Singapore is an immigrant society
Manpower minister Dr Tan See Leng reminded NCMP Mr Leong Mun Wai that both their fathers came from another country, that Singapore is an immigrant society, that he should stop rehashing the “foreigners are stealing our lunch” debate. In short, Dr Tan is implying that if foreigners did not sink roots here, becoming PRs and citizens, where would Singapore be?
Dr Tan has a point, except he forgot that when his father came to Singapore, it was not a country; it was a British colony where people far and wide came to make a living, and indeed, many went back to their country after accumulating some money.
It was only in 1965 that Singapore became a fully independent country, and with it, the process of building a nation began, and citizens had to make big sacrifices and commitments - all male Singaporeans had to serve National Service; many people had to sell their land to the State for a pittance so that redevelopment could proceed smoothly; they agreed to abide by very strict laws so that harmony and prosperity could thrive; they gave up their way of life to embrace a national identity; just to name a few.
Singapore the country, did not survive and prosper by happenstance, it did so by the hard work and sacrifice of its people.
By bringing in more foreigners, Dr Tan is stabbing all Singaporeans who live on a wage in the back, because it effectively reduces their market rate but increases the capitalist’s profit. And in so doing, he is making a mockery of the sacrifices they are making as citizens.
Dr Tan ought to be clear in his mind, whether his government is building a nation, or a marketplace to secure the highest profit for the capitalist.
He should also ponder, if his government is truly building a nation, would the Total Fertility Rate be so low that the nation cannot replace itself but has to import foreigners?
Foong Swee Fong
The Manpower Minister view that Singapore is an immigrant society is representative of the PAP government. Might as well deny that Singapore is not a sovereign nation. This is treacherous. Treason is punishable by death going by the Singapore Constitution.
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These “natives” are siding with foreigners and bringing in more foreigners. No other countries have such a huge % of foreigners in recent years.
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Was an immigrant society and becaME ONE
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Let’s change the law. Allow any FT to become MPs and Ministers even the PM of this country. Why shouldn’t we get the best leaders that the world has to offer. Why stick to a small bunch of mediocre people who may not have any leadership qualities. We must cast our nets wide so that we can have cheaper, better and faster (whatever that means) leadership in SG.
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pure pettiness on the part of Leong MW. SG is both nation and marketplace. nation to us citizens, and marketplace to corporations. no contradiction here. the marketplace used by corporations creates good jobs for us citizens. and we are a meritocracy where the best man wins, that is why we have progressed. nobody in the right mind will want to change our operating model.
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PAP still very stubbornly insist they’re right about taking in more & more PR & new citizens.
I strongly believe this coming GE will be a strong reckoning to PAP regarding immigrants taking jobs, housing, & even space from Singaporeans.
It would be a rude wakening that no one in PAP ever dream of in their wildest nightmare.
Let just wait & see it unfold.
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Straits Times: Immigration is essential and existential for Singapore’s survival: SM Lee
SML Lee is playing “fast and loose” with the facts. These are the facts:
1) The low fertility rate in Singapore is the result of adverse consequences of PAP policies.
2) The PAP limited the number the % of each cohort that can attend local universities.
3) Foreign workers are exempted from CPF making them up to 17% cheaper to hire than Singaporeans.
4) Basically, foreigners are brought in by giving them the job of Singaporeans.
4) The PAP is not open and transparent so what it claims cannot be verified.
5) Without openness and transparency in government there is no public accountability. This is a FACT.
The solution is to throw out the PAP at the coming GE. VTO.
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Majority of trublu sgs are daft beyond hope and that includes HIGHLY EDUCATED SGS.
FT /POPULATION ADD-ON IS KILLING ordinary sgs in more than one way.
JoblessNESS aside,FT POLICY WITH ITS ACCOMPANYING “BENEFITS” FOR PRs is also pushing up HDB PRICES AND BASIC NECCESSITIES PRICING.
WHO CAN DENY,MINISTERS,MPs?
Beside losing decent jobs,sgs face ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED “INFLATION” such as e$calsting food prices and BASIC HOUSING(HDB).
It is so easy to place blame on seniors who are cajoled by ridiculous COL to downgrade from private to HDB.
HDB PRICES WERE ALREADY INFLATED BEFORE AFFECTED SENIORS NEEDED TO DOWNGRADE.
DO ANY RATIONAL MINISTER THINK THAT SENIORS LOOKING TO DOWNGRADE ENJOY PAYING $1.5M FOR A LESS THAN 99 YEARS HDB UNIT?
