By DPM Heng’s yardstick, are the PAP themselves above reproach?

I watched Heng Swee Keat’s speech on television calling for the Worker’s Party MPs to recuse themselves from any financial responsibilities relating to AHTC. In principle, I agree that the underlying considerations are honesty, integrity and accountability which we as a people and government value highly.

However, by the same yardstick, are the PAP themselves above reproach?

When Dr Lee Wei Ling publicly accused her brother of an abuse of power, why didn’t PM Lee step down temporarily until he clears his name? Next, when Keppel O&M was fined US$422 million in the United States as part of a global settlement for corruption, did the relevant senior people at Keppel O&M step aside or lose their jobs as a result?

Over at AMK Town Council, did any of the 6 PAP MPs step aside when Victor Wong (AMKTC’s former GM) pleaded guilty to corruption charges that resulted in much of the town council’s funds being lost? And not forgetting the famous AIM case – did the 3 PAP directors of AIM step aside until full and satisfactory investigations were concluded?

In the true spirit of honesty, integrity and accountability, we must never, never tolerate or practice double standards or fall short of any of those values that we profess as precious to us as a people and as a government.

 

Simon Lim

 

 

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36 Responses to “By DPM Heng’s yardstick, are the PAP themselves above reproach?”

  • Boh Kia See:

    It is laughable when WP was asked to uphold integrity to the same standard as the PAP.

    In my view the PAP is a thuggish party without any standards of honour or integrity. Cases were mentioned above and by others that the PAP did not act along any principle of integrity and honesty. It is obvious to any casual observer that the PAP lacks any standard of integrity and honesty whatsoever. Just remember the AIM saga, and the promise of a smooth transition for the WP party. Even simple matters are made into big issues and covered up with lies.

    Edwin Tong mentioned about “the system” at AHTC is weak and hence the conviction. Think about AMK when the CEO was able to siphon off considerable sums of money. Is that “system” a “strong” system and well supervised?

    This fumbling Heng tells you how Singapore gets to agree on CECA. He was outplayed by the Indian Government.

    So VTO is the only way to maintain the standard of integrity and honesty that Singaporeans value and adhere to–not the PAP of all political parties.

    Get rid of the PAP if you want some breathing space for your children.

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  • Look At The Mirror Yourself:

    I also watched the debate on TV and was very disappointed that HSK has used many hours of our TV time and in the end getting nowhere. WTF.

    They talk about honesty, integrity, accountability, in the interest of the public etc. sound very impressive. Did the PAP practice what they preached ?

    If we are truly democratic why is our CPIB, NTUC. Election Committee, the Media etc..all controlled by the PAP ?

    The CPIB is under the PM Department. What if the PM or his ministers becomes corrupted ? Who got the power to arrest them ?

    In Pakistan a group of 10 judges sacked the PM because of corruption.

    What about the MP who gamble and lost public money in buying Lehman Brothers shares ? Anything happens to him ? Same story with Keppel corruption what happen ?

    Now there are many unemployed PMETS because of the signing of CECA Agreement with India. Did HSK, Woody and Georgie Boy ever think of Singaporean interest when they stupid signed the Agreement. The Indian leaders are very cunning and played us out. How much money did DBS Bank make in India – only S$2.5 million. Big Deal. How many PMETS got retrenched ? Now we cannot do anything or else they complain to the WTO.

    All the other leaders at the ASEAN Summit meeting recently were very smart and told India to fiack off when India wants to send their people to work in their countries.

    You all do not have the same calibre as LKY and his men. So please look in the mirror when you want to fix the WP.

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  • HDB flats depreciate to ZERO:

    Only REGIME CHANGE will ensure REAL accountability because it will result openness and transparency.

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  • Dakota:

    Hope parliament will debate more on how to

    Reduce cost of living.don’t debate deeds.

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  • Dakota:

    Any thing that parliament bring up

    Concern with law.wrong doer must face

    The law.

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  • un-un-un-beeliev-able:

    Asking WP to follow PAP standard? un-un-un-beeliev-able!

    PAP standard is ownself clear ownself. Others don’t need to know.

    On the contrary, PAP should follow WP standards. Open up all books for open and independent audits once every few months.

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  • oxygen:

    WHY MUST I BE REMINDED OF THIS YET AGAIN? Briginshaw law notoriety made its landmark in Australia in 1938 is long dead and buried in some unmarked graveyard in Australia.

    The ‘Briginshaw standard of proof’ was articulated in the High Court decision of Briginshaw v Briginshaw [1938] HCA 34; (1938) 60 CLR 336

    THE BRIGINSHAW ‘STANDARD OF PROOF’ IN
    ANTI-DISCRIMINATION LAW: ‘POINTING WITH A WAVERING FINGER’

    http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/MelbULawRw/2003/13.html

    The AHTC is pending appeal – it is not for anyone outside the judiciary to pretend that it has its own invented standard and rule of law because there is
    no third standard of proof in the common law.

