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The Conclusions On The Maid Case

After two months, finally statements are out. The conclusions are quite straight forward:

1. One person would take the blame, the rest can rest.

2. Cast doubts on the maid and the guy who freed her.

3. No fault on the Home team who made the maid served her time, business as usual, no blame game.

Really? Are you guys convinced?

 

Peggy Sue

 

 

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23 Responses to “The Conclusions On The Maid Case”

  • Dead Stupid:

    Some People just do not know how to use your Vote Wisely.

    Dead Stupid

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  • Everybody happy:

    Oh good, everybody is happy. Police, AGC and court worked very hard, and deserve some good bonus. Maid is free. Justice is very well served. Liew family is honest. Except Karl.

    But Karl was under tremendous court stress to identify 1 hundred items.

    You can’t expect a multimillionaire with lots of business problems to remember where and when he bought a hundred tiny household items, right?

    Let’s give him a stern letter and deploy our overworked police to other more important duties, such as investigating those pests who keep on posting pofma-able stuff.

    Agree? You don’t? Never mind, Simon sure agrees.

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  • xoxo:

    its so obvious.
    We have witnesed it many times before.
    When THE PAPple want to BASH the PEOple,any SMALL offence gets EXAGGERATED and the *offender* GET SEVERELY PUNISHED.
    ALL THE MINISTERS N even MPs would come out to blow things out of proportion!

    When their PAPple commit BIG OFFENCES, THEY would try to DOWM-PLAY the offences by all means and ALL THE MINISTERS would say THERE IS NOTHING SERIOUS here,LETS MOVE ON???

    WORSE AND MORE SINFUL still is to ACCUSE INNOCENT SGS OF BIG OFFENCES AGAINST THE STATE AND CAUSE these sgs to have to flee away ,never to come back or get lengthy sentences???

    ARE WE TRULY ONE SG?
    ARE WE A TRULY ORDERLY N LAW-ABIDING PEOPLE?
    OR ARE THERE 2 SETS OF LAW HERE IN PRACTICE?

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  • xoxo:

    BTW, it is obvious the maid was falsely accused of stealing or else she would not be so determined to GO TO SUCH EXTENT fighting against a powerful force like the LIEW$.

    Not easy to go against ALL ODDS,right?
    Why are we always covering up for the errant conduct n erratic ways of our ELTITE$ here?
    Are we trying to cultivate an * ABOVE YHE LAW* attitude here for elite$?

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  • xoxo:

    Arent ELITES suppose to be ROLE MODELS for the rest of the PEOple instead?
    In fact,for similar offences,ELITES OUGHT TO BE PUNISHED MORE SEVERELY as compared to mere ordinary humble citizens,i would opine.

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  • xoxo:

    To my simple old sg uncle’s mind,if a school boy was late for school,the SCHOOL PTEFECT booked him for DETENTION.
    But if the SCHOOL PREFECT was late for school,he should get DOUBLE DETENTION.

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  • liew mun leong must be jailed:

    pap island is rotten.

    because it is run by rotten people.

    when pap clown broke the pap law Cheng San polling centre on polling day, what did pap do? pap agc said, INSIDE 200m is not within 200m and exonerated pap clown.

    similarly clear as daylight liew mun leong has lied to pap police has lied to pap judge has lied to pap prosecutors.

    yet liew mun leong is not jailed.

    WHY?

    1, pap clown says liew mun leong cannot be wrong since liew mun leong used pap clown FIX the OPPO manual to fix liew mun leong’s low wage maid.

    2, pap clown wife has said liew mun leong is a people builder. a maid fixer cannot be a people builder. if liew mun leong is jailed, it means liew mun leong is a maid fixer and so cannot be a people builder. so much so that it means pap clown wife has lied. since pap clown wife cannot lie, therefore, liew mun leong cannot be jailed.

    3, pap prosecutors, one of them, is the daughter of a liew mun leong kaki. it means it is all in the clan, it is all in the family. if liew mun leong is jailed, it means one or both of the prosecutors cannot escape jail too. so therefore liew mun leong cannot be jailed to protect one or both of the prosecutors.

