Why do I not think having 12 NCMPs will do

1. Big questions and challenges face Singapore in a COVID-19 (and eventually post COVID-19) world.

2. In the economic sphere – beyond the immediate question of preserving jobs – how do we ensure health, income and wealth security for all the population, particularly those below the median.

3. These may involve directional changes and the re-examination of long-held beliefs.

4. Indeed, PM Lee himself has called COVID-19 a “hinge”.

5. For such a debate, the opposition has a role and for it to be credible, it must have an electoral foundation.

6. The views of 12 “losers” in Parliament will carry no weight with the PAP government, regardless of their voting rights.

Hence, with respect, I disagree with Minister Indranee Rajah’s contention that having 12 NCMPs will do.

In my humble view, the opposition needs a reasonable number of elected members to do its job.

Conversely, the PAP does not need an overwhemining number of seats to form an effective government.

Note that this argument is not based on taking, or not taking, up the NCMP places.

 

Lian Chuan Yeoh

 

 

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31 Responses to “Why do I not think having 12 NCMPs will do”

  • DavidNeo&IreneVanessa:Eatshit:

    More opposition not NCMPs.

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  • TemusikPatriot:

    as usual talking SHIT

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  • Tremendous:

    Indra can step down from elections and apply for NCMP if the role is really this good. Have to say she is a smart female puppy, I try not to use coarse language.

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  • oxygen:

    QUESTION TIME INSIDE PARLIAMENT is choked up with limitations of how many questions can be asked by Opposition and subject to balloting. PAPpy MPs just saturate the Question Time opening by filing “ownself-check-ownself” and “ownself-praise-ownself” (such as $23,250 per capita spending of “generous support” from PAPpynomics’ Covid-19 fightback when peasants can wait long long for see that amount of money credited to their banking account) slots to crowd out Opposition voices in parliamentary sessions.

    PAPpypolitics in domination turned Parliament House into a “sleeping” rest house and if awake turned it into a WAYANG HOUSE if it continue like this without strong numbers of opposition members sitting in the house at question time.

    PAPpypolitics MPs wants to collect MP allowance – sleeping in that HOUSE OF MOST EXPENSIVE BUT MOSTLY USELESS DECORATIONS.

    Outside Parliament, PAPpypolitics institute strange restriction rules to obstruct Opposition MPs from conducting their meet-the-people sessions.

    it is disgusting and most peasants unaware.

    DON’T BELIEVE ME? JUST ASK THE OPPOSITION MPs during the election walkabout. My informed sources are reliable.

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  • BillyMa:

    Candidates standing on PAP platform do it for their career & self enrichment (almost guaranteed to add many zeros to their bank accounts).

    Whereas, candidates for the opposition parties do it to serve. There’s almost nothing to gain going against lhl.

    Singaporeans should note the behaviour of lhl & ss chan.
    Look how ruthless lhl goes after his family members. This is a mark of a self righteous, self praise selfish person.

    Ss chan? The way & words he used to insult Singaporeans about the face mask issue shows what an arrogant person he is.
    If he can openly insult Singaporeans, you can guess what he says behind closed door.

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  • BillyMa:

    PAP almost give up regaining Aljunied GRC. Just look at the characters they nominated & no PAP big guns dare to step into this battle field.
    And lhl tells anybody who bother to listen to him, how great & brave his candidates are.

    East Coast GRC must be in great danger to PAP. that’s why they put Heng’s head on the block. Vote for WP & you lose the next PM.

    Without lky, did Singapore collapse? Goh choke tong step down, did the country collapse?
    Will Singapore with lhl gone?
    So what makes Heng so special.

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  • ganeshsk:

    The 12 NCMP seats have been reserved for PAP. and rules changed so they too can keep voting in parliament which is of course useless just like the last 50 years, So don’t mind I rajah

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  • People Angry with PAP:

    “Hence, with respect, I disagree with Minister Indranee Rajah’s contention that having 12 NCMPs will do.”

