DPM Heng Swee Keat was at least open and sympathetic to an eventual 10 million population in Singapore

I agree with Andrew Loh that it can reasonably be inferred from the ST article below that DPM Heng Swee Keat at his talk on March 2019 was at least open and sympathetic to an eventual 10 million population in Singapore.

As I wrote, this is not only poor economics, but also harmful for real wage growth, wealth and income inequality, citizen well being, productivity and social divisiveness.

To repeat, this is toying with a poorly thought through vision that could well make Singapore more like Dubai and less like the Switzerland of our now forgotten dreams.

It is therefor much appreciated that the National Population and Talent Division of the PMO has since recently clarified that “The Government has not proposed, planned nor targeted for Singapore to increase its population to 10 million.”

However, given our pre Covid trajectory of 1.5 to 2% labour force growth, we could easily drift towards and eventually end up with more than 6.9 million and even close to 10 million population by 2050 according to IPS demographic projections.

Methinks therefor that Minister Vivian protesteth too quickly and too much, based on too little understanding of these economic tendencies.

IMHO it is entirely reasonable for Dr Chee to ask him to clarify again publicly and give reassurance of the government’s policy and resolve not to allow such a 10 mln policy outcome given DPM Heng’s recent reported glib statements and underlying economic trends.

I fear this shows both Minister Vivian and DPM Heng underestimate the policy and concrete policy measures eg clear immigration quotas and constant policy resolve needed to prevent us creeping towards such an inimical population scenario over the long term.

 

Yeoh Lam Keong

 

* Facebook post by Mr Yeoh Lam Keong, ex-GIC chief economist and adjunct professor at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy.

 

 

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26 Responses to “DPM Heng Swee Keat was at least open and sympathetic to an eventual 10 million population in Singapore”

  • Sojoürner:

    The potential growth rate of an economy is roughly determined — and limited — by the sum of two factors: population and productivity.

    The question is, does the old rule about the scaling of the annual growth rate of the economy with the population growth rate still apply in the presence of exponentially improving automation? With automation steadily reducing the need for human labour, don’t the two things decouple at some point?

    At some point population growth would have to become counter-productive to any economy as there are more people struggling to find fewer jobs or having to make do with jobs with pay that does not meet standard living expenses, not to mention the continued destruction of the natural environment due to so many more people requiring more resources and producing ever more pollution that poisons the environment that supports all of us.

    We need to figure out a new economic paradigm where population decreases rather than increases in order to keep our space livable.

    No nation, no matter how exceptional, can try to grow faster than economic forces allow without the risk of provoking a volatile boom-bust cycle.

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  • All the Emperor's eunuchs:

    (I fear this shows both Minister Vivian and DPM Heng underestimate the policy and concrete policy measures eg clear immigration quotas and constant policy resolve needed to prevent us creeping towards such an inimical population scenario over the long term.)

    Headless chicken SARS – Severe Acute Retrograde Syndrome – Fumbling bumbling bamboozling falsehoods ….

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  • PAP MP Murali's son is in jail:

    The big and only relevant issue that makes regime change compelling is the PAP’s lack of openness and transparency and therefore REAL accountability. this applies to all PAP members from LKY down to HSK. Why? Because PAP wants to be able hide its mistakes so it cannot be held accountable. It also makes it difficult if not impossible to question the policies and decisions made by PAP and its spineless stooges in the civil service.

    Lastly, Bukit Batok voters should “help” their PAP MP Murali Pillai. His family had (or still has problems) so bad that his son is now in jail. He needs to spend more time with his family and prepare for his son’s release from prison. This is best done if he is not an MP. Consequently, Bukit Batok voters should vote for his opponent Dr Chee soon Juan of SDP so Murali will lose and he can retire from politics to spend more time with his family. “Help” Murali by throwing him out of Parliament.

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  • Be humble and serve:

    The hard truth is that the G is not prepared or willing to provide full data and information and involve all interested parties even though the policy issue at hand like target population has great impacts on the people and their livelihoods and quality of life.

    Planning and policy decisions are done very much by the inner circle inside closed doors to suit certain hidden agenda.

    You can’t blame the citizenry for being nervous and curious about such issues which affect them deeply and directly.

    We need oppositions to help us to get accountability and transparency from the G.

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  • PAPs are no gentlemen:

    PAP said Dr Chee has not changed, will not change and cannot change”.

    why must he change? change for what and for who? …the PAP way?

    in the same way, PAP has not changed, cannot change and will not change” as well, their arrogant and bullying ways.

    who is worse? let the citizens be the judge.