IF SO,THAT MINISTER OUGHT TO BE SACKED!
SENIORS WHO ARE DOWNGRADING NEED URGENTLY TO BUY A HDB AS THE WAIT-OUT PERIOD PLUS BTO PERIOD ARE SIMPLY TOO LONG.
IT IS THE G’s fault for not projecting the requisite housing needs that follows the dumping of planeloads of aliens here,is it not?
Build RETIREMENT VILLAGES FOR SENIORS,DOWNGRADERS AND OTHERS.
THAT SHOULD BE WHAT MND MINISTER MUST LOOK INTO MORE SENUORLY.
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Foong said: By bringing in more foreigners, Dr Tan is stabbing all Singaporeans who live on a wage in the back, because it effectively reduces their market rate but increases the capitalist’s profit. And in so doing, he is making a mockery of the sacrifices they are making as citizens.
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Dear Foong,
You are totally out of touch with the latest happening in Democratic America.
Why I mentioned America ? Because America is also a nation of immigrants.
Trump said: I am aligned with Europe. And I am aligned with the World.
LKY said: We make the world our hinterland.
Under the new administration, “Aliens in this country illegally face a choice,” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem stated. “They can return home and follow the legal process to come to the United States or they can deal with the consequences of continuing to violate our laws.” note here: US allow legal immigration.
Similarly, Singapore also has stringent immigration policy like US to fight illegal immigration and protect Singaporeans.
https://youtu.be/Gi4PZBJ7Jdo
Question:
1. Isn’t US administration backstabbing all Americans?
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The most powerful democratic country on earth America is also an immigrant society which the America government did not deny.
https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/5182907-trumps-immigration-policy-give-me-your-oligarchs-your-rich/
We are a democratic country same as America and Manpower Minister is telling the truth.
Why don’t you condemn US ? Hypocrite ?
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Well said.
Trump: We will forge a society that is colorblind and merit based.
https://youtu.be/0WEC6Fl-JAw
(at time frace 18:00)
This is similar to our pledge: regardless of race and religion…
Older Sinkies think that they are Ang Mo Tua Kee. They are irresponsible idiots who screw around and then ask state for financial help.
https://youtu.be/o3mMF_kCW1I
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Not only that, these new citizens don’t have to serve NS some more leh! And will they defend Singapore should there be a war or flee on the first available flight out?
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Truth is without dumping more FTs/PRs-new $itizens here ,the PAP WILL NOT SURVIVE instead of Sg can not survive?
There have been widespread JOBLESSNESS -UNDER EMPLOYMENT/UNEMPLOYMENT- among well-educated nation-builders eversince the FT POLICY has started to be implemented some 25 years ago on a reckless,ruthless and irrational manner.
Yet,such supposed FOREIGN TALENTS HAS NOT HELPED TO INCREASE NATIONAL PRODUCTIVITY BUT CAUSE IT TO SLIP AND STAGNATE.
A HUMBLE GRAPH OF NATIONAL PRODUCTIVITY VS INCREMENTS IN FTs WILL SHOW CLEARLY WHAT I MEAN.
FTs,even those armed with less recognised uni degrees than NTU OR NUS are taking over jobs once highly productive sgs occupied.
The sgs who ought to be REPLACED HONESTLY SHOULD BE THE DAFT MPs and Ministers instead.
Pray tell us with basic integrity WHY MINISTERS’ KPIs are ranked so high when NATIONAL PRODUCTIVITY IS SO LOW?
HIGH MINISTERIAL KPI VS LOW NATIONAL PRODUCTIVITY DOES NOT EQUATE OR DOES IT IN PAP’s term$???
If Sg needs to augment our population so desperately in such careless way,WHY NOT DUMP CHEAP AFRICANS HERE?
Afterall,it does not matter to the G it seems whether the “exlensive FTs” they keep dumping here helps to improve national productivity and therefore TRUER MORE SUSTAINABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT?
GO ASK ESM GOH,HE STUDIED DEVELOPMENTAL ECONOMICS.
NUMBERS IS NOT EVERYTHING.
BUT OF COURSE,COLLECTING AND PAYING OWNSELVES MORE MONEY IS ANOTHER THING???
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So,gahmen say Sg is IMMIGRANTS’ SOCIETY.
Are the gahmen immigrants?
Guess,IMMIGRANT SOCIETY SHOULD BE GOVERNED BY IMMIGRANTS JUST LIKE OUR WORKPLACES?