    SUCH A CONDUCT IS REALLY POINTING WITH A WAVERING FINGER ALLEGING SOMEONE’S ALLEGED GUILT which has yet to be finally determined.Parly should not be made into a circus show.

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  • pap S$2 AIM Company:

    imagine the pap thieves having the gall to tell others not to steal.

    or for that matter, for pap liars having the gall to tell others not to lie.

    when the guilty tries to be holier than thou, their mannerisms give them away.

    watch how the pap lying thieving stroke heng haw’ed and hah’ed when he tried to bully esteemed WP members of parliament into agreeing in something false.

    the same blunder made by pap lying thieving disgrace fool when she tried to bully esteemed fellow citizen Ms Sylvia Lim in parleement.

    long story short. as long as esteemed WP Ms Sylvia Lim and Mr Low TK stand firm, what can the lying thieving pap liars thieves do other than make of FOOL of themselves.

    after all, fixing OPPO isn’t so easy when own hands are so blackeningly dirty.

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  • 4th World Ramesh:

    Don’t do what I do……….Do what I tell you to do!

    Pappies mantra?

    AIm saga………..the cock who lost town council monies at Bukit Panjang tc…………oh Bukit Panjang residents ………why are you still keeping that pappy?

    The list goes on…………Nassim Jade discount…………donated to charity………….one egg you get 2?

    What about you supervise leechin at work………..no corruption……….she’s supervises you at home……………she asked citizens to buy HDB…………..it’s none of her business unless she stands in an erection, right? HDB nobody wants not even 4th world Ramesh, ya?

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  • support WP:

    we should Vote In people of higher caliber than these PAP thugs!
    theyre shown their full colors more than once.
    HSK is the DPM….very soon our next PM. not that the present PM is any better.
    we’re been double doomed now.

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  • can we change the dpm:

    HSK as next PM is a weird choice.
    maybe no one else wants the post?
    his way of speaking is too weak and unimpressive..
    more countries will walk all over us in future!
    vto vto vto..

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  • PAP Circus:

    This whole circus act shown on TV is a waste of tax-payers money. Anyone who is not daft will see through this fumbling act as a concerted attempt to discredit the three WP MPs. The WP stole the show!

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  • why suffered in silence:

    Totally agreed with you that there must not be double standard for honesty, integrity and accountability. Pinky must have tutored HSK on his first lesson on how to fix the opposition and the script had been written for him. Thats why HSK could not reply impromptu to Sylvia’s questions and search his script frantically for answers and adjourned it to obtain help.This moral of this episode is that we need more opposition in parleement to deny them a two third majority .

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  • TruBlu:

    Whether it is the PAP gahmen or the WP oppo MPs,TOWN COUNCILLORS MUST ACCOUNT TO THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE’S MONEY.

    HONESTY AND INTGRITY ARE BASIC PRINCIPLES NOT JUST BECOS THEY ARE HUMAN MORAL VALUES,THEY ARE NECESSARY CHARACTERISTICS OF GOOD GOVERNANCE FROM THE MINISTER DOWN TO THE LOWLIEST CIVIL SERVANT.

    THE SAME is expected of ANY OPPO PARTY WHICH ASPIRES TO GUARD AND CHECK THE SYSTEM AND WHO ASPIRE TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE GOVT.

    SGS MUST NOT TAKE SIDES UNFAIRLY.
    Thats WHY we need to REFORM THE CIVIL SERVICE AND GOVT AGENCIES as TOO MANY OUTSIDE INTERFERENCES(ala GRASSLOOTERS) ARE NOW INFLUENCING HOW OUR CIVIL SERVANTS ARE CARRYING OUT THEIR SACRED DUTIES TO THE NATION.

    WISE LEADERS LIKE DR GOH N RAJARATNAM KNEW THAT, ABOVE ALL, THE STRINGENT CHOICE FOR GOOD N UPRIGHT GRASSROOT MEMBERS/LEADERS WHO HAS THE INTRGRITY AND HONESTY TO SERVE OTHERS IS IMPORTANT.

    WHY DO WE SEE SG SOCIETY DISINTERGRATING?

    GRASSROOT HAS BECONE grassLOOT.

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  • Lye Khuen Way:

    I agree, “Boh Kia See”.
    My big fat finger clicked on the thumb down!

    Shame on the DPM for not knowing his accountancy and the Law.

    Boh Kia See:
    It is laughable when WP was asked to uphold integrity to the same standard as the PAP.

    In my view the PAP is a thuggish party without any standards of honour or integrity. Cases were mentioned above and by others that the PAP did not act along any principle of integrity and honesty. It is obvious to any casual observer that the PAP lacks any standard of integrity and honesty whatsoever. Just remember the AIM saga, and the promise of a smooth transition for the WP party. Even simple matters are made into big issues and covered up with lies.

