Singapore will collapse without PAP

Ms Low Yen Ling

I have read that Senior Parliamentary Secretary for Education and Manpower Low Yen Ling (LYL) is down with dengue fever. I don’t know her but I wish her well and a speedy recovery.

I feel that this incident holds some valuable lessons for those sucker Singaporeans who fear that if the pap government were voted out of office in the General Election, Singapore will collapse. I disagree. Let me explain.

Absolutely nobody throughout human history has been indespensible and all of history’s great men and women had become ashes and the world marches on.

Whether LYL has reported for work or not at MOE or MOM, both ministries carry on and life goes on. Neither one closed down because SPS LYL is down with dengue fever and unable to turn up for work. In the absence of great leaders such as George Washington, Mao ZeDong, Deng Xiao Ping or Lee Kuan Yew, the USA, China and Singapore carry on and life continues.

Likewise, if the pap is eventually booted out of office, life in Singapore will also continue except that the ability and quality of the men and women who replace them will determine if Singapore and her citizens will scale greater heights or regress going forward.

Given the state of a weak and deteriorating pap leadership and government, the opportunity cost isn’t too scary. Worldwise Warren Buffett has taught the world that should you find yourself in a chronically leaking boat, energy devoted to changing boats is more productive than energy devoted to patching leaks.

We are now in a chronically sinking pap boat. Singaporeans should be wise enough to recognise that the time for us to change boat has descend upon us. Please be brave and do the right thing for yourself and your children’s future. Think.

 

Simon Lim

 

 

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53 Responses to “Singapore will collapse without PAP”

  • Top Money for Top Talents:

    Dear Simon,
    Yes, if you vote out PAP Singapore will collapse.

    Opposition will form weak government that can easily manipulated by LGBT to legalize Poke Ass Policy.(PAP)

    Facts 1: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=450158922272464
    Facts 2: https://formosapride.com/

    Taiwan DPP government is so proud of legalize Poke Ass Policy (PAP) in public that even DPP MPs celebrate with them.

    The DPP MP said: Human right means able to poke backside freely and publicly.

    Dear Singaporeans, if you vote in opposition, opposition will legalize backside poking aka Poke Ass Policy (PAP).

    Do you want PAP for your children ?

    GE2020.PAP.Guarantee.Win.All
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster.
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Too much damage has already been done by the pappies. The economy depends on a system that depends on too much tourism. too much FT and too much on oil trade.

    The world’s economy is entering a depression. Anyone under 55 will not know how bad things can get – this is 80% of the local population. Companies scared of high density working conditions from CoVID or simply to save money will move from $G to possibly another cheaper ASEAN nation or India – where there is plenty of cheap land and labour for peanuts.

    In fact, $G’s flagship companies JTC has built massive cities and industial zones in India. Banks especially can move operations to such places and virtual offices can be put in $G for local business. DBS is already well established there under CECA. It will not be hard. Money talks.

    Manufacturing is mostly dead – China, Taiwan and Korea will produce a glut of products to sell to the West at a fraction of $G’s cost just to keep their people employed and fed. $G has no way to compete with that. The USA regardless of trade issues cannot do without Chinese goods. Our semiconductor industry – the backbone of the local trade has no meaning under these conditions.

    Banks have too high debt that now cannot be paid back by people losing jobs. The oil sector has crashed – the cash cow for the government has gone down the drain.

    Forget about tourism and high rental properties. These are dead. The tourrism employees, taxi drivers, housing agents are going to have to find another type of work. (Sorry Geylang is full).

    What kind of future will $G locals have after the loss of the jobs from foreign companies? The government employs lots of locals but even more FT in the civil service. They will have to slash government jobs or pay people with money from higher taxes from the people themselves. Who is now going to pay for all the expensive toys the government is bailing out like SIA, SilkAir and possibly a lot more government-linked and pappy-owned companies?

    The $G population has failed. It has failed to put in a government that looks after the citizens in times of crises. That time is now. And there is no question the citizens will now start paying the price.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    If anyone thinks without the PAP, Singapore will collapse is a person without any brain. Not only for Singapore, it can be for any country in the world!!

    We have seen leaders came and gone, some replaced, some kicked out, some died. You see that countries go on, mostly become better than the previous.

    Only countries without leadership change are those with their progress stunted. When there was no change in leadership, there would not be any new ideas. No new ideas no innovation, no progress.

    Did you notice PAP leaders always use old ideas, because they are not capable to accept new ideas? New ideas are threats to the PAP! That bad for the country and its people!

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  • Life:

    Just look at some ancient “civilizations” or “cultures”. After thousand of years and changing of countless dynasties and leaderships, they is still life in them. The only fear of change stems primarily from an ego, a highly selfish ego who only wants to protect self interest.

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  • AristoCATs - Crisis Management:

    “Absolute Power – Corrupts Absolutely.”

    Look back when GCT and LHL started . . .

    Promise of “Inclusive”, “kinder, gentler” gov.

    In reality, lawsuits for other politicians.
    -

    Of course, over time they evolved their sophistication. . .
    Now, “Fake News” law . . .

    -
    The sun also set. . .

    Large organizations – look at IBM, GE, etc.

    -
    We are witnessing AristoCATs “Crisis Management” over Dorms Outbreak . . .
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    So, Remember the Ballot Box !

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    The System is in PLACE owing to a GROUP of Dedicated Founding Generation Leaders and Civil Servants…

    A Big Mouth is Just That a Big Mouth with NO SUBSTANCE but to talk about the Achievements as his and his ALONE…

    Like the Fake News, it will AMPLIFY accordingly to the Piper and his Big MOUTH!!!

    Meanwhile, the Silent Achievers will go on doing their JOBS and carrying out their responsibilities NOT seeking Glory but Pride in what they do!!!…

    A system every Singaporean can be Proud of bar the ILLUSIONS of White Elephants created by a Big Mouth and his Fake News Beholden but NOT BOLD!!!

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  • A Quranic counsel:

    3:14 Beautified for people is the love of what they desire – women and sons, heaps of gold and silver, fine branded horses, cattle and well-tilled lands. These are the pleasures of life in the present world, but the best destination is with God (in Paradise).