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  • trublu:

    Oh come on,if at the govt level,they do not nod their heads,you think LIU THAI KER CAN ANYHOW SAY?

    Liu Thai Ker is symnonymous with PAP ELITE CLASS N what he says,carry some good measire of weight.Even lky listened intently to him.

    LW even came out n mentioned building UNDERGROUND,didnt he?

    I am sure,me no expert,that the current LAND SPACE can absorb 6.9 million but not much more.
    So,to say theyintend to build UNDERGEOUND imies they are looking at a number much HIGHER N 10 MILLION IS A LOGICAL GUESSTIMATE ni thought so too?
    I dare say many shs think so too.
    So?

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  • Who lied?:

    “It is therefor much appreciated that the National Population and Talent Division of the PMO has since recently clarified that “The Government has not proposed, planned nor targeted for Singapore to increase its population to 10 million.””

    NPTD denied 10 million.

    NOTE: NPTD did not deny 6.9 million.

    BUT that Vivian said Singaporean will NEVER reach 6.9 million.

    Something not right. Someone is lying.

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  • opposition dude:

    Let’s make this really simple based on what we have seen of PAP’s population growth in the last decade or so.

    FACT 1. There were 5.11 million people on the island back in 2011 if you can remember. It was also because of this number that the island felt overcrowded everywhere we went.

    FACT 2. The last reported figure was 5.81 million in either 2018 or 2019. You can roughly see how many non Singaporeans were let in during this time period.

    I don’t know about you but this sure isn’t “significantly less than 6.9 million” like PAP has claimed. In fact, there is NO way that the PAP will NOT increase the population on the island past 5.81 million. You just have to wait for the next census report to see how much it has grown.

    And since we all know that the population will increase as the years pass why is it so hard to believe that PAP has the intentions for 10 million? Of course they will say that the 10 million is false since it’s election time in 6 days, PAP wouldn’t be THAT stupid as to admit the 10 million figure which would definitely cost them politically.

    Just give them a few years from now and don’t be surprised when they start hinting at something close to 10 million would be ideal for SIngapore. This is PAP, when they say 10 million they sure as hell will do it!

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  • Harder Truths:

    To keep their Ponzi scheme going, the leeders HAVE to INCREASE imported foreigners. It is not a matter of choice for them – it is their survival.

    Imported foreigners create loans, investments, higher prices, more demand for limited goods and services, lower costs for FT companies, spend on public healthcare, schools, universities and bring in MORE FOREIGNERS.

    wash, rinse, repeat.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Sojoürner:

    My learned friend, you have an interesting observation there on technology likely (at some point in time) decoupling of needed labor input and implicitly population size relevance to achievable growth rate of economy.

    Sojoürner: The potential growth rate of an economy is roughly determined — and limited — by the sum of two factors: population and productivity.

    The question is, does the old rule about the scaling of the annual growth rate of the economy with the population growth rate still apply in the presence of exponentially improving automation? With automation steadily reducing the need for human labour, don’t the two things decouple at some point?

    Here is an interesting hypothesis – “Internet of Everything” is everywhere except in the productivity statistics.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/06/why-is-technology-not-boosting-productivity/

    I surmise these reasons – firstly, it is measurement problem if you define productivity as …generating more output per unit of labor input. It can’t be productivity gain when people are working massively overtime – unpaid at home (even in office doing Google search, update emails, adding new column to technology-driven spreadsheet and online chatting on Whatsapp with their own doctors etc. it is TECHNOLOGY WORKING OVERTIME AND MORE INTENSELY ADDING TO BETTER QUALITY OUTPUT, MAYBE BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE GENERALLY but no more value-priced output – especially if your competitor sells the same output at cheaper prices forcing you to match.

    In other words, technology driven productivity is illusory and self-cancellation by competitive counter-actions. Newer upgraded technology keep pricing down and not adding to the final value of output for its developer or user. It is same like – why do owners of luxury yatch don’t enjoy their pleasure boat? It is because they spend more time upkeep its maintenance.

    Why do people living in big houses isn’t happy after a while. Their neighbors upstage them or/and too tiring to maintain that monster.

    So in all calculus, the impact of technology on productivity is exaggerated IMHO.

    So what is real output measured in GDP yardstick? I offer this simplistic modeling

    GDP = qty of money X velocity of circulation.

