friend or relative to buy and deliver to you, etc etc etc. So tell me, with such arrangements, how could someone even starve to death in a lockdown?

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  • xoxo:

    @TRE Tech
    i agree with your views.
    Lockdowns are a useful weapon against the spread.
    Even China so huge still humble enough to respect the potency of Covid.
    Here,haphazard APPROACH from boastful OYK ,probably giving lousy advice as Health minister and top MTF elite to whoever.
    OYK cant even win a seat into PARLIAMENT by own merits?
    In that light,Ms Tin of I DUNNO WAT TO SAY is more capable,and,she just a mediocre at that?
    OYK will be proven to be a NATIONAL LIABILITY by and by.
    Arrogance cannot accompany true wisdom.
    Arrogance will mean a BIG FALL.

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  • @xoxo

    Unless Sinkies are really beyond hope, I maintain my view that Ong joker will be a liability to the party come GE and most probably will be thrown under the bus when things start going south on the vaccine mandate.

    Again, I pity those junior colleagues who would be thinking they could hopefully be parachuted into parliament under his coattails. lol

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  • @idontbelieve:

    “CCP is well known to be aggressive and intimdating,” by US standard, China police are so nice, so responsible, they don’t shoot you or press your neck down till you die.

    You criticise PAP at the same time spread hatred towards China. Where got people that stupid to endorse whatever you say.

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  • Western Sheep:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEz_GX1aw0w
    CHINA Don’t Stand Up For Yourself – That’s Aggressive!

    Western sheep, please watch this. It may be your last chance to cleanse your brain.

    @idontbelieve:
    “CCP is well known to be aggressive and intimdating,” by US standard, China police are so nice, so responsible, they don’t shoot you or press your neck down till you die.

    You criticise PAP at the same time spread hatred towards China. Where got people that stupid to endorse whatever you say.

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  • Western Sheep:

    Why you so desperate? You can only come up with “allegedly”, “supposedly”, “claimed”, “suspected”, … without a single confirmed case with evidence. When “you think”, it is the truth?

    Here are confirmed cases, full of evidence.

    Italian court finds CIA agents guilty of kidnapping terrorism …
    https://www.theguardian.com › world › nov › cia-guilt…
    Nov 4, 2009 — Italian court convicts Robert Lady and 23 others in absentia. First prosecution for US abduction of suspects to torture states.

    In cleric’s abduction in Italy, the CIA all but left a calling card
    https://www.icij.org › investigations › collateraldamage
    May 24, 2007 — According to the account of a witness later interviewed by the police, two men grabbed the cleric and shoved him inside. The van roared

    There are even more horrible cases. US POTUS gloriously announced drone missile killing of American citizens in other countries. Even totally innocent teenager American girl also killed by order from POTUS.

    Killing of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Killing_of_Abdulrahm…
    Abdulrahman Anwar al-Awlaki was a 16-year-old United States citizen who was killed while eating dinner at an outdoor restaurant in Yemen by a drone …

    idontbelieveinccpbs:

    CCP is well known to be aggressive and intimdating, to do this overseas is not isolated, it is the new normal. They had snatched people in Thailand, Hong Kong and US and shipped them via their embassies back to China. They have also threatened non Chinese citizens to return to China using their families in China as pawns. This is well known, not isolated as you claim everything is isolated or hearsay. As I have said, you are so pro that you will defend and find excuse. Everything against China is hearsay or isolated, even you see evidence. You are so hardcore.

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-expanding-international-reach-of-chinas-police/

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/22/swedish-bookseller-allegedly-snatched-by-chinese-agents-from-train-gui-minhai

    https://safeguarddefenders.com/en/blog/involuntary-returns-report-exposes-long-arm-policing-overseas

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/03/activist-li-xin-vanished-in-thailand–held-in-china-says-wife

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    https://sg.style.bullshitter.com/threat-alert-china-recruits-british-043350436.html

    https://sg.news.bullshitter.com/china-plans-annex-taiwan-moving-051124695.html

    People complain because Nancy Pelosis visited Taiwan so China is damn angry and need to show force. And think China is nice like angel, if Taiwan no visit by US politician or dont promote independence, China wont invade and keep status quo. Only bozos without brains think so.

    China is already ganging up with Russia to take over Artic and building naval bases every where so that if war breaks out, they can stand toe to toe with US and Nato.

    But people need to understand Xi wants to be the great conqueror who unite China, better than Mao, so the ambition to take it by force is there and will happen.

    Tech: Yahoo Sinkieland has a known bias against China, so everything they write cannot be trusted. I challenge you to cite one article they wrote which is neutral on China. BTW, I am also running very sick of you constantly quoting the bull of a shit from Yahoo, so I am banning the linking to of anything Yahoo on TRE, FYI.

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  • Billy ma:

    The writer’s friend must be a member of the communist party or paid by the party to spread the fake news to people like the writer.

    Try watching video of Chinese people complaining & then being manhandled by the communist police & the ‘people in white’

    So easy to be fooled.

    Tech: I always listen to the complete story, don’t accept only head but no tail contextual hearsay, so I can keep myself better informed and not be manipulated, I suggest you do too. The incident which you highlighted happened during a bank run, not due to a lockdown and almost all involved, including bank and county officials, have been arrested and dealt with, however, some senior bank officials have escaped the country. That’s the whole story.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    https://sg.bullshitter.com/style/scientists-america-top-nuclear-lab-061509746.html

    China is preparing for war.

    Tech: Ah… it proves that money makes the world go round. It happens in all countries, why should anyone be surprised?

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  • ah seng:

    Yahoo is just copying articles from other international source.

    TR Tech listened but his heart is hardcore.

    Show him many articles, he will just brush it as hearsay or western propaganda.

    China is of course getting ready to invade Taiwan, just that they worry they might become Russia in underestimating. Dont bs about if Taiwan does not declare independence, China will leave it as that.

    Xi is a dictator, aggressive and wants to be going down history as the GREAT LEADER just like Putin wanting to unite Soviet Union.

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  • Vaccine fiasco is surely getting interesting by the day. Latest BS from the pharmas exposed:

    http://www.tremeritus.net/2022/10/18/fda-adviser-new-covid-bivalent-boosters-offer-no-benefits/

    Time for booster shots as hoodwinked by MTF, hurry to avoid out of stock. lol

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  • I swallow western shot whole:

    So,giving opinions on China is CCP sheep.
    Now,who are swallowing western shit and quoting western propaganda like stupid parrots?
    Monkeys see what monkeys do.
    Parrots say what parrot swallow.
    Too much western shit is bad for the bird’s brain.

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  • @ah seng

    Would it be fair for me to say that whatever you posted above is just a matter of your opinion/belief and not a matter of fact? FYI, I do read and do bother to try to ‘listen’ to all arguments, no matter how bizarre they may seem. For example, Goh Meng Seng believes in ET and UFO, I did not shout BS right? That’s because the Universe is a very HUGE space and my knowledge of it is so very limited, so since I cannot confirm nor deny his claim, I choose to STFU and accord him the benefit of the doubt.

    I try very hard to make it a point to comment only on things that I know as a matter of fact or I have seen or experienced, if it’s an opinion that I am expressing, then I would clearly state that it is only “IMHO”.

    As for the Taiwan issue, you can show me 10,000 articles claiming that China will invade Taiwan and it still won’t change whatever is opined in the articles into facts. As long as China has not invaded Taiwan yet, it will forever remain as an opinion, not a matter of fact, would you agree?

    And BTW, with regards to me calling the clowns at MTF idiots, it is neither a fact nor an opinion, it is my belief. lol

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  • Dirt road:

    There’s really No hope for people who make fake milk powder.NO hope.

    Tech: Did you forget to add those who took the mRNA shots? Vaccine science says that their future generations will be screwed, also no hope right?

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  • I_am_Mike:

    I sincerely and truly hoped that CCP can continue zero-covid policy as long as it can. May be until 2025 ot 2030? Btw why TKL in SG? Not in a safer place like BJ or SH or GZ or XJ?

    And China should stop asking for source code of mRNA ‘vaccines’. Use the deactivated virus each time RNA virus mutate, each time use new ones can liao. Anyway, mRNA also no solution what…

    Lockdown as and when there are any covid cases. Good for China. Chinese love lockdowns. 中國人奴性不可小覷。

    The rest of the world must be dumb. 中国特色防疫清零绝对好!

    50c and Pinkies should be agreeing with me. Correct or cowrong?

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  • @ah Seng:

    Xi is a dictator? Why would a dictator do so much to lift hundreds of millions of people out of poverty including the all the minorities in the autonomous regions?

    Biden is a dictator to all countries on planet? Any country drops USD, dont relent to US demand will be sanctioned, overthrown, bombed, invaded by US.

    Who would a Chinese person call himself ah Seng?

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  • xoxo:

    Mighty u$a seems to be at war everywhere except in Mickey Mouse Country?
    Who suffer?
    Now,allow me to put it the other way round.
    Lets say Gen Chiang’s descendents try to conquer Motherland as was so dreamed by the general,will western suppoters then say it is right and just even if 1 Billion chinese in China oppose it?

    Let the Chinese people of Mainland and Taiwan try to resolve this without another war.
    The Covid-stricken world does not need another war.
    People are suffering everywhere.
    Maybe going to war is becoming a fave past time for recently fast-growing U$A.
    Printing more money,selling destructive weaon$ and

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  • xoxo:

    Selling more destructive weapon$ are so easy.

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  • @I_am_Mike

    Why your obsession with making sure that people in China live with the virus? Just because back home you screwed your future generations by being conned into taking the deadly shot and forced to live with the virus, you want the rest of teh world to join you?

    Sinkies made their choice (coerced or not) and so did the Chinese, you like to live among virus, suit yourself, Chinese no like virus, their choice also. China very HUGE and SUPER RICH, unlike Sinkieland they can afford to throw billions on lockdown sup sup the water, why you care? Spend your money issit?

    Little inconveniences to ensure that one does not die from complications arising from a virus infection, many may grumble but they still think it is worth it. Better than infect – recover – infect – recover – infect – recover, taxing the body’s immune system on a roller coaster ride, dio bo?

    Don’t like the policies, then stay away from China lor, who ask you to come? I kenna lockdown 4 months also no cry father cry mother, you cry father simi?

    Got so much time on your hands, go mate with your virus mate lar, heard the XBB is super hot and sexy, come here and make so much noise for fiack, as if the matter even concerns you. lol

    BTW, vaccine mixing is currently NOT recommended in China, so they even if got the mRNA code also for study nia, cannot meh? Besides, vaccination is PURELY voluntary, don’t like don’t take.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    China is the largest population in the world think over 1 billion chinese people .It cannot afford a full spread pandemic so it need a zero policy covid so that infection will not spread to other district by their internal travel which can be long distance internal buses,high speed rail or planes.If china don’t follow zero covid,its economy for the entire country will collapse.If closed diwn one district only,only that district will temporary suffers.The rest are still in operation to support .