    57:20 Know that the life of this world is play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting among you, and rivalry in respect of wealth and children. (It is) the likeness of vegetation after rain, its growth thereof is pleasing to the farmer but it soon dries up and you see it turning yellow, then transforms to straw….

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  • Lye Khuen Way:

    Simon Lim’s quote of Warren Buffet is most appropriate in our current dire situation.

    This COVID-19 Pandemic has shaken many countries and exposed many myths and beliefs.

    No man nor any Political Party is indispensable.

    Those in power would dearly like the masses to believe that only they can continue and able to overcome the Pandemic and the economic turmoil it brings.

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  • Asd:

    No one is indispensible

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  • Tremendous:

    There will be a major difference when the chiefs are booted out. That’s when villagers will discover that a huge part of their central village funds have gone up into smoke due to investment losses. As long as the chiefs are still around and they continue filling the funds pipeline with current contributions, villagers will still be in the dark.

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  • Govt vs Party:

    Minus the cronie-supporters who probably make up 25% of the 70%, there are a large number of chicken-rice-eating adoring papiggie suckers {CRAPs}
    These CRAPs do not have the faintest idea of how democracy or govt works.
    As it is the power is more and more being concentrated in the hands of the Unholee couple.
    The other 12 or so in Cabinet are becoming extras on the set.
    North Korea –here we come!
    —The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. – Plato

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  • Nobody is indispensable:

    This mayonnaise down with dengue becomes such a big deal to be reported.

    Even if pinky suddenly kicks the bucket, stock market won’t collapse.

    It’s not surprising that it may actually go up!

    What do you think?

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  • MarBowling:

    THINK Simon is absolutely right. It’s time we should change the BOAT! As far as we know, for donkey years, the Ruling Class Under the PAPigs and filthy rich have been RIDING on the SAME BOAT while the rest of the population have been Riding on small sampans! Period.

    THINK it’s RIGHT and HIGH TIME to CHANGE POSITION. I.e it’s “TIME TO SAY GOODBYE” for the Ruling Class under Mai Hum and his PAPigs RIDING SO FIACKING LOONG ON THE SAME BOAT! AND It’s NOW THE RIGHT TIME in the coming PANDEMIC ERECTION for SOME PATRIOTIC AND DEDICATED TRUE BLUE SINGAPOREAN CURRENTLY RIDING ON THE SAMPANS TO THROW AND EVICT ALL THOSE PAPIGS MF, JLB, CB, LJ, USELESS AND MONEY FACE BUGGERS FROM THE ROTTEN TO THE CORE BOAT AND SINK IT! Upon achieving THIS PHENOMENON, the REST of the folks riding on the sampans WILL JOIN THESE PATRIOTIC AND DEDICATED FOLKS to build A BRAND NEW BOAT TO MAKE SINGAPORE GREAT AGAIN(MSGA)!

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  • Vto:

    The retarded spastic 70% are still kissing pappy backside, and will die without them.

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  • Hopelesslyuselessgov:

    Hahahahaha

    Hahahahaha

    Hahahahaha

    More likely foreigners will run road ….

    Mostly MY, CN, IN, ppl

    All are ” GUTTER GARBAGE ”

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  • Mayday! Mayday!:

    I would rather be in a safe sampan than a leaking yatch! Unfortunately, majority of Singaporeans are a gutless bunch. They have been lead by the nose all these years and can no longer think for themselves. They are not even courageous enough to vote in a good number of opposition members to provide a meaningful “check and balance” in parliament. So how can you expect the 69.9% Singaporeans to displace the incumbent Gahmen? The stark difference in performance and commitment between the old leaders and the current bunch is so evident and yet this group of 69.9% Singaporeans have eyes but don’t want to see; have ears but don’t want to hear; can VTO but too afraid to change.

    No government is indispensable!

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  • trublu:

    MAYBE?
    BUT sgs oredy collapsed with PAP fouling?

    what is there to lose if we replace them with some other sgs who are willing to serve sincerely?

    how many older jobless sgs got a decent job back?
    so?

    whats there to stop you or harm you from giving others a chance and ,in a way,yourselves a chance too?

    maybe you can get back a decent job?
    maybe you can take back your CPF?
    MAYBE GST CAN BE REFUNDED OR STOPPED FOR ESSENTIALS LIKE MEDICALS ESPECIALLY FOR AGEING SGS ?

    MAYBE FOR THE YOUNG ONES,NO NEED TO SQUEEZE INTO PUBLIC TOILETS TO MAKE BABIES???

    MAYBE OUR KIDS CAN HAVE REAL MILK TO DRINK?

    MAYBE THAT OLD BENDED LADY NO NEED TO GO COLLECT CARDBOARDS?
    and you wont get POFMA-ed for constructive criticisms?

    maybe,by then.the PAP members will join you in public criticism of bad policies?

    maybe the PAPple will become the opposition,wouldnt these possibilities be interesting?

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Vto:
    The retarded spastic 70% are still kissing pappy backside, and will die without them.

    You are right, there are people in the 70% think PAP produces oxygen for them. The thing is why like that??!! We have 7 out of 10 working adults are graduate of all kinds from all over the world, don’t they know oxygen doesn’t come from PAP’s backside??!!

    No wonder foreigners take over our jobs!!

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  • Spore need political stability:

    Singaporeans are not suckers. They are very wise. They understand what is political stability.
    If there is political risk and policies risk, investors will not invest and there will be less opportunities or jobs for us.
    Nothing comes naturally. Jobs and opportunities have to be created.
    One bad policy can send investors fleeing enough to make us jobless.
    If the prosperity today we are enjoying is due to our strategic location and is a necessity for investors to be here, then whoever is running Singapore doesn’t matter.
    Policies and credibility in the government is important to our success.
    One simple example,
    We keep scolding our government for making us Pay and Pay. Those who don’t understand the necessity to save for raining days will always criticise them.
    Now in this storm we are facing, we understand the importance of our savings. Without our reserves, where are we to borrow the $63 billion to help Singaporeans and businesses?

    So once the confidence is lost and stability is gone, it can send the investors fleeing and it will be disastrous for us.
    Where can we look for jobs?

