Why employers prefer to employ foreigners

My friend said – Kin Lian, do you know why employers prefer to employ foreigners and not locals?

He elaborated.

Cost is one factor, but it is not the most important factor. More important is the attitude.
You have heard about employers exploiting workers, right? Are you aware that in the real world, many workers exploit their employers? They demand high salaries, collect the salaries, and do not give back to their employers what they take from the employer. They are willing to take advantage of their employer, when the boss is not aware.

They wait for instructions and lack initiative to carry out whatever is necessary for the business to survive. They treasure their personal time and freedom and are not willing to sacrifice for their employer.

These workers seem to think that it is easy for their boss to run a business. That is why employers do not wish to employ local workers. It is their bad attitude.

He told me that he does not wish to generalize and to say that all local workers have bad attitudes. They may be exceptions, but quite few. He has bad experience and wish to avoid employing local workers. They are not reliable.

I think that he is referring to the small businesses, who have to struggle very hard. He is not referring to the big companies – which pays well and can command the full loyalty of the workers.

I wonder if his observation is fair to local worker?

 

Tan Kin Lian

 

 

 

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40 Responses to “Why employers prefer to employ foreigners”

  • See the other side:

    @TKL “He told me that he does not wish to generalize and to say that all local workers have bad attitudes. They may be exceptions, but quite few. He has bad experience and wish to avoid employing local workers. They are not reliable.”

    See one particular low-waged industry dominated by non-singaporeans. Complained about Singaporeans shuning the exploited job by the industry players
    like the above particular employer & then complained about 1) not enough personnel & 2) exploited and taken great advantage by non-Singaporeans suka suka come & go & 3) return to former worksite to showoff he got immediate hire.

    TKL’s friend wants cheap but also “lucky” not in the industry where non-Singaporeans give a worse working attitude. Singaporeans do not take up the job at all to show bad working attidue.

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  • Went to Japan:

    TKL – I agree with you on some aspects like those work that locals shun like delivery man, general workers or the Hunan girl you are so happy to see at the bakery.

    But as a former CEO, you seem to be very self centred on big things. These days, all kind of jobs are going to foreigners, not just these menial jobs. Well paid PMET jobs are also going to foreigners because they have all become locals via PR or new citizen. Singapore has almost an astonishing 50% of population are foreigners and it is not Dubai and does not have enough oil money to benefit home grown or ample jobs for all.

    You want to see all the jobs all going to foreigners? You dont have children or grandchildren? You want them to be PHV driver or Grab Food?

    I admired you for many of your post on government policies but when I followed you like a loyal fan, I started to see you are not different from PAPY, you are actually PAPy lite. You love authoritarian regime like China and CCP because you believe they gave economy growth and better life to citizens and China has become a major power. You ignore all the evil they did in South China Seas, spying and bullying citizens and neighbours. When people comment on these, you delete their comments and block them.

    PAPy did not want you to continue as executive, so you turned your love into hatred. This is what I believe why you are against them. Otherwise you will just look at the GDP growth and your landed property and sing their tunes.

    Honestly, you are just another PAPy lite hypocrite.

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  • Pay peanuts:

    You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

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  • Harder Truths:

    All excuses – no reasons.

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  • ScS:

    @WtJ. Agree with what you said about TKL and his hypocrisy & foe-turned-to-animosity relationship with pooh-n-poo. But regarding SCS, what if hostile or foe-turn-animosity forces have planted missiles and nuclear aiming at perceived future threat? Look at JFK time when Russia deployed necleur missiles in Cuba. USA rejected fiercing almost escalating war for security reason and SCS is similarly a strategic location primary for security reason, i.e. a country remaining intact from missile attack & other modern weapon threats. For the last 200 years, which country has constantly & consustently be the aggressor in wars, unprovoked?

