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Misleading on CECA

Again, the authorities are painting one side of the picture to mislead. This time, it got the MTI to do the dirty work.

It starts off stating authoritatively that there is “no provision under CECA for Indian nationals to become PRs and citizens”. That’s true and actually obvious because this agreement pertains to investment, not citizenship. But we all know that PMEs form the pool for future PRs and citizens, unlike Work Permit holders.
It then says that it is “not true that CECA requires the Singapore authorities to automatically grant employment passes to Indian PMEs who want to work here”.

It gives the impression that Indian nationals are treated no differently from other nationals, but it is not true. All applications for Employment Passes must satisfy the minimum qualifying salaries as well as other standard requirements like educational qualification, employment offer from a company etc. So in that sense, approval is “not automatic”, but it is again stating the obvious.

What they didn’t say is that the Singapore authority is obligated under CECA to grant an Indian applicant an Employment Pass once he or she satisfies the various criteria, whereas, it has no such obligation for other nationals.

If the qualified Indian applicant is rejected, he can seek recourse via his government as provided under CECA.
Let me quote Article 9.3.1: “Each Party shall grant temporary entry to natural persons of other Party,…in accordance with this Chapter.”

Unless I have a different understanding, “shall grant” means “must grant”. And this include 127 different categories of professionals.

MTI goes on to say that “all companies must comply with rules on fair hiring”.

Again, this is misleading because although all companies are subject to the Fair Consideration Framework, that requirement is not applicable if the applicant is an Indian national.

Let me quote Article 9.3.3: “Neither Party shall require labour market testing, economic needs testing or other procedures of similar effects as a condition for temporary entry in respect of natural persons upon whom the benefits of this Chapter are conferred.”

Economic needs testing basically means the employer must ensure that there are no suitable locals before employing a foreigner, hence, MOM’s Fair Consideration Framework. But Indians are exempted.

I stand corrected because the text in Free Trade Agreements is meant to obfuscate rather than clarify because if the public understands and realise that the odds are stacked against them in favour of businesses, they would be thumping their pitchforks in front of Parliament House, after all, FTAs are actually Investor Rights Agreements. Hope the authorities can clarify.

 

Foong Swee Fong

 

 

 

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22 Responses to “Misleading on CECA”

  • Outcome:

    We should look at the outcome.
    Reality is there are too many FTs here and the proportion of FTs in some companies are really too high.
    Ok if those jobs are really those that our locals cannot do.But it is not.
    Should take serious action to address the FTs problem this time.
    Owe it to the Singaporean who are unemployed or underemployed.
    If still cannot,better replace the MOM team .

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  • no one really knows:

    whats so special about the ceca-india?
    india must have given our gov some ‘special privileges’ in return too, right?..
    otherwise how can it be so one sided? there arent thousands of sgs rushing to work in india is there?
    we’ll never know what our gov got from the india gov.
    im sure its a state secret…not in our interest to know?

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  • opposition dude:

    Well then, let’s kick out more of PAP in the next election. Less of PAP means less headache for Singaporeans so it’s a win win for us.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Hahahaha

    Now the recession is here and $G citizens will be losing jobs BIG TIME to FT.

    $G-born so much education but so stupid. Majority think nothing can touch them or that this clown circus owes them a living.

    Wait a little while longer. Let’s see if pappy voters are magically protected against FT.

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  • TUMASIK Patriot:

    The Art of Deceit is SUPREME and SPINNING is another day at the Office lah!!!

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  • No Fool:

    Unless there is a clause that specifically prohibits EP holders under CECA to apply for PR or Citizenship, what is there to prevent them from doing so? If II am not mistaken, under CECA, they are eligible to have their work visas renewed which means they can live and work in SG indefinitley, unless there is limit set on the number of years after which they must leave the country. EP holders should not be allowed to apply for PR or citizenship, and their spouses and dependents should not be allowed to compete with locals for jobs. When their time of stay is up, there should be not further extension and the whole family must leave the country. Meanwhile, another Indian national will probably be on his/her way to fill up the vacancy instead of a local.