    Tech: Finally someone with a brain that is not in the a$$e. lol

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  • I_am_Mike:

    TRE Tech: Why your obsession with making sure that people in China live with the virus?

    Oh, no no, i am not, SINCERELY hope ZERO-COVID policy can continue as long as possible, for the health of Chinese and thank you, do that for everyone else on earth. Every GREAT LEADER (emperor) of CHINA, don’t just comes and goes, they left some legacies.

    焚書坑儒,開疆闊土,抗美援朝,大煉鋼,文化大革命,南水北調,三峽大壩。
    清零大帝。

    TRE Tech: China very HUGE and SUPER RICH, unlike Sinkieland they can afford to throw billions on lockdown sup sup the water, why you care? Spend your money issit?

    Aiyo, mai like that lah. If I disagree, say me banana; if i care, say why i care… good policies must promote mah. TKL promote it, is China TK, i help promote it say i go mate with virus… lol… 天理何在包大人!

    You kena lockdown 4 months nia? Aiyo, for the good of everyone’s health, 4 years also nothing lah. Got plenty resources to lockdown, why worry? No worry, me no worry, lock as long as possible, 好棒棒.

    TRE Tech: Got so much time on your hands, go mate with your virus mate lar, heard the XBB is super hot and sexy, come here and make so much noise for fiack, as if the matter even concerns you. lol

    I really care, the longer 清零宗 can hold on to Zero-covid policy, the better (for all of us). You should not doubt that. If he start allowing China to mate with, no, wrong, to live with virus, how? Like that all the FDIs leaving will be wasting effort. Correct or co-wrong?

    That’s why it is heartbroken to say me no care. *sob*

    Btw, XBB is it extra big? 真猥褻。

    Tech: OK OK, I sense sarcasm, but gib you benefit of the doubt, believe you one time. He He.

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  • Western Sheep:

    There is a big herd of persistent western sheep here. Their modus operandi is to rebro, eh, vomit, western propaganda. Fake data. Fake story. Fake accusation.

    Even when fully exposed, they SHAMELESSLY continue with the same propaganda.

    US already budget $300 million for anti-China propaganda. The vomit supply for western sheep is endless. They claim support from many western media, Yahoo, CNN, Guardian, Dailymail, ABC, BBC, Asahi, rfa, Taipei Times, SPH, etc. They are repeating the same propaganda 10, 20, 30 times.

    These sheep are zealous. They make up more fake data and fake stories of their own. “US never kill any Asians since WW1.” “Colonial masters are not responsible for enslaving Africans.”

    Soccerbetting2:
    China is the largest population in the world think over 1 billion chinese people .It cannot afford a full spread pandemic so it need a zero policy covid so that infection will not spread to other district by their internal travel which can be long distance internal buses,high speed rail or planes.If china don’t follow zero covid,its economy for the entire country will collapse.If closed diwn one district only,only that district will temporary suffers.The rest are still in operation to support .

    Tech: Finally someone with a brain that is not in the a$$e. lol

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  • knnn:

    I am very happy China continues to lock down, better they love and continue, and TKL and TR will say it is doing good to their health and economy.

    Better lock down and dont open.
    Decouple itself from West or whatever, as long as they happy.

    TKL should move to China since it is so hard core like TR Tech. Everything on news is hearsay and not confirmed according to them. Their eyes and ears only have any pro China news.

    Lets us not focus on what China wants to do to its country and citizens, it is not our business. Until now, I have not seen any news that promote China helping the rest of the war except support Russia and intimidating Taiwan. Lets wait for this giant to offer some good news about doing good for all countries.

    Tech: Apparently for Sinkies living in a well, ignorance is a blessing?

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  • xoxo:

    Angmohs enthusiastically decided to invest in China and dropped Taiwan a couple of decades ago,no one forced them to.
    And,was China *NOT MORE COMMUNISTIC* then than it is now?
    Envy is toxin.
    Just becos China is fast becoming an economic powerhouse,angmohs are unhappy about it.It is obvious.
    CHINA IS IN FACT MORE OPEN THAN EVER BEFORE.
    MAYBE angmohs cannot stand *losing out* or are KIASU ?
    In truth,BUAY SONG of China’s leapfrog progress.
    If China did start Covid,it is sinful and will have its retribution.
    And,if angmohs have started it ,they will face their Karma too.
    We are all watching…
    TRUTH WILL SHINE FORTH BY AND BY.
    WE ALL HAVE EYES TO SEE.

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  • xoxo:

    And,who can argue that Ageing population may not be the KARMIC REACTION to the Evil Act if Abortion?

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  • hahaha:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/uk-should-deal-with-assault-hong-kong-protester-line-with-local-laws-hk-leader-2022-10-18/

    HONG KONG/BEIJING/LONDON, Oct 18 (Reuters) – Britain told China’s Charge d’Affaires in London that the right to peaceful protest must be respected, after he was summoned to explain an incident in which a protester was seen being pulled into the grounds of a Chinese consulate and beaten.

    British police are investigating the incident, which occurred in Manchester, England during a demonstration against Chinese President Xi Jinping. Officers entered the consulate grounds to rescue a man who they said “was dragged” inside and assaulted by several men.

    “They are like gangsters, you know, doing things like gangsters. It shouldn’t be like that. It’s not in China you know. This is the UK,” Bob told the news channel.

    The incident was triggered when several men came out of the consulate to take down protest banners, including one with the slogan: “Heaven will destroy the Chinese Communist Party”, and a caricature of Xi wearing a crown.

    ———————The truth is out———————
    CCP London sent its people to go out on the street to destroy the posters and dragged the protestor and have been beaten up inside. Although it has immunity, this is on foreign soil and peaceful protest is allowed. But CCP as usual, just like what they did in Thailand, HK and China, they take laws into their own hands. When caught, they spinned story.

    But of course, TR Tech will say its isolated, hearsay, western propaganda and will say its unconfirmed. Good thing this news NOT from Yahoo, he will also say Yahoo has agenda against China.

    Tech: Don’t put words in my mouth. I said let the incident be investigated by the UK police and then let the law take its natural course. Your supposed truth is another report by the media, is this the official police statement? If it’s not, then shouldn’t we wait for the police to conclude their investigation instead of jumping to conclusions?

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  • georgia:

    China insists on zero covid policy is because of guilt complex. The virus source in all likelihood is from China. Denial and accusation of other countries being the source is no used. Only blind China supporters believed in their bluff.

    Another reason is those China covid19 vaccine all ineffective. Jab or not will get badly hit and death rate will be very high.

    Tech: What a load of crap, can you prove anything you have alleged? I would like to believe that the C19 was created by Modena because they were studying it in 2017, by their own admission, also possible right?

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  • Anonymous:

    PRC does not like OPPOSITION. the virus is an OPPOSITION.

    So PRC cannot tahan like Sinkies with $million HDB flat…….die die they say AFFORDABLE.

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  • Totally brainwashed:

    It’s reuters, it’s the truth! hahaha.

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  • Totally brainwashed:

    They read only western propaganda. Reuters is the truth! When will they get to read good news about China?

    knnn: use they need not pay their housing loans/cards anymore and can delay the payment. Some even like the sneeking out to buy food, work, etc. In my case, I had a medical certification from the doctor that require me then, to visit the hospital daily for tests for 7 days. So they gave me a car sticker so I can leave the estate and zoom around the city (plenty of road blocks) to do that and also since I reside in an estate full

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    https://www.ft.com/content/b551537c-2cc1-4412-a4d6-45907128bc04?ftcamp=traffic/partner/feed_headline/us_yahoo/auddev

    UK police open probe into assault of protester inside Chinese consulate

    Condemning the incident, Ms Kearns told the Commons: “We cannot allow the CCP [Chinese Communist Party] to import their beating of protesters, their silencing of free speech and their failure to allow time and time again protests on British soil. This is a chilling escalation.”

    Labour’s Afzal Khan, MP for Manchester Gorton, said he was “sickened that such an event took place in my own constituency”.

    He added: “These scenes … have no place on the streets of my city, or our country. The UK stands for freedom, the rule of law, and democracy. The quashing of peaceful protests will never be tolerated on British soil.”

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  • One sided story:

    What does the photo show?

    See the protestor’s left arm? Damn, he was pulling a consulate worker outward! The poor worker’s left and right colleagues held on to him, so that he did not get pulled out by the protestor.

    That’s assault on the consulate worker.

    The photo shows the truth. The words by the protestors and reporters are western propaganda to protect themselves. But, no use, this photo alone is damning enough.

    hahaha:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/uk-should-deal-with-assault-hong-kong-protester-line-with-local-laws-hk-leader-2022-10-18/

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  • Londoner Luminaries absolute:

    The truth?

    Those “protesters “ of Hong Kong origin could be on Scotland Yard payrolls.

    The whole saga could have been engineered by very higher up to create opportunities to gaslight CCP in bad light again!

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  • xoxo:

    Human lives?
    What about the MILLIONS OF INNOCENT UNBORN
    BABIES KILLED/MASSACRED by exemplary WESTERN DEMOCRATIC LAWS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
    IS THAT RIGHTFUL JUST BECOS WESTERNERS STARTED MAKING IT LAWFUL?
    Oh come on,these BABIES ARE DEFENCELESS unlike adults who can carry arms and fight like the Ukrainians?
    Unborn babies never voted democratically for WESTERN-ORIGINATED ABORTION LAW,ya?

    Lets STOP THE DEEP HYPOCRISY ONCE AND FOR ALL.
    GOD BLESS us all with goodness,angmohs or others.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ Luckily, China has begun implementing a slew of policies aimed at helping the debtors get out of the mess that they are in so that the banks would not be burdened by a mountain of bad debts.

    Too premature for any conclusions. Until its out of the woods , its not out yet.

    @ The same I can ask of you, I worked in Sinkieland, how come there is cry father cry mother from Terry Xu, Leong Sze Hian, Han Hui Hui, etc etc etc? I tot Sinkieland sibei good and everyone is living comfortable and happy?

    Fair fair. Reasonable answer.

    Regardless Terry, Leong, Han or Roy, they still get to crowdfunding to settle. Leong can even act cocky. What show middle finger ….

    Same fiasco happen in China what will happen to them ? Nobody knows exactly right.
    At least nobody beat them up in sg. They can see a lawyer right.
    They still get to vote against PAP. They still can vote WP SDP PSP NSP…etc They can even run for election if they want to. 39% can still vote and their votes still not in favor of PAP. But 61% in favor.

    How many percent China citizens allow to vote ? 0.01% ? Not even close right. Any opposition parties allowed ? HK majority ngos close shop if not all.