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  • Survey recently:

    TCSS

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  • Be objective:

    We are all looking at different part of the whole.
    Time to look at the whole and do what is necessary for Singapore and Singaporean future.Time to do a thorough review and rectify the existing weakness.
    Not going to be easy but we need to be objective.

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  • Talk Cork:

    Here are the reasons why Employers only want to hire foreigners :

    1. For fear of losing their jobs thinking a Singaporean may take over him/her role.

    2. Employers only want their own species because the employee will feel indebted to the employer and will do anything for his fellow countrymen to keep their jobs.

    3. Singaporeans will not allow their employer to abuse, discriminate or make them work like a donkey

    4. Singaporeans need to spent time with their families on weekends. Foreigners will work on weekends and PH, as most of them are slave to their jobs and Work Pass and most of them do not have families in SG

    5. Foreigners usually have close knit friends to expand their presence in any company and will only employee their friends.

    6. Due to MOM’s bad policies and loopholes which MOM knows but closes one eye.

    In summary, PAP Govt was whacked by Singaporeans for the above in the recent election. More GRCs will be lost to Opposition in the next election.

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  • PAP is Pro-Alien Party:

    Workers can only exploit employers if the latter is a “cheapskate” and do not pay a fair (living) wage. If the employer pays a competitive salary he/she can always the unhappy employee to leave.

    Also with foreigners cheaper to hire than local it is likely the foreign worker than will exploit the employer knowing getting another foreign worker is not straight forward for work visa reasons.

    With cheaper foreign workers the employer is more likely to exploit a Singaporean worker by forcing him/her to accept lower pay arguing he/she can be replaced by a foreign worker.

    The exemption of foreigners from CPF (from Woody GCT) and allowing large number to work in Singapore (from LHL) “distorted” job market causing thousands of Singaporean PMETs to lose their job to foreigners.

    PAP HUBRIS prevents a change in policy to level the playing friend for jobs. It is that simple.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Hello, don’t come and talk cock and start parroting what the PAP has been telling everybody about poor working attitude of Singaporeans. Our labour laws allow employers to suka suka terminate staff as long as they don’t like his face. This was what happened to me 22 years ago. Complain to MOM you think they will administer justice for you? I can tell you JUSTICE MY FOOT! I went through exactly what Parti, the maid accused of stealing from Liew Mun Leong’s family went through. Only thing I wasn’t jailed and she was lucky to have a lawyer willing to do for her pro-bono. The district judge that found her guilty and that was what MOM did to me despite me being able to rebut the so-called “evidences” provided by my ex-company. With this kind of labour law you think so easy for workers to “exploit” employers?

    I then decided to venture on my own, and I discovered it’s so attractive too employ foreigners. Why? Foreigners are tied down by the WP requirements. They cannot just resign like that. And when employers did not pay them on time, many hesitate to complain because they they will be repatriated even after they get paid. I saw with my own eyes how one employer held back salary of WP holders because if you do that to a Singaporean, he can just resign and look for another job. A WP holder cannot do that. That’s why employers prefer foreigners, easier to control and exploit.

    You probably have been a CEO for too long and cannot understand the predicaments of a worker.

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  • Spore Bosses Got Bad Attitude:

    1) Employee on MC that day. At 6 pm, the boss calls him say “urgent meeting”.
    2) Boss always calls for meeting at 6 pm when people are about to leave the office. The meeting last till 10 pm. Trivial matters are discussed.
    3) Boss ask freelancer for discount when paying waages. After they already agreed on rates.
    4) Boss ask newbies to work on commission basis. They don’t pay basic salary, meals or transport. The commission comes three months after the sale is made. Three months people pay money work for such bossess.
    5) Insurance lagi best. Salesmen pay for their own training. They ask the salesmen to draw up a list of relatives and friends for the comapany to makan. The company does not pay anything.
    6) When it comes to comfirming staff on probation, boss puprposes antagonise the employee so he/she will quit. Boss saves on giving confirmed staff an increment.
    7) Boss ask the employee to train his replacement.
    8) Some companies never pay CPF. Got the gall to sack employees for asking.
    10) A lot of job interviewers got no manners or are even outright rude.