    You are so polite. PAP is treating we citizens as ignorant morons.

    With only 12 NCMP, PAP will win in every issue in Parliament. They can do anything they want. They want to cancel elections forever? Also can.

    People, give ourselves a strong mandate. Make PAP a minority government. Make PAP scared of us, then they will respect us.

    Stand tall. Don’t let ministers call us sia suay. Don’t give face to a party that treat us as ignorant morons.

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  • Let us Make this country NK:

    Let us all vote PAP.
    Give them every seat.
    Scrapped the useless wayang NCMP.
    Make us same us NKorea.
    Give LKY grandson the throne.
    Stop pretending to be a democracy.
    Then at least we do not have to live as hypocrites.
    Scrap GE too.
    Long Live The Emperor!
    Option on Ballot–a]pap,b]oppo c]Dynasty Rule.
    I will tick [C]

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  • trublu:

    ah,forget NCMP,its wayang!
    same for NMP.

    get yourselves the REAL MPs,vote wisely for DIVERSITY N CHECKS N BALANCE N A VOICE FOR THE VOICELSS SGS suffering meekly!

    VOTE ALTERNATIVE MPs!

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Why not just do away with election all together, PAP can rule forever. PAP can appoint NCMPs any number you like. PAP can appoint equal number of NCMPs with the number of PAP’s MPs.

    Minister Indranee Rajah thinks Singaporeans are stupid, voters are stupid!!!

    Please give some respect to Singaporeans and voters. Not only PAP’s members have the right to be smart!!!!

    Democracy is not POFMA.

    I know why Minister Indranee thinks Singaporeans are stupid. That’s because no one says anything about temperature scanning at shopping malls. Most, if not all shopping malls, reduced their entrances/exits to only one to facilitate temperature scanning, resulted in inconvenience to shoppers having to go through the maze of barricade.

    I am sure everyone knows that Covid-19 is asymptomatic, even the taskforce calls it symptom-less, so why the taskforce recommended temperature checking. If the disease can be checked by temperature, than that is the symptom!!!

    Why Singaporeans are stupid is because the leaders are stupid!!

    Singaporeans please show our ministers, we are smart, at the polling booths!

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  • MarBowling:

    This IndraKnee Jerk is very snobbish and arrogant. She THINKS too highly of herself. She MUST be damn confident that her PAPigs will be able to obtain the same 2015 GE 69.9% or even higher!

    Heaven has eyes. Voters of Tanjong Pagar GRC should show their Middle Finger to her and that USELESS BUM CCS(Cotton Comes from Sheep)bugger in the coming Pandemic ERECTION. Blady sh*t spewing from her SMELLY Mouth:12 NCMPs will do!

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  • Dun Bluff Mi U Tink I 2pid?:

    Don’t waste time with NCMP lah. Just get elected into parliament with full voting rights!

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  • "What goes around comes...":

    Straits Times: Singapore GE2020: Murali Pillai criticises attack on his family made ‘minutes after’ nomination papers filed

    Murali should not complain. During the campaigning for 2016 by-election at Bukit Batok (between Murali and Dr Chee) PAP Tharman and SDP Paul Tambyah met each other and both agreed on a “clean fight”. Right after this PM Lee started personal attacks on Dr Chee. So much for a “clean fight”. LHL is just like his father. Did LKY ever believe in a “clean fight”?

    This time Murali is just getting the payback he deserves. As the saying goes “what goes around comes around”.

    Bukit Batok voters should do Murali a favor by voting him out of Parliament so he has more time to spend with his family so they are not victimized again and/or also do not commit another offense. VTO.

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  • Are you alright?:

    "What goes around comes...":
    Straits Times: Singapore GE2020: Murali Pillai criticises attack on his family made ‘minutes after’ nomination papers filed

    Murali should not complain. During the campaigning for 2016 by-election at Bukit Batok (between Murali and Dr Chee) PAP Tharman and SDP Paul Tambyah met each other and both agreed on a “clean fight”. Right after this PM Lee started personal attacks on Dr Chee. So much for a “clean fight”. LHL is just like his father. Did LKY ever believe in a “clean fight”?

