The conundrum of the 10 million population

This sensitive question had caused considerable consternation among Singaporeans when it was first brandished around some years ago but quite strangely it did not explode intensely and somehow became dormant to the peaceful mind of the PAP. Then to their dismay at the political parties debate on 1st July Dr. Chee Soon Juan of the Singapore Democratic Party suddenly posed this question of 10 million population for Singapore’s future to Dr. Vivian Balakrishnan of the PAP and could have caught the latter by surprise. This is where it shows the magnanimity or lack of it in the Minister in dealing with his opponent. Could it be so brazen to start by accusing Dr. Chee of spreading falsehood about the government targeting 10 million population for Singapore? Had it not occurred to the discerning Minister that multitude of Singaporeans had already heard of it and would it not be preposterous to suggest that Dr. Chee started the rumour?

Instead of blustering against Dr. Chee could not the Minister have shown more civility by simply clarifying the public misconception of the 10 million population in a more benign manner considering that it was already a public knowledge and not a rumour spread by Dr. Chee ? He could have strongly emphasised that it was not the intention of the government to target a 10 million population for Singapore and that certainly not from DPM Heng Swee Kiat. Otherwise this can easily spiral into something so titanic that it could be like a double-edged sword hanging over the PAP election campaign.

Dr. Chee had been portrayed as a scoundrel for starting a rumour and I think it is a great disservice to him by the government. He was only trying to perform his duty as a political opposition and should not be a subject of vilification. I am not a supporter of Dr. Chee and it may be true that he may not be an angel but as human being he deserves some respect for his self-esteem. I undertake to come to his defence because of my righteousness to stand up for an underdog from imperious attack.

I am sorry Dr. Vivian Balakhrishnan if my article hurts your feelings and I hope that there will not be any hard feelings.

 

Yoong Siew Wah

* The author was the director of Singapore’s Internal Security Department from 1971 to 1974. Before that, he was the director of the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau (CPIB). Mr Yoong is now retired and blogs at Singapore Recalcitrant.

 

 

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29 Responses to “The conundrum of the 10 million population”

  • oxygen:

    DR CHEE IS ABSOLUTELY right on historical facts, and assessed on politics, economics and geological perspective considerations of this 10 million population controversy.

    PAPpypolitics is rattled like a bird trapped in a (debating) cage.

    It is too late for PAPpypolitics to retract after silence for so long when the subject matter is long already widely discussed in public forum by well-placed informed professionals from different apolitical fields/sources.

    There is no differentiation of “truth/falsity” differentiation to suit anyone’s preferred political timing or ever changing political convenience of playing cat-and-mouse with election calculus.

    False is always false, truth is always truth – there can’t be anyone talking publicly of 10 million population thoughts if that subject-matter does not exists in his or her mind.

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  • Agreed:

    Dr. Vivian Balakhrishnan could has just clarified the 10M issue raised ..
    No need to attack Dr Chee personally…

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  • Hong Kong Hero First Run Road:

    Dear Yoong,
    You can come to SDP support for all you want but but all oppie is going to lose their pants aka deposit.

    We PAP.Guarantee.Win.GE20

    Dear Oppie, look at your Hong Kong Hero Joshua Wong and gang all run road after the National Security law is effected on 01 July 2020. Wahahahahahahahahaha

    I had facts.
    1. 原姿晴:精人走頭 傻仔送頭
    (Canto English translation: The smart run roan, the stupid go jail)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dniym7f8uS4
    2. 港獨頭目不顧支持者被抓落跑出國
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PEh6FhjTxs

    And our own gay boy Roy also run road to Taiwan to join PAP.(Poke Ass party)
    https://formosapride.com/

    Now, where is Oxygen and all Ang Mo Tua Kee who had been singing high praise of Joshua Wong and gang ?