    4, in short, liew mun leong cannot be jailed. otherwise, even the pap judge and the pap police all cannot escape.

    see.

    the above is why 61% sheep are ffffing stupid sheep.

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  • MarBowling:

    Peggy Sue,
    38.76% ARE DEFINITELY NOT CONVINCED, PERIOD!
    61.24% ARE DEFINITELY VERY VERY CONVINCED.
    Holee $moke!

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  • NotMyProblem:

    Crooks used to join the army to protect themselves from the police.

    Now crooks join the safest place and be protected by the Police. This place is the PAP.

    As long as there is still 61% stupid voters, it will be like that.

    Cannot blame PAP, it is like that for a very long time already. When 61% love it, PAP will remain so.

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  • Realistically:

    @ Peggy Sue

    I think Law & Home Affairs Minister Shanmugam beli stoooooooopid wan lah……..he neber read the CHIEF JUSTICE judgment in which the CJ oso implicitly criticised District Judge Olivia Low………

    I just give ONE example from the judgment….I use capital letters to emphasise what I consider to be the important point:

    13 At the end of the trial, the DJ held that the key question in relation to the Device was not its functionality but rather whether the applicant had permission to take the Device. …… No finding was made as to the Device’s functionality or whether Mdm Ng had intended to throw it away. I digress to observe that the DJ APPEARED NOT TO HAVE APPRECIATED THE POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANCE OF WHETHER THE DEVICE WAS OR WAS NOT WORKING IN ASSESSING THE CREDIBILITY OF MDM NG AND THE APPLICANT (ie Liyani) ….. However, IF it turned out that the Device WAS FAULTY it would lend weight to her contention that she had been told it was faulty; and WOULD CUT AGAINST MDM NG’s CONTENTION that it was perfectly functional. This could then BEAR ON THE CREDIBILITY …….of each of them on the question of whether the Device had been discarded or not.

    14 On appeal, the Judge thought that the EVIDENCE AS TO THE WORKING CONDITION ……….WAS IN FACT OF CRUCIAL evidence as to the working condition of the Device was in fact of crucial relevance to the applicant’s defence. ….The JUDGE CONSIDERED THAT THE DEVICE ….AS SPOILT …(A)ccordingly, he accepted the applicant’s defence that her employers had no longer wanted the faulty Device and acquitted the applicant of the s 381 charge in relation to the Device (see Parti Liyani (HC) at [94]– [96]).

    People can read the CJ’s judgment at this link:

    https://www.singaporelawwatch.sg/Portals/0/Docs/Judgments/2020/2020%20SGHC%20227.pdf
    Re Parti Liyani [2020] SGHC 227

    How come Shanmugam neber mention anything about the CJ’s judgment ar finding fault with the District Judge and the DPPs?

    Like this oso can wan meh……..& call it Parliament Statement? What a FARCE!!!!!! And ALL those monkeys in white oso agree with the Murali’s amendment!!!!!!!! So PATHETIC………

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  • Asd:

    I think rotten to the core

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  • Robin:

    Holy 10000 NTUC vochours,batman.

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  • House of laughing hyenas:

    Either too many are proven stupid or too many have no sense of Social Justice.

    Its not about Liyani. Its about the system.

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  • lao invoke taoistic return:

    no wonder ah lao has to invoke taoistic to return to trash the immoldabke scum he left behind to pee n poo on him. But his desperado effort seemed in vain with gorilla stenched ambient. what will be his next attempt. Will it be the deparate drag n trash as he was most familiar in the living world? Lets see. it should be easy with the pendemic. may be a stupid flight to maid land n of kaputted! heng ah while humkachan n indianbanana sweats in tears. Sinkies shoched to normal n paradise return. bananas r eternally uprooted with mangoes n buah karat instead.

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  • Harder Truths:

    Told you.

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  • bbs:

    The law is screwing up, the black puppy is barking in the house and churning out excuses and casting doubts.

    This puppy is really cunning, he is used as defence and attack puppy.

    Real foreign talent from India.