    Qty of money is a function of population size, earning income and velocity of circulation is a function of consumer spending, again a function of population size.

    Why?

    Because people consumed most of their income on food, accommodation, healthcare and leisure leaving small portion to saving.

    SO GDP GROWTH = population + immigration + productivity growth.

    Productivity is technology assisted, population size loaded up with immigration.

    When productivity fall, reliance on immigration in substitution is unsustainable for long.

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  • oxygen:

    VB IS A DISTINGUISHED EYE DOCTOR, not an economist of profession. HSK should have been there but if he was there and defending the PAPpy’s population economics -augmented by massive immigration input modeling – Jamus Lim is there to chew him up to pieces.

    No economy can grow relying on foreign immigration influx in substitution of falling productivity and slowing population growth. There will be too many hungry people looking for too few jobs and competing for far fewer resources available (output measure) – everything will be very expensive and the country competitiveness is eroded to no sustainable survival for long.

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  • Numbers not critical:

    The population numbers is not critical.
    What is important that enough decent jobs with reasonable pay be created for Singaporean to survive and take care of their family.
    And also Singaporean are trained for such jobs…
    Singaporean First…if not enough jobs for Singaporean …then FW/FT numbers needs to reduce.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Who lied?

    BOTH NPTD & VIVIAN ARE LYING WHOLESALE – the Population White Paper was targeting 6.9 million by 2030.

    National fertility rate is 1.09 percent or thereabout. If augmented by immigration influx to bolster to an annualised compounded growth rate of just under 2% together, WE WILL DEFINITELY HIT 10 million in 20 years from 2030.

    JUST CHECK THE COMPOUNDING INTEREST RATE FACTOR OF 2% OVER 20 PERIODS, the growth factor calculated is 1.4X the base which is exactly 10 million divided by 6.9 million population base targeted by 2030.

    Who lied?: “It is therefor much appreciated that the National Population and Talent Division of the PMO has since recently clarified that “The Government has not proposed, planned nor targeted for Singapore to increase its population to 10 million.””

    NPTD denied 10 million.

    NOTE: NPTD did not deny 6.9 million.

    BUT that Vivian said Singaporean will NEVER reach 6.9 million.

    Something not right. Someone is lying.

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  • other pressing topics:

    next hot topic is hdb value falling to zero worth..and our cpf being locked up .
    who will take the lead and speak up on these issues?

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  • Attn: Nicole Seah:

    Nicole Seah, do think positively if you want to change Singapore. In Chinese battle field strategy: Capture the general and the whole army will collapse. What is left will be your victory. Same as in Politics. PAP has been self admitting with total arrogance no less than Trump saying that if he shoots a man pointblank in the 5th Avenue, he will get away with it (a moronic wild dream)that they are NOT accountable as in their minds accountability is only between children and parents and not between govt and citizenry. Ask any primary school children and they will tell you it is moronic and if you tell them who said it, they will fashionably yell Kick them out.

    Accountability comes with responsibility. In other words PAP openly admitted that they have no sense of what responsibility is and that it comes with the trust of people mandates offered and they have to be accountable for all they did.

    A candidate waiting to lead such a party is already a loser and to take him down should be no complication if you syn well with the electorate and convince them you are different!

    Nicole, do not for God sake think that your party is putting you up as a sacrificial lamb but rather thinking you a capable, dedicated to the cause and confident candidate bestowed with the honour of taking down the half incapacitated general and demolished the entire degenerated, arrogant, wealth focused FthGPAP with no sense of responsibility and accountability that comes with the mandate from the citizenry. Just imagine, take down Heng, you will have achieved the honour and service to Singaporeans even before you take the oath of serving Singaporeans and the nation before party and yourself only by keeping yourself well glued to what you have started with as you tell the constituents.

    So Nicole, go and take down the sick general and demolished the evil that has been infused into the nation by senseless, arrogant and self focussed political trash with no human decency or shame on denying responsibility and accountability.

    East Coast is well behind you. Show your commitments, courage and enthusiasm and you will NOT fail to defeat the would be leader of a self proclaimed zero accountability aka no sense of responsibility and no understanding of the oath they sworn on the heads of their God, faith or savour FthGPAP cohort!

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  • East Coast Voters:

    If I were in East Coast, I would definitely vote WP.

    Even if PAP offers double or triple $23,225, not to mention they only offer $600.

    It is a once in a life time opportunity to change history. Forever and ever, Singaporeans will be proud of East Coast.