    @The truth?
    Those “protesters “ of Hong Kong origin could be on Scotland Yard payrolls.
    The whole saga could have been engineered by very higher up to create opportunities to gaslight CCP in bad light again!

    Warp logic.
    You dont throw punches at HK protesters you dont beat them up , who can gaslight CCP in bad light. The most you shout back at the protesters only with a megaphone speaker or whatever.

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  • @PAP mandate strong

    If I tell you that people in China do actually get to vote and be voted, you will say I shitting bull, then i will have to write a long story explaining everything, sibei tiring.

    So I am not going to argue with you, you say no voting then no voting lor, you happy can liao.

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  • Western Sheep:

    Clap clap clap.

    The ignorance of western sheep has no limit.

    TRE Tech:
    @PAP mandate strong

    If I tell you that people in China do actually get to vote and be voted, you will say I shitting bull, then i will have to write a long story explaining everything, sibei tiring.

    So I am not going to argue with you, you say no voting then no voting lor, you happy can liao.

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  • only stupid people vote pap:

    I worked in China:
    In my Shenzhen district, the lock down is not full lock down. I can go outside of my district twice per day. I go out once per day to work. As it’s so efficient to order everything online I order food and groceries online.

    Don’t listen to western media and people like idontbelieve and mike先生。The former sounds like non Singaporean Chinese who trying stir up hatred towards China and her people. The latter sounds like a pro independence Taiwanese or HK people.

    Tech: Very true, people who have never been in a lockdown thought that a lockdown means you go to prison, lol. With the exception of maybe the initial Wuhan lockdown that was very strict, many lockdowns were very flexible and maybe even fun for some of us. Some welcome the lockdown because they need not pay their housing loans/cards anymore and can delay the payment. Some even like the sneeking out to buy food, work, etc. In my case, I had a medical certification from the doctor that require me then, to visit the hospital daily for tests for 7 days. So they gave me a car sticker so I can leave the estate and zoom around the city (plenty of road blocks) to do that and also since I reside in an estate full of doctors and nurses (working in the city hospitals), most of us just zoom past the secutiry gate without any issue, just need to go through a temp scanner can liao. lol

    Very well said.

    Sometimes, the stupidest people are folks here in TRE with Chinese skin colour but call themselves ang mo names like mike and such.

    When we say here in TRE, we don’t mean them to be sinkies but they are clearly – non Singaporean Chinese trying stir up hatred towards China and her people, people who are pro independence Taiwanese or HK people.

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  • only stupid people vote pap:

    ah seng:
    Yahoo is just copying articles from other international source.

    TR Tech listened but his heart is hardcore.

    Show him many articles, he will just brush it as hearsay or western propaganda.

    China is of course getting ready to invade Taiwan, just that they worry they might become Russia in underestimating. Dont bs about if Taiwan does not declare independence, China will leave it as that.

    Xi is a dictator, aggressive and wants to be going down history as the GREAT LEADER just like Putin wanting to unite Soviet Union.

    Don’t be misled. Not everyone in Taiwan wants to be independent of China.

    Those with businesses in China, the upper crust of Taiwanese society, all want to be linked to China.

    And if you don’t know, movies mimic reality. From all the Taiwanese movies and dramas, everyone can see the Taiwanese people are actually very stupid folks as they are. They need smarter folks to rule them, so that they can start to be smarter.

    In other words, in sinkie land, the stupid sinkies need a different people to rule them to stop them from being so stupid as they are now.

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  • only stupid people vote pap:

    Londoner Luminaries absolute:
    The truth?

    Those “protesters “ of Hong Kong origin could be on Scotland Yard payrolls.

    The whole saga could have been engineered by very higher up to create opportunities to gaslight CCP in bad light again!

    Very true. Very well said.

    This brings to mind pap abusing S$180m pa of sinkie money to prop up pap States Times so that pap can use pap States Times to engineer opportunities to write bad things about OPPO.

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  • xoxo:

    The blind faith of angmoh-philes here is beyond stupid.
    Even if their get screwed,they will still say *very good*.
    It is so obvious from their daft comments here.

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  • StevenSpielberg:

    Londoner Luminaries absolute:
    The truth?

    Those “protesters “ of Hong Kong origin could be on Scotland Yard payrolls.

    The whole saga could have been engineered by very higher up to create opportunities to gaslight CCP in bad light again!

    Don’t care whether from what Brit’s d0gyard. Stupid ‘hongkies’ thought in Brit’s territory can create ruckus and cursing; cannot touch them. The embassy staff right to pull them inside Chinese territory and whacked them. Should have pulled out all his hairs and shaft a big angmoh’s rubber dildo into his mouth.

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  • PAP mandate strong:

    @ Sometimes, the stupidest people are folks here in TRE with Chinese skin colour but call themselves ang mo names like mike and such.

    Nice try but try harder.
    Because why do you write in english and not chinese. And you call yourself chinese.
    I hope to see your future comments written in chinese only. Written in english equals ang mo propaganda. Therefore you write in english also propaganda.

    @ The truth?
    Those “protesters “ of Hong Kong origin could be on Scotland Yard payrolls.
    The whole saga could have been engineered by very higher up to create opportunities to gaslight CCP in bad light again!

    Happens before historically.
    https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/zh-my/火烧英国代办处事件

    @ This brings to mind pap abusing S$180m pa of sinkie money to prop up pap States Times so that pap can use pap States Times to engineer opportunities to write bad things about OPPO.

    Not really true. On tv, is it channel 5 or 8 or cna program i cannot remember but they praise some food or dish from Mr Chee’s Orange and Teal. In fact i remember it was 1st of the top 3.

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  • MarBowling:

    StevenSpielberg:
    October 19, 2022 at 5:30 pm (Quote)
    Londoner Luminaries absolute:
    The truth?
    Those “protesters “ of Hong Kong origin could be on Scotland Yard payrolls.
    The whole saga could have been engineered by very higher up to create opportunities to gaslight CCP in bad light again!
    Don’t care whether from what Brit’s d0gyard. Stupid ‘hongkies’ thought in Brit’s territory can create ruckus and cursing; cannot touch them. The embassy staff right to pull them inside Chinese territory and whacked them. Should have pulled out all his hairs and shaft a big angmoh’s rubber dildo into his mouth.

    Response: Good One! The Trouble-Maker with the Farking Western Sheepish Ponytail is damn farking LUCKY as he Kenna only a few scratches on his FFACE! Must be a HK Pro-Demo-crazy MF who has made a GREAT ESCAPE to UK only RECENTLY. Couldn’t be A LOONG PERIOD as he spoke farking BROKEN ENGLISH!

    UK Authority better KIV this MF and keep a CLOSER WATCH on him.

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  • SINGAROAR:

    Why is the vaccination nos. low in China? Didn’t China vaccinate it’s citizens with Sinopharm and SinoVac? China even donated millions of vaccines to poor countries. There must be a valid reason for the lockdown. Anyway,there is nothing to complain about as at least the infected Chinese won’t be infecting others as what happened in 2020. 7 million infected Chinese traveled to various parts of the world and the pandemic started.

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  • Wuhan from first week:

    Yes if CCP did not do the cover-up, the world would not have heard of COVID.
    ”7 Feb 2020 — Dr. Li Wenliang issued a warning about a strange new virus. Then the authorities summoned him for questioning.”
    In Feb 2020, China forgot it has 1 billion to protect???
    Let’s us not forget Dr. Li Wenliang—he tried to save the world and China.
    CCP failed him.
    Dictatorship is very dangerous for the world.
    Whether is Putin’s Nukes or Wuhan Virus—it may destroy mankind.

    Soccerbetting2:
    China is the largest population in the world think over 1 billion chinese people .It cannot afford a full spread pandemic so it need a zero policy covid so that infection will not spread to other district by their internal travel which can be long distance internal buses,high speed rail or planes.If china don’t follow zero covid,its economy for the entire country will collapse.If closed diwn one district only,only that district will temporary suffers.The rest are still in operation to support .

    Tech: Finally someone with a brain that is not in the a$$e. lol

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  • Me support opposition:

    Tan Kin Lian talk cock again. He should give up his Singapore citizenship and be citizen of China since he like to criticise Singapore and praise China so much.

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  • Foreigners everywhere:

    So many CCP and Russian lovers here.

    Spinning story

    A protestor has suddenly become spy and conspiracy.

    We point out, now we are accused of being stirrer of hatred towards CCP.

    CCP lovers really can spin story and twist fact.

    Love CCP so much? Move to China like TR Tech.

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  • Foreigners everywhere:

    For your information, according to poll, majority of Taiwanese do not want to return to China, worsened after they saw what happened to HK.

    Not everyone is a Mickey mouse like TKL or GMS or CCP lovers who crave to embrace dictatorship.

    If u love dictatorship so much, migrate there. Don’t bs us with your fake info.

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  • knnn:

    CCP Autocracy type of action.

    Thomas Kingsley
    Thu, 20 October 2022 at 2:53 am

    Bob Chan says he was dragged by masked men into the consulate (Screengrab )

    A Hong Kong protestor who was beaten in the grounds of the Chinese consulate in Manchester said he fears for his family.

    Speaking at a news conference in London, Bob Chan described how he tried to defend himself as a group of men hit and attempted to drag him into the embassy gates before he was rescued by Manchester police.

    He said he could not believe the attack could happen in the UK.

    “I am shocked and hurt by this unprovoked attack. I’m shocked because I never thought something like this could happen in the UK. I still believe the UK is a place where free speech is a basic human right,” Mr Chan said.

    Scuffles broke out outside the building on Sunday afternoon after 30 to 40 pro-democracy protesters gathered and put up posters.

    Mr Chan had to be rescued by police after being dragged into the grounds of the consulate and beaten. The injured campaigner said that unidentified men had ripped down the posters before he was attacked.

    UK police are not normally allowed to enter consulate grounds without permission. The properties fall under UK law, but staff who work there may have diplomatic immunity.

    Mr Chan thanked the police officers who came to his aid during the attack where he said his hair was pulled and he was punched and kicked leaving him with bruises on his eyes, back and shoulders.

    Describing the attack, Mr Chan said he tried to stop the men from taking his display before violence broke out.

    “I held onto the gates where I was kicked and punched I could not hold on for long,” he said.

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  • @SINGAROAR

    Ah, very good question you have there, so I would spend some time answering that to the best of my knowledge.

    For starters, the Chinese did not claim that their vaccines are 100% effective against the C19 from the onset. They officially said (it HELPS to build resistance) but the result depends on each individual, since the health status of each individual is different, it is therefore not a one-size fit solution.

    2. Most with underlying conditions are NOT ALLOWED (clear directive by their MOH) to be vaccinated. Unlike the doctors in Sinkieland where the MOH literally have their balls in its hand, the doctors in China are not under any pressure to ensure vaccination, they are therefore free to assess their patients’ conditions and fitness for vaccination and then write a medical certification to that effect and that certification cannot be revoked by any other doctors, without the consent of the attending doctor (mostly specialist), cast in stone in a medical database and is valid throughout the country.