IS TAN SEE LENG BORN HERE OR A PINOY IMMIGRANT?
IS HE TALKING IN “STRANGE ALIEN” LINGO.
Guess TAN SEE LENG IS NOT A SG?
IS HE?
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So,gahmen say Sg is IMMIGRANTS’ SOCIETY.
Are the gahmen immigrants?
Guess,IMMIGRANT SOCIETY SHOULD BE GOVERNED BY IMMIGRANTS JUST LIKE OUR WORKPLACES?
IS TAN SEE LENG BORN HERE OR A PINOY IMMIGRANT?
IS HE TALKING IN “STRANGE ALIEN” LINGO.
Guess TAN SEE LENG IS NOT A SG?
IS HE?
And,WHY GAHMEN HAVE THE SOLE RIGHT TO REPLACE SG-PMETs with IMMIGRANTS BUT SGS CANNOT REPLACE GAHMEN WITH IMMIGRANTS?
MIGHT AS WELL CHANGE RULES TO ALLOW NON-SGS TO STAND FOR GE,sgs welcome FOREIGNERS,really???
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This is all about selling cheap labour to foreign companies.It has nothing to do with Citizens or the State. We and our beautiful island have been sold to the highest bidder. The replacement of true blue Singaporeans continue so that the PAP political party can remain in power for the next 100years. Our children will not be able to afford their own homes.LMW was the man of the hour. He is bullied by the Pappies. Singaporeans should support LMW and PSP. Say goodbye to TSL.
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Yes. VTO and VOV!
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How to ensure job security and life-enhancement (提高生活质量) for all singaporeans (locally-born and older batches of foreign-born citizens)?
The rear waves of the Yangtze River drive on those before, front waves die on the beach (长江后浪推前浪,前浪死在沙滩上).
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Not petty, FSF is clear-minded!
When he said marketplace in context he is right & you are wrong!
Can balek kampong to where you (+foreign trash) come from!
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Hi
Anyone knows where is TRE Techie?
Mod Mod: Was informed by the owner that he is down with HMPV and has been warded since 2 weeks ago.
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The top foreign talent now Singaporean, Piyush Gupta, should be in politics. He is PM material. He can repeat what he did so successfully in DBS in Singapore politics.
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Spoken like a true lackey of the incumbent administration.
Proven time and time again that loyalty can be bought on this little island state.
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Lets look at how 东方大国 they solve the 最后一代’s problem.
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Duterte held election rally in HK. Sg will never allow this.
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This is true because $inkies always want more FT and yet claim this is not an immigrant society. OIf course it is – and it will always be.
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Just days ago, news reports have it that the number of people granted citizenship was almost equal to the number of newborns in the year 2024.
So much about stringent immigration policy!
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THERE’S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE PAPPY GOVT BUSINESS MODEL THAT’S PUSHING UP THE RENTAL COST!
MORE TO COME!
“A veteran hawker couple has closed their long-running stall at Bukit Merah Central due to rising rental costs. Ang Xinrong, 76, recently sought employment at the Marina Bay Sands job fair. He told Lianhe Zaobao that frequent rent hikes pushed their monthly expenses beyond S$5,000, forcing them to retire from their business in January.”
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2025/03/10/73-year-old-hawker-shuts-stall-due-to-rent-hike-seeks-job-at-marina-bay-sands-job-fair/
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1) Mr Philip Yeo said Singaporean kids not hungry enough?
Just wondering if the hungry kids are brought over and become citizens eventually, will their future singaporean kids turn out to be hungry or not hungry?
2) kidnap and pay for education fees?
If not wrong, Mr Lee Kuan Yew believed in a system of education that involved subsidies and co-payments for essential services like education and healthcare, rather than free provision, so that people recognise real cost and do not waste. Is this contradicting and unfair to singaporean kids?
3) out of 100, 10 were sent back?
People are like commodities, buy and dump? Any feelings for the 10 children?
https://youtu.be/yehSN_WV1TY?si=uVgZo6r_iys94Fnb
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Immigrant Society?
Refugees are also IMMIGRANTS.
So,are we warmly welcoming vast numbers of refugees as IMMIGRANTS?
These REFUGEES ARE A GOOD POOL OF IMMIGRANTS.
HOW MANY REFUGEES WE ACCEPT PER YEAR,PER DRCADE SINCE FTs POLICY STARTED?
OT,ARE WE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST REFUGEES.
