Lawrence Wong has become synonymous with the incompetence of the so called 4G leaders in handling the greatest crisis of our times

Those of you who watched Lawrence Wong’s address tonight will agree with me that it was again, like Lee Hsien Loong’s 2 days ago, nothing more than a campaign speech.

It was a speech replete with motherhood statements, and offered absolutely nothing new from what Singaporeans did not already know. In the early stages of Covid, many were praising Lawrence Wong’s presentation skills and saying that he ought to be in line to be DPM. On tonight’s performance, you have to agree with me that such praise is highly misplaced! There was not an iota of statesmanship or vision in that address.

It was an address that obviously benefitted from hindsight, something which Lawrence Wong bemoaned he did not have the benefit of, when the explosion in the foreign workers’ dormitories happened!

He spoke about how social distancing, work from home and the wearing of masks had greatly improved the situation but why didn’t he advocate all those things in early February when People’s Voice was already saying that they must be implemented!? Once again he was mouthing platitudes with the benefit of hindsight!

Lawrence Wong is the face of the Taskforce that will go down in history as the most dismal taskforce ever set up to handle a crisis. Thousands of businesses which have closed as well as many hundreds of thousands of Singaporeans who have been financially crippled because of the incompetence of these 11 PAP Ministers who made up the Taskforce will surely agree with this statement. Lawrence Wong has become synonymous with the incompetence of the so called 4G leaders in handling the greatest crisis of our times.

 

Lim Tean

Peoples’ Voice Party

 

 

 

 

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79 Responses to “Lawrence Wong has become synonymous with the incompetence of the so called 4G leaders in handling the greatest crisis of our times”

  • C wong:

    This bast**d thinks he is lky calibre look at the brash condescending way he talks like he knows best. Won’t listen to advice type Mr know all. With such delusional leadership we are done for. Law Wong is a vvvvvvvvvvv vvv arrogant person from one encounter I had with him. At MPS. NOT SYMPATHETIC AT ALL . you die ur business feeling you get from him . Will nv forget. Even if he does gd job which he is not I won’t vote him.

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  • C wong:

    Lim tean absolutely spot on analysis of this m fker

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  • trublu:

    Lawrence Wong ia just another court-jester,a joker much like CHARLIE CHAPLAIN CHAN AH SING OR YAKKY MILKMAID JOJO.

    THEY ARE WHAT WE CALL *ECHO-SOUNDERS*, BUT EXPENSIVE one$!

    There is but ONE EVIL-DOER,A SINgle WRONG-DOER N YOU ALL KNOW WHO.

    THARMAN BASICALLY SIDE-LINED N PAUD HANDSOMELY for a few side-shows now & then.

    Teo Chee Hean is just a more SENIOR echo-sounder but a lousy one as he cant echo as well as MILKMAID JO OR SWANKY LAWRENCE BOY.

    WHAT DO LAWRENCE TRULY KNOW?

    TALK COCK,SING SONG…like the rest.

    Enuf of CIRCUS.
    WHEN IS IT GETTING OUT OF TOWN?

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  • lousy performances:

    the circus no lt only is in town..but its performance is disappointing.
    less and less customers.
    might have to close down eventually.
    we want our money back

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  • WOWO:

    Mr Wong, who is the co-chair of the Government’s multi-ministry COVID-19 taskforce, explained that the Government is taking other precautions like stepping up cleaning, making masks mandatory and asking commuters not to talk on trains since it will be difficult to maintain physical distance on public transport.

    Asserting that current precautions minimise the risk of virus transmission on trains, the ruling party politician went on to qualify public transport journeys as “transient risks” for COVID-19 since they are generally not long.
    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/singapore/pap-minister-calls-crowded-mrts-%e2%80%9ctransient-risks%e2%80%9d-when-asked-about-contradictory-covid-rules/ar-BB15gTU0

    LW TRYING TO DEFEND THE CONTRADICTORY COVID RULE ON SAFE DISTANCING. HE WAS SAYING BECAUSE OF CROWDING IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO PRACTISE SAFE DISTANCING IN PUBLIC TRANSPORT.

    HE SAID IT IS A “TRANSIENT RISK” COMPARED TO SOCIAL GATHERING A “HIGHER RISK” WHICH IS REALLY NONSENSICAL! THEN HOW ABOUT PRACTISE SAFETY DISTANCING AT MINIMARTS IS HIGH RISK OR MODERATE RISK WHERE THE TIME SPENT IS NOT LONG WHICH MAKES IT TRANSIENT RISK! SO NO NEED TO HAVE SAFE DISTANCING LAH! REALLY CONTRADICTORY!

    IN ARMY LINGO WE SAY WOWO!

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  • Dun Bluff Mi U Tink I 2pid?:

    Sometimes I wonder why some people are pushing these guys to be the Leeders of Tomorrow.. LW, Keechiu, Oyk, Sex-in-small-spaces, Goldfish etc.. Obviously these guys have proven that they cannot make it! So they must go!

    Why can’t we find the Tsai Ing-wen, the Jacinda Ardern, etc to lead SG despite us paying million dollar salaries to our current bunch of useless pappies? I thought Woody’s wife said “You pay peanuts you get monkeys”? Why are there so many monkeys in the parleement despite paying more than peanuts ($600k)? Does it mean that the Tsai Ing-wen, the Jacinda Ardern & the real leaders who have solved their country’s covid problem are lesser than monkeys?

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  • Do more please:

    Do more for those badly affected by the Virus and CB.
    Especially those on no pay or lost their jobs since Jan 2020.Many are suffering.Some case only received $40 voucher support after 5 months of no pay.
    The help given to many is pathetic…either non eligible because of too many restriction or support is given too little and too late to help…
    Comcare need to buck up….too bureaucratic and inefficient.

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  • PAPVID-20:

    No matter how much LW wanted to tell PM earlier that people should wear masks, or people should work from home, or people should practice social distancing, he’ll hesitate when he thinks of his million-dollar salary. Even if he wants to do it, his wife would have stopped him.

    No matter how much LW wanted to change his script when he went on TV, to say something different from what PM wanted, he’ll hesitate when he thinks of his million-dollar salary. Even if he wants to do it, his wife would have stopped him.

    Next week….

    No matter how much Tharman wanted tell everybody on TV that he would very much want to be take over as the next PM, he’ll hesitate when he thinks of his million-dollar salary. Even if he wants to do it, his wife would have stopped him.

    In conclusion, no matter 3G or 4G, any PAPpy will become ball-less jiak liao bee because of the million-dollar salary.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    Give them credit la.
    Our fatality rate is one of the lowest, less than one percent and no serious community spread.
    The dormitory cases are unfortunately due to the silent spread.
    As this is a new virus, nobody knew the nature of the virus and how it spreads at the beginning. Around the world there are epidemiologists. If these virus experts could understand how this virus is spreading at the beginning, there will be a uniform approach to tackle the virus.
    But even until now the WHO also cannot be certain about the virus. One day say that asymptomatic spread is very rare, the next day retract the statement.

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  • Realistically:

    @ Lim Tean

    >>He spoke about how social distancing, work from home and the wearing of masks had greatly improved the situation but why didn’t he advocate all those things in early February when People’s Voice was already saying that they must be implemented!?<<

    You mind posting the links to what U/Your party allegedly said about the wearing of masks etc……?

    All I remember U saying without much arguments is to close the schools.

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  • Cronyism is Societal Virus:

    Never have so many (sheeples) been subjugated by so few (pappies) for so much (liabilities to us).

    ***

    “Never has a man who has become crooked been able to make others straight. Only when a man will not do some things (like cronyism with secret salaries) is he capable of doing great things (like catching viruses).”

    - Mencius the Sage

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  • Waste of time:

    Repeat. Recycle. Regurgitate.

    Lots of saliva spewed but nothing new came out!

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  • blueview:

    This is the guy who slapped us hard with the truth about HDB 99 leasehold turning to ZERO. He announce it in such a way that many Sporeans hearts just burned thinking about the hundreds of thousands of our hard earned money poured into our homes hoping that some day it will become a small family wealth for our future generations.

    This guy didn’t give a S**T when he carelessly threw those words about the lease decay and of course why should he care when he is earning zillions of dollars and living in fancy freehold properties.

    Sporeans please wake up – our home is a very real problem.

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  • Harder Truths:

    The Circus Clowns own the town.
    The show will go on and on and on…..

    Don’t worry – be happy. You have no choice.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Reported on CNA Website :Quote – “Doctor originally accused of rape is acquitted of all charges after Court of Appeal overturns convictions
    Wee Teong Boo
    General practitioner Wee Teong Boo allegedly raped the victim during a late-night consultation in 2015. (Photo: TODAY/Koh Mui Fong)
    By Lydia Lam
    10 Jun 2020 12:21PM
    (Updated: 10 Jun 2020 01:12PM)..

    SINGAPORE: A doctor accused of raping a patient five years ago in his Bedok clinic was acquitted of all charges against him on Wednesday (Jun 10), after the Court of Appeal agreed with the defence that convicting the man on sexual assault when he was tried for rape is “highly prejudicial”.