    Generally speaking, all patients with serious underlying conditions and mental illness CANNOT be vaccinated unless cleared by their attending doctor. A patient may hop from hospital to hospital (all medical cases during the C19 have to be referred to hospital, hard to find clinics that are in operation) seeing many doctors, but the medical info has since been centralised and accessible by all hospitals, so there will always be a record of who and which doctor initially attended to the patient for that particular serious illness, along with medication and recommendations, etc.

    If the latest attending doctor thinks that he/she is confident and capable of deciding that the patient can be vaccinated, then he/she can issue the go-ahead certification and will be fully liable for whatever happened to the patient after the vaccination within the ‘observation’ period (can’t remember how long the period is). Unlike in Sinkieland where the doctors are well protected from lawsuits on anything vaccine-related, these doctors and their hospitals can be sued, but mostly settled out of court.

    A point to note is that there will be other doctors at the vaccination center that will assess the patient (with an underlying condition) again and he/she has the final say on whether to proceed with the vaccination or not, regardless of what the attending doctor/s said about the patient being fit for vaccination. Most will just respect the attending doctor’s decision to ok the vaccination but some have been known to reject vaccination to patients based on fresh evidence, for example, the patient is pregnant, newly married and wants to have a baby, breastfeeding, HBP discovered on site, etc. Patients without underlying conditions (never been to the hospital), will be solely assessed by the doctors at the vaccination center.

    Since those unfit for vaccination won’t even be at the vaccination center at all, but there are times when some over-zealous village officials will cater a bus to coerce villagers to go get mass-vaccinate (they wrongly thought vaccination got quota, looks good on their annual performance report), only to be rejected by the vaccination doctors as almost all of these doctors dare not go against the attending doctor’s certification (of unfit for vaccination). From my dinner chit-chat with doctor friends, no vaccination doctor has ever overridden an attending doctor on those unfit for vaccination, as far as their hospital is concerned. I also learned that some over-zealous village officials who have tried to interfere in the vaccination doctor’s decision (to not vax) have been reported (by the vaccination doctors) and sacked.

    Anyway, to cut to the chase, vaccination is STRICTLY and PURELY voluntary in China, so if you do not want to be vaccinated, then just don’t, no need the WHYs.

    That should explain why the vaccination rate in China is only about 80% compared to Sinkieland where vaccination is almost forced down the throats of its Sillizens.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    Wow footage showed Chinese consul-general pulled protestor into the ground where UK police has limited power. And quickly feigned ignorance and denial.
    But CCP lovers would say protestor barged into embassy trying to behave like HK protestors or leave it to investigation.

    Only CCP has such audacity to do this in foreign soil because they think they tuaki and above the law.

    —————————————————————————

    The IndependentThe Independent
    Chinese diplomat defends grabbing Hong Kong protester’s hair in Manchester
    Lamiat Sabin
    Thu, 20 October 2022 at 7:21 am

    The Chinese consul-general has denied claims that he attacked a pro-democracy Hong Kong protester in an incident in Manchester.

    Footage appears to show diplomat Zheng Xiyuan had pulled Bob Chan over to the grounds of the Chinese consulate, in Rusholme, by his hair.

    It’s alleged that – when on the consulate’s grounds – staff then beat Mr Chan, leaving him with cuts and bruises on his body, during the incident on Sunday.

    Mr Chan was part of a group outside China’s consulate protesting against the 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party.

    A group of unidentified men wearing face masks came out of the building and began tearing down posters and scuffled with the demonstrators who tried to stop them. Police intervened by pulling the men apart.

    But, as Mr Chan was pulled onto the grounds of the consulate, police had limited powers.

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  • knn:

    SINGAROAR:
    Why is the vaccination nos. low in China? Didn’t China vaccinate it’s citizens with Sinopharm and SinoVac? China even donated millions of vaccines to poor countries. There must be a valid reason for the lockdown. Anyway,there is nothing to complain about as at least the infected Chinese won’t be infecting others as what happened in 2020. 7 million infected Chinese traveled to various parts of the world and the pandemic started.

    You simpleton spreading lies again.

    Countries using Chinese vaccines did not suffer the kind of wild infection rates like the US, Europe, Japan, South Korea and many more using fake American vaccines. Go and look up the world statistics on infections.

    The top countries are the western countries. They spread among themselves. No need to wear mask, open up, no need to check, mass participation events….

    Countries using fake American vaccines, the more they jabbed the more the infection.

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  • knn:

    georgia:
    China insists on zero covid policy is because of guilt complex. The virus source in all likelihood is from China. Denial and accusation of other countries being the source is no used. Only blind China supporters believed in their bluff.

    Another reason is those China covid19 vaccine all ineffective. Jab or not will get badly hit and death rate will be very high.

    Tech: What a load of crap, can you prove anything you have alleged? I would like to believe that the C19 was created by Modena because they were studying it in 2017, by their own admission, also possible right?

    Georgia, an American hillbilly or ignorant Singapore Ah Beng?

    Go and see the charts put up by CNA to see which are the countries that are having tens of millions or hundreds of millions of infection and ask what vaccines they used. Definitely not Chinese vaccines.

    They used the most effective vaccines, mRNA, most effective in getting infected after vaccinated. The statistics did not lie.

    Tech: The mRNA vaccines have been a con, the numbers that are reported merely shows the number of people who are conned into receiving the deadly jab, not the effectiveness of the vaccine, some jokers just don’t understand stats. lol

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  • xoxo:

    @TRE Tech
    Statistically,for such a Big Country,i would say 80 pct is a decent number considering that huge numbers of TRIBAL PEOPLE live in isolated n secluded parts of China.

    In $in City,the daft scholars are afraid their CROWDING-OUT of tiny SG with such high numbers of aliens would likely cause wider n faster contagion and so attempt to vaccinate 100 pct of people here,hoping to mitigate the spread of infection like buying insurance.

    By doing such,many with underlying conditions suffered fatality as they sbud not be vaccinated owing to risks as shown by China where those with underlying conditions need not take vaccine?

    So,the rush to crowd out Sg with so many FTs is a cpntributive factor to spread of infectious diseases like Covid.

    But whatever,mandatory vaccination has proven daft as even unvax aliens from risk cointries are allowed to enter into TINY SG.

    MANY SEEN NOT TO WEAR MASKS.

    I notice Ah Nehs n Angmohs.

    So,expect higher spread soon.

    STUPID!

    Tech: Possibility which I won’t dismiss. On an aside, someone jokingly told me that in order to be unvaccinated LEEgally in SInkieland, you need to be either dying or an ELITE member of the party and/or a famiLEE member. He also jokingly told me that it is very highly probable that of teh 300 LEEgally unvaccinated in Sinkieland, all are from these class. While it may be a joke to him, but I inclined to believe it. What do you think?

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  • xoxo:

    @Tech

    The joker may be right.
    No joke,man!
    So,i still salute XJP for his decisiveness on ZERO COVID policy.
    Whats the rush(to increase risks)?
    Many blind-faith angmoh worshippers laugh at China ‘s Zero Covid policy but they are also the ones who point finger at China for *originating* Covid?
    So,whats wrong with China taking precautions to protect its people and any *unforeseen* imported problem?

    In any case and at any rate,China is more and more open than ever before.
    The WESTERN SLIMING(SLAMMING) IS BORN OUT OF GREAT ENVY AND PROPAGANDIST.
    LIKE I SAY,IF YOU VALUE HUMAN LIVES N DIGNITY,WHY MASSACRE DEFENCELESS INNOCENT UNBORN BABIES?
    UNBORN BABIES ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS?
    THE POT MUST NOT CALL THE KETTLE BLACK.

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  • xoxo:

    Lets be truthful.
    The manner ONG YOU CON goes about administering the Covid policies is like a speculator trading Bitcoins(highly dangerous) hoping for *QUICK SHORT-TERM GAIN$* instead of INVESTING CAREFULLY N JUDICIOUSLY FOR LONG-TERM WEALH(HEALTH OF THE NATION).
    He has already shown himself a NATIONAL LIABILITY many times.

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  • BK:

    Lol. Everyone is cherry picking to be honest. In 2020, China’s bureacracy cannot handle new facts, impulses, information etc. It is an insitution that fears upsetting the higher ups. This is the nature of a bureacracy in an authoritarian state.

    They suppressed the whistle blowers.

    “Chinese authorities made serious mistakes in December and January including the persecution of whistleblowers by local officials. (Key provincial leaders involved in the early cover-up have since been removed including the Party Secretaries of Hubei Province and Wuhan City.) But, on the most critical decision, China’s central government made the right call.”

    China made an impt decision to lock down Wuhan. It did save China and bought time for the rest of the world. Remember in 2020, China got it under control, the West did not. But again, this speaks about the nature of the societies, democracy vs authoritarian regimes.

    Now, whether the current lockdown is a continuation to “protect” China vs “protecting” Xi’s image, we will have a clearer picture post the CCP meeting to elect Xi.

    But whats impt is Singapore, extracts from “pro China” George Yeo:

    1.Whatever we say or do, the fact is that many countries factor Singapore’s Chinese-ness into their planning and calculations. For this reason, Lee Kuan Yew held back diplomatic relations with China until Indonesia had done so. To some extent, we have succeeded in convincing other countries that while Singapore has close cultural ties to China; on political matters, we calculate in our own self-interest.

    2. Something had happened. My belief was that Vietnam had come to the conclusion that Singapore was not an agent of China and could become a strategic partner. On Khai’s next visit to Singapore in 2004, the two countries launched the Connectivity Initiative, which I helped put together for Goh Chok Tong.

    3. In 1989, I was asked by Lee Kuan Yew to announce in Parliament that Singapore would allow US military forces in the Pacific to use our base facilities after the closure of Clark Air Base and Subic Bay.

    Without the US, Singapore could not be sure that the Straits of Malacca and Singapore Strait, which are our lifelines, would always be kept open. Lee Kuan Yew was, however, very clear that should there be conflict between the US and China over Taiwan, Singapore would not be involved. I don’t believe that position has changed despite close defence links between Singapore and the US.

    4. Who we are is not only who we think we are, but also how others see us. We have to be aware of the games which big powers play, whether to influence us or to sow seeds of suspicion here.

    Lets be very clear we are Singaporean Chinese, not Chinese Singaporeans.

    Tech: Errr.. BK, on point 1, the difference between Sinkieland’s and Chinese authorities is that the Chinese are willing to admit their mistakes and take action to correct them, as opposed to Sinkieland’s no blame culture, dio bo?

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  • Western Sheep:

    Wow, so much sheep vomit of western “news”. However, no sheep can dispute this simple analysis of a telling photo.