    So you do have penny pinching, cheapskate, kiasu, rude, arrogant people. And they wonder why nobody wants to work for them?

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  • Free Rider Singaporeans:

    Dear TKL,
    Yes, I strongly agreed with you and those who thumb me down are 99.999% free rider who never donate to help Andrew.

    But, Hard Truth is Free Rider Singaporeans cannot stand up to challenges.

    Hard Truth:
    1. Free rider Singaporeans cheat to pass exam using 10 years series Cheat Sheet much like what the Americans do.

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    2. Free rider Singaporeans is unemployable is because they are lazy, unmotivated, uncreative, uninnovative, untalented except cheat to pass exam.

    3. Free rider Singaporeans always wait for solution to deliver to them on a plate. You never see them proactively seeking for solution.

    4. Free rider Singaporeans always hide behind monikers to whine instead of stepping out to build connection in community.

    Free rider Singaporeans are so shameless that they even setup a website to promote cheating and feel very proud of cheating.

    https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/

    Free rider Singaporeans are exam cheater…Cheaters can never stand up to challenges except continue cheating ….

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    Lazy Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster

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  • it is not a witch hunt:

    whenever any local employer says bad things about local born potential employee, we just shake our head.

    there is such a thing called commensurate wage.

    want to pay ceca ah neh wage in Singapore? then only ceca ah neh gets hired.

    if only employers pay pap S$m wage, the applicants’ queue runs from marina bay to woodlands. the successful applicant forever very loyal and dedicated.

    of course if peanut wage, then, too bad lah. only ceca ah neh or monkey whichever comes first.

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  • TumasikPatriot:

    Tan ahhh!!! your friend runs a barber shop or cher char stall lah!!! where mostly Malaysians are employed

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  • Cant stand u !:

    Cant stand u. Nowadays when I read the first sentence, I know it is from you. Then I go to the end, really it is you! I tend to skip.

    Yes agreed to many that you are just a hypocite. To put this article up, you are being disgustingly unfair to most locals. I am glad that i did not previously voted you as precident and I dont think you are of the right materia too.

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  • Free Rider Singaporeans:

    Went to Japan:
    You ignore all the evil they did in South China Seas, spying and bullying citizens and neighbours. When people comment on these, you delete their comments and block them.

    Exactly… exactly…. frigging China is very evil ..

    Be wary of evil China spreading evil Confucius ideology worldwide.

    Confucius evilness teaching lies in its inward, closed mindedness, illogical (not allow to question your parents) thinking.

    Never never learn or get near Confucius teaching. Confucius is against progress, against women, and against humanity.

    Please support America Donald Trump effort to shutdown all Confucius school孔子学院 worldwide, including Singapore.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/13/trump-administration-confucius-institute-is-arm-of/

    Only British Council or American Council be allowed to operate worldwide.

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    Lazy Singaporeans must be Cheaper, Better, Faster

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  • Birds of the same feather:

    See the other side:
    @TKL “He told me that he does not wish to generalize and to say that all local workers have bad attitudes. They may be exceptions, but quite few. He has bad experience and wish to avoid employing local workers. They are not reliable.”

    See one particular low-waged industry dominated by non-singaporeans. Complained about Singaporeans shuning the exploited job by the industry players
    like the above particular employer & then complained about 1) not enough personnel & 2) exploited and taken great advantage by non-Singaporeans suka suka come & go & 3) return to former worksite to showoff he got immediate hire.

    TKL’s friend wants cheap but also “lucky” not in the industry where non-Singaporeans give a worse working attitude. Singaporeans do not take up the job at all to show bad working attidue.

    Birds of the same feather!

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  • xoxo:

    Yeah,it was a BIG MISTAKE TAN KIN LIAN was made NTUC INCOME CEO,they should have had a FT -CEO instead?