    Dr Wee Teong Boo, 69, was sentenced to 10 years’ jail in February last year after being found guilty of a charge of sexual assault by digital penetration and a second charge of outraging the patient’s modesty.

    He had originally been accused of raping a 23-year-old patient during a late-night consultation on Dec 30, 2015.

    In February last year, he was acquitted of the rape charge and found guilty of the lesser charges of sexual assault by penetration and outrage of modesty.

    On Wednesday, the Court of Appeal upheld the acquittal of the rape charge and overturned the convictions on the sexual assault and outrage of modesty charges.

    This was after both the defence and the prosecution appealed, with the prosecution asking the court to convict Dr Wee of the rape charge and affirm his conviction of the molest charge, and to increase his sentence if the sexual assault charge was upheld.

    The defence asked for the convictions of the sexual assault and outrage of modesty charges to be overturned, and for the court to affirm the acquittal of the rape charge.

    Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon, along with Judges of Appeal Steven Chong and Belinda Ang, said the medical evidence clearly established that Dr Wee did suffer from erectile dysfunction at the time of the alleged rape.

    The patient had claimed that she was raped during the consultation with Dr Wee.

    “We find it implausible that Dr Wee could have penetrated (the woman’s) vagina in the manner she described,” the judges said…. “Unquote.

    Response :This case has been sentenced and so there is no wrong to comment by law. Look at this, when the doctor is acquitted, the woman is definitely at fault. It cannot be both are not guilty, right? Why didn’t the chief judge arrest the public prosecutor to be charge to be send to jail if the public prosecutor failed to charge out this woman to be send to jail for fabrication wi**** lies? This is a “fake” rape/molest case as the doctor is not guilty by judge! Why the law is still shamelessly hiding this woman face/photo from public till today? Minor offence by Jolovan Wham also need police remarked on his Facebook. Shouldn’t the police put inside her Facebook a remark to show she fabricated serious rape/molest case on a doctor? The law need cane her too! Law by law, right?

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  • Think:

    You HDB flat will be returned to him FREE after you complete 99?

    How’s that oldcock……..have you turn yet or get up if something wrong……..virus you not yet get up or CAN’t get UP?

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  • 11 days after lockdowm:

    ”I spoke to Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern of New Zealand yesterday on the phone. New Zealand has implemented a stringent lock down. She told me that when they did this, it was only on Day 11 that they started to see new cases coming down. ”LHL 10th Apr.

    We locked down on 7th Apr—11 days later should be 18th Apr.
    It is now 11th Jun.
    Look at the numbers in the dorms.
    If the 500+ cases reported daily are NEW infections, something is very very very wrong!
    If they are old infections that happen to test positive, then this prolonged
    lock-down is unnecessary.
    Using HKong, Taiwan,NZ, SKorea as models for lockdown, we are failing miserably!
    Why in so many coutries, their lockdown work; ours do not???

    Importance is to save life:
    Give them credit la.
    Our fatality rate is one of the lowest, less than one percent and no serious community spread.
    The dormitory cases are unfortunately due to the silent spread.
    As this is a new virus, nobody knew the nature of the virus and how it spreads at the beginning. Around the world there are epidemiologists. If these virus experts could understand how this virus is spreading at the beginning, there will be a uniform approach to tackle the virus.
    But even until now the WHO also cannot be certain about the virus. One day say that asymptomatic spread is very rare, the next day retract the statement.

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  • Total Fail:

    —’Singapore resists calls for ban on Chinese travelers as 5th case confirmed’—-
    —-The government is holding off on a full ban of Chinese tourists entering the country despite an ongoing public petition that has gained more than 20,000 signatures. National Development Minister Lawrence Wong yesterday cautioned Singaporeans against “overreacting” or “turning xenophobic.”
    —–Jan 28th By Nurul Azliah Jan 28, 2020 Coconuts.
    –So when public petition from citizenry was put out in Jan 2020, we were labelled ‘xenophobic’.
    —–And we cannot even do a proper lock-down; when many successfully did.
    —–The Incompetent and The Arrogant let in the Fire-Starters, despite Petition, and are not able to put out the fire 65 days later ; do you need another 100 days????

    Importance is to save life:
    Give them credit la.
    Our fatality rate is one of the lowest, less than one percent and no serious community spread.
    The dormitory cases are unfortunately due to the silent spread.
    As this is a new virus, nobody knew the nature of the virus and how it spreads at the beginning. Around the world there are epidemiologists. If these virus experts could understand how this virus is spreading at the beginning, there will be a uniform approach to tackle the virus.
    But even until now the WHO also cannot be certain about the virus. One day say that asymptomatic spread is very rare, the next day retract the statement.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @11days after lockdown

    If you look at the Singaporean and PR infected cases, they are not high. Majority of the infected cases are from the dormitories. Our community spread is also not serious.
    The main problem comes from the dormitories. Why is it unfortunate? Because of the silent spread and very contagious .The workers have only mild symptoms or no symptoms but spread is fast that is were we miss .
    From our low fatality rate which is less than 1% and that as of today there are only 3 critical cases in ICU, it’s obvious that there’s appropriate action taken.

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  • Just my view:

    @ Realistically

    The same guy also said at initial stage of the pandemic that Singapore was ill prepared, no foresight and had not enough stock of masks etc.

    Seemed like he had foresight and knew how many masks needed to stock.

    It’s always easy to say, just say and not having to do it. Unlikely be proven wrong and likely always right.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Importance is to save life

    BEWARE OF EARNEST HEMINGWAY’s warning in ” The Sun Also Rises” when he spoke of “gradually, then suddenly” escalation.

    JT stumbled big time on exactly that failing in the dorm infection outbreak – INACTVISM OF DOING NOTHING, silence, THEN SUDDENLY EXPLOSIVE INFERNO of massive infection within now seemingly uncontainable.

    Importance is to save life: If you look at the Singaporean and PR infected cases, they are not high. Majority of the infected cases are from the dormitories. Our community spread is also not serious.
    The main problem comes from the dormitories. Why is it unfortunate? Because of the silent spread and very contagious .The workers have only mild symptoms or no symptoms but spread is fast that is were we miss .
    From our low fatality rate which is less than 1% and that as of today there are only 3 critical cases in ICU, it’s obvious that there’s appropriate action taken.

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  • No Spin Please:

    @Importance…
    —”Why is it unfortunate? Because of the silent spread and very contagious ”
    –No Spin Please, we are all thinking adults here.
    –The infectiousness of Covid here is no different from those in NZ, HK or the other tens of countries or so that did a successful lock-down.
    —Similarly the infectiousness in and outside the dorms are the same.
    Because of the very enhanced measures taken, esp the activation of SAF doctors to the dorms, the cases there should have been down drastically within 11 days; around 20th Apr.
    —Also NCID says after 11 days, patients are not infectious.
    ‘ 11days after lockdown ‘ is right.
    We are almost 59 days [70-11] from the day the dorm number should have been zero.
    The million dollar question is—Are the dorm cases new or old infected cases?
    If old, there was no need for lock-down.If new, something is very WRONG because it is still in the 300-500 plus range.
    THINK,THINk, THINK!
    —”’Covid-19 patients no longer infectious 11 days after getting sick, research shows”’[The paper was released on Saturday (May 23) by the National Centre for Infectious Diseases (NCID) and the Academy of Medicine's Chapter of Infectious Disease Physicians.]May 23, 2020 ST

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  • CB more damage:

    Actually the prolong CB cause more damage than the Virus.
    Now many companies has to close down and many jobs lost or with much reduce pay now.
    Many are suffering and some support given to Citizen is so little and so late that it is meaningless and grossly inadequate to survive.
    Just imagine some case only received $40 Voucher after many months of no pay.
    Many prefer to work than depend on the miserable handout that take so long to comes and with so many conditions and Criteria.They can’t work now because of the CB restriction.

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  • Git ERECTIONs?:

    Wow 18 cases today….IN THE COMMUNITY……..GOT ERECTIONs?

    Wow 18 cases today….IN THE COMMUNITY……..GOT ERECTIONs?

    Wow 18 cases today….IN THE COMMUNITY……..GOT ERECTIONs?

    Wow 18 cases today….IN THE COMMUNITY……..GOT ERECTIONs?

    Wow 18 cases today….IN THE COMMUNITY……..GOT ERECTIONs?

    Wow 18 cases today….IN THE COMMUNITY……..GOT ERECTIONs?

    Wow 18 cases today….IN THE COMMUNITY……..GOT ERECTIONs?

    Wow 18 cases today….IN THE COMMUNITY……..GOT ERECTIONs?

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  • Ahlim:

    Is the mighty covid that brought all gov including defence dept.to SHUT!
    1st time see.hope is LAST TIME!