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  • Also Kenna Dengue:

    A month ago .. on a Saturday night I felt I had fever .. The next day I went straight to X General Hospital .. before leaving I told Wife I was prepared to be hospitalised maybe at least a week .. and that she may also get quarantine order .. Long wait expected when arriving A&E .. blood sample taken .. Finally I was given some Panadol and discharged .. that’s it! .. My condition just fever: more than +38C, no coughing, no sore throat, no sneezing … was told to go X Polyclinic for review if necessary .. two days later body temp still high, felt pain in whole body, some rashes on part of body .. The following Tuesday I went to X polyclinic .. again blood sample taken , thru nose DNA taken .. finally C19 was eliminated, Dengue confirmed .. Again, Panadol given .. Finally after 8~9 days I fully recovered .. Later I came to learn .. some folks take much longer time to recover …

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  • UniQ:

    When I read the Title, it nearly LAUGH DIE ME …lololololol

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  • Creations Of Pinky:

    Pinky creates his own nation. He wants the public to open their ears and eyes but shut their brains and mouths. Anybody going against will be made a bankrupt or end up in jail. That’s why we do not have any inventions, innovations or any creative ideas. All these supposed to be done by Pinky.

    Even Ministers cannot open their mouths because if they do so they will have to sacrifice their million dollars salary.

    But Pinky is not able to produce results and Singapore is a gone case

    The only solution now is to Vote Out The PAP for the sake of our children and grand children.

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  • Con Queen:

    all said,the reason for most governance failures is LACK OF CHECKS N BALANCE.

    If there is enough check-points,who dares to ‘eat s*ake’ and still be arrogant?

    i tell you,no problem,let them be govt but make sure have enough CHECKS N BALANCE to psuh them to work harder for us?

    sgs seem not to be able to understand this simple thing and that is why even their CPF kena kelong.

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  • Makan Saja:

    Life:
    Just look at some ancient “civilizations” or “cultures”. After thousand of years and changing of countless dynasties and leaderships, they is still life in them. The only fear of change stems primarily from an ego, a highly selfish ego who only wants to protect self interest.

    If you care to just do your due diligence, you will be shocked to know how many civilisations have disappeared without a trace!

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  • oxygen:

    @ Spore need political stability

    LUNATIC HALLUCINATION & cunning mischief in concealment cover. In the last 30 years, have we germinate and cultivate JUST ONE SINGLE GLCs with some global footprint as compared to the achievements of the first two decades post independence when we HAD FAR LESS RESOURCES to begin with.

    The quest for stability under the cover of INACTIVISM of basically do-nothing- despite rapid global change BURY INCOMPETENCE, CREATIVITY AND INNOVATIONS – only serves the PRESERVATION of PAPpypolitics hegemony and longevity.

    GLOBALISATION IN THE LAST TWO DECADES opened up the door for an open economy like LEE-jiapore to populate itself with new seeds of growth via GLCs. AND WE SCORED NOTHING.

    Spore need political stability: Singaporeans are not suckers. They are very wise. They understand what is political stability.
    If there is political risk and policies risk, investors will not invest and there will be less opportunities or jobs for us.
    Nothing comes naturally. Jobs and opportunities have to be created.
    One bad policy can send investors fleeing enough to make us jobless.
    If the prosperity today we are enjoying is due to our strategic location and is a necessity for investors to be here, then whoever is running Singapore doesn’t matter.
    Policies and credibility in the government is important to our success.
    One simple example,
    We keep scolding our government for making us Pay and Pay. Those who don’t understand the necessity to save for raining days will always criticise them.
    Now in this storm we are facing, we understand the importance of our savings. Without our reserves, where are we to borrow the $63 billion to help Singaporeans and businesses?

    So once the confidence is lost and stability is gone, it can send the investors fleeing and it will be disastrous for us.
    Where can we look for jobs?

    That is why I agree with @ Creations of Pinky comment

    Creations Of Pinky: we do not have any inventions, innovations or any creative ideas…..Singapore is a gone case/blockquote>

    NOW WITH DEGLOBALISATION, STRATEGIC GEOGRAPHY COUNTS FOR NOTHING. And you still insist of doing nothing of internally-instructed structural change of our political and economic architecture and engineering in a CHANGED WORLD OUTSIDE.

    YOU WANT US ALL TO WAIT AND DIE with mass starvation within, IS IT?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Spore need political stability

    That portion of comment below is mine.

    oxygen: NOW WITH DEGLOBALISATION, STRATEGIC GEOGRAPHY COUNTS FOR NOTHING. And you still insist of doing nothing of internally-instructed structural change of our political and economic architecture and engineering in a CHANGED WORLD OUTSIDE.

    YOU WANT US ALL TO WAIT AND DIE with mass starvation within, IS IT?

    AND FOR GOODNESS SAKE, we either adapt to global change or we be left rotting in irrelevant obsolescence of INACTIVISM seeking calm and stability of the status quo which has CLEARLY FAILED UTTERLY..

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  • oxygen:

    @ Spore needs political stability

    Mate, you really imbibed the CATERPILLAR MENTALITY of greed dependency on being fed by others – the same degenerated culture that inhabited our national psyche and economic lethargy in the last 3 decades.

    There are only two world divide of mindset – THOSE SEEKING TO BE EMPLOYED AND THOSE SEEKING TO BE EMPLOYING or at least self-employing – the former is parasitic living on the fringe of corporate/business skeleton and won’t survive without it and the LATTER is entrepreneurial of food hunting and necessary sharing in an competitive economic landscape.

    In deglobalisation now, foreign investors WILL RETURN HOME or diversifying their supply change, Spore much touted strategic location now counts for S-H-I-T from today. You either go out and conquer the world or left to sit stupid watching the world changed and sweep by, to die of hunger poverty.

    In the last 3 decades, WE WALKED BACKWARD – some GLCs gone – for example National Iron and Steel Mills. Intraco was no success despite Singapore is a global sized trading hub . Singtel and SIA balance sheets each has multi-billions of cash in their coffers and NO DEBT, now both are riddled with huge BILLIONS OF BORROWINGS. In crisis, now SIA needs huge rescue bailout in billions of new capital injection with taxpayer’s money essentially.

    AND YOU WANT NO CHANGE AND STABILITY?

    You fit the apt descript of CATERPILLAR MENTALITY – waiting to be employed. There are at least 6.7 billions of the same kind in the world, except cheaper most likely better too, waiting to outclass and outlast you in your cosy comfort of STABILITY-NO-CHANGE-SLEEPING WORLD.