    PAP.Guarantee.Win.GE20
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster.
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • Dr Tan Tai Wei:

    Seeming to defend Dr Chee against the “vilification” but at the same breath perpetuating it, asserting that Chee “might not be an angel”, thus alluding to and resurfacing all the long past denigrating by PAP of Chee’s character, apparently taking for granted the truth of those accusations of his purported “lying” and “cheating” but without detailing his defences. This seems to be doing the very thing Vivian and PAP seem to scheme to do. The details of those purported sins of Chee’s, and Chee’s explaining and defences, PAP knows younger voters now know nothing of and other voters have either forgotten or are not interested in now. Anyhow, there is neither time nor interest and point in discussing those hoary past cases now. So what is left are the innuendos of Vivian’s, and now this erstwhile ISD chief’s, adversely affecting Chee’s character in voters’ mind in absence of any knowing or discussing.

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  • REGIME CHANGE is the solution:

    Straits Times: Singapore GE2020: Covid-19 crisis should be focus of all parties, says Chan Chun Sing at half-time of GE campaign

    Another “red-herring” from PAP to distract voters for the REAL issues in the election which, inter-alia, include the following:

    1) Stagnant wages with high prices.

    2) Thousands of Singaporean PMETs have lost their job to “cheap” (no CPF) foreign workers. No job security for Singaporeans.

    3) Over-priced HDB flats which deplete CPF account of Singaporeans. Since LHL became PM the price of HDB flats have MORE THAN DOUBED while wages were stagnant.

    4) Bulk of retirement savings of Singapore (CPF money) “trapped” in a basically depreciating (to ZERO) asset their HDB flat. HDB housing scheme has become a Ponzi scheme using an unsustainable “property bubble”

    5) After 5 decades of PAP control Singaporeans still do NOT have the promised Swiss Standard of Living. They only have Swiss COST of Living with low wages.

    6) No REAL accountability in the public sector because of lack of openness nd transparency.

    7) Over-paid politicians and senior civil servants with no accountability

    8) Lack of preparedness for the pandemic as shown by shortage of masks and wrong advice on when to use them.

    9) The pandemic at foreign workers dorms should PAP stupidity and incompetence when it allowed them to be built despite their high public health risk. Hundreds of million, if not billions, of taxpayers’ money has been spent to fix the problem and millions are still being spent daily to fix this big PAP blunder.

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  • ganeshsk:

    Dear Yoong

    Just stick to one point, “Dr Chee is no angel” was also falsehood perpetuated by your previous LKY who was afraid of him getting into parliament.

    At least Dr Chee is no coward unlike LKY.

    My 2 cents worth

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  • GE2020:

    在任何民主国家 , 每个公民都有知情权 , 如果没有不可告人的议程 , 只要告诉人民有或没有就可以了 , 况且提问题又不是什么犯罪行为 .

    几年前 , 前城市重建负责人刘太格曾经提议新加坡可容纳1000万人口的建议 . 这几乎是每个公民都知道的事情 , 那时候并没有任何有关官方出来否认或接纳 .

    现在,到了关键选举期间 , 现任政府更加有责任来阐明自己的立场和未来的人口政策 , 让人民来决定想要把选票投给谁 .

    是非自有曲直,公道自在人心 , 人民心中都有一把尺 .

    是驴是马拉出去遛一遛就知道了 !

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  • ganeshsk:

    Mr Yoong, stick to one point, ” Dr Chee is no angel” was false hood perpetuated by your late boss LKY was always afraid Dr Chee might enter parliament and he has to deal with him.

    At least Dr Chee is no coward unlike LKY.

    My 2 cents worth.

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  • Crooked PAP:

    PAP will pay a heavy price in Bukit Batok as they continue to bash Dr Chee.

    PAP is so afraid Murali may lose. The more PAP bash Dr Chee, the more votes he will get and win Bukit Batok.

    Expect PAP to fire their biggest guns on the last day of campaign. PAP will go out to frighten Singaporeans the country will collapse in PAP dont win 2/3 Majority.

    PAP will also tarnish Dr Chee, Lim Tean and Dr Tan image with character assignation tactics.