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  • Police Special Unit:

    I read recently that the SPF have set up a specially trained unit to protect Ministers and other important VIP. These officers are supposed to place themselves between the attackers and the VIPs in order to take the bullets meant for the VIPs.

    Do they really mean it ? How much do the officers earn per month to sacrifice their bodies and their lives ? Unless these officers have been thoroughly brain washed and don’t even care about their own relatives such as children, wives, father and mother.

    Even if you employ foreigners, do you think they will sacrifice their lives for the VIPs ?

    Come on, this expectation is very selfish and unrealistic.

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  • Local Employers 100% perfect ?:

    These local employers expect their Singaporean employees to be 100 % perfect. How much are you willing to pay and are you 100 per cent perfect also ?

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  • O jectively:

    I think its not a fair statement. Not to forget that foreigners. Many are earning a “fortune” here.
    I know of a friend who is working here earning about 2000+. For us its difficult to survive not enough for one to slave for the company and sacrfice their youth. Howerever, for my friend, with his income, he had bought a nice house, a car, invested in a few lands and a car renting business back in his home town and he can probably retire in his mid 40 comfortably. If given these, would we have more local slaving and sacrifice for the company? Sure. I will do that. But i know its now possible. So i have to make my livings, support my kids and live a life HERE!

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  • Police CLOSE DOWN:

    Hmmm, foreigners don’t skive, job hop or display poor attitude?

    Sporeans who ask for better pay, more work life balance, better work conditions got bad attitude.

    Last time, companies who always advertise in the Straits Times got a problem. Toxic environment or toxic boss.

    What about that $3000 dish washer job? The offer wasn’t honored? Waiter positions cannot fill. Becos they ask candidates to pay for uniform and shoes.

    Just show one thing, employers don’t want to pay well. And then complained annot find people. Who wants to be sucker?

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  • Cheropakick:

    Interesting!

    Tell us more?

    Now you probably could get Anil to fight for you.

    Zhenzidan:
    Hello, don’t come and talk cock and start parroting what the PAP has been telling everybody about poor working attitude of Singaporeans. Our labour laws allow employers to suka suka terminate staff as long as they don’t like his face. This was what happened to me 22 years ago. Complain to MOM you think they will administer justice for you? I can tell you JUSTICE MY FOOT! I went through exactly what Parti, the maid accused of stealing from Liew Mun Leong’s family went through. Only thing I wasn’t jailed and she was lucky to have a lawyer willing to do for her pro-bono. The district judge that found her guilty and that was what MOM did to me despite me being able to rebut the so-called “evidences” provided by my ex-company. With this kind of labour law you think so easy for workers to “exploit” employers?

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  • Zhenzidan:

    @Free Rider Singaporeans

    ————————————————
    Ya lah, Singaporeans are indeed lazy free-riders. But who has been governing Singapore since independence? Correct, your stupid PAP. After so many years of governing, they only produce lazy free-riding Singaporeans. That means PAP have failed. So time to vote them out.

    Oi, but lazy free-riders still better than blind ass-lickers like you.

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  • Reality:

    Some FT are paid so well doing job that a local can do at cheaper rate…
    What happen ?
    Why MOM allowed such thing to happen in some private clinics here?

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  • NotMyProblem:

    I have had worked together with Malaysians. They can afford a bungalow or a shop in Johor. Every morning they bought their meals from Johor, some with cigarette too. They spent nothing in Singapore. Why?

    Simply, Singapore’s cost of living is too high. We can hardly afford a decent HDB pigeon hole. $1 in Singapore get you nothing, whereas RM3 can get you a breakfast in Johor.

    Don’t blame Singaporeans for not able to work cheap. Those who took a cheap jobs are those only to do it as a step stone, they will hop as soon as better paying jobs are available.

    Remember there was an offer of $3000 for a dish washing job, there were more than 250 applicants. If that was true, I bet that person would still be working now.