    Do it, man. I will kiss every street in sacred East Coast.

    Attn: Nicole Seah:
    Nicole Seah, do think positively if you want to change Singapore. In Chinese battle field strategy: Capture the general and the whole army will collapse. What is left will be your victory. Same as in Politics. PAP has been self admitting with total arrogance no less than Trump saying that if he shoots a man pointblank in the 5th Avenue, he will get away with it (a moronic wild dream)that they are NOT accountable as in their minds accountability is only between children and parents and not between govt and citizenry. Ask any primary school children and they will tell you it is moronic and if you tell them who said it, they will fashionably yell Kick them out.

    Accountability comes with responsibility. In other words PAP openly admitted that they have no sense of what responsibility is and that it comes with the trust of people mandates offered and they have to be accountable for all they did.

    A candidate waiting to lead such a party is already a loser and to take him down should be no complication if you syn well with the electorate and convince them you are different!

    Nicole, do not for God sake think that your party is putting you up as a sacrificial lamb but rather thinking you a capable, dedicated to the cause and confident candidate bestowed with the honour of taking down the half incapacitated general and demolished the entire degenerated, arrogant, wealth focused FthGPAP with no sense of responsibility and accountability that comes with the mandate from the citizenry. Just imagine, take down Heng, you will have achieved the honour and service to Singaporeans even before you take the oath of serving Singaporeans and the nation before party and yourself only by keeping yourself well glued to what you have started with as you tell the constituents.

    So Nicole, go and take down the sick general and demolished the evil that has been infused into the nation by senseless, arrogant and self focussed political trash with no human decency or shame on denying responsibility and accountability.

    East Coast is well behind you. Show your commitments, courage and enthusiasm and you will NOT fail to defeat the would be leader of a self proclaimed zero accountability aka no sense of responsibility and no understanding of the oath they sworn on the heads of their God, faith or savour FthGPAP cohort!

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  • Sojoürner:

    oxygen: @ Sojoürner:

    My learned friend, you have an interesting observation there on technology likely (at some point in time) decoupling of needed labor input and implicitly population size relevance to achievable growth rate of economy.

    So in all calculus, the impact of technology on productivity is exaggerated IMHO.

    So what is real output measured in GDP yardstick? I offer this simplistic modeling

    GDP = qty of money X velocity of circulation.

    Qty of money is a function of population size, earning income and velocity of circulation is a function of consumer spending, again a function of population size.
    Why?

    Because people consumed most of their income on food, accommodation, healthcare and leisure leaving small portion to saving.

    SO GDP GROWTH = population + immigration + productivity growth.

    Productivity is technology assisted, population size loaded up with immigration.

    When productivity fall, reliance on immigration in substitution is unsustainable for long.

    My case is, it may be good for businesses to eliminate repetitive and menial jobs by automation to increase productivity, but it also killed the employment market and sapped the enterprising mind of people.

    The only question is how we manage the transition to an economy where work is no longer so important a determinant in the distribution of wealth, which will be created mostly by machines.

    The politics of this transition will probably be difficult but the issue will be forced as an increasing fraction of the available labor force is made redundant.

    So what is real output measured in GDP yardstick?

    GDP is corrected for inflation but not population growth. It would be better to correct by calculating GDP per capita, but even that does not take into account the entire effect of population growth. Much GDP growth per capita is necessary just to counteract the noxious effects of overcrowding. As the population grows higher GDP per capita is needed for a given quality of life, because it requires more GDP per person to live at a given quality of life in cities than in the country-side, where the environment provides higher quality of life for free!

    The unpleasant arithmetic is compounded by the fact that GDP does not really measure economic well-being.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Sojourner

    Innovation is not the cure-all wonder solution to civilisation’s progress. It has been around for centuries from electricity (energy) distribution to locomotive to supersonic air travel. It merely changes the way we live and remobilise economic efforts including cannibalising employment, redistribute opportunities and income, mostly unevenly and unexpectedly,

    Even the heart surgeons might be redundant one day. Israelis scientists “grow” blood vessel.

    https://www.israel21c.org/scientists-develop-protein-to-regrow-blood-vessels/

    Gilead Sciences discovered wonder Hep. C cure, priced it at US$84,000 per dose in 2014.

    https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/gilead-sciences-prices-sovaldi-india-at-a-tiny-fraction-of-u-s-cost

    Within weeks, generic drug manufacturers came out to offer generic at a fraction.