    Me thinks it is easier surviving in the employer side employing others instead with bigger harvest of rewards IF YOU ARE SMART AND COMPETITIVE ENOUGH.

    No matter what, your choice is NOT my preferred flavor to live in this world for Singapore next generation.

    Spore need political stability: So once the confidence is lost and stability is gone, it can send the investors fleeing and it will be disastrous for us.
    Where can we look for jobs?

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  • wat a self serving mindset:

    collapse w/o PAP?
    mayb the ministars will but not us citizens
    ..the ministars will lose their undeserving mil$ salaries thats why they say that!

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  • Bobo:

    We do not rely on one single cook for more than 50 years. The same cook has lost his interest after he realised that we could not take his poor cooking anymore. so what must we do to prevent him from adding toxins to our food? Nobody in the world will pity us if we died from foods poisonings because we are fools. we can’t make simple decision.

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  • Myths & Fallacies:

    Ya la robot. Keep repeating something and it becomes true.

    Top Money for Top Talents:
    Dear Simon,
    Yes, if you vote out PAP Singapore will collapse.

    Opposition will form weak government that can easily manipulated by LGBT to legalize Poke Ass Policy.(PAP)

    Facts 1: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=450158922272464
    Facts 2: https://formosapride.com/

    Taiwan DPP government is so proud of legalize Poke Ass Policy (PAP) in public that even DPP MPs celebrate with them.

    The DPP MP said: Human right means able to poke backside freely and publicly.

    Dear Singaporeans, if you vote in opposition, opposition will legalize backside poking aka Poke Ass Policy (PAP).

    Do you want PAP for your children ?

    GE2020.PAP.Guarantee.Win.All
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster.
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • Poke yourself:

    So PAP = Poke Ass Policy? Hahahaha…

    Top Money for Top Talents:
    Dear Simon,
    Yes, if you vote out PAP Singapore will collapse.

    Opposition will form weak government that can easily manipulated by LGBT to legalize Poke Ass Policy.(PAP)

    Facts 1: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=450158922272464
    Facts 2: https://formosapride.com/

    Taiwan DPP government is so proud of legalize Poke Ass Policy (PAP) in public that even DPP MPs celebrate with them.

    The DPP MP said: Human right means able to poke backside freely and publicly.

    Dear Singaporeans, if you vote in opposition, opposition will legalize backside poking aka Poke Ass Policy (PAP).

    Do you want PAP for your children ?

    GE2020.PAP.Guarantee.Win.All
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster.
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • So lucky:

    Also Kenna Dengue:
    A month ago .. on a Saturday night I felt I had fever .. The next day I went straight to X General Hospital .. before leaving I told Wife I was prepared to be hospitalised maybe at least a week .. and that she may also get quarantine order .. Long wait expected when arriving A&E .. blood sample taken .. Finally I was given some Panadol and discharged .. that’s it! .. My condition just fever: more than +38C, no coughing, no sore throat, no sneezing … was told to go X Polyclinic for review if necessary .. two days later body temp still high, felt pain in whole body, some rashes on part of body .. The following Tuesday I went to X polyclinic .. again blood sample taken , thru nose DNA taken .. finally C19 was eliminated, Dengue confirmed .. Again, Panadol given .. Finally after 8~9 days I fully recovered .. Later I came to learn .. some folks take much longer time to recover …

    You so lucky. “Some” cases plenty of blood transfusions. Maybe you should donate your blood as antibodies or maybe you and Andes share similar genealogy or DNA

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  • same old rubbish again:

    Spore need political stability:
    Singaporeans are not suckers. They are very wise. They understand what is political stability.
    If there is political risk and policies risk, investors will not invest and there will be less opportunities or jobs for us.
    Nothing comes naturally. Jobs and opportunities have to be created.
    One bad policy can send investors fleeing enough to make us jobless.
    If the prosperity today we are enjoying is due to our strategic location and is a necessity for investors to be here, then whoever is running Singapore doesn’t matter.
    Policies and credibility in the government is important to our success.
    One simple example,
    We keep scolding our government for making us Pay and Pay. Those who don’t understand the necessity to save for raining days will always criticise them.
    Now in this storm we are facing, we understand the importance of our savings. Without our reserves, where are we to borrow the $63 billion to help Singaporeans and businesses?

    So once the confidence is lost and stability is gone, it can send the investors fleeing and it will be disastrous for us.
    Where can we look for jobs?

    Propaganda in a different form. You are not using your signature PAP guarantee win moniker? Please also upgrade your propaganda techniques. This is old rehash stuff from the LKY era, holds no power here.

    On a serious note, please refute all of the critics’ analysis regarding $$ aspect of Singapore, where the supposed billions you say is hard to get is really paltry when analyzed in comparison against the national documents. You can start with Kenneth Jeyaretnam’s analysis, there is plenty of material.

    If you can’t refute or even contest that, then you should understand that whatever you believe or try to propagate is gonna be like dust in the wind, and no one will believe you.

    If you are gonna use the layman’s understanding of “saving for a rainy day” and not understand the actual finances of the country, then please go study the finances (a blackhole for one) of the country before making a comment.

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  • Bloated cabinet:

    Creations Of Pinky:
    Pinky creates his own nation. He wants the public to open their ears and eyes but shut their brains and mouths. Anybody going against will be made a bankrupt or end up in jail. That’s why we do not have any inventions, innovations or any creative ideas. All these supposed to be done by Pinky.

    Even Ministers cannot open their mouths because if they do so they will have to sacrifice their million dollars salary.

    But Pinky is not able to produce results and Singapore is a gone case

    The only solution now is to Vote Out The PAP for the sake of our children and grand children.

    In fact, at least a dozen of these useless MFcukers can easily be thrown out without making an iota of difference to us and the economy.

    Top of the list includes JT, bug bunny chan, son of a Gan, ugly nose disGrace, OYK and bala.

    Most importantly, it will save taxpayers millions yearly and channel the money to needy families.

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  • Top Money for Top Talents:DLLM:

    @GE2020.PAP.Guarantee.Win.All

    Dear PIMP,
    Yes, if you vote PAP Singapore will collapse.

