The irony of Tan Chuan-Jin’s remarks

It’s deeply ironic these Tan Chuan-Jin remarks:

(1) He wrote: I guess [Vietnam] can choose to define the past as they see fit. This doesn’t change the past as many view it.

Irony because: The Singapore PAP government distorts the past the way they see fit too, regardless of how many others view the past.

(2) He wrote: The strange thing is to see some Singaporeans (I assume they are and not created entities from other countries) who happily jump on the bandwagon and take issue with our Government and having no regard for history.

Irony because: The Singapore PAP government has also created entities known as IBs who have happily attack other Singaporeans, without regard for history.

(3) He wrote: Perhaps they have not read nor have any idea about what happened? Or worse. They know but still choose to snipe because it’s politically expedient.

Irony because: The Singapore PAP government wpd know about what happened in history (for example, with regards to Project Coldstore and the Marxist Conspiracy), and yet choose to snipe because it’s politically expedient.

Basically, the PAP is in no position to make such claims against another country when they are two sides of the same coin.

From what I’ve read, what happened with ASEAN, Vietnam and Cambodia is still disputed in the many roles and agendas each country has, as well as the different fears and suffering faced on all sides. To claim one’s history as real and the other’s not is to forget that each country has chosen to define history the way they see fit, in support of their agendas.

Fundamentally, 2-3 million people died in Cambodia and to make light of that by writing in a way that is as insensitive as allowing it to be interpreted that the Khmer Rouge regime should not be replaced is severely tone deaf and, well, basically, insensitive and not sensible at all, especially for that supposedly of a statesman.

And to still not dealt with it but hide behind the response of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, is also quite unbecoming. At some point, we need people who are able to acknowledge their insensitivities, to be able to recognise they made mistakes (even in speech) and to learn to let their ego go.

The irony is how most of the Southeast Asian governments have chosen to indulge so much in authoritarianism and propaganda that it’s difficult for all their citizens to see between fact and fiction, and how propaganda has become the centerpiece of rallying their individual populations that it means having to ‘save face’ and protect one’s ego instead of learning to find a way to reconcile.

When people say ASEAN is a joke, it is not because of us citizens who sincerely want peace between our nations, but when our statesmen who behave like kids who only know how to distort the truth for their own agendas, and deriding real historians while reinterpreting history to maintain power, then how can trust be forged between countries and how can our countries remain safe when basic trust cannot be built on truth and sincerity?

This incident need not happen in the first place, if sensibilities had existed. And if Singapore’s PAP government has not been so eager to keep using communism as a rallying cry for their rule. Are we still in the 1980s?

There was a time when Singapore was somewhat respected because, for the dictator that Lee Kuan Yew is, he had some sense. And he knew how to build relationships. At some point, you have to acknowledge that now that Lee Kuan Yew is gone, the hands steering our ship today simply do not have the same ability, and are doing a worse job. Singapore’s worth has diminished so much, that countries are realizing that even democratizing Malaysia might be an even better bet, as the geopolitical situation in Southeast Asia changes. From a trusted position as late as 10 years ago, Singapore is losing its reputation very quickly. And worryingly, this current PAP government does not seem to have any ideas anymore, except to keep harping on the 1980s. Dudes, we are in 2019 today.

Relying on PAP to right the wrong, is to hope that Hyflux would have the ability to turn itself around.

Well, it sank.

 

Roy Ngerng

 

 

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23 Responses to “The irony of Tan Chuan-Jin’s remarks”

  • N.Jungne:

    Alarmak where is Nas, his trusted friend. We treat him just like Nas a Foreigner

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  • Harder Truths:

    Good people of TRE and all oppo supporters.

    When things like this happen and are dragged out – there must be another important issue that is being covered up or being carried out at the same time that escapes attention.

    In other words – DIVERSION.

    Beware of swine selling pork.

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  • In retrospect:

    Roy, you give too much credit to LKY’s statesmanship. He would have fallen short if he had not the likes of Dr. Goh Keng Swee, Dr. Toh Chin Chye and Mr. Rajaratnam as his comrades around him; just like he has given far too little credit to his upon a time DPMs (Toh & Goh) such that all the sheeple below their forties hardly recognise our outstanding founding fathers. In fact, after the schism of the 80s LKY has brought this once veritable republic down the slippery spiral of party-anchored crony capitalist governance. But history ought to be in our own hands now, if we can see beyond the party’s political expedience and its manipulative political-economy.

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  • Evan:

    Junior,stand Corner b safe.

    Don,t run around.

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  • Bobo:

    Quote: “Well, it sank”.
    Perhaps 70% wants to see/witness how Singapore sank beautifully in next GE and our Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong, wants to increase it 75% to 80%.