    After a few years, Gilead Science is forced to offer its own generic Sovaldi at huge discount of $24K to its own original.

    https://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20180924/NEWS/180929949/gilead-to-launch-generic-versions-of-hepatitis-c-drugs

    Why?

    Look at its share price chart for the last 5 years, it is IN THE DUMP after putting Sovaldi on market in 2014/2015.

    TWO LESSONS LEARNT

    - technology is self-cannibalising i.e. there is always a “better” mobile phone similar to electric car displacing internal combustion engine car to maybe self-driving car to completely automated underground mining operations like this one.

    https://www.mining-technology.com/features/sizing-syama-worlds-first-fully-automated-mine/

    Syama is NOT PERFORMING, btw.

    - second lesson – THE FUTURE FAVORS GOOD ASSET TRADERS

    The collorary follows is that highly skilled labor is not sheltered from redundancy as a result of technological innovation.

    Just like you said, automation displaced jobs. I am sure EV displacing ICE car industry is going to decimate the shale oil/gas sector and oil production/rig marine business etc etc

    BIG POPULATION ECONOMIC IS DINOSAUR voodo economics, worst still, when massive labor influx is used to substitute falling technology productivity – just like stupid PAPpynomics is doing now.

    A lot of hungry desperation awaiting in very expensive living ahead.

    Sojoürner: My case is, it may be good for businesses to eliminate repetitive and menial jobs by automation to increase productivity, but it also killed the employment market and sapped the enterprising mind of people.

    The only question is how we manage the transition to an economy where work is no longer so important a determinant in the distribution of wealth, which will be created mostly by machines.

    The politics of this transition will probably be difficult but the issue will be forced as an increasing fraction of the available labor force is made redundant.

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  • Soccerbetting2:

    @East Coast voters:Quote – “Even if PAP offers double or triple $23,225, not to mention they only offer $600.

    It is a once in a life time opportunity to change history. Forever and ever, Singaporeans will be proud of East Coast.

    Do it, man. I will kiss every street in sacred East Coast.”Unquote.

    Response :The worse thing is that after they did not give $22,235 but give only between $600 – $1300 Cash only yet Tkn Pei Ling can quote out a lie figure of $22,235 given per capita (per person). Pui! Pui! Pui! Maybe “integrity” and “honest” person Heng Swee Keat can explain the lie from Tin Pei Ling for us to understand better? If what Tin Pei Ling cannot be explained clear enough, there will forever be speculations and Heng, who is a former policeman if I did not remember wrongly, then why didn’t Heng immediately handcuff Tin Pei Ling and arrested her himself for lying a fake figure of $22,235 figure when people did not get the whole sum of $22,235. Law by Law, right Mr Heng? Is it that nowadays that policeman don’t need to follow law by law?

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  • oxygen:

    THE 10 MILLION POPULATION is town planning orgasmic wet dream shared by stupid PAPpynomics of insanity self-delusion just like that Swiss standard of living fart of fiction.

    A cave-in resulting from geological instability could wipe out most of those habitating underground and collapsing structures above ground toppling over each other like a pack of cards.

    Out of 10 million population, 9.6 million or more died in Lee-jiapore in an earthquake in Indonesia?

    Mining industry knows that excavated rock formation gravely disturbed its stability.

    https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20100104/pdf/31n0zz09vkm222.pdf

    The above link is a legally-mandated announcement released to the Australian stock exchange on the collapse of an actual drilling operation in the Timor Sea on 4 January 2010 from ASX-listed Pan Pacific Petroleum (PPP)

    PPP reported significant cave-in whilst drilling and logging some 3,785m in depth of rock formation below the Timor Sea of Lolotoe-1.

    It is only a 12 and 1/4 hole diameter in size.

    IT HAD TO BE ABANDONED.

    This is no fake news, the weblink is from the Australian Stock exchange database.

    PAPpypolitics is either MORONICALLY CLUELESS or RECKLESSLY INDIFFERENT OF GEOLOGICAL RISKS in its insane drive for 10 million population recycling economics (substituting locals with cheaper foreign influx undercutting productivity)

    ONE IDIOT CALLED THAT CHEAPER FASTER AND BETTER hypocritical mantra when population recycling economics is cheaper, NO FASTER AND DEFINITELY NOT BETTER.

    Now at election time, they denied having this wet dream.

    How to trust them like this??

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  • oxygen:

    Ooops, typo error there, sorry

    oxygen: It is only a 12 and 1/4 hole diameter in size.

    should be read as

    oxygen: It is only a 12 and 1/4 hole INCHES diameter in size.