    Singaporeans must be paid a living wage, not slave wage!! Don’t forget employers exploit employees too, very much!!!

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Cheropakick:
    Interesting!

    Tell us more?

    Now you probably could get Anil to fight for you.

    Ai yo! Happened 22 years ago already, those inside MOM who took up my case probably hand over their IC already. I submitted this story to TRE in 2014 under the title “How MOM “helped” me”. Wonder if TRE can retrieve the story?

    MOM took up the case just to show that they are doing their job. But after making me and my ex-company write letters to rebut each which went on for two years, they just left the case like that. Despite my MP writing to them twice, they act blur, never reply. Until one day the then Manpower Minister visited my constituency to have a dialogue with us, I managed to bring this matter up. But the minister Lee Boon Yang merely replied, you must let me know the details. When I tried to hand the letter to him, I was stopped by his bodyguards. I then approached my MP again who wrote another letter.

    Later MOM finally replied, but instead they turned around and accused me of making a false allegation against my ex-company. I got so fed-up and wrote to then PM Goh C.T. But they complaint letter never reached him, it was reverted back to MOM and another round of letters exchanges which went on for two years and later MOM never replied again.

    That’s why I said “JUSTICE MY FOOT!”

    Tech: Actually, the story was submitted in 2012 and is still in TRE’s archive. However, only TRE members can read it from here.

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  • Cheropakick:

    Ah ha! IMHO, This case has no legal limitations for you to pursue, right?

    It would appear that until now, it is still lingering in your mind which might affect your everything! Further more, justice not done is justice denied. You have been very persistent in getting your mind across, why give up on something so important to you?

    Zhenzidan: Ai yo! Happened 22 years ago already, those inside MOM who took up my case probably hand over their IC already. I submitted this story to TRE in 2014 under the title “How MOM “helped” me”. Wonder if TRE can retrieve the story?

    MOM took up the case just to show that they are doing their job. But after making me and my ex-company write letters to rebut each which went on for two years, they just left the case like that. Despite my MP writing to them twice, they act blur, never reply. Until one day the then Manpower Minister visited my constituency to have a dialogue with us, I managed to bring this matter up. But the minister Lee Boon Yang merely replied, you must let me know the details. When I tried to hand the letter to him, I was stopped by his bodyguards. I then approached my MP again whowrote another letter.

    Later MOM finally replied, but instead they turned around and accused me of making a false allegation against my ex-company. I got so fed-up and wrote to then PM Goh C.T. But they complaint letter never reached him, it was reverted back to MOM and another round of letters exchanges which went on for two years and later MOM never replied again.

    That’s why I said “JUSTICE MY FOOT!”

    Tech: Actually, the story was submitted in 2012 and is still in TRE’s archive. However, only TRE members can read it from here.

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  • WP Voter:

    “2. Free rider Singaporeans is unemployable is because they are lazy, unmotivated, uncreative, uninnovative, untalented except cheat to pass exam.”

    This sad state is cultivated and nurtured by PAPa. To be educated is to pass exams. The PAPa culture means citizens, regardless of age, are children and free riders. This is also the reason why few companies are really competitive at the world stage because of multi-lateral trade packs of horse-trading. Good that TPP is shelved. The only solution to the PAPa culture is to break the one-party rule.

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  • @went to japan:

    China did not bully its neighbours.

    The SCS is a strategic location for China for defensive purpose. You should know US has military installments all around the world include Asia. Among all the southeast asian countries who have claimed SCS, Vietnam has built/occupied more islands than anyone else but the west especially US keep quiet about it.