    Question: are children born to fhese families automatically granted SG citizenship?

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  • Ah Peng Kia:

    “..if the public understands and realise that the odds are stacked against them in favour of businesses, they would be thumping their pitchforks in front of Parliament House…”

    You couldn’t be more wrong. Most Singaporeans are “kiasu, kia gui, kia zeng hu” pushovers. Even if you snatch away their basic human rights, they will lay down on the road, silent, to let you completely roll them over. The education system here has taught us to never question, never oppose and never raise a pitchfork even if our lives are put in danger by the PAP government.

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  • xoxo:

    Dont forget,your future PM ,Ah Heng played a pivotal role in this as he does in squandering $100 Billion n will be collecting more g$t from jobless sgs.

    What a heap of rubbish PAPple!

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  • General Custer:

    The AP needs these CECA workers as in time to come, they will be citizens and form the core of voters!
    Just look at East Coast GRC, where HSK won because of the Indians staying over there and where their children need not do national service as they remain as PRs!
    As the true-blue older citizens are fading, the younger true-blue citizens are no more auto-pilot voters! Just look at close shaves in East Coast, West Coast, Bukit Batok, Bukit Panjang, and Marymount. Soon, they will be filled with new citizens!

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  • To CECA freest economy:

    “It is not necessary that whilst I live I live happily; but it is necessary that so long as I live I should live honourably…. So act in order that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world.”

    - Immanuel Kant

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  • Freedom To Exploit:

    Free Trade disguised in any name is still the same Freedom to Exploit. Corporation are making use of these free trades to maximize their profits and in our case Singaporeans are being exploited.

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  • We not stupid:

    So can the raising of new EP and S Pass minimum salaries be even applicable to Indians from India? Or are they only under the very old requirements before CECA was signed?

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  • Billy ma:

    Here’s the challenge for PAP especially EXPERIENCE Heng & cotton chan repeat loud & clear during the next GE about how many jobs created for Singaporeans due to the free trade with India.

    Dare you people to shout about how Singaporeans benefit from it & that it’s Singaporeans fault that we don’t understand the good that was created.

    And see how Singaporeans respond to your lies.

    I believe LHL is taking a hard line on many similar issues that are affecting our citizens.

    One reason is that PAP can’t apologise because it would exposed their mistakes.

    Secondly, as PAP always bragged about strong leadership do not bow to pressure if they think they’re doing the right thing.

    LHL thinks he is absolutely right & it is beneath himself if he listen to the people.

    Thirdly, LHL wants Singaporeans to realise that whatever it is, he holds absolute power & authority over every citizen.

    Even ho ching knew this & is behaving accordingly.

    LHL wants to bring in his son to one day be PM?
    try bringing him in in next GE & see how Singaporeans tear him apart.

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  • Constructive honest ...:

    politics please.
    Statistics and politicians can lie, but not the numbers and what we see on the ground.
    We see and hear India Indians everywhere – it is nothing to do with racism. Just to rebuke the politicians blatant lies.
    Even true blue Singaporean Indians, Tamils and Northern Indians too, are complaining about more foreign Indians coming to displace them.
    PAP can always lump or segregate Singaporeans, PRs, Employment Pass, S Pass and Work Permit holders on employment rate, unemployment, retrenchment, housing, purchase of private properties to suit its purpose.
    CCS says the Indian population has not increased or remains more or less unchanged. Really? Since when?
    How come Malay population has decreased despite the higher birth rate? By the way, I am not a Malay or an Indian Malay like Halimah.
    Chinese population has not increased.
    So where did the percentage of missing population? The Caucasian FT in Raffles Place have become Singaporeans? More inter marriages between Indian males, the $1.5 million condo Ramesh and Singaporean females and they put Chinese in their children birth certs and NRIC?

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  • TreCensorShip:

    August 31, 2020 at 4:26 pm (Quote)
    In 1979, I work with National Shipping Line , NOL, at $210 basic pay, overtime every month hits 120% to 150% +-. My total pay per month is 600 plus, after deducting CPF, take home is less, around 400+.