    Opposition will form strong government that legalise LGBT to poke PIMP PAP.Guarantee.Win.All’s back side.

    Taiwan DPP government is so humble of legalize LGBT in public that even DPP MPs celebrate with them.

    The DPP MP said: Human right means able to poke PIMP PAP.Guarantee.Win.All’s back side freely and publicly.

    Dear Singaporeans, if you vote in opposition, opposition will legalize backside poking at PIMP PAP.Guarantee.Win.All

    Do you want to poke PIMP PAP.Guarantee.Win.All?

    GE2020.PAP.Guarantee.LOSE.All
    Majullah $SDP$ $PSP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be paid well, Telax, Work Less.
    Workers must not accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • Spore need political stability:

    @same old rubbish again
    Propaganda in a different form. You are not using your signature PAP guarantee win moniker? Please also upgrade your propaganda techniques. This is old rehash stuff from the LKY era, holds no power here.
    ———————————————-
    Propaganda in different form??
    What Moniker????
    Please also upgrade your propaganda techniques. This old rehash stuff from the LKY era hold no power now.
    ————————–
    Perhaps you don’t have an idea of what is joblessness or what it feels like to be dead poor.
    Real joblessness is when you can’t find employers and there are very few businesses around, which meant no jobs.
    Being dead poor is when you can’t afford even your 3 basic meals.
    I reiterated that what we are today didn’t come by chance.
    It was only because we have a capable government with a very strong will to make this place work and a nation of very wise voters who understand the importance of political stability and treasure political stability by voting for the same government.

    You just imagine that if one day we fail, where can we find jobs?
    In our neighbouring countries? Will there jobs for us?
    Can we get the income we are earning now?
    Are we welcomed there?

    Treasure what we have and help make this place work.
    Don’t take it for granted that what we are today came naturally.
    We need to put in a tremendous amount of effort and our very wise citizens to continue supporting what we have achieved.

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  • Spore need political stability:

    @same old rubbish again
    On a serious note, please refute all of the critics’ analysis regarding $$ aspect of Singapore, where the supposed billions you say is hard to get is really paltry when analyzed in comparison against the national documents. You can start with Kenneth Jeyaretnam’s analysis, there is plenty of material.
    If you can’t refute or even contest that, then you should understand that whatever you believe or try to propagate is gonna be like dust in the wind, and no one will believe you.
    If you are gonna use the layman’s understanding of “saving for a rainy day” and not understand the actual finances of the country, then please go study the finances (a blackhole for one) of the country before making a comment.
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    MAS manages $401 billion of our reserves.
    Temasek manages $313 billion.
    GIC, assuming they manage USD 100 billion (conservative estimation should be way higher).
    This excludes other reserves such as land reserves.
    This is the official figures.

    Did you know ringgit and our dollar used to be on parity? As of today,
    1 sgd to 1.09 aud,
    1 sgd to 1.17 nzd,
    and many other currencies too Long to lists. Now it’s the other way round.
    This system has fed millions of people for the last half a century.
    If we don’t trust this system, then who are we to trust?
    Tom, Dick or Harry??

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  • uselesstankinl:

    Already, with POFMA !!!

    WAITING FOR WHAT’S NEXT ??

    COVID19 HAS SHOWN, PAP HAD COLLAPSED !!!

    SPENDUNG TAXPAYERS MONEY LIKE NO TOMORROW SAVING WHO, WHAT, GLC’S, STAT BOARDS, CRONIES , PUPPETS..

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  • Homeless Cat:

    Top Money for Top Talents:
    Dear Simon,
    Yes, if you vote out PAP Singapore will collapse.

    Opposition will form weak government that can easily manipulated by LGBT to legalize Poke Ass Policy.(PAP)

    Facts 1: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=450158922272464
    Facts 2: https://formosapride.com/

    Taiwan DPP government is so proud of legalize Poke Ass Policy (PAP) in public that even DPP MPs celebrate with them.

    The DPP MP said: Human right means able to poke backside freely and publicly.

    Dear Singaporeans, if you vote in opposition, opposition will legalize backside poking aka Poke Ass Policy (PAP).

    Do you want PAP for your children ?

    GE2020.PAP.Guarantee.Win.All
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster.
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

    PAP = Pillage And Plunder…?

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  • oxygen:

    @ Spore need political stability.

    GOTCHA, YOU ARE THE SAME @ Wise Singaporeans moniker or the same PAPpy IB mindset in another TRE thread.

    Spore need political stability: MAS manages $401 billion of our reserves.
    Temasek manages $313 billion.
    GIC, assuming they manage USD 100 billion (conservative estimation should be way higher).

    Here it is

    Wise Singaporeans: MAS manages $401 billion of our reserves.
    Temasek manages $313 billion.
    GIC, assuming that they manage USD 100 billion, which is around $142 billion (conservative estimation should be way higher).
    Remember that excludes land reserves.

    PM’s Labour Day Speech

    http://www.tremeritus.net/2020/05/03/pms-labour-day-speech/

    In this thread, you were shredded into decimation of CPF, property law, financial accounting application.

    You obviously clueless of what you are barking and your only recourse is to abandon the debating floor and resorting to the most ardent but facile motherhood sychophantic fart of fiction.

    Now in this thread, you supply another different moniker ( @ Spore needs political stability) to hide your identity, giving you another pretentious voice of credibility urging to deceive TRE readers.

    WHEN YOU HAVE TO CONCEAL YOUR IDENTITY BEHIND MULTIPLE MONIKERS, IT MEANS YOU GOT SOMETHING TO HIDE OF TRUTHFUL ACCOUNTING.

    You have sold your credibility short as a PAPpypolitics’s IB.

    SHAME SHAME SHAME.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Mayday! Mayday!:

    Simon Lim’s (this) article heading is a MISNOMER imho – It should read either.

    Singapore collapsing with PAP or

    No government is indispensable!

    Mayday! Mayday!: I would rather be in a safe sampan than a leaking yatch! Unfortunately, majority of Singaporeans are a gutless bunch. They have been lead by the nose all these years and can no longer think for themselves. They are not even courageous enough to vote in a good number of opposition members to provide a meaningful “check and balance” in parliament. So how can you expect the 69.9% Singaporeans to displace the incumbent Gahmen? The stark difference in performance and commitment between the old leaders and the current bunch is so evident and yet this group of 69.9% Singaporeans have eyes but don’t want to see; have ears but don’t want to hear; can VTO but too afraid to change.