    China bullies its neighbours? Daiyudao (senkaku) Islands belong to China – after WWII US gave it to Japan. The China and India border conflicts/wars are instigated by India – India is basically thief shouting thief (India always think they have west to back her) . The Western media especially the five eyes countries will not tell the truth so you have to dig in research yourself. China is doing well and enroute to become second superpower after US, why would China want to create conflict with India when economy is doing well, more than 90 percent approval ratings of her people? After China settled its border issue with Russia, India is the only neighbour whom China has yet settled with, while India has issues currently with China, Pakistan and Nepal. India has lots of internal issues (its economy rating has been downgraded early this year or last year to untrustworthy state), so is trying to divert attention.

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  • PAP CLOSE DOWN:

    Was terminated by that fat cunt in 1999 for enquiring about CPF arrears. The fat cunt threw a fit and said I threw temper at her. Went down to MOM. Many PMETs there. Their faces told me that they were wrongfully sacked.

    That arrogant officer told me in a stern voice that I have a certaain number of years to sue her. And that was that. I had to pay $1 to that creep for his advice.

    I then went to CPF. Of course I ahd to produce empployment contract. After some runaround, I got my money back.I was lucky that other companies in that industry were willing to hire me with better pay.

    Zhenzidan: Ai yo! Happened 22 years ago already, those inside MOM who took up my case probably hand over their IC already. I submitted this story to TRE in 2014 under the title “How MOM “helped” me”. Wonder if TRE can retrieve the story?

    MOM took up the case just to show that they are doing their job. But after making me and my ex-company write letters to rebut each which went on for two years, they just left the case like that. Despite my MP writing to them twice, they act blur, never reply. Until one day the then Manpower Minister visited my constituency to have a dialogue with us, I managed to bring this matter up. But the minister Lee Boon Yang merely replied, you must let me know the details. When I tried to hand the letter to him, I was stopped by his bodyguards. I then approached my MP again who wrote another letter.

    Later MOM finally replied, but instead they turned around and accused me of making a false allegation against my ex-company. I got so fed-up and wrote to then PM Goh C.T. But they complaint letter never reached him, it was reverted back to MOM and another round of letters exchanges which went on for two years and later MOM never replied again.

    That’s why I said “JUSTICE MY FOOT!”

    Tech: Actually, the story was submitted in 2012 and is still in TRE’s archive. However, only TRE members can read it from here.

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  • PAP CLOSE DOWN:

    Got people riding along the pedestrains’ walkway in those vehicles. I think they aren’t handicapped, just lazy.

    Free Rider Singaporeans:
    Dear TKL,
    Yes, I strongly agreed with you and those who thumb me down are 99.999% free rider who never donate to help Andrew.

    But, Hard Truth is Free Rider Singaporeans cannot stand up to challenges.


    Hard Truth:
    1. Free rider Singaporeans
    cheat to pass exam using 10 years series Cheat Sheet much like what the Americans do.

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    2. Free rider Singaporeans is unemployable is because they are lazy, unmotivated, uncreative, uninnovative, untalented except cheat to pass exam.

    3. Free rider Singaporeans always wait for solution to deliver to them on a plate. You never see them proactively seeking for solution.

    4. Free rider Singaporeans always hide behind monikers to whine instead of stepping out to build connection in community.

    Free rider Singaporeans are so shameless that they even setup a website to promote cheating and feel very <a href="#comment-1894287" rel="nofollow"

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  • blueview:

    Mr. Tan Kin Lian,

    You are seriously a frog living in a very very deep well…..it’s so deep that you and your kakis or anyone who thinks that this is a SINGAPOREAN problem about attitude and all the blah blah reasons you and people like you and PAP have been sprewing senselessly for last 25 donkey years!!!!

    Let me enlighten you on this topic!

    1. This comments about employees or native citizens’ attitude towards work or anything in life is not something new. This is called HUMAN NATURE!!! These comments can be heard in all countries all over the world not just in Singapore! It’s in USA, UK, Western Europe, etc….

    2. I dare you to go and tell the American women to take over the Latinas hotel cleaning jobs. Americans are not that efficient in their work either. Don’t fool yourself.