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  • Realistically:

    Genuine oppos should call out the public addresses by the emperor without clothes; Lawrence Wong and now Teo Chee Hean as just drivel…………..not worthy of a Minister, let alone key Ministers………what a waste of public money paying their salaries, bonuses etx.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @No spin please

    Yes, virus is the same everywhere but different approach to tackle the virus will get different results.
    Take Sweden for example no lockdown the outcome is high fatalities rate.

    When you look at our fatalities rate is less then one percent despite almost 4 hundred thousand cases and until today only 2 patients are in ICU.Since almost all the cases are very mild,we can take it as common cold.Stop the testing and immediately there will be no case to report.
    If you look at the world number of testing per million.Singapore is 8 highest in the world.
    Taiwan & HK not even in the top 30 countries.
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104645/covid19-testing-rate-select-countries-worldwide/

    So as a responsible country and we have a responsible government who treasure our citizens and our guest workers life that’s why we have to do through test to save life.

    Talking about lockdown,don’t be a “hindsight” expert.Few months ago do you know how the virus spread?
    There are epidemiologists around the world.At the beginning if they understand the nature of the virus and how it spread then the world will have a uniform approach to tackle the virus.Even until now the WHO is giving conflicting statements about the asymptomatic spread.
    So you know ? Unless you are GOD.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Importance is to save life:
    Give them credit la.
    Our fatality rate is one of the lowest, less than one percent and no serious community spread.
    The dormitory cases are unfortunately due to the silent spread.
    As this is a new virus, nobody knew the nature of the virus and how it spreads at the beginning. Around the world there are epidemiologists. If these virus experts could understand how this virus is spreading at the beginning, there will be a uniform approach to tackle the virus.
    But even until now the WHO also cannot be certain about the virus. One day say that asymptomatic spread is very rare, the next day retract the statement.

    This is just like when you reprimand your child for failing his test, scoring 47 out 100, and your child turns around and tell you “Give me credit lah! Many of my classmates scored lower than 30, some even zero!”

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Importance is to save life:
    @11days after lockdown

    If you look at the Singaporean and PR infected cases, they are not high. Majority of the infected cases are from the dormitories. Our community spread is also not serious.
    The main problem comes from the dormitories. Why is it unfortunate? Because of the silent spread and very contagious .The workers have only mild symptoms or no symptoms but spread is fast that is were we miss .
    From our low fatality rate which is less than 1% and that as of today there are only 3 critical cases in ICU, it’s obvious that there’s appropriate action taken.

    But in order to contain the dorm infections, how many billions of tax payers’ dollars have to be spent to pay the 300,000 dorm workers, no need to work and provide them with free meals 3 times a day? Because of this great dorm workers quarantine, how many companies have to stop work and how many closed down as a result? Like that not unfortunate?

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan
    But in order to contain the dorm infections, how many billions of tax payers’ dollars have to be spent to pay the 300,000 dorm workers, no need to work and provide them with free meals 3 times a day? Because of this great dorm workers quarantine, how many companies have to stop work and how many closed down as a result? Like that not unfortunate?
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    Government spent billions to contain the dormitories outbreak?
    Please give us the breakdown figures please.
    You see, until today there are over 4 hundred thousand over cases. Out of this our fatality rate is less than one percent (26) and one in ICU.
    So obviously almost all are mild cases.
    Do you know our testing per million is 8th highest in the world?
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104645/covid19-testing-rate-select-countries-worldwide/
    With only mild cases we can treat them as common cold and stop testing them but as a responsible country, we have a responsible government who treasures her citizens’ lives and our guest workers who have been here helping us for decades.
    Without a doubt, this is an appropriate action.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Importance is to save life:
    @Zhenzidan
    But in order to contain the dorm infections, how many billions of tax payers’ dollars have to be spent to pay the 300,000 dorm workers, no need to work and provide them with free meals 3 times a day? Because of this great dorm workers quarantine, how many companies have to stop work and how many closed down as a result? Like that not unfortunate?
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    Government spent billions to contain the dormitories outbreak?
    Please give us the breakdown figures please.
    You see, until today there are over 4 hundred thousand over cases. Out of this our fatality rate is less than one percent (26) and one in ICU.
    So obviously almost all are mild cases.
    Do you know our testing per million is 8th highest in the world?
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104645/covid19-testing-rate-select-countries-worldwide/
    With only mild cases we can treat them as common cold and stop testing them but as a responsible country, we have a responsible government who treasures her citizens’ lives and our guest workers who have been here helping us for decades.
    Without a doubt, this is an appropriate action.

    You can’t even differentiate between Forty thousand and Four hundred thousand and want me to give you a breakdown?

    Don’t come and sugar-coat your words like Tin Pei Ling by saying “treasuring citizens’ lives. Other countries are also fighting hard to save patients’ lives and because their population and countries are so much bigger than Singapore, they have a harder time than us.

    And if you go by the percentage of infected cases (40,000+) in proportion to our population, (5.7 million) our infection rate is one of the highest, if not the highest in the world! The country is so small yet you cannot control the infection like Thailand, Taiwan, HK and Vietnam where the land and population is so much bigger than Singapore! And their govt are paid so much less than Singapore ministers!

    Furthermore it is every govt’s responsibility to save lives, other govt also struggling, so what cock are you talking?

    Stop testing them? Don’t talk thru your a$$e. If they are not tested, they will infect maybe the entire population! Remember, to date, less than one third of the 300,000 foreign workers are tested. Expect the number to swell further!

    If they have not given the stupid instruction “No need to wear masks if you’re not sick”, our dorm workers infection won’t be so high and we would not have needed to spend so many billions of our tax payers’ money to do damage control!

    Hello! This is the highest paid govt in the world you know?

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Importance is to save life:
    @Zhenzidan
    But in order to contain the dorm infections, how many billions of tax payers’ dollars have to be spent to pay the 300,000 dorm workers, no need to work and provide them with free meals 3 times a day? Because of this great dorm workers quarantine, how many companies have to stop work and how many closed down as a result? Like that not unfortunate?
    —————————————————-
    Government spent billions to contain the dormitories outbreak?
    Please give us the breakdown figures please.
    You see, until today there are over 4 hundred thousand over cases. Out of this our fatality rate is less than one percent (26) and one in ICU.
    So obviously almost all are mild cases.
    Do you know our testing per million is 8th highest in the world?
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104645/covid19-testing-rate-select-countries-worldwide/
    With only mild cases we can treat them as common cold and stop testing them but as a responsible country, we have a responsible government who treasures her citizens’ lives and our guest workers who have been here helping us for decades.
    Without a doubt, this is an appropriate action.

    We are not questioning whether this is “appropriate action”. We are reprimanding the govt for failing to listen to the right advice given by our local 4 medical experts who disagreed with W.H.O. about “no need to wear masks unless sick”.

    And don’t keep looking at our low fatality rate. I prefer to look at Thailand, Vietnam and Taiwan, low infection rates. Our fight is far from over, still a bloody long way to go with a few more hundred thousand foreign workers yet to be tested. As long as the infection keep increasing, the fight continues, and more businesses will close down, more people will lose their jobs and how many more billions can we afford to spend again? This is what we mean by “unfortunate”, not whether the govt is responsible or not!

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  • Not Paid IB:

    @Zhenzidan:
    There is probably a paid IB here spinning the huge screw-up by the Profit-Above-People.Try not to waste too much time engaging him.

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  • F-16I Sufa:

    mainly because these ppl who voted for them ARE fkking idiotic monkeys and dogs themselves. I have many in my clan circle.

    Dun Bluff Mi U Tink I 2pid?:
    Sometimes I wonder why some people are pushing these guys to be the Leeders of Tomorrow.. LW, Keechiu, Oyk, Sex-in-small-spaces, Goldfish etc.. Obviously these guys have proven that they cannot make it! So they must go!

    Why can’t we find the Tsai Ing-wen, the Jacinda Ardern, etc to lead SG despite us paying million dollar salaries to our current bunch of useless pappies? I thought Woody’s wife said “You pay peanuts you get monkeys”? Why are there so many monkeys in the parleement despite paying more than peanuts ($600k)? Does it mean that the Tsai Ing-wen, the Jacinda Ardern & the real leaders who have solved their country’s covid problem are lesser than monkeys?