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  • What does parrots know abt SIN:

    What young papists know abt Singapore would probably be from the time they entered NUS NTI but even then all they were desperately concerned abt would be to demand sets of lecture notes from his professors armed with the threat of giving those foreign jokers of bad end of the course report on them. Oh yea most probably part of their mind would be on how to get onto the bandwagon of GCT self gratification multimillion dollars pay check political parrots. So what they probably know would be the PAP self glorification version of Singapore History incl how his boss heroic rescue of the cable car tragedy. Oh yea in School he may be introduced to the approved version Singapore history. JBJ would either be a stranger or a very nasty n stupid man n how unwise he was not to join the effortless billionaire cabin but to be sued again n again beyond his pants drop. They would be so filled with wonder how terrific pap was n pa head filled with $s. Fakes r truths. Opacity is transparency. Self gratification by self legislation is a talent of talents. Aliens r more trustworthy than citizens. Citizens r daft n not in the desired agenda of greed, hunger n aggressiveness of the billionaire cabin. So look right look left Singaporeans all clamoured like GCT that what they r supplying service or materials r worth billions like the cabin members. So it becomes it is cheap to die than to be cured. Downgrading to give the hard earned property to the greed, hunger n aggressive aliens n billionaire mongers n cocked up in millions priced mouse holes. Ha this is Goh Chok Tong or RI nicked as ChokSwiss std of living but what is the real Swiss the billionaire cabin n club know well is the Swiss numbered account.

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  • cant take the heat?:

    PM has ‘gone into hiding’.
    today’s news reported he is on 1week leave.

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  • pap the fake news master:

    If Dr Mahatir does the merciful thing by liberating 70% sheep from pap tyranny, is it an invasion or is it a salvation?

    The answer is, It depends solely on the recipients of Dr Mahatir’s actions.

    So as recipients, should DR Mahatir do so, we say it is not invasion but merciful salvation by a kind statesman.

    Therefore, if the Cambodians receiving from Vietnam say, It is NOT invasion but merciful salvation, who the ffff who is NON Cambodian can say otherwise?

    Unless trying to cover up for the slip of tongue, why not be a gentleman and apologize. After all, this time, it is different from the case of slapping dana and getting away from it. Cambodians, and Vietnamese, are not 70% sheep.

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  • Karma is a bitch:

    He said, ‘Mai Pak Mata’

    The cock said, He said ‘pak mata’

    So incarceration…….jail jail n jail! Finish him!

    Why? Otherwise the cock cannot be the rooster of the land…..sinking land. Karma is a b*t*h……..show it immediately!

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    History according to WHO??? Lie Con You the Coward & Traitor who writes history according to his LIES as in his books written or dictated to IDIOTS???

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  • Guess:

    Guess 1 million HK protestors in action really outperformed by a long long shot over HLP….

    But will it make any changes ?probably not ?

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  • Empty vessel:

    Hmmm…. all the $m ministars strangely quiet as church mouse, this demoted chap popped out to become the loud hailer, by ownself or by higher order.

    This smart alec should stick to help promote seniors to do exercise like picking up cardboards lah

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  • TruBlu:

    This *deserted general* is desperately trying to get back into CLOWN PRINCE’S good book.

    So,he sound like a mad puppy barking anyhow.

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  • Hear AristoCATs Crow . . .:

    cant take the heat?:
    PM has ‘gone into hiding’.
    today’s news reported he is on 1week leave.

    -
    Dont play play.
    That’s Leadership . . .
    -
    Oops, spelling error.
    That’s LEEdership !!!

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  • Suicidal Bandwagon S'pore:

    Did Chuan Jin read about or does he have any idea why 129 of our grandpas and grandmas committed suicide in 2017 (2018 report out yet?). Might he be cognizant of the percentage of that tragic cohort of old Singaporeans who were resorting to collecting cardboards and miscellaneous just to keep their life-breath flowing?

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  • NUS NTU SMU ???:

    What does parrots know abt SIN:
    What young papists know abt Singapore would probably be from the time they entered NUS NTI but even then all they were desperately concerned abt would be to demand sets of lecture notes from his professors armed with the threat of giving those foreign jokers of bad end of the course report on them. Oh yea most probably part of their mind would be on how to get onto the bandwagon of GCT self gratification multimillion dollars pay check political parrots.

    1st, where did lky get his degree? NUS NTU SMU? no. lky got his from UK.

    2nd, where did lky son the clown and pinocchio teo and tharman botak get their degrees? NUS NTU SMU? no. they all got theirs from UK.