    Singaporeans go head to vote for more Opposition. This is your last chance.

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  • PAPs are running scared:

    wow dr chee has the whole country in a buzz talking about this topic…and PAPs are so mad at him for opening up this can of worms again.
    all the PAPs are taking shots with “poison darts” at him.
    PAP said “Dr Chee has not changed,will not change and cannot change” .
    why should he?
    want him to be like u PAPs ?
    big bullies?

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  • trublu:

    People do mellow,especially people who become wiser as they get older.DR CHEE is one such person,i must say.
    I watched in the past during hustings n i watched him recently,he has matured unlike many of our $cholar-ministers who remain arrogant n love nitpicking.
    Doesnt VB display such tendencies like many if his PAP colleague$?

    To me,i was left to make wild guesses too.
    I thought i heard 10 MILLION,at least mentioned by one of their PAPple,high level advisor on land use n a mentor to many younger bureaucrat$ who became ministers?

    WHOTO BLAME?
    WHAT TO BLAME?
    THE GOVT CHOOSE TO BE NON-TRANSPARENT INMANY OF OUR STATISTOCS N EVEN NATIONAL RESERVES.
    Socan we blame DR CHEE OR ANY GOOD N CONCERNED SGS FROM GUESTIMATING?

    HOW MUCH IS OUR RESERVES
    ,HOW MUCH IS THE $100 BILLION IN TERMS OF PROPORTION OF EXISTING RESERVES?
    THIS,SGS,NEEDTO KNOW.AND,MANY OTHER THINGS LIKE LOCAL LABOUR FORCE IN TERMS OF SGSVS NON-sgs like PRs.

    PAP NEED TO BE TRANSPARENT AS IT NEEDS TO ACCOUNT OPENLY TO THE CITIZEN-DTAKEHOLDERS like it or not.

    Do you see SENIOR EXECUTICESHIDING INFOFROM SHAREHOLDERS?

    THE SAMW IT IS FORPAP WHOHOLDEXECUTIVE POSTS IN GOVT.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Hong Kong Hero First Run Road:

    Another load of your puerile fart of fiction, your usual. Go back to Boleh Land and tap rubber instead of getting paid 20c for each rubbish posting as a PAPpy IB.

    Hong Kong Hero First Run Road: PAP.Guarantee.Win.GE20
    Majullah $PAP$ $PAP$ Huat$ Huat$ Huat$
    Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster.
    Workers must accept wage sacrifices to keep businesses going.

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  • PANDEMIC ACTION PLAN:

    “Land-scarce Singapore ranks among the top three most densely populated countries in the world. As it prepares for further population growth, the city-state is exploring new strategies to address overcrowding.”
    https://www.aseantoday.com/2019/09/singapore-goes-underground-to-address-overcrowding-woes/

    Looks like Covid Pandemic has derailed the Population Growth Plan that helps to keep up with GDP objectives!

    “The central government of Singapore, which sets ambitious goals for economic growth, envisions the population growing to 6.9 million by 2030 in order to keep up with GDP objectives. That means fitting another 1.3 million residents on an island three-fifths the size of New York City.”
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/keep-up-with-growth-singapore-has-grand-plan-to-expand-underground-180968199/

    WHERE IS THE URA UNDERGROUND SPACES MASTER PLAN?

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  • Xia suay pap minister:

    Agreed:
    Dr. Vivian Balakhrishnan could has just clarified the 10M issue raised ..
    No need to attack Dr Chee personally…

    Sissy Vivien is quite a haughty and nasty character.

    Even his own demure colleague dr lili, he behaved very gentlemanly and retorted her on the 3 meals.

    In front of big boys like Thump and fat boy Kim, he is like a puppy wagging its tail in obedience.

    Shameless and hypocritical

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  • Pls Attack DR Chee Some More:

    Vivian , it shows that you do not have anything substantial to fight with Dr Chee that you have to attack his character, integrity and honesty.