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  • AristoCATs - Set own Rules !:

    > “3. No fault on the Home team who made the maid served her time, business as usual, no blame game.”
    -
    When they control the seats,
    they set their own rules –
    OwnSelf Check Ownself. . .
    Move on . . . .
    -
    UnBelieavable?
    -
    39% have seen the Power of the Ballot Box !

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  • Realistically:

    Repost:

    Law & Home Affairs Minister Shanmugam, in his Parliament Statement said, inter alia the following:

    234. So, our State Courts, one view. High Court, different view. Court of Appeal, a different view again.

    235. Question for us, as I have said more than once, is not which Court was right or wrong. The key question is: Was case conducted fairly in both Courts?

    236. The State Courts heard evidence from 12 Prosecution witnesses, four Defence witnesses including Ms Liyani, over 20 days. It had the opportunity to observe the witnesses, consider their evidence, Ms Liyani’s submissions, and it made its findings.

    237. The High Court considered the lower Court’s findings and Ms Liyani’s further submissions over three days, and came to a different view.

    238. This became a long and somewhat complex, complicated case. The Record of Proceedings runs to almost 3,700 pages.

    239. I have brought this House through some of the issues in detail, as I said earlier, to give Members a slightly better appreciation of the evidence.

    240. The matter was thoroughly ventilated and considered by both the State Courts and the High Court.
    —-
    The implication of Shanmugam’s above statements seem to suggest to me that should believe DJ Olivia Low’s judgment as CORRECT/RIGHT, based solely on the fact that the State Court proceedings lasted 20 days and resulted in the Record of Proceedings of over 3,700 pages, WHEREAS the hearing in the High Court under Justice Chan lasted only 3 days and therefore MUST BE unreliable, NOTWITHSTANDING that the Chief Justice had allowed the application by Liyani to refer the two DPPs for a Disciplinary Tribunal hearing and that the CJ had implicitly criticised DJ Olivia Low’s judgment as well as the 2 DPPs for misleading the court……..WITH the AGC being given FULL opportunity to present its side of the case; UNLIKE the so-called Home Affairs Ministry and the AGC’s “investigations” in Shanmugam’s Parliament Statement, which was only ONE-SIDED.Also, Shanmugam did NOT deal with the issue of the DPPs MISLEADING the court that the DVD was in working order ONLY by connecting the DVD player’s hard disc directly to a monitor/TV……and the unjust rejection of expert testimonies by DJ Olivia Low.

    Now you understand why I call Shanmugam’s so-called Parliament Statement to be a FARCE and also criticised the FAILURES by the wayang party’s MPs who are LAWYERS for not calling out Shanmugam’s FARCE.

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  • Lao eh really fume:

    First taoistic attempt failed. Worse expose admit more lights into the rat dark red hole.
    Second comback worser expose n self condemned
    Third, what could it be????
    Dynasty weasels, beware!

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  • House of laughing hyenas:

    An indonesian maid can win sg law system.
    How about Lim Tean and Leong SH?

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  • Selective barking:

    Our Singapore brand name is being eroded with more of these wayang . They don’t seem to be able to call out a puppy from a cat . Just rubbish that 3,700 pages and called out deficiencies like what Gandhi will do .. wayang party can raise only more dogs who barked the same language . Indian can be a Malay aka Singapore only .. what more flood it 3,700 pages of lies as justifications without calling them out .. we lose valuable grounds without making clear distinctions .. relying on a false belief .that their political capital does afford more wayang .. we see a useless puppy that barks selectively ..

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  • Realistically:

    Leong Sze Hian? Who?

    Quote from the emperor without clothes:

    “PM Lee also told the court that Mr Leong is “far from the most vocal or sharp or effective critic of the Singapore government”. There are MANY WHO ARE MORE EFFECTIVE than him, who have not been sued, he added.

    PM Lee responded: “I’ve explained to you that having borne this cross for so many years, there was no reason to sue him on the basis of his criticisms. We have learned to live with these ANT BITES.”

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  • Realistically:

    Wonder who are the “MANY who are more effective than him”?

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