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Not Paid IB:
    @Zhenzidan:
    There is probably a paid IB here spinning the huge screw-up by the Profit-Above-People.Try not to waste too much time engaging him.

    no problem for me mate, one of my favourite hobbies is to make these IBs look stupid. There’s another one PAPGUARANTEEWIN who is always using different monikers. I suspect that fellow may be the Cynical Idiot because both like to use the phrase “Ang Mo Tua Kee”. And you notice something? Eversince this Covid 19 outbreak, the Cynical Idiot has been quite silent.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhendidan
    We are not questioning whether this is “appropriate action”. We are reprimanding the govt for failing to listen to the right advice given by our local 4 medical experts who disagreed with W.H.O. about “no need to wear masks unless sick”.
    And don’t keep looking at our low fatality rate. I prefer to look at Thailand, Vietnam and Taiwan, low infection rates. Our fight is far from over, still a bloody long way to go with a few more hundred thousand foreign workers yet to be tested. As long as the infection keep increasing, the fight continues, and more businesses will close down, more people will lose their jobs and how many more billions can we afford to spend again? This is what we mean by “unfortunate”, not whether the govt is responsible or not!
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    First we must understand that this is a new virus. As I said before, if anyone knows the nature of this virus and how it spreads, this person can save the world.
    There are epidemiologists around the world. If they have understood the nature of the virus at
    beginning, then the spread could probably have been contained.
    If we don’t look at the fatality rate, what do we look at then?
    If the spread goes to 100% of the people and there is no fatality, then there is nothing to worry about the virus. We can take it as common flu.
    Britain initially tried to use the herd immunity method but had to U-turn back halfway because of high fatality rates.
    To run a country is not like drinking water. There are a lot of considerations.
    The economic impact is on our workers and businesses.
    It’s not just shouting in the street and then the government have to keep changing policies. We are going to fail in that case.
    I stress again, this is a new virus and at the beginning it was unknown.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Importance is to save life:
    I stress again, this is a new virus and at the beginning it was unknown.
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    I also stress again, this is a new virus but Thailand, Vietnam, Taiwan, HK managed to contain it. Their leaders are paid so much less and they did it. Our leaders are supposed to be First World leaders but the infection rate became the highest in South East Asia.

    Don’t keep looking at fatality rate and start self-praising. Like I mentioned earlier, you reprimand your child for scoring only 47 points out of 100 in a test and he turns around and tells you other people scored only 30 and some even got zero. He avoids talking about students who are financially poorer but scored 60 points and above, so that he won’t look so bad!
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    “Britain initially tried to use the herd immunity method but had to U-turn back halfway because of high fatality rates.”

    What about PAP? Initially told people “no need to wear masks unless sick”, later because of sudden surge of infection rates, also had to U-turn and tell people “don’t wear mask kena fined!”

    Don’t try to act smart defending your beloved PAP, it makes you look really stupid!

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan

    Don’t keep looking at fatality rate and start self-praising. Like I mentioned earlier, you reprimand your child for scoring only 47 points out of 100 in a test and he turns around and tells you other people scored only 30 and some even got zero. He avoids talking about students who are financially poorer but scored 60 points and above, so that he won’t look so bad!
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    Don’t look at the fatality rate?
    As I said, if there is no fatality rate then the world wouldn’t need to go into a lockdown already. They could treat it as common cold and there will be no issue.
    But do you know that the whole world is crippled by this pandemic?
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    “Britain initially tried to use the herd immunity method but had to U-turn back halfway because of high fatality rates.”
    What about PAP? Initially told people “no need to wear masks unless sick”, later because of sudden surge of infection rates, also had to U-turn and tell people “don’t wear mask kena fined!”
    Don’t try to act smart defending your beloved PAP, it makes you look really stupid!
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    We U turn?

    At the critical point when the whole world is in shortage of masks, they made the right decision to protect the front line workers first.
    Now, besides the dormitories, we don’t have serious community spread.

    Act smart to defend PAP?

    Hahaha. Who are we to defend PAP?
    PAP doesn’t need anyone to defend them.
    If voters have been voting for them for the last 50 over years, it is obvious that they are doing an excellent job for our country.
    Just look at this. Remember jobs and opportunities have to be created.If we fail, where are we going to find jobs?
    Can we still earn what we are earning now?
    So treasure what we have and help make this place work.

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  • Dun Bluff Mi U Tink I 2pid?:

    F-16I Sufa:
    mainly because these ppl who voted for them ARE fkking idiotic monkeys and dogs themselves. I have many in my clan circle.

    Good luck. It is hard to wake people up when they just switch off their ears anything about oppos.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Importance is to save life

    “As I said, if there is no fatality rate then the world wouldn’t need to go into a lockdown already. They could treat it as common cold and there will be no issue.”

    Unfortunately this virus can cause fatalities. And the best way to prevent fatalities is to prevent infection, because infections will sooner result in ftalities. Treat it as common cold? That was what dump Trump did, and the U.S. beacame the highest infection and fatality rate in the world!
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    But do you know that the whole world is crippled by this pandemic?

    Only a dumb would not know. But I also know Thailand, Vietnam, HK and Taiwan brought this pandemic in their country under control. And till now, you dare not talk about it because these facts made your arguments look stupid!
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    “We U turn?

    At the critical point when the whole world is in shortage of masks, they made the right decision to protect the front line workers first.
    Now, besides the dormitories, we don’t have serious community spread.”

    Another stupid argument! Oh! Protect the frontline workers and let 41,000 get infected?

    Shortage of masks? Did the 4 medical experts not suggest “if shortage of masks, use reusable masks. Reserve the surgical masks for our medical workers. If worse comes to worst, use handkerchief to improvise as masks. That’s better than having no mask at all!”

    LHL’s reply? “putting on masks can create a false sense of security!” This kind of reply is called “protecting our frontline medical workers? When the govt U-turn on the mask issue, Ho Ching already admitted “we underestimated this virus”. Even CCS who scolded mask hoarding people as idiots dare not defend himself anymore. But it is ass-lickers like you who kept parroting what this Idiotic minister said in the beginning.
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    “Hahaha. Who are we to defend PAP?
    PAP doesn’t need anyone to defend them.

    You’re right. PAP doesn’t need anyone to defend them. PAP only needs people like us to fiack them left and right in order to wake up! Like I mentioned above, PAP now dare not defend themselves anymore. It’s ass-lickers like you and Calvin Cheng still harping on the “low fatality” to desperately make PAP look good.
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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Importance is to save life:

    “If voters have been voting for them for the last 50 over years, it is obvious that they are doing an excellent job for our country.”

    Voters had been voting for them because many are as stupid as you. Which country has a stupid GRC system? Which country will redraw boundaries where SMCs which they nearly lost are all absorbed into their own GRC? Only the PAP in Singapore!

    This scenario is like a football match, PAP vs Oppositions, played at PAP’s home ground. First 40 minutes, PAP was leading 4-0. Suddenly last 2 minutes of first half, opposition scored two goals to make it 4-2. Opposition then have another 45 minutes of second half to turn the tables around. But at the start of the 2nd half, PAP suddenly changed the goal posts into very much smaller ones to make it difficult for oppositions to score. Oppositions protested. PAP retorted. Our goal-posts also changed to smaller one. So nothing unfair! They changed the goal-posts size when they were leading, mind you…

    This was how PAP had been winning.
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    “Now, besides the dormitories, we don’t have serious community spread.”

    As long as there is dormitory spread, PAP have to keep using tax payers’ money, OUR MONEY, to test all 300,000 of the foreign workers, pay their medical fees, feed them, pay them without work, mobilise more medical workers to look after them at the risk of getting infected, implement Circuit Breaker resulting in many companies closing down and workers losing jobs.

    All these money and efforts could have been saved, and trouble avoided if PAP had not told people in the beginning “don’t wear mask if not sick!”

    And if the community spread suddenly becomes serious, will you start admitting PAP failed? No! You will turn around and say “So many people never listen, don’t want to wear masks. So not the PAP’s fault!”

    This would definitely be an ass-licker’s reply…..in other words, your reply

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Importance is to save life

    “Just look at this. Remember jobs and opportunities have to be created.If we fail, where are we going to find jobs?”

    When the two casinos were built, PAP proudly proclaimed that they will create 35,000 jobs. But How many Singaporeans got the jobs? Visit the two casinos and you find yourself attended by a foreigner most of the time!
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    “Can we still earn what we are earning now?”

    Pose this question to those Singaporeans in their 40s and 50s who got replaced by cheaper foreigners. From Senior Managers in their 30s later became taxi driver when they got replaced. Worse still, when they reached their 50s, they still have housing mortgage to service and by then their children in the university where the school fees are killing them. After paying for their children to graduation, they practically had nothing to retire on. This is what they are earning now!
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    “So treasure what we have and help make this place work.”