    Please attack some more and you will end up giving Dr Chee more votes in Bukit Batok. Thank you Vivian.

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  • trublu:

    KIM Yong-Gan,CHUA CHU KANG not just constituency but FAMILY ?
    Family?
    You suddenly become family?
    You took away our jobs,our livelihoods,is that how family members behave?

    PAPple are not with THE PEOple.
    Loot $100 BILLION ,hand the BULK TO WE DONT KNOW WHO IN NAME OF JOBS,JOBS,JOBS( V BALAKHRISNAN) WHEN THE JOBS WERE STOLEN BY YOU N GIVEN TO YOUR FTs ?

    Then,to shut elderly sgs from complaining,give them cheap $600 lollipops to shut their mouths?

    Family?

    I huess only duri g GE?

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  • PAP Very Desperate Now:

    It looks like the PAP have no other plans except to keep on repeating about looking after our health, jobs and future repeatedly like a spoiled record.

    They did not have plans to tackle the current issues such as CPF withdrawal at 55, HDB becoming zero value, Local PMETs driving for GRAB, High Cost Of Living, 200,000 become jobless very soon etc..

    As a result they are becoming very desperate and now they resort to attacking the character, integrity honesty of Opposition Leaders.

    Keep it Up PAP.

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  • trublu:

    Jobs,jobs jobs!
    Really?.whoa Save job$? Whose jobs???

    MANY,MANY,MANY GOOD SG-PMEs oredy LOST * JOBS,HOBS,JOBS* WAY BEFORE COVID 19?

    IF NEED TO,REPLACE EXPENSIVE FAKE FTs WITH LOCALS!
    $100 BILLION TO PAY TO EXPENSIVE FTs SALARIES?

    JOBS,JOBS,JOBS or just job$$$?

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  • trublu:

    Eh,DONT PAI SEH,leh.
    Why dont say SORRY,WE TOOK AWAY *JOBS,JOBS,JOBS* N CREATED THEM FOR FTs?

    Every GE tell sgs,WE CREATE *NEW* JOBS for you.
    Yeah,NEW JOBS LIKE GRAB TAXI DRIVER,DELIVERY BOYS ETC IN EXCHANGE FOR YOUR OLD JOBS IN THE BANKS,IN IT,COMMERCE,etc?,,

    VB,*jobs,jobs,jobs*…eh,DONT *JOB* the people,leh…
    PAP MPs/ministers are merely * jobbers* trying to job( CON) the people?

    Every GE,VOTE FOR US,ITS CRISIS,THE WORLD TOPSY TURVY,ONLY WE CAN FARK( er,help) you?

    Every GE,WE UNDERSTAND YOU,WE OSO DDROM POOR FAMILIES.
    AFTER GE,,YOU MATI YOUR BUSINESS???

    ARENT YOU TIRED OF THE BUL BULLCRAPS?

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  • trublu:

    Oh,BTW,OTHER ELECTION SLOGANS LIKE *UPGRADE TO UPTURN THE DOWN-TURN.
    UPSKILL,RE-SKILL….NG CHEE MENG?
    AFTER THEY TOOK AWAY YOUR DECENT JOBS?

    HEY,IF THERE IS ANY SEMBLANCE OF SINCERITY,may this old sg uncle give simple SUGGESTIONS?

    NO NEED TO REPLACE SG-PMEs with so-called FTs.
    PMEs received BASIC TERTIARY EDUCATION N CAN ADAPT BY ON-THE-JOB *RE-TRAINING*,call it RE-SKILLING OR UP-SKILLING,whatever.
    Just DONT REPLACE our sgs with NEW FTs,by courtest of FTAs,and then give them a FEW DOLLARS for them to upgrade themselves after they lose their jobs???

    Many good MNCs allow tbeirlong-serving staff to have JOB-ROTATION,call it RE-SKILLING,if you wish.
    This way,SGS GET TO UPGRADE,UP-SKILL OR RE-SKILL WITHOUT HAVING THEIR *JOBS* TAKEN AWAY?