    Edwin Tong mentioned about “the system” at AHTC is weak and hence the conviction. Think about AMK when the CEO was able to siphon off considerable sums of money. Is that “system” a “strong” system and well supervised?

    This fumbling Heng tells you how Singapore gets to agree on CECA. He was outplayed by the Indian Government.

    So VTO is the only way to maintain the standard of integrity and honesty that Singaporeans value and adhere to–not the PAP of all political parties.

    Get rid of the PAP if you want some breathing space for your children.

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  • Sinkie:

    PAP elites “cannot be silent” on India CECA, SWF Temasek salaries . . .

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  • USA never criticise SG:

    If they debate in SG , they win.
    If they debate in Oxford, Cambridge, Stanford, they lose.

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  • DavidLKSee:

    (1) WHAT Smart S’pore Voters think of the PAP Political Tactics of “BUY Votes, FIX Opposition”; Sue-ing Netizens & Opposition Politicians into Bankruptcy (AS IF they are gods that cannot be criticised !!!), Staging Super-Big Parliament “Wayang Shows” ["Chor Hee" in Hokkien]…etc, etc:

    “…a most unprofessional/unbecoming/uncouth and deplorable/disgraceful/detestable political behaviour…” — that will NEVER “EARN” them any RESPECT, TRUST & especially VOTES from S’pore Voters !!!

    (2) Coming General Elections — ENOUGH is ENOUGH of PAP ARROGANCE & INCOMPETENCE !!!
    Absolutely LAST CHANCE for S’pore Voters to VOTE OUT as many PAPpies as possible.
    (Realistically, not possible to VOTE OUT the whole bunch at one go — because of the 70% Voters who have been “brain-washed” or made “brain-dead” by PAP election carrots, fake news and propaganda bullshit.)

    (3) Quotable Quotes (COMPULSORY READING for PAP Obscenely-Overpaid Petty-Minded Muddle-Headed Multi-Millionaire Ministers):

    >> “A Nation of SHEEP will begat a Government of WOLVES.”

    >> “When The People is afraid of the Government, there is TYRANNY.
    “When the Government is afraid of the People, there is DEMOCRACY.”

    >> “A Government may Fool MOST People MOST of the time, but definitely NOT All People ALL the time.”

    (4) PAP = Play-dirty Arrogant Politicians (spot-on version 1)

    PAP = PATHETIC And PARANOID (spot-on version 2)

    PAP = PISSED And PISSED (angry version)

    PAP = PHUI And PHUI (disgusted version. Cantonese for spitting not just once but twice — in TOTAL DISGUST)

    PAP = PEE And POO [ Pang-jio And Pang-sai in Hokkien]
    (yes, as disgusting as smelly urine [pee] and stinky shit [poo])

    PAP = PILFER And PLUNDER
    (yes, as disgusting as the Barbarians who invaded Ancient China; plundered the wealth of the people; molested the peoples’ wives and gang-raped their virgin daughters)

    PAP = PIMPS And PROSTITUTES
    (yes, yes, both disgusting and immoral)

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  • hunting season for year 2019:

    hunting season for year 2019 on “fixing opp” has begun ?

    the short memory of daft sinkies who may easily forget the “integrity and honesty” parts on old matters abt Oujuneed TRC has to be rekindled ?

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  • Mental Pressure For HSK:

    Why is HSK and the legal Ministers making fools of themselves on our national TV ? Look after yourself as this Mental Pressure by yourself or whoever is no good for your health.

    Sooner or later you may suffer another episode. Take care.

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  • Asd:

    Cult bai liang Jiao (wong fei hong movie ) all educated ? Under handed tactics ? Go in by crawling under the back door hole and turn a blind eye to the people because of money, Can’t believe the education system has evolved such characters…

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  • Attack dog:

    B4 ascending the dragon throne soon, bugeye heng took central stage and tries very hard to be a hatchet man and tough lookong like dead old man. But it turns out to be a washout, fumbling through the papers.

    Be yourself lah. If not, he won’t last long and kena round 2 of stroke.

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  • Bobo:

    People must have supported him without understanding the CECA agreement. They are good at casting big beautiful dreams and the gong-gong people take more than 10 years to realise the broken dreams and fake promises. Thank you, Mr. Simon Lim for enlightening everyone of us.

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  • is this all heng is about?:

    instead of doing his best to avoid GST going up from 7% to 9%, pap heng rather prefers to copy pap clown tactic in fixing OPPO.

    but as truth has it, pap heng hemed and hawed. how come? because probably speaking lies is’t really his forte. but since wanting to impress pap clown his current boss, try lah, but failed miserably.

    in the end, is this all the leader of the pap 4 gen pack can do?

    then Singapore completely no hope if 70% sheep does not wake up.