    No government is indispensable!

    Mayday! Mayday!: Mayday! Mayday!:

    Why?

    VERY SIMPLE.

    PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics is sucked and trapped in by exactly the same “CATERPILLAR MENTALITY” of do-nothing inactivism in the guise of what a SHIFTY CHANGING MONIKER @ Spore needs political stability urging to keep calm and maintaining the status quo (of actually doing next to nothing of economic restructuring).

    Past Tense warned us in 2010 this – we grew the last 5 years solely by importing foreign labour.

    In simple layman language, since 2005, WE ACHIEVE NOTHING OF ENDOGENOUS DOMESTIC ECONOMIC PROGRESS. It is flawed economy, Trade Minister Lim Hng Kiang warned in 2014 that we can’t be a First World economy (pretentiously that is) paying Third World wages (relying on cheap foreign lab).

    PAST TENSE AMD LIM HK WARNED US WE ARE A FAKE ECONOMY running up the hill of false trajectory UNSUSTAINABILITY waiting for an accident to happen (pandemic???) and sudden death collapse.

    From 1990, GCT promised us Swiss Standard of Living – in one world – GLOBALISATION and his fantasized elevation to economic ebullience and truly First World economic status/achievement.

    POPPYCOCK!!

    To get to GCT’s folly of fantasy dreamland, WE, IMHO, needs to sow, germinate and grow Singapore-originated MNC/GLCs and populate the world with such powerhouse economic engines.

    In 30 years of globalisation change, WE SCORED NOTHING on this empty boast. All our surviving GLCs, were born pre-1990.

    WE SCORE ZERO of indigenous economic engines at a time WHEN GLOBALISATION OPENS THE DOOR TO WEALTH CULTIVATION AND RICHES.

    3G is obsessed with the INSANITY PURSUIT of the Population White Paper. They are NOT ASSET BUILDERS – too busy “fixing” the opposition.

    4G were found fumbling fools, crisis manage them. VTO.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Spore need political stability

    Aka @ Wise Singaporeans? OI OI OI, you got $600 temporary relief from PAPpypolitics out of $63 BILLION, what percentage is that in contrast? My calculator suggests it is 0.000000… … …1%

    If the CPF is left in your hands (for retirees), how many past working members has only $600 in their account IF THAT MONEY IS EVER OURS.

    Read my comments to you @ Wise Singaporeans, on animus possidendi and animus domini in this thread as to who actually owns the CPF locked-up money.

    PM’s Labour Day Speech

    http://www.tremeritus.net/2020/05/03/pms-labour-day-speech/

    LET ME PUT IT IN SIMPLE LAYMAN TERMS BEYOND LAW AND FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING – what cannot be seen, touch and control of use IS NOT YOUR MONEY.

    That is why CPF is NOT our savings in distress (refused of allowing temporary limited withdrawal of savings by PAPpy) available to relief rescue in time of distress and danger.

    The $600 will have to be “repaid” by other backdoor ways of taxes, charges, medical healthcare billings, parking fees, ERP etc etc and MAYBE EVEN MORE DELAY IN CPF RETIREMENT SUM TO BEYOND 85 years of age, if some lucky ones do not got invited to the involuntarily place of permanent resting.

    Spore need political stability: Now in this storm we are facing, we understand the importance of our savings. Without our reserves, where are we to borrow the $63 billion to help Singaporeans and businesses?

    SO PLEASE DON’T TRY HERE TO DELUDE LITTLE PEASANT CHILDREN, thanks!!

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  • same old rubbish again:

    @Spore need political stability

    Your assertions are exactly the same as an older post some months back. You used the same jobless and our supposed currency superiority concept to push your points, and implicitly saying that PAP is the way to go, when your logical fallacies has been debunked such that you went quiet after attempting to defend it with spectacular failure (i only vaguely remember someone displaying the OZ historical currency charts and some calling your examples as misleading/cherry picking to debunk you).

    Don’t deviate from my start point to contest KJ’s observation and bring up some superficial and unverifiable figures from the masak masak co of MAS, GIC and Temasek, all these are propped up entities with their hands in the entire Singapore economy cookie jar. If they don’t even have billions despite their monopoly, that would have been really alarming.

    Start by defending that $63 billion is a lot of money in against the context of the supposed trillion dollar government’s reserve. If you can do that, I will listen and be more open. Else, it is the same old rubbish again.

    I await your further enlightening.

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  • NKorean Kim:

    @–Spore need political stability:
    ”I come back very impressed’: Vivian Balakrishnan on trip to North Korea”—09 Jun 2018 CNA
    ”Dr Balakrishnan added, when asked if Singapore paid for the North Korean contingent’s hotel stay at The St Regis Singapore.
    He added that the expenditure forms part of the $20 million that Singapore is spending on the summit in all.’—Jun 11, 2018, ST

    –You should consider migrating to North Korea.
    –The last I checked, they are the most politically stable country.

    —In fact Papigs love NKoreans and their politics; hence can employ tons of papig IB to troll and brainwash thinking Singaporeans.
    —You may want to write in to ST Forum where brainless zombies get their daily fix.
    ‘“Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” ””

    ― Frederick Douglass

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  • Spore need political stability:

    @same old rubbish again
    Your assertions are exactly the same as an older post some months back. You used the same jobless and our supposed currency superiority concept to push your points, and implicitly saying that PAP is the way to go, when your logical fallacies has been debunked such that you went quiet after attempting to defend it with spectacular failure (i only vaguely remember someone displaying the OZ historical currency charts and some calling your examples as misleading/cherry picking to debunk you).

    Start by defending that $63 billion is a lot of money in against the context of the supposed trillion dollar government’s reserve. If you can do that, I will listen and be more open. Else, it is the same old rubbish again.
    I await your further enlightening.
    ———————————————————————
    Hahaha
    Please don’t quote MONTHS ago thread. I don’t keep a record and neither I can remember any of them. Are you sure is me, or retrieve the thread to refresh my memory?
    Have your opinion and I have my perception. As I have gone through the hard times and understand how poverty is like. That is why I like to share here especially the young.