    This time Murali is just getting the payback he deserves. As the saying goes “what goes around comes around”.

    Bukit Batok voters should do Murali a favor by voting him out of Parliament so he has more time to spend with his family so they are not victimized again and/or also do not commit another offense. VTO.

    These MFcukers are getting a taste of their own medicine.

    They have been throwing poison darts since since old man’s days. Remember how Chiam modest O level results was compared with Marlboro tan’s straight As.

    Now kbkp

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  • Cotton Chan the BullSheep:

    Most Singaporeans insist one party rule.
    Getting more and more like China.
    Only Singapore is the country most like China political system wise and citizen thinking wise.

    I hope WP has time to give examples how having WP in parliament since aljunied GRC
    was won that their debates have resulted in PAP making or tweaking policies that benefitted the timid Singaporeans.

    Else this GE could see no opposition MP left in parliament.
    Then we have a chinaPore

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  • PAP admits:

    They say let the 12 NCMPs be your voice in Parliament.

    The rest are rubber stamps and loud hailers for the party.

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  • drain the swamp..:

    vote Jteo Out as well..after her groups nomination speech 30/6 2pm approx ..she exclaimed with fist in the air ” Majulah PAP , Majula Singapura!
    notice she uttered Majulah PAP first..what does that say about her greedy miw party?

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  • Real deal:

    Better get the real deal.
    !2 Opposition MP then NCMP.
    More effective.

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  • ganeshsk:

    The 12 NCMP posts is reserved for the PAP

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    Quote 1 -It was reported on Straits Times website published on 18th Feb 2018 as this – “Disputing this, Deputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean had said that Pasir Ris Punggol Town Council handed more than $22.5 millions in cash to the WP run town council which was now unaccounted for.” Unquote1.

    Response : Low TK traumatic head injury that he suffered at home on 30th April 2020 landed him in the intensive care unit for days. And now he appears none the worse for wear. If he didn’t lose his brain, his ability of speech, and is mobile, then why is he not contesting this election when he is needed most? Giving opportunity to develop younger new opportunity leaders is just an excuse to get out only. And what about the other two veterans of Chen Show Mao and Png Eng Huat not contesting also? Of course, some people may tell me smart people will not want to contest this GE. For there are $33.7 million AHTC improper payment managed by beast woman Selvia Lim and her beast friend Ms How Weng Fan totally not repaid in full or at all yet.

    What about the Punggol East “missing funds” of $22.5 millions?
    According to en. M. Wikipedia. org – Lee Li Lian, WP, make her political debut on the 2011 election where she contested single seat Punggol East. She lost but win during the 2013′s by election of Punggol East and served as MP of Punggol East for WP  and the period is 26th January 2013- 11st September 2015.Punggol East came under its Aljunied Hougang.

    PAP Charles Chong won back Punggol East SMC during 2015 General Election replacing Lee Li Lian. And thereafter  started the battle for the missing of $22.5 millions missing Punggol East funds.

    The issue of the “missing funds” first surfaced during the 2015 General Election, after Workers Party chief Low Thia Khiang said that Punggol East was in deficit when the WP took over the single member constituency following the “by election”.

    1)2015 General Election time highlight problem of $22.5 missing Punggol Funds by Low TK.
    2)Read the Quote1 above fully.
    3)Few years later, and the ST reported  out on 19th February 2018 – Mr Png said the KPMG audit exercise indicated there was “no such missing money” in the first place. 

    So what has exactly happened to $22.5 million missing funds. Teo chee Hean say Pasir Ris Punggol Town Council handed more than $22.5 million in “CASH” to WP run town council ! Is it taken over by WP MP Lee Li Lian? Cannot be passed over in cash also no receipt and no person collected right? Why pass huge money $22.5 million in cash in modern day? Cannot use safe way of bank transfer without worry of big thief? If Lee Li Lian has taken over the cash, then question out where is the money of $22.5 millions? $22.5 millions is  not convincing answered yet by both WP and PAP. Why Lee Li Lian shut up without explanation till today? Look like LLL is another PAP spy, I may be wrong. So who did PPTC pass cash to WP? Ask Teo Chee Hean will know the answer. No missing money now? Pui!