    Yes, make this place work by denying the PAP absolute power, vote in more oppositions to deny them two-third majority so that they won’t suka suka implement stupid polocies like increase population to 6.9 million (potential huge outbreak of Covid 19) or suka suka increase this and that prices.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Zhenzidan:

    JUST TWO WORDS – good fireworks.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan:
    “If voters have been voting for them for the last 50 over years, it is obvious that they are doing an excellent job for our country.”
    Voters had been voting for them because many are as stupid as you. Which country has a stupid GRC system? Which country will redraw boundaries where SMCs which they nearly lost are all absorbed into their own GRC? Only the PAP in Singapore!
    This scenario is like a football match, PAP vs Oppositions, played at PAP’s home ground. First 40 minutes, PAP was leading 4-0. Suddenly last 2 minutes of first half, opposition scored two goals to make it 4-2. Opposition then have another 45 minutes of second half to turn the tables around. But at the start of the 2nd half, PAP suddenly changed the goal posts into very much smaller ones to make it difficult for oppositions to score. Oppositions protested. PAP retorted. Our goal-posts also changed to smaller one. So nothing unfair! They changed the goal-posts size when they were leading, mind you…
    This was how PAP had been winning.
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    PAP have been winning for the last half a century have nothing to do with what you said above.
    Is because they’re able to make this place work and work very well that’s why Singaporeans keep voting for them._

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan

    As long as there is dormitory spread, PAP have to keep using tax payers’ money, OUR MONEY, to test all 300,000 of the foreign workers, pay their medical fees, feed them, pay them without work, mobilise more medical workers to look after them at the risk of getting infected, implement Circuit Breaker resulting in many companies closing down and workers losing jobs.
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    We must understand without the foreigners here to help us many businesses won’t be here because not enough manpower.So there will be no or less jobs and business opportunities for us.Then where to make money to pay tax ?
    Singaporeans and foreigners alike who helped make this country prosper and naturally is our responsibility to help them.
    Circuit Breaker or lockdown down is around the world not only us and is to save lives.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan
    All these money and efforts could have been saved, and trouble avoided if PAP had not told people in the beginning “don’t wear mask if not sick!”
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    In the beginning and also the most critical times there is a serious global shortage of masks.And their decision to protect the front line workers first is correct.Now the outcome shows.No serious community spread and very low fatality rate.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan

    And if the community spread suddenly becomes serious, will you start admitting PAP failed? No! You will turn around and say “So many people never listen, don’t want to wear masks. So not the PAP’s fault!”
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    If you have follow the Worldometer daily report of the covid 19 cases you would have noticed that there is a spike in cases in India & US after opening up the first phase of the lockdown.
    From here there is something important for us to understand.The virus is still there, lockdown is just to slow down the spread.And after opening up we must avoid mass gathering of people to prevent a resurgence of the virus.
    So the important point here is,every individual must understand that the virus
    NEED A CARRIER TO SPREAD.
    Is every individual responsibility to prevent the spread by keeping a safe distance masks on in crowded places avoid talking loudly and nonstop cause one might be spreading the virus unknowingly.And don’t stay at the coffee shop or crowded area for hours cause the virus might still be there .
    Task force only can maps out rules for us to follow.They can’t go round 7/24 to check on every individual.
    So instead of blaming or arguing here for the sake of arguing, go spread this message to our fellow Singaporeans who still not aware how the virus is spread.
    If every individual understand how this virus is spread and play our part we can control the spread easily.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Importance is to save life

    “PAP have been winning for the last half a century have nothing to do with what you said above.
    Is because they’re able to make this place work and work very well that’s why Singaporeans keep voting for them.”
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    Nothing to do with these? When were you born? Pioneer PAP ministers like LKY, Goh Keng Swee, Toh Chin Chye are the ones that made this work. There was 100% from the election years, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980. In 1981, they lost the Anson by-elections but they thought it was only a fluke. But when they lost two seats in 1984, LKY started this GRC. We the voters not happy with the change but cannot do anything.

    Then they start redrawing boundaries. If voters have been voting for them “because they make this place work”, PAp no need to make this kind of changes. Only a fool like you cannot see through their tricks!

    I have already rebutted you but you still keep using the same arguments.
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    We must understand without the foreigners here to help us many businesses won’t be here because not enough manpower.So there will be no or less jobs and business opportunities for us.Then where to make money to pay tax ?
    Singaporeans and foreigners alike who helped make this country prosper and naturally is our responsibility to help them.
    Circuit Breaker or lockdown down is around the world not only us and is to save lives.
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    You have a problem understanding my language? I never say we don’t need foreigners. I am saying we have too many foreigners and because there are too many cramped in this small island, the virus outbreak spread like wildfire. Why are TRE readers f–king Manpower Minister here? Because of her neglect. Organisations had been warning them about the cramped living conditions but they never listened, until the infected numbers of dorm workers started shooting up by hundreds everyday! And now, we are spending millions, if not billions of tax payers’ money to do damage control. It’s a very high price and the PAP is responsible for that! And you still telling us “Give them credit!”?

    Please stop parroting what PAP always like to say “Without foreigners, there will be no jobs for Singaporeans. The problem here is they let in too many foreigners and they are also taking over jobs in banking services, you mean Singaporeans don’t like to do banking jobs? Gone are the days when I go to the bank, I was always attended by a local and I had no problem understanding them. Nowadays I keep receiving telemarketing cold calls from local banks who spoke in funny foreign accents until I got to tell them off.

    You tell me, which city in the world can you find almost half are foreigners? Now, more than half! Take the MRT you will know. Maybe you do not mind because maybe you are one of those new citizens.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Importance is to save life

    In the beginning and also the most critical times there is a serious global shortage of masks.And their decision to protect the front line workers first is correct.Now the outcome shows.No serious community spread and very low fatality rate.
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    I have already rebutted you but you seem too stupid to understand. The four medical experts already suggested “If shortage of masks, use reusable masks or improvise with handkerchief. It’s better than no masks”.

    Why didn’t PAP heed this advice earlier?

    Yes. Now the outcome shows. The infected rate shot up to nearly 42,000! And now spending many millions for damage control! Because they told us “No need to wear masks if not sick”,
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    If you have follow the Worldometer daily report of the covid 19 cases you would have noticed that there is a spike in cases in India & US after opening up the first phase of the lockdown.
    From here there is something important for us to understand.
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    You think I am so ignorant, don’t know how to read foreign news, need you to teach me ah? Why keep looking at India or U.S., countries so much more bigger and populous than Singapore? Why dare not mention HK, Thailand, Vietnam and Taiwan? From here there is something for YOU, PAP ass-licker to understand, that if the PAP had acted fast like these countries, we would have been like them now, situation under control but still practise vigilance.
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    So instead of blaming or arguing here for the sake of arguing, go spread this message to our fellow Singaporeans who still not aware how the virus is spread.
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    Instead of trying desperately to defend the PAP, you better stop defending them, (since you said they don’t you to defend) and end up looking like a blind and stupid PAP supporter. Spread the message to fellow Singaporeans? They need you to do that meh? The message that I want to spread is “Stop defending the govt’s inadequacies” And if after a few weeks when Singaporeans managed to control the spread of the virus , all the PAP ass-lickers must shut-up and not telling everyone “The PAP did a good job to control the spread>”

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Importance is to save life

    Last but not least, I would not have bothered to rebut you if you have not stupidly said “Give them credit lah!” (And still deny that you are defending them!)

    If you have conceded that the govt did falter initially and they indirectly admitted to it (Ho Ching admitted underestimating the virus and Lawrence Wong admitted “Not having the hindsight initially) and now they are trying desperately to rescue the situation, so continue harping on their initial failures is not going to help, I would have supported you whole-heartedly. But you reacted like those typical ass-licker, still tell us give them credit and turning a blind eye on their failures and still trying to justify those failures, this is what the Chinese saying said “睁开眼睛说瞎话” (Talking blindly with eyes wide opened)

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhendizan

    “Just look at this. Remember jobs and opportunities have to be created.If we fail, where are we going to find jobs?”
    When the two casinos were built, PAP proudly proclaimed that they will create 35,000 jobs. But How many Singaporeans got the jobs? Visit the two casinos and you find yourself attended by a foreigner most of the time!
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    I have only been to the casino twice. I don’t have any idea how many Singaporeans are working there. But just by looking at the floor you can’t jump to a conclusion that no Singaporeans are working there. Perhaps they are working at the management levels.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan
    Pose this question to those Singaporeans in their 40s and 50s who got replaced by cheaper foreigners. From Senior Managers in their 30s later became taxi driver when they got replaced. Worse still, when they reached their 50s, they still have housing mortgage to service and by then their children in the university where the school fees are killing them. After paying for their children to graduation, they practically had nothing to retire on. This is what they are earning now!
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    The job and doing business now and before are very different.
    Before, businesses have no competition and even their employees can have pensions packages. But things are very different now.
    I give you an example.
    Last time after you ORD (after army), you can start working as a storeman with an O level certificate and a starting pay of $800.
    And with NWC, your pay will keep rising every year. By the time you retire at 55 years old, you might be drawing a few thousand dollars but your qualifications and job scope are still the same. That means the company costs have increased but not productivity. So when there is no competition the company can afford to pay you.
    Now with stiff competition globally and new technology, businesses operating here are subject to global competition. We can have rules to protect our workers, but if they cannot compete here they will close shop and move elsewhere. There will then be no jobs for us.
    I give you another example.
    20 over years ago, when you take SQ to Melbourne, it is SGD $900. At that time airline staff are very well paid. Today (I meant before covid), you can fly to Melbourne for less than $600. With such cutthroat competition they have to cut costs, or else they have to close shop because they cannot compete. So the only choice is outsourcing. The pay becomes lower and sometime foreigners take over the jobs. Workers who are not aware of the plight of the management accuse them for hiring foreign workers at the expense of locals.So this the problem.