    As I keep stressing that everything here is created. Nothing comes naturally. If It is because we have a strategic location and every business is a necessity to be here then there is nothing to worries.

    To a layman $63 billion is super huge to a government who has trillion in their reserves, $63 billion is a small amount.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Spore need political stability

    DUMB LOGIC & unsubstantiated suppositions below.

    Spore need political stability: To a layman $63 billion is super huge to a government who has trillion in their reserves, $63 billion is a small amount.

    Where is the trillion and, if the imagery is there, where did all that come from.?

    PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics couldn’t and WOULD NOT give a little welfare to the most desperate needy poor. That is why “hard times” you decried for the poor will never change. It is all OBFUSCATION, WEASEL WORDS (like sia suay, Xo Chai Tow Kuay, Kuei Lapis politics etc etc) and UNANSWERED QUESTIONS on POFMA needed clarifications of what is “true”. And you spoke of PAPpys as though they know what they are doing, divine of morals care (they care more about election date than containing the dorm pandemic outbreak time bomb etc). They tell peasants mask not needed, then reversed 180 degrees with mandatory compliance order in truthful falsity of sufficient inadequate mask ( revealing they don’t know what they are doing) and no more catcalls of “hara-kiri” for alleged incompetence from silly cow and instead gone DIAM DIAM DIAM (they no longer pretend they are in failed and clueless leadership etc) comedy.

    And you think we should vote for them to secure risks from “poverty/starvation”?

    How more dumb is your logic to think of this fact. Singtel (& GLCs) was incubated out of seed fundings from our CPF/national reserves accumulated, then sold via IPO to peasants at $1.83 per share, TH share of equity stake is FOC. Now PAPpyolitics/PAPpynomics locked up CPF (not our money is the message I got from this). PAPpy use your money to seed fund GLCs, sold the equity to peasants for cash, and locked up your CPF seed capital come 55. It is PAPpy win all the way and default of CPF return which you (aka Wise Singaporeans in another TRE thread??? )claims belong to peasants.

    It is PAPpy “Pao Chiak” (no risks sure win bet) and “Chiak Kow Liao” (greed to infinity). And you think PAPpy care about your starvation? Peasants paid tax when they were employed and earning, they paid for expressways, Changi Airport, some never use these. PAPpypolitics care only for their own aristocratic few and their power control in that furtherance. The poor? U die your business.

    The perverse of your logic is here. PAPpypolitics is NOT A SEPARATE ENTITY, they are part of us – they have no money without our tax paid. So spending $63 billion IS SPENDING OUR MONEY, TAKING MONEY FROM LEFT POCKET AND PUT IN THE RIGHT POCKET. We paid for charity to help the poor and ourselves struck down by the pandemic lock down.

    FOR THIS TRANSFER DECEPTION, PAPpy wants us to vote for them.

    YOU IDIOT of the highest order.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Spore need political stability

    DUMB LOGIC & unsubstantiated suppositions below.

    Spore need political stability: To a layman $63 billion is super huge to a government who has trillion in their reserves, $63 billion is a small amount.

    Where is the trillion and, if the imagery is there, where did all that come from.?

    PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics couldn’t and WOULD NOT give a little welfare to the most desperate needy poor. That is why “hard times” you decried for the poor will never change. It is all OBFUSCATION, WEASEL WORDS (like sia suay, Xo Chai Tow Kuay, Kuei Lapis politics etc etc) and UNANSWERED QUESTIONS on POFMA needed clarifications of what is “true”. And you spoke of PAPpys as though they know what they are doing, divine of morals care (they care more about election date than containing the dorm pandemic outbreak time bomb etc). They tell peasants mask not needed, then reversed 180 degrees with mandatory compliance order in truthful falsity of sufficient inadequate mask ( revealing they don’t know what they are doing) and no more catcalls of “hara-kiri” for alleged incompetence from silly cow and instead gone DIAM DIAM DIAM (they no longer pretend they are in failed and clueless leadership etc) comedy.

    And you think we should vote for them to secure risks from “poverty/starvation”?

    How more dumb is your logic to think of this fact. Singtel (& GLCs) was incubated out of seed fundings from our CPF/national reserves accumulated, then sold via IPO to peasants at $1.83 per share, TH share of equity stake is FOC. Now PAPpyolitics/PAPpynomics locked up CPF (not our money is the message I got from this). PAPpy use your money to seed fund GLCs, sold the equity to peasants for cash, and locked up your CPF seed capital come 55. It is PAPpy win all the way and default of CPF return which you (aka Wise Singaporeans in another TRE thread??? )claims belong to peasants.

    It is PAPpy “Pao Chiak” (no risks sure win bet) and “Chiak Kow Liao” (greed to infinity). And you think PAPpy care about your starvation? Peasants paid tax when they were employed and earning, they paid for expressways, Changi Airport, some never use these. PAPpypolitics care only for their own aristocratic few and their power control in that furtherance. The poor? U die your business.

    The perverse of your logic is here. PAPpypolitics is NOT A SEPARATE ENTITY, they are part of us – they have no money without our tax paid. So spending $63 billion IS SPENDING OUR MONEY, TAKING MONEY FROM LEFT POCKET AND PUT IN THE RIGHT POCKET. We paid for charity to help the poor and ourselves struck down by the pandemic lock down.

    FOR THIS TRANSFER DECEPTION, PAPpy wants us to vote for them.

    YOU IDIOT of the highest order.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Spore need political stability.

    THIS MONIKER IS SELF-REVEALING of caterpillar mentality, kiasu of transparency and accountability. Crisis comes, the political tortoises will bury their heads in the sand of no action i.e. INACTIVISM of do-nothing options. Once the storm past, braggart to the world this ownself-praise-ownself – see, we “saved” you from disaster – just like cockroaches, these insects are resilient, they come out only in the dark and feeds on crumbs as long as the dumb house owners are all asleep. Immediately after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bomb attack, the Japanese survivors and military were shocked to find swarms of cockroaches rampaging through the debris, all other living species decimated.

    Spore need political stability: As I have gone through the hard times and understand how poverty is like.

    Me too, maybe worst. Caught deep underwater after burnt by the Asian currency crisis and Clob lock- up by Mahathir. Wake-up every morning staring at the ceiling, wondering where my next $1 breakfast going to come from. Gone deeper into debt to find a recovery route.