    3. I dare you to go and tell the French people that they will no longer have 6-8 weeks of vacation days or they cannot take their vacation if they have to meet deadlines.

    4. I dare you to go and tell all the auto manufacturing workers that they will be fired if they don’t meet the deadline, if they take their coffee breaks on tight deadline.

    In most countries YOU WILL ONLY SEE professional and non-professional IMMIGRANTS working with their mouths zipped tight and tails tucked between
    the legs BECAUSE they want to protect their livelihood. They will do anything their Bosses ask them to do including gungho tasks because they have a VERY SECURE LIFE back in their home countries. Immigrants from countries that are good don’t give a shit about the local citizens livelihoods.

    Mr. Tan – I have had hundreds of foreigners telling me that their government will NEVER EVER do what our SG govt does to the locals. They ask me why do your govt do this to you guys!

    Also, SG Bosses hold FWs/foreigners mentally hostage because of their predicament they are in. Educated FTs/foreigners like high flyers, will do whatever the SG bosses asked them to do while they save their high salary money, invest and build 100% freehold homes. If there’s any trouble due to doing what the bosses wanted, they just go back to their home countries laughing. THEY HAVE SECURED THEMSELVES WELL.

    Mr. Tan, don’t listen and talk rubbish la!

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  • blueview:

    Mr. Tan – one more thing.

    Why don’t you suggest that we bring back unions for each industry that will protect their respective industry’s workers livelihood. Like in the western countries, give protection to citizens and they can take on jobs that supports their bosses wishes like for example bulldozing IT projects that results in some favourable or unfavourable results and consequences.

    Why don’t you suggest to SG Govt to provide state funded retirement benefits like in the western countries, china, india, etc..so that Singaporeans can boldly step forward and do whatever their bosses ask them to do knowing that they have food to eat when they retire.

    Mr. Tan – do you seriously think that in all other countries, their citizens are all super smart, super efficient, listen to every word their bosses ask them to do with questioning? Singaporeans are basically screwed big time in all aspects of our lives that we are all forced to live like tinny tiny mouses so that we don’t lose our jobs. Also, it’s a very deliberate move to keep Singaporeans in such a state of sad situations so that we don’t rise above our capabilities and shine because some people in some high places only want certain Singapore familees to have the rights to boss Sporeans around & controlled.

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  • Went to Japan:

    You really think I was born yesterday? I lived in China long to tell you. These days anyone caught bad mouth leaders in private or public or social media all disappeared in the night.

    The constant bullying of South China Seas nations is not just recently, it has been on for many years now. Friends become foes, like Vietnam and Philippines, harassing their fishing boats and sending Chinese trawlers into their territories to fish without licence. Even Eastern Europe are complaining Chinese trawlers were illegally overfishing in their territories without permits and disguising themselves.

    For your information the nine red dot that PRC talks about goes back to Ming Dynasty, it ends just outside the Johor Bahru Sea. All the way from China to Malaysia end.

    The threatening messages by Chinese officials almost every day to various countries and holding hostages of diplomats and journalists. The sending of spies to US and recruiting Singapore as spy agency lead. All exposed on the news… you did not see them?

    Indian soldiers were ambushed by PRC soldiers in DMZ, PRC sent 200 soldiers to ambush 43 Indian soldiers and in the end, 20 Indian died and PRC suffered more than 40. If India is the one intruding, why would they only send 20 to fight 200? The Chinese propaganda has been publishing their versions which you repeated below. Chinese propaganda linked everything to US and Trump.

    You want to bluff us? Dont TC.. or BS like TKL.

    —- Chinese propaganda below————-
    China did not bully its neighbours.

    The SCS is a strategic location for China for defensive purpose. You should know US has military installments all around the world include Asia. Among all the southeast asian countries who have claimed SCS, Vietnam has built/occupied more islands than anyone else but the west especially US keep quiet about it.