    The then gov and NTUC encourage us to support our national line. Ask any economist, the more overtime you work, MAKES YOU CHEAP !!!

    NOW, AFTER 40 YEARS, NOL WAS GONE !!!
    ” FAILED ”

    TODAY, ALL OUR ASME, SME, GLC, STAT BOARDS,

    ARE ” EXPLOITING FW,WORK PERMIT HOLDERS, TO THE ABOVE HOSTAGE CONCEPT…..

    SMALL BASIC PAY,

    PLENTY OF OT, TO SCREW THE FW, WORK PERMUTS HOLDERS ,

    THEIR,

    ” BLOOD , SWEAT, TEARS ”

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  • These juggling fiends!:

    MacBeth: “And be these juggling fiends no more believed”! They speak with a forked-tongue and ambiguity. What appears to be true has an underlying lie. So for the not-so-discerning Singaporeans, you can very easily be led up the garden path without even knowing! Believe them no more!

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  • we're not racist but....:

    what about the deals made with PRC and the other 3rd world asian countries.
    mayb we only can see india indians cuz of the color of their skin n looks..
    whereas there are also alot of vietnamese , cambodians ,thais and majority prcs, & chinese pinoys.
    they all look oriental in looks n skin color.
    so not so glaringly obvious. we only recognise their nationality when they speak.
    is this the case??

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  • uselesstankl:

    The seven imported cases comprise six Singaporeans or permanent residents who had returned from India and Malaysia between Aug 17 and 19. The seventh is a work permit holder from India who arrived on Aug 19.

    XXXXX

    Why the bloody hell we are ” IMPORTING ”

    COVID19 PPL into our island,

    ” EVERY DAMM DAY ”

    IS OR DOES SINKIES “LIVE” MATTER, COME CHEAP,

    becaused only the poor, average SINKIES goes to shops nearby or shopping centres.

    ” DO YOU SEE ANY PAP MP’S ” around in your no earby shops ????

    ” DO YOU SEE YOUR MP’S ” at nearby shopping centres ???

    HELL, YOU WOULD MORE LIKELY STRIKE 4D, THAN SEEING THEM FREAKS SHOPPING AROUND ….

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  • uselesstankl:

    Deputy Prime Minister Heng Swee Keat said Singapore needs to change to adapt, while staying true to the nation’s values

    xxxx

    CONTRADICTING SENTENCE !!!!
    WHAT ARE VALUES ???
    PLEASE ELABORATE !!!

    WHAT IS CHANGE ???
    PLEASE DO ABOVE TOO !!!

    IF KEEPING VALUES THE SAME,

    HOW TO CHANGE ????

    MORPH INTO A BUTTERFLY ????

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  • Astrea:

    PaP use and abuse statistics and fabricate when it suits their purpose.

    Anyone Read This interesting Story? :
    Kuwait: 800,000 Indians may have to leave as country approves expat bill
    The current population of Kuwait is 4.3 million, with Kuwaitis making up 1.3 million of the population, and expats accounting for 3 million.
    Indians make up more than 48% of the foreign population and mind you, this is WITHOUT CECA.

    PaPs must be rubbing their hands with cunning delight as they welcome more Indians into our teeny weeny island. Why do they think we are a bunch of idiots? Unbelievable

    https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/kuwait-800-000-indians-may-have-to-leave-as-country-approves-expat-bill-120070600497_1.html#:~:text=Kuwait%3A%20800%2C000%20Indians%20may%20have%20to%20leave%20as%20country%20approves%20expat%20bill,-Press%20Trust%20of&text=A%20total%20of%208%20lakh,workers%20in%20the%20Gulf%20country.

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  • CECA ruled by law:

    I wonder is it that the employment crissis is due to the agreement signed such that they are ruled by their own law?

    Hahahaha!

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  • Thank HSK for CECA!:

    HSK won by a landslide right?

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