    Spore need political stability: That is why I like to share here especially the young.

    ME TOO, THAT IS WHY I ALSO WANT TO SHARE WITH THE YOUNG – LOOK AFTER YOURSELF, AND IN DANGER, TRUST NO GOVT. They are not father Christmas, LEE-jiapore got no welfare for the fallen risks taker. PAPpy left CLOB SHREHOLDERS to fend themselves from Mahathir in bad times. In good times, they touted CLOB is their brightest ideas of over-the-counter share trading of Malaysian stocks in their wisdom of “beggar-thy-neighbour” DUMB ECONOMICS. Malaysia hit back, Sinkies like me taken hostage, PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics looks the other way.

    The young got to learn that PAPpypolitics is part of the same society as peasants. Whatever PAPpy gave of “election lolly” is eye delusion and brain-farking of dumb voters. It is taking your money and giving it back to you AND IN THAT MAGIC SHOW con your vote to enrich themselves and prolong their own hegemony and political longevity.

    When politics come kissing your butt, WATCH OUT (is what I want to share with the young)!

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  • Spore need political stability:

    @Spore need political stability

    Yea it is you alright, your writing style, your points and your examples are in essence the same. Why can’t I quote threads from months ago when it is you that is asserting the same thing with lousy logic and substantiation. Too uniquely you to not remember, and your silence from not answering the readers’ questions is too deafening to forget.

    If you are really an “Old Man”, then I suggest you refrain from commenting and restricting the brain harm to yourself. Just enjoy whatever time you have left and not “contribute” to society in any further way. Being in a position of “Seniority” doesn’t give you immediate authority and wisdom in what is right or trustworthy. They still have to stand the test of criticism, and yours failed horribly.

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  • Spore need political stability:

    @same old rubbish
    Spore need political stability:
    May 17, 2020 at 9:41 pm (Quote)
    @Spore need political stability
    Yea it is you alright, your writing style, your points and your examples are in essence the same. Why can’t I quote threads from months ago when it is you that is asserting the same thing with lousy logic and substantiation. Too uniquely you to not remember, and your silence from not answering the readers’ questions is too deafening to forget.
    If you are really an “Old Man”, then I suggest you refrain from commenting and restricting the brain harm to yourself. Just enjoy whatever time you have left and not “contribute” to society in any further way. Being in a position of “Seniority” doesn’t give you immediate authority and wisdom in what is right or trustworthy. They still have to stand the test of criticism, and yours failed horribly
    ———————————————————
    We are in the opposing camps. If my points are lousy and is illogical and I fail horribly.
    Why you care to comment ?
    You should be gloating for my mistakes or my irrelevant comment.
    Hehe

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  • oxygen:

    @ same old rubbish again:

    SPOT ON, mate. @ Spore needs political stability aka @Wise Singaporeans in another TRE tread is just spewing the same facile unthinking suppositions that can’t measure up to scrutiny – even if ludicrous of logic and evidence.

    GLAD THAT YOU NOTICED AND SHARED with all readers.

    same old rubbish again: same old rubbish again:

    Spore need political stability: @Spore need political stability

    Yea it is you alright, your writing style, your points and your examples are in essence the same. Why can’t I quote threads from months ago when it is you that is asserting the same thing with lousy logic and substantiation. Too uniquely you to not remember, and your silence from not answering the readers’ questions is too deafening to forget.

    If you are really an “Old Man”, then I suggest you refrain from commenting and restricting the brain harm to yourself. Just enjoy whatever time you have left and not “contribute” to society in any further way. Being in a position of “Seniority” doesn’t give you immediate authority and wisdom in what is right or trustworthy. They still have to stand the test of criticism, and yours failed horribly.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Same old rubbish again

    @ Spore need political stability aka @ Wise Singaporeans like other PAPpy clones are all sucked up in the same ideologue of PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics’s perpetual WINDY HAPPY CONTRADICTIONS.

    They thrive by the mantra of

    - obfuscation
    - weasal words
    - unanswered questions.
    - TTBL (threats, theatrics, bluff and lies)

    HOW CAN THE COUNTRY THRIVES LIKE THAT?

    I am disillusioned.

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  • pity...:

    @Spore need political stability

    We ar”e in the opposing camps. If my points are lousy and is illogical and I fail horribly.
    Why you care to comment ?
    You should be gloating for my mistakes or my irrelevant comment.
    Hehe”

    The paragraph above merely reflects who you are in response to information countering yours, and reveals your intentions to push a narrative (for whatever reason). I don’t get off from people’s mistakes, but I definitely do not want to make a mistake of believing crap, or worse, be a mistake due to my lazy thinking.

    For me, I read to gather the best available, criticism tested, information on topics I find important, and just wish to navigate and understand the complex world better.

    More importantly however, during readings in TR Emeritus, I will always remember two things:

    1. That successful propaganda stems from its seductive memorability and personal relatedness, incessant repetitiveness and emotional appeal. It is like a recalling a brand, its slogan, and its attributed traits, even though it may not be true. It appeals to the shortcuts of the human brain decision making techniques designed for wildlife survival back in the grassland days, but in the informational heavy and time lacking context, it only benefits the propaganda pushers.

    2. That there is a national narrative the powers-to-be wish to push to maintain their power and control. In other words, they want to control/influence what you think, believe, know and read.

    So, I am merely doing my small part to just call out logical inconsistency and fallacies out, even if I am unable to rebut it very well like many of the readers here.

    That way, some readers will at least stop to wonder why (THIS IS KEY), and the more serious and well-versed readers of the world will step in to correct the narrative if the propaganda/belief is too dangerous to be left alone. Then, there will, hopefully, be one less sheep, and one more awakened thinking person.

    So far this place has been an interesting read, with counter arguments left and right to bring us closer to the best truth available (and to see who is sprouting nonsense, and what form it is in currently). One will need to think, what on earth is this piece of information trying to say (and more importantly, not say).

    Well, now I have explain my piece, I am sure I will see you somewhere down the threads in your various alias. Let’s see what you will come up with next time. To the readers and pieces that have been contributing a lot, please continuing doing. You have at least one appreciative reader here.

    Adios OLD MAN!

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