    3rd, where did heng, kee chiu, Aljunied reject ong ya kun get their degrees? NUS NTU SMU? no. they all got theirs from UK.

    the only one, the oddball, was seat warmer GOH CHOCK TONG. but, he is the worst of the lot, since his degree was NUS.

    many uninitiated 70% sheep gloat because they or their children from NUS NTU SMU, citing the fake news world class rankings of NUS NTU SMU. on paper, NUS ranks much higher than pinocchio teo Manchester or zorro the toothpick thief Loughborough. but are the rankings true?

    we don’t think so. Otherwise how come other than seat warmer GOH CHOCK TONG all the rest are not NUS NTU SMU? how come?

    BTW from kindergarten to U all under pap fake news brainwash. is this truly what we want for our children? ffff NO. U rankings are BS since the matrices can be manipulated especially when money is no object.

    some 70% sheep even gloat about medicine and law, forgetting that the barriers to entry are artificially, and politically set. after all, everyone reads more or less the same textbooks, how come medicine from Cambridge or Harvard needs to go through hoops to get FULL registration whereas NUS NTU automatic FULL after one year? politics. politics. politics.

    of course it is the prerogative of any country to set whatever laws it wants. but to say NUS NTU SMU medicine or law is this much greater than any other is probably pap FAKE news.

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  • Roy is Great !:

    Roy please help us voice up more.
    We are very timid people.
    You at least safer in Taiwan.

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  • A Nation Of Dafts:

    PAP still living in the past, parroted Vietnam invaded Cambodia, but Cambodia themselves feel that Vietnam liberated them. Vietnam feels they had liberated Cambodia.
    So where is outsider Sillypore in this equation? Sillypore has no business in this equation. It does not serve much for Sillypore to put up any stand, neither is it required.
    This is the same playbook that Sillypore used for South China Sea dispute.
    Countries involved in the dispute are willing to work with China and downplayed the issues, but not outsider Sillypore.
    Major overhaul is needed in our foreign service.
    They are still living in the past, playing the broken record.

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  • what nonsense:

    cant stand reading such infantile garbage coming out from PAPs…
    its getting more and more frequent these days.

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  • mike:
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  • Root of All Evils:

    Harder Truths:
    Good people of TRE and all oppo supporters.

    When things like this happen and are dragged out – there must be another important issue that is being covered up or being carried out at the same time that escapes attention.

    In other words – DIVERSION.

    Beware of swine selling pork.

    It is the age of the internet. Things get recorded and remain permanently.
    Only stupid fools will stick to outdated tricks like diversion for kids.
    But is is highly probable that Papies are still living in the past.
    Netizens will follow every event and incident carefully and relentlessly, holding all thieves to account.

    Internet is a God’s gift to a more honest world. Either get honest or perished.

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  • The End Already:

    Only lackies in Papies now.
    All think and parrot alike.
    What is left are inexperienced, disillusioned and self entitled fools.
    This country in deep shit.
    They are only interested in money and power.
    They can only accept with them or against them.
    They put self and party interests above country.

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  • Hopelessly Stupid:

    mike:
    These are what Mr Tan selectively picked for us to read:

    Speech by former colleague:
    https://www.mfa.gov.sg/Newsroom/Press-Statements-Transcripts-and-Photos/2011/11/Speech-by-Former-Deputy-Prime-Minister-Wong-Kan-Seng-at-the-S-Rajaratnam-Lecture-at-Shangri-La-Hote

    News reporting an UN application
    https://www.nytimes.com/1979/01/12/archives/sihanouk-appeals-to-un-council-to-get-vietnam-out-of-cambodia-a.html

    And a justification to why genocide should not be stopped?
    https://www.unscrambled.sg/2019/06/05/the-facts-around-the-statement-pm-lee-made-regarding-vietnams-invasion-of-cambodia/

    Who is Sihanouk?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norodom_Sihanouk

    If you read what people want you to read then you will be as daft as my countrymen and women.

    Where are the countries that were lashing out at Vietnam for the invasion??
    Did they chip in now in support of Singapore for the right “stance”? The context then and now is different. Many had moved on in history, but silly upstarts are still stuck in the past.
    Vietnam invaded to liberate Cambodia, at same time to make a friend. Cambodia liked it. So who is Sillypore to interfere and make a “stance” now in the old context? Stupid means stupid, Robert head means Robert head.
    Thot these self serving upstarts always preached not to interfere with other countries politics? So they can do not as they preached but not others?
    Knowing when not to say the right things is smart, but not knowing when not to say the wrong things is simply stupid. If you don’t understand you are plain stupid.

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