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  • Keppel Corrupt Management:

    Not only the corrupted officers got free but were very well rewarded, the shareholders have to pay their fines. Rightly no fines should be paid as this would implicate the CEO is behind the deal. The corrupt officers should pay fines or face any alternate punitive measures eg jsil by the host nation. If CEO is implicated he shpuld face the laws
    . But the cuprits got rewarded instead n the shareholders r slapped with the fines. This is SIN justice n claim of no corruption. Isn’t the CEO involved was a former Cabinet minister of PAP. However wonderful LHY n LWL r proven right. CB n Dynasty agenda!

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Why BOTHER to even comment on an IDIOT’s performance …it is there for all to see & watch an IDIOT performing to the Gallery!!!

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  • Abusing the party whip:

    Q: What is the donkey’s favourite party game?

    A: Pinning the tail on a caricature of a human being….

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  • NotMyProblem:

    There was a saying “When you want to smell other’s backside, make sure your own backside is clean”,

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  • what the...???:

    HSK and the rest of PAPs made blinking fools of themselves in parliament..
    ..but i loved Ms Sylvia lim’s facial expressions thro out.
    we who were watching the debate were equally saying to ourselves like what ???!!!
    some bits were really cringe worthy.
    hardly a debate at all.

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  • to put truth on record, bro:

    patriot of TUMASIK:
    Why BOTHER to even comment on an IDIOT’s performance …it is there for all to see & watch an IDIOT performing to the Gallery!!!

    must comment bro, since nothing in Internet is ever erased.

    this is for posterity.

    soon when all the pap lying thieves are indicted by New Government, our comments shall remain as a record of their lies.

    although we agree we should avoid evil, but when it comes to pap lying thieving evil, we must make the effort to comment, so that a trail exists in Internet for future use by New Government to put them all to jail.

    idi amin of Uganda kenna finally. ceausescu of romania kenna. pap liar lky escaped by up the lorry. but the rest of pap hopefully kenna before they up the lorry. as history has it, sure kenna one.

    because heaven has eyes.

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  • Abuse of Parliament:

    They are in such a hurry to fix the Opposition that they must run ahead of the Court’s decision on WP’s appeal. It is part of a wider strategy to throw dirt at the Opposition. Parliament is not to be used for “fixing” the Opposition. It is to debate national issues and find solutions that matters to the people.

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  • WP Standard Bearer:

    If PAP is the standard for “honesty, integrity and accountability” then the above examples show that they have fallen short by their own standard. The very fact that WP has won successive elections and remained in Hougang and Aljunied for a good many years show that their constituents believe them to be men/women of honesty, integrity and accountability. They even beat the well-respected GY and his PAP team. That should speak for itself.

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  • Hawking Eye:

    PAP lacks speakers of Hsien Loong, Tharman Shanmugaratnam and George Yeo caliber. The others need to be sent for training in public speaking. I once attended such a training conducted by an American lady speech trainer. She asked each one of us in the class to yell loud one at a time. The message: Voice must be loud and clear.

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  • Hawking Eye:

    When officials(politicians) entrusted with public funds dip their hand into the kitty, they need to be publicly shamed and punished. Embody canning in the punishment regime and I am sure such offences will be drastically reduced.

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  • What they r good at?:

    They r above law. They pee n pee on the Constitu n G ai si is PAP own company. What? K want few millions for his nuke. Give. What abt T, he want Quick pour Koh. Give. A
    base is ood for SIN . Historic man. What do the stupid HSnD know? Old man think idiot more suitable for this job! Now $7 m to stop escoot. PRC clever students r going to scream yet again 哗哗;哗啦啦;好多油 三十五万人民币. 了不得咂。小李小陈小王 大家做星公民:过两年后可变成千千万富翁。 讨,公民这样容易吗!他娘呀容易得很。皮呀皮求得很。咽不要这样賤跟他们不是更賤吗…有千千万才回祖国喊祖国还不迟呢!

    Yes, millions can break a scum backbone, steal his soul n ask it to bull n shit it will do just that even on themselves. Very wet n very oily.ho ho ho down in to the dark chimney with $$$$$$$$$ in the bags. So dark. so safe. CBs cover up all the peek holes so that kpkb noises don’t seep in. Ho Ho Ho le Ho le ho leeeeeee!

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  • 贪就是罪:

    貪就要偷,偷就有罪. i罪没受罚。 就有屁虫法官。有屁虫,国就垮民就会受牵连受苦。最好就把这羣猪狗不如趕掉:法律处罚。打入監牢要说几年就是几年像他们无法无天地对何毛小孩有家不可回真是畜生不如。又贼又賤的一羣男女王八啊:可怜垂知的星民呀,该醒来吧处理这些王八不是人的东西:

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