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Has a “Shackled” and lightning struck mind a CHOICE to say what he truly “THINK” or like a lalang sway with the wind…Wait till he receive “FULL POWER”…according to miss Vivien “Politics is POWER”…

    The wooden Goh when handed the baton speak of care & share…and yet when the Bastard COMMANDS innocent Christian Social workers were cast as Marxist CONspirators…

    “THINK” this idiot may have lost of his some of his thinking material after the lightning bolt but there are DEMons behind to write scripts for him lah!!!

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  • RButler:

    The 10 million population figure sounded like another “trial balloon”. One that was popped by Covid-19. The PAP should at least admit that they contributed to the ambiguity. The 10 million figure was not just a rumour. The fact that someone with the credentials of Liu floated the idea is one thing. Him being quoted with approval by HSK, who is no lightweight minister, is quite another. Then, the government did not respond to the general disquiet after the event, giving rise to the suspicion we were being told to suck it up PAP fashion. Ten million is not a appetising notion after Covid, and detrimental to the ruling party’s poll numbers. Hence the need to scapegoat the SDP. Anyone with half an education can see what happened. The PAP could have backpedalled without being nasty.

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  • Hu Chian:

    Quote,
    ” Once you allow your economy to become dependent on extremes of debt, leverage, inequality, legalized looting, monopoly, pay-to-play politics and speculative asset bubbles, a depression is inevitable.

    The pandemic lockdown will be blamed for the Greater Depression, but the lockdown only toppled all the dominoes that were already lined up. The lockdown would have been survivable if the economy hadn’t been over-indebted, over-leveraged, burdened by insanely high costs, stripmined by greedy monopolies, dependent on stock market fraud, destabilized by extreme inequality, corrupted by political pay-to-play and addicted to speculation.

    The apologists always blame depressions on central banks not printing money fast enough, while overlooking the real drivers: debt, high costs and dependence on speculative bubbles. As noted here many times, revenues and income can quickly slide lower, but debt must be serviced regardless of revenues and income.”

    Site,
    Of Two Minds – The Depression Dominoes Are Toppling
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogjune20/depression-dominoes6-20.html
    https://tbsnews.net/analysis/anatomy-crony-capitalism
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapr20/brittle-rackets4-20.html
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogmar17/unaffordable3-17.html

    Mass Distraction And Fake “V-Shaped” Recovery Provide Cover For The Fed Induced Crash
    http://www.alt-market.com/index.php/articles/4243-mass-distraction-and-fake-qv-shapedq-recovery-provide-cover-for-the-fed-induced-crash
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogapr20/no-recovery4-20.html

    Singapore’s credit bubble time bomb
    https://veritas-lux.blogspot.com/2014/04/singapores-credit-bubble-time-bomb.html
    http://veritas-lux.blogspot.com/2011/08/singapore-hyper-inflation-1-pap-wizards.html
    http://i-came-i-saw-i-solved-it.blogspot.com/search/label/Stupidest%20govt%20of%20all%20time
    http://i-came-i-saw-i-solved-it.blogspot.com/search/label/Why%20Singapore%20has%20no%20economy

    The Pandemic Isn’t Ending, It’s Just The Beginning Of …
    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/pandemic-isnt-ending-its-just-beginning-global-disorder-depression
    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/how-protect-yourself-long-term-pandemic-lockdown

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  • Nick:

    Heng and your team, please STOP propagating fear. Your main purpose is to completely wipe out ALL opposition and allow you and your team to do whatever you want without alternative views. This is the same tactics you used in GE2015 to obtain major vote for your team. Stop playing dirty.

    And why has Vivian told Jamus in the political debate that he read Jamus’ manifesto and said “and actually to be honest with you, we could have written it”. Vivian has the last 5 years in office and his cheap shot was that “we could have written it”? Well for the last 5 years, your team failed to write it. Vivian’s statement honestly has helped to illustrate what Workers’ Party stated clearly that there is an need to deny PAP a blank cheque.

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  • AristoCATs - Wow?:

    Papaya does not want to touch the hot-potato 10m population?
    Wow !
    -
    So, what was the Paper for?
    -
    Google “Population White Paper”
    -
    Motion in Parliament – overwhelmingly passed by Papaya.
    -
    Google Speech by Inderjit Singh against the Motion.
    -
    Remember the Ballot Box !

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