    One sided story:
    What does the photo show?

    See the protestor’s left arm? Damn, he was pulling a consulate worker outward! The poor worker’s left and right colleagues held on to him, so that he did not get pulled out by the protestor.

    That’s assault on the consulate worker.

    The photo shows the truth. The words by the protestors and reporters are western propaganda to protect themselves. But, no use, this photo alone is damning enough.

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  • SINGAROAR:

    @TR Tech
    80% population is a high figure.Is China telling the world, vaccines don’t work? If yes,China should remove it’s vaccines like Sinopharm and SinoVac.I am a recipient of Sinovac and suffered breathlessness for two months with other side effects after the booster.

    Tech: If you ask the experts at the MTF, they would say it is not due to the vaccine, wanna bet? Since it is not due to the vaccine, then why you say it was SinoVac that caused it? You like to extrapolate and put words in others mouth, unknowing readers would be easilly hoodwinked by you, but sorry, not me. Go try it on someone else and don’t waste my time. BTW, Sinkieland has 95% that are vaccinated, mostly with mRNA ones, do they work?

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  • One sided story:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQm3UHXAU_0

    Watch the entire video, see closely around 1.40 and the beginning. The protester’s leg in white and black clothing gave a strong kick to a consulate worker already on the floor.

    This video is even more damning. The protesters assaulted China consulate workers. It is clear from the video that the protesters assault them all the way into the compound. At least two protesters – one wearing black and one wearing red.

    China must take action to ensure the safety of Chinese diplomats.

    These protesters are likely holding UK passports. The issue is about UK citizens assaulting China diplomats.

    BIG ISSUE. These UK citizens followed their PM in treating Chinese as enemy #1.

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  • One sided story:

    These are unbiased comments on that youtube video:

    This is the most complete video while all other Media had clipped away a part that showed the Chinese Embassy staff being dragged down on the floor and kicked at in the very beginning.

    Most would say a man ( the victim ) was dragged inside and being beaten on the floor, but look closer, the man on the floor was the Chinese in Beige pants and Red jacket. The so called victim was bending over with hand griping tight to the other Chinese man, looks like he was trying to beat the fallen man . and it seemed that he would not let go. Thats why the others had to punch him so that he would go.

    Another point here, why would the police kept shouting ” Get back , move back” if there were not people trying to get in. And it also looked like that the police was furious snatching the protestor out and threw them away like dirt. a a man with a colorful back pack was thrown out . That means Police thought the protestors were not doing the right thing.

    I agree with you. The consulate official should not have smashed the banners that were not placed directly on the fence of the consulate property — those were actually placed in the neighbor property. However, just like what you have said, those protestors kicked at the consulate worker’s head when the worker was already down on the ground. That was WAY too much.

    The other point is that according to a different video, there was a still picture showing the consulate workers “seemingly” were pulling a protestor into the consulate. But in the same picture, we can see that the consulate official had raised his leg pointing at the protestor; this tells me that the protestor was trying to get in, and the consulate official was trying to kick him out. Therefore, the protestor’s story of being pulled into the consulate doesn’t add up.

    Honestly the protestor creditability is very low based on their behavior in 2019 Hong Kong Protest/Riot. I won’t take what they said in face value.

    Look at how the so called victim was throw away when the police pulled him out.
    I suggest people to watch the video a few more times and check it out. With these HK new comers , there will be no more peaceful days in UK.

    An embassy staff was kicked fiercefully (1’39″).
    Another embassy staff was pulled back and wrestled to ground by 3 HKees (17″)

    ASSAULT demonstrators? Take a look at 1’40″. The staff was kicked several times by two rioters even when he was sitting on the ground.

    I noticed, this interviewee (black hoodie and black trousers ) claimed been “dragged” and “ beaten” was actually attacking an yellow trousers red jacket man inside the gate and won’t let go, that’s why more and more employee start to beat him in order to make him let go of the yellow trousers guy. And as soon as he let go, then the yellow trousers guy can get up from the ground, and they push him out. He is the intruder forcing himself into the gate and attacking someone inside and won’t let go.

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  • xoxo:

    Are the side effects from taking Sinovac and Sinopharm Covid vaccines worse than those from mRNA vaccines manufactured by the West?
    Even panadols have side effects on some people?

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  • BK:

    Yo @Tech

    Tech: Errr.. BK, on point 1, the difference between Sinkieland’s and Chinese authorities is that the Chinese are willing to admit their mistakes and take action to correct them, as opposed to Sinkieland’s no blame culture, dio bo?

    Agree on PAP. Look, at the ground level, I work with alot of China ppl, enjoy their helpfulness, resilience, even bluntness.

    And yes if u talk about leadership of ordinary Chinese. CCP, I have acute reservations. Im not a fan of the current covid lockdown. And in event of civil unrest, this is a good excuse of practising control.

    The problem is this need to make CCP “perfect”, this causes real structural flow of info. Bureaucracy always second guessing of how to pls their masters rather than a straight forward mission. Same can be said of US, but US, u have more channels to pushback.

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  • xoxo:

    West is good,East is evil seems to be the mantra of blind-faith non-white western worshippers?
    Even not a few WHITE(WESTERN) EXPERTS HAVE QUESTIONED the wrongdoings of western pharma giant$.
    I do not subscribe to the WHITE IS GOOD ,East is evil mantra,what i uphold is Good over Evil.
    Nothing and no one is perfect but we must discern the *INTENTIONS*.

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  • pap IB is everywhere in TRE:

    Foreigners everywhere:
    For your information, according to poll, majority of Taiwanese do not want to return to China, worsened after they saw what happened to HK.

    Not everyone is a Mickey mouse like TKL or GMS or CCP lovers who crave to embrace dictatorship.

    If u love dictatorship so much, migrate there. Don’t bs us with your fake info.

    Sure as hell this one is a pap paid IB.

    How does one know?

    Well, all pap paid IBs tell lies.

    First lie is that the majority of Taiwanese do not want to return to China. What a lie. The latest poll was a 54/46 split. 54% is majority?

    Second lie is that those who think China is better run than pap Singapore are mickey mice embracing dictatorship. Isn’t pap Singapore a dictatorship?

    Third lie is that those who love China love dictatorship and need to migrate there. What a lie. pap Singapore is a dictatorship and everyone born here has a duty to stay and root out the dictatorship including those pap paid IBs telling lies here in TRE.

    Last, the mother of all lies. The one telling lies, the one paid by pap as IB, is telling others telling the truth about fake info. In other words, only stupid people accept paid roles as pap paid IB.

    Very stupid people.

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  • xoxo:

    It appears the WEST,PARTICULARLY U$A,is afraid that ASIA will recover relatively faster from Covid-induced economic doldrums and move ahead and overtake the WEST.
    U$A is especially worried that CHINA will move even faster and eventually overtaking it to be NUMBER ONE.
    So,they try to put decelerators to try to slow Asia down.

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  • xoxo:

    Btw,China COVID authorities say *STOP AT 2* BUT WESTERN Authorities say *BOO$T AND BOO$T*?

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  • xoxo:

    And,regarding HIGH US INTEREST RATES.
    WHO GAIN AND WHO LOSE?
    Imagine you bought US TREASURIES N BONDS just a couple of years ago and still holding them.
    China and other Asian countries are among the biggest holders of such bonds

    The values have been made to dropped like *bomb$*!

    Meanwhile,the ordinary folks suffer,whether in USA or elsewhere.
    The BANK$ters will be laughing out loud.
    U$A will $miling too.
    PS: Observe Biden’s smiles…

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  • knn:

    SINGAROAR:
    @TR Tech
    80% population is a high figure.Is China telling the world, vaccines don’t work? If yes,China should remove it’s vaccines like Sinopharm and SinoVac.I am a recipient of Sinovac and suffered breathlessness for two months with other side effects after the booster.

    Tech: If you ask the experts at the MTF, they would say it is not due to the vaccine, wanna bet? Since it is not due to the vaccine, then why you say it was SinoVac that caused it? You like to extrapolate and put words in others mouth, unknowing readers would be easilly hoodwinked by you, but sorry, not me. Go try it on someone else and don’t waste my time. BTW, Sinkieland has 95% that are vaccinated, mostly with mRNA ones, do they work?

    Silly brainless twit. I used Sinopharm. No side effects. Until today, still free from Covid. It must be your sick body with many underlying conditions. So simply blamed the vaccine without any basis. This is your level of unthinking.

    Tech: Sino are just inactivated virus that induces the body to develop anti-bodies, no additives like nano lipid particulars or other harmful stuff, so if the body is strong, it will just be a common cold and maybe fever as the body fights off the ‘imaginary’ virus. I also fail to see how there can be any side-effects, UNLESS there is underlying conditions.

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  • Western Sheep:

    The level of stupidity is shocking. Tried to play with English and got all tangled up. Sibei laughable.

    Keep it simple. Say you are banana. Don’t mention Singapore/Singaporean. Don’t sia suay people here.

    BK: Lets be very clear we are Singaporean Chinese, not Chinese Singaporeans.

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  • knn:

    China must have a lot of evidence and intelligence that the West is using the virus as a bioweapon and waiting to spread it across the whole of China. The closing of the borders is a very tough decision and they must have many good reasons to do so.

    At the end of this game, the rest of the world would either be sick because of the virus or be seriously ill because of mRNA vaccines. China and the Chinese people will be safe and survive this pandemic started by the West to depopulate the world.

    Go for more mRNA boosters and get infected doubly fast.

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  • I_am_Mike:

    only stupid people vote pap: Sometimes, the stupidest people are folks here in TRE with Chinese skin colour but call themselves ang mo names like mike and such.

    Aiyo, my honor to be specifically mentioned. I know i am popular among 50c and worshipped by many pinky retards.

    Know what, retard like yourself don’t even have a simple courtesy to have an avatar nick to identify yourself.

    And, you think being a Sinjapoorlang big deal? You want to show your NRIC here or prefer to display your NS discharge letter?

    Cannot debate,
    unable to show facts,
    everyday KPKB pap but ownselves have sub-intelligent brain to even know why…

    To quote my primary school niece, “this type of people is single cell mammals”.

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  • @ One sided story:

    Not very one sided.

    When fights broke out, where got rules and regulations. As in quarreling all kinds of foul languages spewed out of the mouth.

    I deduced you have never ever been involved in a fight. Real fight . Group fights. Those that you bled and bruised. Those that really hurts.

    Go watch Sg angela lee vs China xiong jin nan. Real fights are many times more brutal.

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  • knn:

    xoxo:
    West is good,East is evil seems to be the mantra of blind-faith non-white western worshippers?
    Even not a few WHITE(WESTERN) EXPERTS HAVE QUESTIONED the wrongdoings of western pharma giant$.
    I do not subscribe to the WHITE IS GOOD ,East is evil mantra,what i uphold is Good over Evil.
    Nothing and no one is perfect but we must discern the *INTENTIONS*.