    Anyway our median workers pay in year 2018 is $4563.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan
    Yes, make this place work by denying the PAP absolute power, vote in more oppositions to deny them two-third majority so that they won’t suka suka implement stupid polocies like increase population to 6.9 million (potential huge outbreak of Covid 19) or suka suka increase this and that prices.
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    To vote PAP out is like committing suicide.
    Any alternative?
    What are the alternatives?
    Nearly 1.5 million of our citizens are 56 years old and above and our birth rate is 1.14 last year. We need foreigners to help us grow our economy, or else as our population declines our economy will go down. The younger generation will suffer. If we are a natural resources rich country, then a smaller population size is better.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Importance is to save life

    “I have only been to the casino twice. I don’t have any idea how many Singaporeans are working there. But just by looking at the floor you can’t jump to a conclusion that no Singaporeans are working there. Perhaps they are working at the management levels.”
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    I never said “no Singaporeans”. I said majority are foreigners. Singaporeans working at their management level? Hello! You never read about Singaporean PMET replaced by foreigners? And only after Singaporeans start making noises then the MOM start to wayang, coming out with vague laws to “ensure Singaporeans get employed” but left many loopholes for the employers to exploit.

    And FYI, I used run events and always need to liaise with the Casino management there. And so far all who liaised are foreigners, Filipinos and PRCs! And it’s not just casinos. Go to any local bank, and you see at least 40% or 50% are foreigners or new citizens!
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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Importance is to save life

    The job and doing business now and before are very different.
    Before, businesses have no competition and even their employees can have pensions packages. But things are very different now.
    I give you an example.
    Last time after you ORD (after army), you can start working as a storeman with an O level certificate and a starting pay of $800.
    And with NWC, your pay will keep rising every year. By the time you retire at 55 years old, you might be drawing a few thousand dollars but your qualifications and job scope are still the same. That means the company costs have increased but not productivity. So when there is no competition the company can afford to pay you.
    Now with stiff competition globally and new technology, businesses operating here are subject to global competition. We can have rules to protect our workers, but if they cannot compete here they will close shop and move elsewhere. There will then be no jobs for us.
    I give you another example.
    20 over years ago, when you take SQ to Melbourne, it is SGD $900. At that time airline staff are very well paid. Today (I meant before covid), you can fly to Melbourne for less than $600. With such cutthroat competition they have to cut costs, or else they have to close shop because they cannot compete. So the only choice is outsourcing. The pay becomes lower and sometime foreigners take over the jobs. Workers who are not aware of the plight of the management accuse them for hiring foreign workers at the expense of locals.So this the problem.

    Anyway our median workers pay in year 2018 is $4563.
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    Hello, no need to be so long-winded, parroting things which the govt always said and I already know. I myself ran a company before and the biggest killer is still the rental! Sometimes the landlord can suka suka increase rental by 300%. Because of all these, I have to let go some staff and finally I had to resort to employing freelancers where I pay them only when there are assignments. So it’s not just “competition”. It’s rental and all the stupid taxes. So how does the govt help us? By making it easier for us to employ foreigners, meaning at the extent of Singaporeans. Even so, other types of costs also keep increasing and finally I decided enough is enough.

    Why are we, the employers paying for this and that? So that govt can earn more from our taxes to pay themselves!, the highest paid govt in the world!

    Now let’s not deviate too much from our main subject, that is the govt flopped seriously in this pandemic control.

    And please don’t be dumb, unable to tell the difference between “No need foreigners” and “too many foreigners”. Just like a drug. It can relieve your pain but too much of it will harm your body. So when someone had been hospitalised because of drug overdose, you don’t go and tell “You need drugs to relieve your pain”!

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Importance is to save life:
    @Zhenzidan
    Yes, make this place work by denying the PAP absolute power, vote in more oppositions to deny them two-third majority so that they won’t suka suka implement stupid polocies like increase population to 6.9 million (potential huge outbreak of Covid 19) or suka suka increase this and that prices.
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    To vote PAP out is like committing suicide.
    Any alternative?
    What are the alternatives?

    Calling you a dumb is not not wrong. “deny PAP two third majority” means voting them out?

    Oh yah, I forgot you don’t even know the difference between 40,000 and 400,000!

    Voting PAP out is committing suicide? That’s what PAP ass-lickers always said. Singapore voters may be dumb like you, but Singapore has many opposition members who are professionals in their own field, not like some PAP paper generals like CCS and Ong Yat Chung!(The former SAF scholar who took over Neptune Orient Lines only to sell it away due dropping revenue, but the buyer, a French shipping company turned the losses around within one year.) Now this stupid Ong is the CEO of SPH and the newspapers are now struggling.

    On the other hand, opposition SDP’s Paul Thambiah is an Infectious Disease expert, mind you. These talented oppositions just needed a platform to show how they can govern Singapore. But 70% are as dumb as you, cannot see through the capabilities of oppositions.
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    “Nearly 1.5 million of our citizens are 56 years old and above and our birth rate is 1.14 last year. We need foreigners to help us grow our economy, or else as our population declines our economy will go down. The younger generation will suffer. If we are a natural resources rich country, then a smaller population size is better.”
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    Foreigners help us grow? Many of them after earning enough just returned home to buy bigger houses. Many also renounced their citizensghip because they know Singapore is not a place to grow old. That’s what many of my foreign friends told me!

    Help to grow Singapore? If Singapore can longer offer them sweeteners, they will just pack up with their earned Singapore money and fiack off. Who will care for a country where they were not born there?

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan, hahaha your view of our dormitory cases is serious. To me the low fatality rate is important.
    As of today, we have forty over thousand cases, but our fatality cases are 26, which is less than 1% and there’s only one in ICU.
    Only 199 cases are in hospital.
    If our fatality rate is high and overwhelming our hospital facilities, then that is considered a failure.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Importance is to save life:
    @Zhenzidan, hahaha your view of our dormitory cases is serious. To me the low fatality rate is important.
    As of today, we have forty over thousand cases, but our fatality cases are 26, which is less than 1% and there’s only one in ICU.
    Only 199 cases are in hospital.
    If our fatality rate is high and overwhelming our hospital facilities, then that is considered a failure.

    Low fatality rate but still have to always practise social distancing, some business remain closed, people still cannot resume normal life, why? because of high infection rate, idiot! Also because of high infection rate, Singapore still considered high risk and cannot travel as per normal!

    Which country will allow you in just because of your country’s low fatality rate?

    And if your father or mother also died of this covid 19, would you still feel proud of this “low fatality rate”?

    Really a dumb PAP ass-licker!

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  • Go get real job:

    @Importance is to save life.
    Everyone know that you are paid IBs.
    You are probably relatively young.
    Why don’t you go out there in the real world to find a real job.
    Working as paid IBs is not good for your mental state, nor your future.
    You may help make this country into another NKorea if your pay-masters succeed.
    They have zero morals. If you bother to read history of this nation from 1959 you will know.
    Thought control, zero press freedom–that’s how the NKoreas of this world are created.
    Better still read George Orwell’s 1984 and Animal Farm; Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury;We by Yevgeny Zamyatin;The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood….
    You are helping to create a dystopian society.

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  • Impotence is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan
    __________________________________________________
    Hello, no need to be so long-winded, parroting things which the govt always said and I already know. I myself ran a company before and the biggest killer is still the rental! Sometimes the landlord can suka suka increase rental by 300%. Because of all these, I have to let go some staff and finally I had to resort to employing freelancers where I pay them only when there are assignments. So it’s not just “competition”. It’s rental and all the stupid taxes. So how does the govt help us? By making it easier for us to employ foreigners, meaning at the extent of Singaporeans. Even so, other types of costs also keep increasing and finally I decided enough is enough.
    Why are we, the employers paying for this and that? So that govt can earn more from our taxes to pay themselves!, the highest paid govt in the world!
    ————————————-
    Singapore is ranked the most competitive economy in the world. I feel very sad for you for not being able to compete in the business world. That is why you are venting your anger here.
    Luckily majority of the businesses are able to tackle the competition, otherwise many Singaporeans will be jobless.(I meant before covid 19).
    It’s very sad you chose to blame this or that for not successful in business when many others are doing well.

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  • Impotence is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan
    Why are we, the employers paying for this and that? So that govt can earn more from our taxes to pay themselves!, the highest paid govt in the world!
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    The highest paid government in the world?
    We are just 700sq km, what resources do we have? Human Resources? We don’t own oil wells or gold mines, but in this storm of a pandemic we had spent around $100 billion to help Singaporeans and businesses. Where did the money come from? Isn’t it because we have a capable government who relentlessly puts in tremendous effort to make this place work? And we have a nation of wise citizens who understand how to make this place work by constantly endorsing the system that we have.
    If you look at our success today, they’re way underpaid.

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  • Impotence is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan

    Now let’s not deviate too much from our main subject, that is the govt flopped seriously in this pandemic control
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    I posted this earlier
    Zhenzidan, your view of our dormitory cases is serious. To me the low fatality rate is important.
    As of today, we have forty over thousand cases, but our fatality cases are 26, which is less than 1% and there’s only one in ICU.
    Only 199 cases are in hospital.
    If our fatality rate is high and overwhelming our hospital facilities, then that is considered a failure.