I am sure there are plenty of talented refugees who can be our FTs?
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Pap govt is creating confusion over SG identity – an immigrant society – just to justify their immigration policy!
THIS HAS TO BE STOPPED!
VOTERS HAVE TO TAKE BACK THE SG IDENTITY @GE2025!
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What Philip Yeo is the hard truth. You cannot stomach the hard truth?
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Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Taoists, Hindus, …, let’s pray.
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Once a man became an immigrant, his children and grandchildren identify themselves as immigrants.
Does this make sense?
Yes, PROVIDED they harbor a strong desire to return to their motherland or fatherland. Does that guy has this desire? Does he?
BTW, some NS slaves believe their descendants shall continue as NS slaves.
Such people will vote for extinction.
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Duterte’s ICC kidnapping with Marcos’ help could be the start of BBM’s fall. No Philippine judge ordered the ‘arrest’.
FORMER President Rodrigo Duterte, the Philippines’ most loved president whose massive political support continues today, was kidnapped yesterday by the Philippine National Police (PNP), purportedly implementing an arrest order of the controversial International Criminal Court.
I call it a kidnapping as the PNP did not have a warrant of arrest against the former president. It cited however the ICC’s order, which however has no authority nor enforcement arm to arrest anybody, much less a national in his own country. It was clearly the Marcos Jr. government which kidnapped Duterte to be brought to the Hague. It was the PNP which physically brought him out of the airport and brought him together with his family to Villamor Air Base, which is a facility of the Philippine Air Force (PAF).
Former president Rodrigo Duterte was flown from Villamor Air Base last night to the International Criminal Court (ICC) headquarters in The Hague, the Netherlands, following his arrest on Tuesday.
In a statement, Duterte’s daughter, Vice President Sara Duterte, denounced the administration for the arrest.
Marcos ganged up with ICC to get rid of Duterte.
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Dont worry for me, have you heard of a saying ‘A grand chancellor’s stomach can pole a boat’ (宰相肚里能撑船), that means a great person is large-hearted or magnanimous enough to stomach truth and untruth.
Congratulations to the foreigners if singapore’s policies can help them to uplift their standard of living. But also hope the policies can help to uplift personal moral cultivation (素养).
Dont forget your minister’s reminder, foreigners sink root here, and become PR and citizens, so the younger singaporeans are also their ‘creation’. So, are you saying a FT is scolding all the FTs now?
Where is the problem?
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Yo Yo Yo
The video is about an 70 yo american in the Phillippines who have 8 girlfriends. He says they aren’t jealous if he screws their friends.
He also gets $2200 a month.
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So how is it that countries like Japan are able to thrive without FTs?
Spore is always looking for better.
Because your job is not good enough, your car is not good enough, your place of residence is not good enough. YOU are not good enough for THEM.
You hear it so often :”Oh you only earn $X amount? So and so earn much higher.”
So everybody wants high pay jobs.
Employers refuse to pay well. So job hopping is common. Now they Import FTs who can work for next to nothing.
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Former Georgian president sentenced to 9 years in prison. A court has found Mikhail Saakashvili guilty of embezzling approximately $3.2 million.
Poor Georgian President.
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ICC Criminals are busy persecuting Asians. Bigger criminals in other places are smiling.
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If we are observant and objective,we realise the PAP has done a very bad job on INTEGRATION BY ALIENS/FTs into our SINGQPIREAN SOCIETY.
As “newcomers” or as mere visitors,we are expected to observe and follow the SOCIETAL NORMS of the HOST COUNTRY.
Tell us this is not the case.
We can see ALIENS are IGNORING OUR SGPOREAN NORMS and even DARE EXPECT sgs to abide by their alien habits and conduct more and more despite the PAP INTEGRATION PARTIES and whatnot$ at sgs’ expense.
MOre and more “visitors/migrants/FTs” are behaving as if this Little Red Dot belongs to them.
Go check it out by being more attentive.
BTW,DO OUR PAP ELITES ATTEMPT SINCERELY,MINUS ELECTION WAYANG,TO IBTEGRATE WITH fellow ordinary sgs?
Do PAP sgs try their utmost best to INTEGRATE SINCERELY with OUR OPPO sgs?
You see PAP “SGS” EVEN CLAMP DOWN OPPO SGS IN A PLACE OF HONEST DISCOURSE LIKE PARLIAMENT.
THEY EVEN STOP NON-PAP sgs from airing their differing opinions via POFMA N FICA and BLA-BLA-BLA???