    To the xia suay, orang cina bukan cina, only white men are good. Their fart smells good, white men are angels.

    And the white men say, Chinese are bad. And the orang cina bukan cina nod their heads in agreement, thinking they are not Chinese.

    Really xia suay.

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  • knn:

    BK:

    Lets be very clear we are Singaporean Chinese, not Chinese Singaporeans.

    Blur King,

    What is common between Singaporean Chinese and a Chinese Singaporean?
    Is he a Singaporean? Is he a Chinese?

    Can I say he is a Singaporean. He is also a Chinese?

    Or to blur king like you, he is a Singaporean, not a Chinese?

    In this case, the person is a Singaporean by citizenship. But whatever way you twist, he a a Chinese by ethnicity.

    Go and ask you ang moh father who is right.

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  • xoxo:

    @knn
    Cant but agree with you.
    And sad to note despite China Covid Authorkties say MAX 2 SHOTS,some of our frens here have taken a THIRD SINOVAC BOOSTER(RE: TRE Tech confirms 2 shots max and NO NO for underlying condition ;RE : SINGAROAR took A booster Sinovac).
    Whose fault?
    Go ask Ong You Con.

    2 shots max n NIX for underlying conditions has been the ADVICE OF CHINA VACCINES PRODUCERS.
    If we TAKE MORE THAN 2SHOTS,ITS OUR OWN FAULT(MTF FAULT),PERIOD.
    LETS BE CLEAR N FAIR.
    CHEERIO.

    Tech: To be clear, the recommended dosage is 2 shots to be considered “fully vaxed”, even though China doesn’t give a shit about vaccination status). An additional shot is OPTIONAL and only recommended for those that are vulnerable, in accordance with doctor’s advise.

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  • BK:

    Western Sheep:
    The level of stupidity is shocking. Tried to play with English and got all tangled up. Sibei laughable.

    Keep it simple. Say you are banana. Don’t mention Singapore/Singaporean. Don’t sia suay people here.

    Afternoon Eunuch. Try your best not to be a loser. Dont use different monikers to bolster your worthless comments. Tsk tsk, u are stupid enough to even think it works.

    Pathetic old man.

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  • No Wuhan Lockdown:

    Sadly, poetic justice prevailed.

    No Wuhan lockdown in Feb2020, now whole China in sporadic lockdown.
    Could have acted swiftly after Dr. Li Wenliang whistle-blew but in land of zero transparency and dictatorship—the small grenade became a worldwide nuclear bomb.
    China continue to live in a cave—-just like Emperor Xi did when he was a 15 year-old.

    ”’As a teenager President Xi Jinping lived in a cave in the isolated village of Liangjiahe. Today it is a heavily guarded shrine to China’s leader, …”’

    Wuhan from first week:
    Yes if CCP did not do the cover-up, the world would not have heard of COVID.
    ”7 Feb 2020 — Dr. Li Wenliang issued a warning about a strange new virus. Then the authorities summoned him for questioning.”
    In Feb 2020, China forgot it has 1 billion to protect???
    Let’s us not forget Dr. Li Wenliang—he tried to save the world and China.
    CCP failed him.
    Dictatorship is very dangerous for the world.
    Whether is Putin’s Nukes or Wuhan Virus—it may destroy mankind.

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  • Not 1-sided but idiot like U?:

    @ One sided story:
    Not very one sided.

    When fights broke out, where got rules and regulations. As in quarreling all kinds of foul languages spewed out of the mouth.

    I deduced you have never ever been involved in a fight. Real fight . Group fights. Those that you bled and bruised. Those that really hurts.

    Go watch Sg angela lee vs China xiong jin nan. Real fights are many times more brutal.

    Don’t talk cock lah. U meant the fight bt. Angela and Xiong no rules and regulations? What is the rule in the embassy case? You step into my house; I WHACKED U! You mean if someone come to your house and fight; you lan lan let him?

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  • xoxo:

    Hi TRE Tech
    Clarifications appreciated.

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  • idontbelieveinccpbs:

    ->>> pap IB is everywhere in TRE, this is the kind of CCP and Russian lover who twist logic and tell everyone the guy telling the truth is a liar.

    He said the below and even gave all of his poll of 54/46 split, however there is no reference or link to back up his words
    Sure as hell this one is a pap paid IB.
    How does one know?
    Well, all pap paid IBs tell lies.
    First lie is that the majority of Taiwanese do not want to return to China. What a lie. The latest poll was a 54/46 split. 54% is majority?
    The one telling lies, the one paid by pap as IB, is telling others telling the truth about fake info. In other words, only stupid people accept paid roles as pap paid IB.
    ———————————————————————–
    What are available online for everyone to read.

    https://www.newsweek.com/taiwan-china-politics-identity-independence-unification-public-opinion-polling-1724546
    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/02/07/why-is-unification-so-unpopular-in-taiwan-its-the-prc-political-system-not-just-culture/
    https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/poll-confirms-popular-rejection-of-china-s-unification-attempts-in-taiwan-122032600382_1.html
    https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2021/12/30/2003770419

    You know CCP and Russian lovers will always say
    1. Hearsay
    2. Unconfirmed
    3. Western or US propaganda

    PAPPY is a dictatorship in disguise, since it was a democracy joining the UN, it camouflages as democracy but with all kind of laws and restriction. All activists are either sued or bankrupted, all independent press and social media are nearly purged to ensure they read the right things. Of course, Pinky can declare no election and no term limit like Xi but he wanted to keep our democracy image. So he goes around suing activists, dragged politicians with legal suits and all kind of new laws like POFMA, FICA and upcoming “Cancel”. International community calls Singapore a flawed democracy and US did not invite Singapore to democracy summit because they know we are not a true democracy, we are just a camouflage pretending.

    But this guy really tokong, he created his own poll and convinced himself its true. 最高境界。。佩服佩服

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  • Biskut tamat tempoh:

    “In 1989 I was asked by xxx to announce in parliament that the US forces in the Western Pacific to use…….”

    Don’t know what to say lah!

    Btw XXX is now enjoying life in the heaven but miss you a lot, why are U still here?

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  • Western Sheep:

    I have to agree with you that @singameow is a simpleton.

    He pretends to be of high moral values, but talks ignorance and fake stuff. Like the blur kuku, he cannot hide his strong hatred of China and Chinese.

    His specialty is to throw up garbage, eg, “7 million infected Chinese traveled to various parts of the world and the pandemic started.”

    If he’s Chinese, he’s another sia suay banana.

    knn: Why is the vaccination nos. low in China? Didn’t China vaccinate it’s citizens with Sinopharm and SinoVac? China even donated millions of vaccines to poor countries. There must be a valid reason for the lockdown. Anyway,there is nothing to complain about as at least the infected Chinese won’t be infecting others as what happened in 2020. 7 million infected Chinese traveled to various parts of the world and the pandemic started.

    You simpleton spreading lies again.

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  • BK:

    knn: Blur King,

    What is common between Singaporean Chinese and a Chinese Singaporean?
    Is he a Singaporean? Is he a Chinese?

    Can I say he is a Singaporean. He is also a Chinese?

    Or to blur king like you, he is a Singaporean, not a Chinese?

    In this case, the person is a Singaporean by citizenship. But whatever way you twist, he a a Chinese by ethnicity.

    Go and ask you ang moh father who is right.

    U mean is liked when your daughter got raped, u ask the rapist permission to appoint the judge, so is a fair court?

    Or did u ask your Russian step father to do the honors? No limits wor.

    Or when you swallow the angmo crank narrative of No Apollo Landing?

    Indeed a Chinese. But the stupid Chinese. So u are a Chinese that is stupid. It sort of describe u more than your ethnicity.

    Dont get it? Ask me again (:

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  • knn:

    I like Blur Kuku. I will address the Blur King as Blur Kuku from now on.

    Blur Kuku. Blur King too big an honour for a kuku cheow. Hah haha ha.

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  • @ Not 1-sided but idiot like U:

    What is the rules and regulations of england ? Protesting are permitted. They are protesting outside the gates and compound of the embassy.

    The video doesnt really show clearly whether the hongkies barged in or prcs yanked him in before the group fight broke out. But i doubt the hongkies want to barge in. Thats prc’s territory and embassy are allowed to have firearms.

    Angela and Xiong with formal training are competing in a championship fight. They also slug it out really rough and they wear gloves. One conede defeat or throw in the towel or the bell sounds upon first round completed, the other will stop even if she’s having a field day. In a real fight you think you are hurt or beg, your opponent will stop. He wants to hurt you really bad. He will wear gloves ? Anything can use as a weapon. In a group fight, you think 1 to 1 ? Can be 10 against 1. The worker got kicked, is he wearing a bulletproof vest ?

    And the animosity u display when people dont support China is a real turn off. Just disagreeing already call others idiot. What’s next ? Spew Foul languages i presumed. I wouldnt be surprise.
    So u are very clever, then why not join your prcs mates in China ? Dilly dally in sg for what ?

    Tech: I have no issues with your comments on the incident but what irks me is your calling others to fiack off and go to China. You think you own Sinkieland and those not happy should leave? Like you said, “the animosity” from both sides of the camp is simply puzzling. What happened to agreeing to disagree, minus the names calling and f language?

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  • xoxo:

    We are sgs here.
    No need to diminish each other even if we have differing views.
    For those who die die must support angmohs at whatever costs,please go ahead n get jabbed with more boo$ters.
    No worries,we wont stop you.
    Pfizer’s bo$$ will thank you.

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  • Temusik Patriot:

    Hearsay, why bother lah…I hear he say she say she sell seashell at the seashore…when she is @seashore looking for a ceap HDB

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  • Tight Corner:

    Seem China has get itself into a tight corner with regard to zero Covid policy.
    Hard to change course now.
    Economy will continue to suffer…

    Tech: You sound as if China is regretting the policy now, which is furthest from the truth. If you look at the world data on C19, China is infact doing very well on adverse reactions and daily infections, so why should it even change course? Economy-wise, how many countries can claim to be doing better than China, Sinkieland?

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  • BK:

    More extract from “pro China” , George Yeo.

    “If we succeed in changing the culture a little bit, the situation will improve. But even if we don’t, reality will force us to change, because the region will become more important to us. And by necessity, we’ll be forced to learn more about the region. Because if we don’t, we’ll suffer consequences,” he said.

    There is a very rabid Chinese chauvinist segment here, their raison detre is allegiance to CCP. And u can see how, by the way they argue, very secondary school, trolling, acting like they are China citizens rather than Sporeans.

    Everything is painted as West vs China. They sow seeds of distrust, they exchange reason for chauvinism. They have never argued with Spore interests, they are here to ferment racial divide. Yes, first they start with white, they even attack the Catholic Church, but later they will attack other races.