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  • Impotence is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan
    And please don’t be dumb, unable to tell the difference between “No need foreigners” and “too many foreigners”. Just like a drug. It can relieve your pain but too much of it will harm your body. So when someone had been hospitalised because of drug overdose, you don’t go and tell “You need drugs to relieve your pain”!
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    Are you a expert? To make this place work government knows better.

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  • Importance is to save life:

    @Zhenzidan
    _______________________________
    Nothing to do with these? When were you born? Pioneer PAP ministers like LKY, Goh Keng Swee, Toh Chin Chye are the ones that made this work. There was 100% from the election years, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980. In 1981, they lost the Anson by-elections but they thought it was only a fluke. But when they lost two seats in 1984, LKY started this GRC. We the voters not happy with the change but cannot do anything.
    Then they start redrawing boundaries. If voters have been voting for them “because they make this place work”, PAp no need to make this kind of changes. Only a fool like you cannot see through their tricks!
    I have already rebutted you but you still keep using the same arguments.
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    It’s rubbish
    How about Hougang? How come WP has been there for so long.

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  • group / organization / compan:

    //Singapore is ranked the most competitive economy in the world. I feel very sad for you for not being able to compete in the business world. That is why you are venting your anger here.//

    really or not ? competition also means fighting and lobbying for your own interest and the interest of your group / organization / company or whatnot ? smarter people (top percentile income earners) always do that (fighting, lobbying, negotiating) but lesser peasants are conditioned / brainwashed to accept their lesser station of lives ????

    white idiots also did say (or declare quite openly hor) ownself-check-ownself one curry party system ??? white idiots competitive meh or more like wayang competitive like 4 = 5 and selected = elected ???

    aiyoh, why not MOOMOMM just approve anyone (free competition right ?) who wishes to work here OR they do pick and choose ??? even countries negotiate FREE TRADE agreement to ensure they advantage their own citizens or businesses ? if their people feel that it is not fair for them, they will protest and demonstrate ???

    if sinkie land is open-leg policy, of course others (FTs or half baked ones) will rate it highly lar as they also hope that it stays lagi more open-leg for many people (own kakis) to join in the fun ???

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  • CRITICALLY scratch their head:

    //How about Hougang? How come WP has been there for so long.//

    wow pian ? like that also can ? can also say like this, that means HG despite all the stones and garbage thrown at them, they still came out strong lar ? got heard or not, exception rather than the norm ???

    any self-declared democratic country which has a dominant party (I mean really dominant like 80%-90% of the seats) for so many years, then one should CRITICALLY scratch their head ???

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  • OLD MAN??:

    @Importance is to save life

    Is that you old man? I can see that you are trying very hard now that election is definitely here.

    But alas, you are still giving yourself away with the same old arguments long long ago that cannot stand scrutiny and has been destroyed long ago.

    Too many logical fallacy when you are trying to defend the indefensible, such as:

    -Harping on past glories, and attributing them as a product of the current team’s talent (duh no, it is the first 2g at most)
    - Underpaid talents (Multiple appointments in other companies as board member Rmb the guy with 53 appointments, and the $2 AIM management team? I rest my case)
    - Assumption that ONLY PAP can come out with the policies they are doing, and that their policies are too difficult (for you at least) to come out with, thus they are the only option to govt. ( I present you SDP’s multiple proposals that were quietly copied and not given credit)
    - Pandering to the ego of potential voters by calling them “wise”

    We are ignoring a lot of other transgression here, but let’s keep it short.
    ==

    Since election is coming, how about this instead(instead of the usual propaganda BS that only makes PAP looks horrible)?

    You write any article, as long as you want, or a series of it, on why PAP is the best, and post it on this website. Be sure to defend it well, and don’t make your paymaster look bad.
    You can get the civil service team (or the IB team) that agrees with you to chip in. No problem at all since the voters will be happy to see it fully defended from all views.
    Also remember to post what the current 3G and 4G has fully came up with and done it successfully (and no, we are not talking about being the best in answering every crisis with a committee)

    Once it is ready, post it! Then you see whether you can stand the test of criticism and rationality. Oh, and please, no propaganda techniques! It can be sniffed out from a mile away in this forum. The ball now is in your court, and silence or rejection of this offer is a sign of weakness you know? You don’t want that to be perceived by your swing voters yea?

    Also, remember to post a eye catching title, such as “PAP and no one else!!”
    I bid you well in trying to patch the hydra-like leaks for your soon to come article. Good luck!

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  • this kind of expertise:

    //Are you a expert? To make this place work government knows better.//

    yar lar ? you mean garment expert like 4 = 5 and selected = elected ? one curry party function ? mask and then no mask ?? does not take much to understand that garment is good in this kind of expertise ???

    maybe should say, to make this place work better for the white monkey idiots and gang, white idiots knows how to wayang better ???? need to be an expert to know this meh ???

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  • oxygen:

    @ Importance is to save life:

    PAPpypolitics DOES NOT CHEW UP Hougang into a GRC for shrewd political calculation.

    There is one word to describe that oddity – it is called TOKENISM

    Importance is to save life: It’s rubbish
    How about Hougang? How come WP has been there for so long.

    Tokenism means the practice of making only a perfunctory or symbolic effort to do a particular thing.

    Imagine they eat up a sure lose (to PAPpy) SMC like Hougang SMC, voters across the land might read that of hostility against peasants and that could backfire on the electoral results elsewhere.

    Hougang SMC remains a SMC for so long for compelling electoral logic, not PAPpy charity. Not every fruit in the jungle is edible or safe to eat even in extreme hunger.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Impotence is to save life:

    FAT SUPPOSITION BELOW OF YOUR ASSERTION not substantiated.

    INDRANEE RAJAH SAID THAT COVID-19 hit this country like “a wrecking ball” – that is her vocabulary, not mine.

    Impotence is to save life: Are you a expert? To make this place work government knows better.

    If our government knows better, no amount of turbulence emerging and intruding from the outside will hit us like “a wrecking ball”. It didn’t hit NZ, OZ, Taiwan or even Thailand like a “wrecking ball” which Present Tense confessed needs massive “structural transformation”.

    In other words, the dilapidated structure of our economy is crumbling.

    So how did the “government knows better” caught with their pants down – not just of the dorm pandemic inferno BUT THE ECONOMIC STRUCTURE IN ENTIRETY?

    Your fat supposition makes you looks naive, gullible and ignorant of realities.

    TO AVOID DOUBT, PLEASE ASK PRESENT TENSE AND INDRANEE RAJAH.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Importance is to save life:

    TO SAVE EVERY LIFE IS IMPORTANT, that is not in dispute. BUT THE DORM IS SERIOUS. It started gradually, THEN BURST SUDDENLY of escalation.

    If it is not serious, how come the dorm is still spreading of detected cases. My informed source said building construction and infrastructure -worked on by their dorm-housed foreign workers – is still suspended.

    Obviously it is VERY DANGEROUS to re-open the quarantine gate right now at least, IT COULD SPARK A BURST OF GRADUAL, THEN SUDDENLY of community infection in public transports and construction workplace. And this time, on account of far bigger known infected case (than Jan/Feb 2020) might implode beyond all chances of containment.

    You can’t assume that it is community spread to dorm one-way (it could be that of past till now) but the next cycle could be from dorm to community.

    Covid-19 virus is VERY MISCHIEVOUS AND VICIOUS and also non-discriminatory of who it wants to infect.

    The next wave of infection fatality could come GRADUALLY, THEN SUDDENLY.

    I HOPE NOT.

    Impotence is to save life: To me the low fatality rate is important.
    As of today, we have forty over thousand cases, but our fatality cases are 26, which is less than 1% and there’s only one in ICU.
    Only 199 cases are in hospital.
    If our fatality rate is high and overwhelming our hospital facilities, then that is considered a failure.

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  • Impotence?????:

    Waliao eh! Take so many posts to realize importance and impotence.
    Speaking about this guy’s meticulousness and credulity.

    Rest assured @Zhenzidan you already won, don’t waste your time.

    Impotence is to save life:

    Importance is to save life:

    ——————————-
    It’s rubbish
    How about Hougang? How come WP has been there for so long.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Impotence is to save life:

    SUCH IS THE IMPOTENT STATE of your todler’s mind.

    Impotence is to save life: The highest paid government in the world?
    We are just 700sq km, what resources do we have? Human Resources? We don’t own oil wells or gold mines, but in this storm of a pandemic we had spent around $100 billion to help Singaporeans and businesses. Where did the money come from? Isn’t it because we have a capable government who relentlessly puts in tremendous effort to make this place work? And we have a nation of wise citizens who understand how to make this place work by constantly endorsing the system that we have.
    If you look at our success today, they’re way underpaid.

    If resources endowment is the fountain of wealth discovery and accumulation, both Australia and Canada would be the richest in the world and follow right behind would be Mexico, Peru and Chile, even Argentina, BUT THEY ARE NOT.