    China bullies its neighbours? Daiyudao (senkaku) Islands belong to China – after WWII US gave it to Japan. The China and India border conflicts/wars are instigated by India – India is basically thief shouting thief (India always think they have west to back her) . The Western media especially the five eyes countries will not tell the truth so you have to dig in research yourself. China is doing well and enroute to become second superpower after US, why would China want to create conflict with India when economy is doing well, more than 90 percent approval ratings of her people? After China settled its border issue with Russia, India is the only neighbour whom China has yet settled with, while India has issues currently with China, Pakistan and Nepal. India has lots of internal issues (its economy rating has been downgraded early this year or last year to untrustworthy state), so is trying to divert attention.

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  • TKL the more you write the more you expose your stupidity and spoke nonsense.

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  • Zhenzidan:

    Cheropakick:
    Ah ha! IMHO, This case has no legal limitations for you to pursue, right?

    It would appear that until now, it is still lingering in your mind which might affect your everything! Further more, justice not done is justice denied. You have been very persistent in getting your mind across, why give up on something so important to you?

    At that time, the only way to pursue is to sue them, but that will cost lots of money. I could “retaliate” only by venturing on my own and started my own company after freelancing for a few years to build up my clients. When I finally achieved something, I went back to the company a few times and started taunting them “Oi, don’t sue me leh! I very scared you know?” (the company engaged a law firm to write the letters for them).

    Yes, I still buay song inside. That’s why I am still keeping all the letters, hoping one day if the MOM dares to challenge me to prove my “allegations”, I will show the letters and expose their loopholes and lies which I was able to prove in those letters.

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  • Fair Comment:

    Kin Lian is not a know all and does not know what is happening in the real world. Many employers have preference employing foreigners especially in IT, engineering and construction for the following reasons:

    1) Most Foreigners don’t have family with them and able to work past the knock off time and some stayed on in office or continue working at home as they are alone here in Singapore. Singaporean have a family to return to after working hours. Wife would be unhappy if the husband spend too much time on the job and not with them. Locals have more social activities too, since their parents and siblings are also in Singapore.

    Foreigners with family in Singapore faces the same problem as Singaporean workers and tend to work lesser hours then those foreigners without family here. This is observation by my Thai and Singapore directors in my previous company who employed over few hundred Thai workers and engineers.

    2) Lower cost when there is no CPF for monthly wages and year-end bonuses. I used to work on the total bonus and salaries paid to each employee at end of year report for bonus computations and the directors look at total cost including CPF when deciding bonuses and during staff recruitment. That is a fact and not fiction.

    3) Most locals do more than what is stated in the job description as foreigners are unable or unfamiliar with local laws and governmental procedures. In many instances involving government departments, a Singaporean is needed and Singaporean had to cover these duties but many ignored these additional work done by Singaporeans that are outside the scope of employment which their foreign counterparts need not perform or unable to perform.

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  • @went to Japan:

    When did you live in China?

    I am now living in China and for years already.

    What happen you badmouth PAP publicly?

    In China people can scold the policemen openly without being arrested, can you do that in Singapore.

    I do not know what the Chinese CCP has done in the past(I am not born in those years such as cultural revolution and in Singapore I don’t read Chinese history) , maybe they have done some wrong things just like other governments in other countries but the newer generations of chinese CCP are working so hard for the people which you can see it yourself if you are now living in China.

    You can research into how western people who live in China feel about China – many will tell you what they read in western media (bad, false stuff) is very much different from real life experience(good stuff).

    Chinese rarely say bad of other country governance system (US one is not good by international standards even though it is democractic country), but the west love to defame China, falstify news about China.

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  • @went to Japan:

    Modi said Chinese Soldiers did not cross into Indian territory. How did the physical contact and fight happen? Where are the information you got from?

    Please Google search the The Henderson Brooks-Bhagat report sanctioned by the India government. It will reveal the truth which is the war was not instagdted by China and China was on denfesive side.

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