    No different from : https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/former-ngee-ann-poly-lecturer-charged-with-making-racist-remarks-insensitive-comments-on-religion

    Recognize this, so we never allow it to grow in Spore. This kind of divide will intensify as the geopolitics get more fractious.

    But this is not to say we dont engage with China, but on our terms, our interests.

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  • BK:

    knn:
    I like Blur Kuku. I will address the Blur King as Blur Kuku from now on.

    Blur Kuku. Blur King too big an honour for a kuku cheow. Hah haha ha.

    (:

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  • Western Sheep:

    Don’t be such a coward lah. Don’t hide your vitriolic anti-China and anti-Chinese hatred. You already show that many times.

    You want to follow your pappy master? Simply accuse opponents of being communist/racist and finish them off?

    We are not pro-China. We are wary of sheep that swallow western propaganda with zero thinking.

    All western media true.
    All angmoh writers correct.

    With this unthinking worshiping of warmongering angmoh writers and speakers, you sheep are fermenting war in SE Asia and beyond. You sheep are endangering Chinese and East Asians throughout the world.

    Sheep helping warmongers. You sheep are dangerous to Singapore and to the world. Knn, you are wolves in disguise. You are going against your pappy masters, who are urging peace from US.

    Western wolves in sheep disguise. That’s what you are.

    BK:
    More extract from “pro China” , George Yeo.

    (Garbage deleted)

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  • xoxo:

    Logic n reasoning are not the monopoly of those snobs who think they command Queen’s English.Words are just words,the Ah Bengs are sometimes more reasoning that the Queen’s English speakers especially inP Parluament.They put down reasons with gigh-sounding lingo.Most of us apply only Singlish which is not as bad as Frenglish.
    Logic n reasoning is not linguistics.
    General Umbrage used SUCH A BIG WORD,i had to quickly refer to my dictionary before i could continue reading.
    Still,he made no sense.

    And,who attack the Catholic Church here?
    Please enlighten.
    And racist?
    Must be unfounded accusation from those calling others CHINESE CHAUCINISTS,is that not racist?

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  • I_am_Xi:

    I_am_Mike: Aiyo, my honor to be specifically mentioned. I know i am popular among 50c and worshipped by many pinky retards.

    Know what, retard like yourself don’t even have a simple courtesy to have an avatar nick to identify yourself.

    And, you think being a Sinjapoorlang big deal? You want to show your NRIC here or prefer to display your NS discharge letter?

    Cannot debate,
    unable to show facts,
    everyday KPKB pap but ownselves have sub-intelligent brain to even know why…

    To quote my primary school niece, “this type of people is single cell mammals”.

    We are fair people, people who don’t vote pap and speak only the truth.

    We have read your post with deep regret.

    1, you also didn’t show your NRIC nor display your NS discharge letter.

    2, in other words, you show yourself to be more than sub-intelligent to even know why Mr Xi Jinping is far better than pap clown.

    3, to quote our pinay maid, ” this type of people is stupdiest taiwanese or hongkie or sinkie”.

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  • So funny:

    I_am_Mike: Aiyo, my honor to be specifically mentioned. I know i am popular among 50c and worshipped by many pinky retards.

    Know what, retard like yourself don’t even have a simple courtesy to have an avatar nick to identify yourself.

    And, you think being a Sinjapoorlang big deal? You want to show your NRIC here or prefer to display your NS discharge letter?

    Cannot debate,
    unable to show facts,
    everyday KPKB pap but ownselves have sub-intelligent brain to even know why…

    To quote my primary school niece, “this type of people is single cell mammals”.

    Wahlan.

    Loose face so attach ad hominem?

    Don’t do to others what you don’t want others to do to you. You also never showed your NRIC nor your NS discharge letter.

    Using your niece backside to cover your face sure is despicable.

    Enough said.

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  • only stupid people vote pap:

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    Wow footage showed Chinese consul-general pulled protestor into the ground where UK police has limited power. And quickly feigned ignorance and denial.
    But CCP lovers would say protestor barged into embassy trying to behave like HK protestors or leave it to investigation.

    Only CCP has such audacity to do this in foreign soil because they think they tuaki and above the law.

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    The IndependentThe Independent
    Chinese diplomat defends grabbing Hong Kong protester’s hair in Manchester
    Lamiat Sabin
    Thu, 20 October 2022 at 7:21 am

    The Chinese consul-general has denied claims that he attacked a pro-democracy Hong Kong protester in an incident in Manchester.

    Footage appears to show diplomat Zheng Xiyuan had pulled Bob Chan over to the grounds of the Chinese consulate, in Rusholme, by his hair.

    It’s alleged that – when on the consulate’s grounds – staff then beat Mr Chan, leaving him with cuts and bruises on his body, during the incident on Sunday.

    Mr Chan was part of a group outside China’s consulate protesting against the 20th National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party.

    A group of unidentified men wearing face masks came out of the building and began tearing down posters and scuffled with the demonstrators who tried to stop them. Police intervened by pulling the men apart.

    But, as Mr Chan was pulled onto the grounds of the consulate, police had limited powers.

    you are so stupid.

    Hongkies who leave HK for UK are all with chips on their shoulders.

    anytime there is a chance to badmouth Mr Xi Jinping or China they do it.

    don’t be so stupid.

    the real evil for you stupid sinkies are the pap Ljs and pap Cbs living in your midst.

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  • BK:

    Lol. Hahaha. This is funny, the same guy that talked about defending Chinese and China, now proclaims he is not pro China!!

    Western Sheep:
    Don’t be such a coward lah. Don’t hide your vitriolic anti-China and anti-Chinese hatred. You already show that many times.

    You want to follow your pappy master? Simply accuse opponents of being communist/racist and finish them off?

    We are not pro-China. We are wary of sheep that swallow western propaganda with zero thinking.

    All western media true.
    All angmoh writers correct.

    With this unthinking worshiping of warmongering angmoh writers and speakers, you sheep are fermenting war in SE Asia and beyond. You sheep are endangering Chinese and East Asians throughout the world.

    Sheep helping warmongers. You sheep are dangerous to Singapore and to the world. Knn, you are wolves in disguise. You are going against your pappy masters, who are urging peace from US.

    Western wolves in sheep disguise. That’s what you are.

    Coward? No bigger one than u that uses different monikers to bolster your own worthless comments.

    As for anti Chinese, u dont even dare produce the data that acknowlegdes CCP killed millions of Chinese.

    Western narrative? Who is the sheep that believes in the angmo crank that said No Apollo Landing?

    Yes, u are not pro China, @ Tech is. U are a Chinese chauvinist who attack the whites, attack the Catholic Church, u are exposed!

    (:

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  • dave:

    Covid flare up in Beijing. Die, die, China is in big serious trouble.

    Really, how many cases? 100,000? No?
    What about 50,000? No?
    What about 10,000? No?

    Then how many is flare up, so serious?

    Actually hor, 164 cases.

    What? 164 cases called flare up, very serious, losing control?

    Singapore daily bragged about more than 10,000 cases also no scared. Singapore pop only 6m still steady poon pee pee.

    China 1.4b, 164 cases a day so serious? Whoever called this as serious must be sent to the mad house.

    Tight Corner, are you the cranky one?

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  • only stupid people vote pap:

    idontbelieveinccpbs:
    ->>> pap IB is everywhere in TRE, this is the kind of CCP and Russian lover who twist logic and tell everyone the guy telling the truth is a liar.

    He said the below and even gave all of his poll of 54/46 split, however there is no reference or link to back up his words
    Sure as hell this one is a pap paid IB.
    How does one know?
    Well, all pap paid IBs tell lies.
    First lie is that the majority of Taiwanese do not want to return to China. What a lie. The latest poll was a 54/46 split. 54% is majority?
    The one telling lies, the one paid by pap as IB, is telling others telling the truth about fake info. In other words, only stupid people accept paid roles as pap paid IB.
    ———————————————————————–
    What are available online for everyone to read.

    https://www.newsweek.com/taiwan-china-politics-identity-independence-unification-public-opinion-polling-1724546
    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/02/07/why-is-unification-so-unpopular-in-taiwan-its-the-prc-political-system-not-just-culture/
    https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/poll-confirms-popular-rejection-of-china-s-unification-attempts-in-taiwan-122032600382_1.html
    https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2021/12/30/2003770419

    You know CCP and Russian lovers will always say
    1. Hearsay
    2. Unconfirmed
    3. Western or US propaganda

    PAPPY is a dictatorship in disguise, since it was a democracy joining the UN, it camouflages as democracy but with all kind of laws and restriction. All activists are either sued or bankrupted, all independent press and social media are nearly purged to ensure they read the right things. Of course, Pinky can declare no election and no term limit like Xi but he wanted to keep our democracy image. So he goes around suing activists, dragged politicians with legal suits and all kind of new laws like POFMA, FICA and upcoming “Cancel”. International community calls Singapore a flawed democracy and US did not invite Singapore to democracy summit because they know we are not a true democracy, we are just a camouflage pretending.

    But this guy really tokong, he created his own poll and convinced himself its true. 最高境界。。佩服佩服

    We have read in detail. We say he/she is right and you are lying.

    BTW CCP is not the same as China.

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  • only stupid people vote pap:

    BK:
    More extract from “pro China” , George Yeo.

    “If we succeed in changing the culture a little bit, the situation will improve. But even if we don’t, reality will force us to change, because the region will become more important to us. And by necessity, we’ll be forced to learn more about the region. Because if we don’t, we’ll suffer consequences,” he said.

    There is a very rabid Chinese chauvinist segment here, their raison detre is allegiance to CCP. And u can see how, by the way they argue, very secondary school, trolling, acting like they are China citizens rather than Sporeans.

    Everything is painted as West vs China. They sow seeds of distrust, they exchange reason for chauvinism. They have never argued with Spore interests, they are here to ferment racial divide. Yes, first they start with white, they even attack the Catholic Church, but later they will attack other races.

    No different from : https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/former-ngee-ann-poly-lecturer-charged-with-making-racist-remarks-insensitive-comments-on-religion

    Recognize this, so we never allow it to grow in Spore. This kind of divide will intensify as the geopolitics get more fractious.

    But this is not to say we dont engage with China, but on our terms, our interests.

    you are wonderfully stupid.

    stupidity has no cure.

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  • BK:

    Oh yes, btw Im pro China , just not pro CCP.

    Western Sheep:

    We are not pro-China.

    Remember this. U said it. No wonder u dont care millions of Chinese died.

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  • I_am_AMDK_angmophile'sfavorite:

    @ Not 1-sided but idiot like U:
    What is the rules and regulations of england ? Protesting are permitted. They are protesting outside the gates and compound of the embassy.