    Pappyoilitics/PAPpynomics got more than 50 years to buy up foreign resources entity and mine for gold, base metal or extract oil from oil fields BUT HAVEN’T DONE SO.

    They tried Cheasapeake energy. It is heading the bankruptcy door.

    Chesapeake Energy starts bankruptcy countdown

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/chesapeake-energy-starts-bankruptcy-countdown-2020-06-15#:~:text=Chesapeake%20Energy%20Corp.%20is%20preparing,to%20bondholders%20was%20due%20Monday.

    Another OZZIE oil developer, FAR Limited, in default financially is on sale. Its share is now trade at only 1.2c (not even 2c).

    https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20200624/pdf/44jx31fr095j6j.pdf

    Its Sangorma oil field project is among the largest oil discovery in the world in 2014.

    WHY DON’T YOU ENCOURAGE PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics to buy this giant oil field and “become very rich” in the future.

    IT IS ONLY 1.2c per share. Even a gambler like me won’t pay 1c per share for FAR limited

    Oh I forgot, another OZZIE gold mine is for sale – it is under voluntary administration. It has over a million ozs of gold in the ground and each ounce of gold is valued at US$1760.

    https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20200618/pdf/44jr7zpd2q6zgh.pdf

    It is called Gascoyne Resources. You might be able to get it from the administrator for ONE AUSTRALIAN DOLLAR but without further capital injection, it is a mere coffin with corpses (shareholders) sealed inside for burial.

    SO PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics cry baby of lack of resources in LEE-jiapore is todler baby cry looking for mothering.

    REALLY STUPID.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Impotence is to save life:

    OH, here is another piece of beauty to meet WITH YOUR INFATUATION with natural resources endowment which LEE-jiapore lacks.

    Pavilion Energy, a unit of Temasek Holdings paid US$1.29 billion for a mere 20% stake in an offshore Tanzanian gas field.

    According to Pavilion it asserted that :

    “The Tanzanian fields are estimated to hold some 15 trillion cubic feet of gas, with the first delivery expected to start in 2020.”

    https://www.pavilionenergy.com/news-20131115-04.html

    I don’t think that it even reached FID (final investment decision) to begin FEED (front end engineering design) ahead of infrastructure construction development which could take years. PAPpy news publishing does not print any update as of today of “progress” nor is PAPpy tv media now gone no sound, no picture. Maybe it is another white elephant – just like GIC investment in Paladin Energy (Australian uranium producer). GIC was a substantial shareholder of Paladin Energy until this entity went broke and bond holders confiscated over 95% of its equity base – eroding GIC’s invested capital share to pee sai (nose sh*t). To avoid doubt, you can call GIC to learn more.

    The moral of this illuminations are these

    - resources endowment is not wealth
    - resources endowment is subject to production depletion
    - resources extraction is capital intensive, complex of mining extraction and very high risks to commodities market volatility ( Pavillion Energy and Paladin Energy are example of casualties alongside Chesapeake Energy)

    The notion of LEE-jiapore lack natural resources is its alleged handicap is a PAPpypolitic’s pure FART OF FICTION FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.

    IF WE ARE SO DESPERATE OF THESE ENDOWMENT LACKING, WE CAN ALSO BUY THEM FROM other miners/explorers or country.

    China is the world’s largest gold producer BUT IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, Chinese state-owned gold producers have been buying up gold mines globally as if it is “free”.

    Chinese Gold Miners Continue To Gobble Up Gold Companies

    https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/chinese-gold-miners-continue-gobble-gold-companies?

    Why is Temasek Holdings/ GIC not doing the same if gold mines is such a pivotal importance to our wealth building and economic development??

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Impotence is to save life:

    Just look at how dumb you are, own moniker also can get mixed-up, especially both words “importance” and “impotence” have got totally different meanings!

    You said:
    “Singapore is ranked the most competitive economy in the world. I feel very sad for you for not being able to compete in the business world. That is why you are venting your anger here.

    Luckily majority of the businesses are able to tackle the competition, otherwise many Singaporeans will be jobless.(I meant before covid 19).
    It’s very sad you chose to blame this or that for not successful in business when many others are doing well.otherwise many Singaporeans will be jobless.(I meant before covid 19).
    It’s very sad you chose to blame this or that for not successful in business when many others are doing well.”
    _________________________________________________________________________

    There’s a difference between “one of the most” and “the most”, idiot!

    I am still in business, I said “had enough” doesn’t mean my business failed! Kotek! I meant rental was killing my business and I gave up renting and gave up employing full-time staff. This way, I still survived well, more profits.

    You said:
    “Luckily majority of the businesses are able to tackle the competition,”?
    __________________________________________________________________________
    Please don’t make my cock laugh! Go and google and see how many established businesses closed down in Singapore but still operating overseas, most notably Carefour. Go to ACRA and you will be able to see how many strt-ups closed within one year. Even your govt-backed Hawker Centre closed a few already! And the well-established 5-Star Travel Agency closed down suddenly and many who booked tours could not get back their deposits! Why? Because govt’s stupid laws don’t adequately protect consumers!
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    “Are you a expert? To make this place work government knows better.”
    _________________________________________________________________________
    Are you also an expert?, trying to teach a businessman how good this govt is, when you are just ass-licking them?

    I no need to be expert, I just need to have the right to fiack the govt when things go wrong, just like you have your right to ass-lick the govt. even when they performed badly.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Impotence is to save life:
    @Zhenzidan

    Now let’s not deviate too much from our main subject, that is the govt flopped seriously in this pandemic control
    ————————————-
    I posted this earlier
    Zhenzidan, your view of our dormitory cases is serious. To me the low fatality rate is important.
    As of today, we have forty over thousand cases, but our fatality cases are 26, which is less than 1% and there’s only one in ICU.
    Only 199 cases are in hospital.
    If our fatality rate is high and overwhelming our hospital facilities, then that is considered a failure.

    Hello, dumbfuck, you know what’s the meaning of “deviate”. You first talked about low fatality rate and later talked about “we need foreigners” and went on yakking about “foreigners very important to our economy”, this is called deviating, idiot!
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    “The highest paid government in the world?
    We are just 700sq km, what resources do we have? Human Resources? We don’t own oil wells or gold mines, but in this storm of a pandemic we had spent around $100 billion to help Singaporeans and businesses. Where did the money come from? Isn’t it because we have a capable government who relentlessly puts in tremendous effort to make this place work? And we have a nation of wise citizens who understand how to make this place work by constantly endorsing the system that we have.”
    ________________________________________________________________

    Spent $100 billion means they are capable? Oi! You give me $200 billion now I also know how to spend!
    ________________________________________________________________-
    “Where did the money come from?”

    Good Question! The money comes from our ancestors’ who paid tax, paid fines, paid CPF, supposedly to get back the CPF savings upon reaching 55 but govt changed the rules again and again to lock up the money! This is where the $100 billions came from, idiot!
    ____________________________________________________________

    “If you look at our success today, they’re way underpaid.”

    If we are really a “success” how come our citizens’ happiness index always so low? Even the people of a poor country like Bhutan are happier than us, how come? Success? Only PAP ass-lickers say so!

    Underpaid?
    Governing one of the smallest countries in the world and taking the highest salary in the world and you still feel they are underpaid? What does this show? Immense greed! That’s the trait of PAP and their ass-lickers!

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Importance is to save life:
    @Zhenzidan
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    Nothing to do with these? When were you born? Pioneer PAP ministers like LKY, Goh Keng Swee, Toh Chin Chye are the ones that made this work. There was 100% from the election years, 1968, 1972, 1976, 1980. In 1981, they lost the Anson by-elections but they thought it was only a fluke. But when they lost two seats in 1984, LKY started this GRC. We the voters not happy with the change but cannot do anything.
    Then they start redrawing boundaries. If voters have been voting for them “because they make this place work”, PAp no need to make this kind of changes. Only a fool like you cannot see through their tricks!
    I have already rebutted you but you still keep using the same arguments.
    ——————————-
    It’s rubbish
    How about Hougang? How come WP has been there for so long.

    Hahaha…not only my cock laughing, my ass laughing also! Like that also don’t know?

    WP has been there for so long because they haven’t lost Hougang yet. If WP lose Hougang by a narrow margin, rest assured that it would be absorbed into a PAP GRC in the next election like Ponggol East.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Impotence?????:
    Waliao eh! Take so many posts to realize importance and impotence.
    Speaking about this guy’s meticulousness and credulity.

    Rest assured @Zhenzidan you already won, don’t waste your time.

    No worries, getting bored with this Circuit Breaker, a lot of restrictions but plenty of time to spare. So just keep fucking this PAP ass-licker. You think I have won, but this ass-licker don’t want to admit. So come lah!

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  • Papig IB go eat shit:

    Looks like papigs not getting their money’s worth.
    Cannot even spell their fake moniker properly.
    Just like their paymaster–impotent.

    Impotence?????:
    Waliao eh! Take so many posts to realize importance and impotence.
    Speaking about this guy’s meticulousness and credulity.

    Rest assured @Zhenzidan you already won, don’t waste your time.

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