INTEGRATION MUST START AMONGST SGS FIRST.
And NON-SGS MUST BE MADE TO FOLLOW OUR EXISTING NORMS ,OUR SGPOREAN VALUES.
If we must be the ones to “integrate” into aliens’ norms HERE IN SG,then all of us must learn HOW TO SPIT OUR SALIVA,for instance,the way some aliens do so?
WHEN IN ROME,FOLLOW WHAT THE ROMANS DO.
And,if an Alien wish too ,he can try to show us his ways are better or not,right?
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Luckily our great PAP paid our politicians market rate upfront and thus minimizing the risk of being recruited by foreign power to betray Singapore.
Took US AIT and USAID money to betray island.
https://youtu.be/7nYu_cTawVw
Watch video till the end. (with evidence of audio)
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Are you sure that foreigner spit saliva and not Singaporean OLD MAN ?
https://youtu.be/Kp9fsS5vL1w
Today on service 80, I was preparing to alight when I saw a old man reading 晚报 spitted right there in the aircon bus.
You think I am lying? I had taken photo and indexed it. The index number is 3458 and 3461. I may send this photo to SBS to charge this old man.
You MUST be charged with spreading fake news that Singaporeans don’t spit.
I am very sure that foreigners are integrating with us by learning to spit from Singaporean old man.
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Market rate?
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“I HAVE been called stupid and ignorant for arguing that Article 59 of the Rome Statute does not apply to the case of Rodrigo Duterte’s arrest. However, those who hurl such insults fail to understand the correct legal interpretation of this provision. The truth is simple: Article 59 applies only when the custodial state — the country where the suspect is arrested — is a state party to the Rome Statute. It does not apply when the suspect is in a nonmember state.”
https://youtu.be/QgUrTQNS9gg
ICC ill-treat him. Criminals. International Criminals.
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As our population is almost 50 pct non-citizens,it is time to give exact numbers of PRs in real time.
Many PRs refuse to accept offers of Sg citizenship multiple times,WHY?
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This is correct. Duterte is kidnapped. What democracy ?
Duterte withdrew the Philippines from the ICC’s jurisdiction in 2019 and he can only be arrested if Philippines is a state party to the Rome Statute.
Apparently Marcos Junior conspire with CIA to pull off the arrest of Duterte to prevent him from challenging Marcos Junior.
Why ?
Because US is using Philippines as a cannon fodder to counter China’s military might in SCS.
Will Marcos Junior or William Lai be next cannon fodder after Zelenskyy?
Trump doesn’t want to carry a loser(Zelenskyy)…: Jeffrey Sachs’ explosive address at EU Parliament
https://youtu.be/EMkmq5tpWd0
Jeffrey Sachs : I repeat to them (Ukraine negotiator) the famous adage of Henry Henry Kissinger that to be an enemy of the US is dangerous but to be a friend is fatal.
Previously I said this: Ukrainians who voted for Zelensky MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for the massive destruction and loss of human lives.
Now that Jeffrey Sachs has proven that he had told Ukraine negotiator not to listen to US to save Ukrainian lives, then Zelensky MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for the massive destruction and loss of human lives.
Anyone here disagreed ?
Jeffrey Sachs addressed in EU Parliament is a Must watch.
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This foreigner spends lots of time attacking Singaporeans.
Fake story. Not an ounce of evidence. Even if he did see the old man, he had no evidence the old man was an old Singaporean. LIAR.
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We PAP supporters speak with facts.
Old man play loud music in bus
https://www.instagram.com/stompsingapore/reel/DFFC6WLBS3x/
Delinquents play loud music in bus
https://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/delinquents-spit-and-spray-bus-commuters-saliva-after-playing-music-full-blast
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Don’t be lazy. Go Google yourselves and you find your good Singaporeans in the news.
Old man play loud music in bus
https://www.instagram.com/stompsingapore/reel/DFFC6WLBS3x/
Delinquents play loud music in bus
https://www.tnp.sg/news/singapore/delinquents-spit-and-spray-bus-commuters-saliva-after-playing-music-full-blast
Old uncle spitting at Ang Mo Kio playground everyday
https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/resident-calls-out-disgusting-uncle-allegedly-spitting-ang-mo-kio-playground-almost-every
Old uncle spit beside car
https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/man-spits-beside-car-twice-claims-no-need-mask-after-vaccination
Spitting incidents
https://youtu.be/tfI_l2DpGsE
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