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  • opposition dude:

    Indranee doesn’t even realise just how stupid she is. She is so intent on not having any opposition in parliament she actually is stupid enough to say it out directly ha ha ha!

    What the PAP doesn’t want should be given to them in spades! After all they didn’t care 2 hoots about us when they raised transport fares yearly or selling overprices BTOs which need up to 25 years to pay off right?

    Or how about increasing the population up to the last reported figure of 5.8 million? It’s definitely over 5.8 million by now for sure. And how about our retrenched PMETs forced to be security guards and Grab drivers?

    So, 12 NCMPs ah? How about we make all of PAP NCMPs too? Let them yak on and on but no voting allowed, how about that?

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  • East Coast Voters:

    East Coast voters can safely vote for WP.

    If Heng is that important, PAP will call a by-election in a SMC for Heng to get back in. It is a standard practice in democratic elections.

    If Heng doesn’t get back in, e.g., in the case of George Yeo, it only means that such persons are not vital to the party. Expendable.

    East Coast voters, make history!

    BillyMa:
    PAP almost give up regaining Aljunied GRC. Just look at the characters they nominated & no PAP big guns dare to step into this battle field.
    And lhl tells anybody who bother to listen to him, how great & brave his candidates are.

    East Coast GRC must be in great danger to PAP. that’s why they put Heng’s head on the block. Vote for WP & you lose the next PM.

    Without lky, did Singapore collapse? Goh choke tong step down, did the country collapse?
    Will Singapore with lhl gone?
    So what makes Heng so special.

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  • Wake Up Indranee:

    Its time Indranee wake up her farking idea. She still think that Singaporeans are that stupid. KNNBCCB

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  • Big gamble:

    Big gamble for DPM Heng to come to East Coast GRC…
    Our future PM is at stake.
    Interesting to see the outcome.
    A good test for DPM Heng…
    Let the people of East Coast GRC decide Singapore Future.
    May the best team wins….Vote wisely.

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  • Errr..........:

    PAP admits:
    They say let the 12 NCMPs be your voice in Parliament.

    The rest are rubber stamps and loud hailers for the party.

    Ncmp is second class.

    Unlike wife, mistress has no status and claim to assets and home. Just for the man’s fun lah.

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  • Bird brain woman:

    drain the swamp..:
    vote Jteo Out as well..after her groups nomination speech 30/6 2pm approx ..she exclaimed with fist in the air ” Majulah PAP , Majula Singapura!
    notice she uttered Majulah PAP first..what does that say about her greedy miw party?

    This small space xxx woman goes to safe house in JB.

    Nevertheless still boot this useless monkey out for our future sake.

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  • Be REAL:

    Ncmps are like barking dogs which cannot bite lah!

    Indomee, we are not 5 years old.

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  • Is SG to be China model?:

    The writings are all over the wall, imho.
    1. A worlds most reluctant democracy.
    2. A worlds most insincere democracy.
    3. They can change the whole Constitution without opposition able to block anything.
    So is USA a reason why they have yet done so?
    4. Mathematically, what is the equivalent to have what they want without being a dictatorship like china?
    To me, the mathematical equivalent can be described as giving you democracy without democracy so that on paper sg is called a democracy.
    Their mathematical equivalent : NCMP.

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  • Is SG to be China model?:

    China govt also operates by defining what they define as the truth as the truth, regardless

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  • Shuan Bay:

    It is again misleading rhetotic from pap. NCMP is limited in power, NOT the same as MP. Best ‘losers’ is a negative connotation to start with.
    Check NCMP: they do not have Voting rights to Amend the Constitution.

    Ministers who lie to voters that NCMP is the same should be voted out!

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