    NG CHEE MENGARE YOU THERE?

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  • Thank You East Coast GRC:

    East Coast GRC members
    Please spare Heng Swee Kiat chance of getting another Heart Attack by voting him out. Look at the way he speak on nomination day will see that he cannot be STRESS again. VOTE for WP
    Heng Swee Kiat will Gratefully Thank You.

    WP should be campaigning this slogan on the last day that is Sunday

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  • voters love to swallow:

    When one can attack with absolute immunity, what do you expect. Actually, that was the ulterior aim of the debate. To accuse “cheat” and the msm amplify that immediately.

    They have used this label on Dr Chee before and voters seem to swallow readily.

    Voters, you swallow again?

    Agreed:
    Dr. Vivian Balakhrishnan could has just clarified the 10M issue raised ..
    No need to attack Dr Chee personally…

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  • When the wolves come howling:

    Mr. Foong, in that all-too-brief farce of a skewed national debate, the rich party guy Vivien was demonstrating his absolute gratitude to his MENTOR Lee Kuan Yew who had once sued Dr. Chee Soon Juan until his pants dropped decades ago. By God’s grace the doctor is still with us standing up for sheeples.

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  • mountain_tortise:

    IF we make everyone rich or poor or only live in high rise apartment, no more landed properties, with today’s technology I think 15 million also no issue, only issue is where food, water going come from ?

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  • patriot of TUMASIK:

    Pls Attack DR Chee Some More:
    Vivian , it shows that you do not have anything substantial to fight with Dr Chee that you have to attack his character, integrity and honesty.

    Please attack some more and you will end up giving Dr Chee more votes in Bukit Batok. Thank you Vivian.

    well PAID attack puppy leh!!!

    unlike the Mediocre found in the internet brigade lucky if they are paid $50 for 10 Barks in the net and $100 for posted Barks where a little talent is needed

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  • Calling Liu Thai Ker:

    Calling Liu Thai Ker
    Calling Liu Thai Ker
    Calling Liu Thai Ker…..You REALLY have to say something now.
    You Started the whole thing.
    Time to take off the Mask
    Time for you to clarify and put this issue to RIP.
    Get rid of this red herring!
    Voters can then focuss on the Humongous Covid Screw-up; that cost tax-payers $95 Billion and being in partial lockdown 100 days later.

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  • Flickshit:

    During the debate, I noticed that Dr Vilian behaves as though he is in the upper hand, until when he noticed that one of the WP members can speak and debates better than him that he tried to win him over to PAP.

    In short, this shows that PAP don’t really have any good ministers around. Just vote for any opposition members into parliament and takes on PAP on the world stage,.

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  • MarBowling:

    Calling Liu Thai Ker:
    July 5, 2020 at 1:13 pm (Quote)
    Calling Liu Thai Ker
    Calling Liu Thai Ker
    Calling Liu Thai Ker…..You REALLY have to say something now.

    Response: don’t THINK Lewd Tiger will response to your CALL!
    As the ex-Indian Chief of URA, he still have a lots of INFLUENCE behind the scene. That’s one of the Main Reason why the 10 Millions Test Ballon was FLOATING all over the shop! Heard he has set up his OWN ARCHITECTURE Firm at age 79! By PROMOTING the 10 millions magic number, his firm will easily win tender and REAP a HUGE amount of $$$$$ from providing architectural design for new BTO flats to house the expected 10 millions in the future. Check out who and who are the shareholders of his firm!

    Too bad for Lewd Tiger. Dr Chee has POPPED the Test Ballon. There goes his Sweet Dream!

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  • AristoCATs - Amnesia?:

    Google “Population White Paper”
    -
    Google parliament motion on it.
    -
    Google Inderjit Singh speech against the motion.
    -
    Papaya realized it has become hot-potato.

    -
    Google – Architect AristoCAT Lie Thai Ker on how to fit SG for 10m !

    -
    Remember the Ballot Box !

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