    The video doesnt really show clearly whether the hongkies barged in or prcs yanked him in before the group fight broke out. But i doubt the hongkies want to barge in. Thats prc’s territory and embassy are allowed to have firearms.

    Angela and Xiong with formal training are competing in a championship fight. They also slug it out really rough and they wear gloves. One conede defeat or throw in the towel or the bell sounds upon first round completed, the other will stop even if she’s having a field day. In a real fight you think you are hurt or beg, your opponent will stop. He wants to hurt you really bad. He will wear gloves ? Anything can use as a weapon. In a group fight, you think 1 to 1 ? Can be 10 against 1. The worker got kicked, is he wearing a bulletproof vest ?

    And the animosity u display when people dont support China is a real turn off. Just disagreeing already call others idiot. What’s next ? Spew Foul languages i presumed. I wouldnt be surprise.
    So u are very clever, then why not join your prcs mates in China ? Dilly dally in sg for what ?

    Tech: I have no issues with your comments on the incident but what irks me is your calling others to fiack off and go to China. You think you own Sinkieland and those not happy should leave? Like you said, “the animosity” from both sides of the camp is simply puzzling. What happened to agreeing to disagree, minus the names calling and f language?

    Lol, so why the ‘hongkies’ so stupid? Why go so near the front gate and let embassy staff pulled in? Want to fight, fight like real men and not depend on useless cocks (police) support from behind. Now even their own PM got kick out! lol

    I different, hor. Sinkie’s MIWs beg me to stay bcos I invested here and your livelihood depends on me. After all where to find sheep more stupid than ‘hongkies’? Where???? Tell me. lol

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  • xoxo:

    Right,we shud not be pro-this or pro-that.
    We shud be PRO-SINGAPOREANS first.
    If we claim WE ARE PRO-SG BUT we think and act without being PRO-singaporeans,we are hypocrites.
    And,being Asian ,i am more inclined to be more PRO-ASIANS BUT first,PRO-SINGAPOREANS.
    Look,ANGMOHS ARE SO OPENLY PRO-WESTERNERS,whatever we say .
    Seeing is believing.
    Even in Sg,many sgs are pro-angmohs than they are honestly pro-Sg or Pro-Asians.

    Guess being feudali$ed by white men ,many find it hard to CHANGE?
    WHITE SUPREMACISM IS PERPETUATED BECOS OTHERS ESPECIALLY ASIANS *INFERIORISED* themselves.

    Like Ms Tin exclaimed,* i dunno know what to say*.

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  • BK:

    only stupid people vote pap: you are wonderfully stupid.

    stupidity has no cure.

    Lol. Moron calling me stupid? Thats a blessing (:

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  • Western Sheep:

    As the commenter above says about you: Stupidity has no cure!

    Not pro-China does not mean ignoring millions dead. You are beyond stupid. And you are super lazy and thick-skin. Keep asking people for real data after your fake data got exposed. My $100 bill is fake, now, give me a real $100 bill. So f**k yourself.

    Still trying to camouflage yourself as pro-China? Who you trying to bluff? You are in the same category as the one who hopes for nukes on China.

    You warmongering western wolves in sheep disguise.

    BK:
    Oh yes, btw Im pro China , just not pro CCP.

    Remember this. U said it. No wonder u dont care millions of Chinese died.

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  • BK:

    strong>k: Why don’t screw the churches for being communists?

    Is the Catholic Church communist? And u want to screw the Catholic Church?

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  • Really?:

    BK:
    Oh yes, btw Im pro China , just not pro CCP.

    Remember this. U said it. No wonder u dont care millions of Chinese died.

    Really?

    Millions?

    After Mr Mao?

    You anti Chinese or anti Xi or anti truth?

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  • xoxo:

    imho,i think without CPC,China would still be treated like *sick men of Asia* by angmohs or even others as shown by History.
    It is the OPPRESSION by Warlords with close links to KMT LEADERS that peasants’ supporters and peasants sought solace and decency in socialism.Many peasants were inhumanly mistreated by warlords’ n even KMT’s soldiers can we deny?
    Pillages,rapes,killings…

    Yes,the 1G leaders of CPC did eradicate many innocent chinese suspected or accused of being CAPITALISTS.
    BUT LATER,DENG XP and others did embark on reformation.
    Leaders like Deng,ZHU RONJI,WEN JIA BAO AND EVEN XI JP have MADE LIFE BETTER AND BETTER for the Chinese people by and large.This we must admit.

    China is not the same anynore.
    There are even billionaires.
    And,XJP is wise enough to re-enshrine COMMON PROSPERITY OR COMMON GOOD which WESTERN DEMOCRACIES PREACHED BUT DO NOT ACTUALLY WORK TOWARDS?

    If CPC CAN OPEN OUT MORE IN FREEDOM OF RELIGION POLICY,CHINA IS AS *DEMOCRATIC* as most *officially-declared* democratic countries.

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  • I_am_AMDK_angmophile'sfavorite:

    I_am_Mike: Aiyo, my honor to be specifically mentioned. I know i am popular among 50c and worshipped by many pinky retards.

    Know what, retard like yourself don’t even have a simple courtesy to have an avatar nick to identify yourself.

    And, you think being a Sinjapoorlang big deal? You want to show your NRIC here or prefer to display your NS discharge letter?

    Cannot debate,
    unable to show facts,
    everyday KPKB pap but ownselves have sub-intelligent brain to even know why…

    To quote my primary school niece, “this type of people is single cell mammals”.

    I think you must have pissed your niece often. Next time tell her; don’t be No big; No small, ok? lol

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  • BK:

    strong>k: Why don’t screw the churches for being communists?

    Is the Catholic Church communist? Why want to screw the Church?

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  • BK:

    Western Sheep:
    As the commenter above says about you: Stupidity has no cure!

    Not pro-China does not mean ignoring millions dead. You are beyond stupid. And you are super lazy and thick-skin. Keep asking people for real data after your fake data got exposed. My $100 bill is fake, now, give me a real $100 bill. So f**k yourself.

    Still trying to camouflage yourself as pro-China? Who you trying to bluff? You are in the same category as the one who hopes for nukes on China.

    You warmongering western wolves in sheep disguise.

    Haha. U are anti Chinese la. Indeed u are not pro China. Just a Chinese chauvinist.

    Western Sheep:

    We are not pro-China.

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  • BK:

    Really?: Really?

    Millions?

    After Mr Mao?

    You anti Chinese or anti Xi or anti truth?

    Im anti this comment. Just stupid (:

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  • Western Sheep:

    Don’t be so thick-skin.
    When people say you eat white shit, what’s your response? You say China has been eating white shit for a long time. People attack you one person, you attack an entire China country.

    See what you wrote. You can’t escape from your anti-China, anti-Chinese hatred.

    Western wolves in sheep disguise.

    BK: Oh yes, btw Im pro China , just not pro CCP.

    BK: The ideology of CCP is from Karl Marx. Karl Marx was a white German Jew.

    If u talked about eating white shit, then thru CCP, China has been eating that for a long time.

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  • Western Sheep:

    Blur kuku is pro-China and pro-Chinese? A pedo telling a primary school girl, “I like me. Let’s go get an ice-cream.”

    Western wolves in sheep disguise.

    BK: U Chinese love to wear your pig tails. Hostage to whoever is in govt, stupidity is your lot.

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  • Western Sheep:

    BK, proclaiming himself to be pro-China, cites and agrees with a western propaganda that claims Taiwan as 99th state of US.

    These are the “pro-China” psychopaths.

    Shameful. Shameful. Extremely shameful.

    BK: The PRC’s efforts to rewrite Taiwan’s status at the UN ramped up in the 1990s and early 2000s at the same time as the island’s democratization. The PRC has since worked to “internationalize” its “One China” Principle and to conflate it with UN Resolution 2758, a revisionist shift from the original intent of the document.

    https://www.gmfus.org/news/distortion-un-resolution-2758-and-limits-taiwans-access-united-nations

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  • @I_am_AMDK_angmophile'sfavorit:

    @ Lol, so why the ‘hongkies’ so stupid? Why go so near the front gate and let embassy staff pulled in? Want to fight, fight like real men and not depend on useless cocks (police) support from behind. Now even their own PM got kick out! lol

    Fight did broke out on both sides. Didnt they fought each other.
    What’s the reason the embassy staff need to pull them in ? Are they endangering anyone. They are not storming the gates or breaking in. If they try to climb in, in the worst scenario embassy staff can open fire at them. Embassy staff do have diplomatic immunity. At most deported from the country.

    As for pm resign, thats between their office and people. Both are independent issues.

    @ I different, hor. Sinkie’s MIWs beg me to stay bcos I invested here and your livelihood depends on me. After all where to find sheep more stupid than ‘hongkies’? Where???? Tell me. lol

    Beg you to stay. Wow ! I happy for you man. Yet you sound bitter and angry … at people that do not have bad blood with you , people you dont know who he is, even at people who just disagree with you.

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  • I_am_AMDK_anglophiles' fav toy:

    @I_am_AMDK_angmophile'sfavorit:
    @ Lol, so why the ‘hongkies’ so stupid? Why go so near the front gate and let embassy staff pulled in? Want to fight, fight like real men and not depend on useless cocks (police) support from behind. Now even their own PM got kick out! lol

    Fight did broke out on both sides. Didnt they fought each other.
    What’s the reason the embassy staff need to pull them in ? Are they endangering anyone. They are not storming the gates or breaking in. If they try to climb in, in the worst scenario embassy staff can open fire at them. Embassy staff do have diplomatic immunity. At most deported from the country.

    As for pm resign, thats between their office and people. Both are independent issues.

    @ I different, hor. Sinkie’s MIWs beg me to stay bcos I invested here and your livelihood depends on me. After all where to find sheep more stupid than ‘hongkies’? Where???? Tell me. lol

    Beg you to stay. Wow ! I happy for you man. Yet you sound bitter and angry … at people that do not have bad blood with you , people you dont know who he is, even at people who just disagree with you.

    That’s why I say Sinkies sheep more stupid than hongkies.
    You know what is teaching U a lesson? See now where the protestors. See whether dare come again. See HK now. ya ya papaya a few years back. Now all quiet like mouse; don’t even dare to let a fart out in HK now. Where are the HK protestors now? Like bloody timid mice now. Still want to go Brit’s land to continue? lol

    yap. stupid hongkies got bad blood with me. They caused my business to closed in HK. So tiew them. Serve them right! lol

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  • Western Sheep:

    You are a totally disoriented blur kuku.

    I have never talked about defending China. China has 1.4 billion population. There is no need for me to defend.

    But I like to expose western sheep and western wolves, because they are “laughable simpleton vomit of western propaganda.”

    You western wolves help the west to do warmongering. Not only shameful, EV-IL!

    BK: Lol. Hahaha. This is funny, the same guy that talked about defending Chinese and China, now proclaims he is not pro China!!

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