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Smart Nation and Digital Government Group contradicts itself on app and token

PM’s announcement of Phase 3 reminded me of “Ownself contradict ownself” statements from the Smart Nation and Digital Government Group: the elite team meant to remake S’pore.

(Is Li Hongyi on it? Secret Squirrel alleges that he’s on it and is one of its shining lights. But Secret Squirrel often gets things wrong.)

But first, some introductory comments:

The adoption of the TraceTogether app and tokens stand at more than 60 per cent, getting closer to the 70 per cent target required to move to Phase 3

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/tracetogether-app-token-adoption-phase-3-13748714

CNA went on to say that SNDGG said a possible reason (one of several SNDGG gave) for not adopting TraceTogether

may be the belief that SafeEntry is sufficient, stemming from a lack of understanding that TraceTogether and SafeEntry are complementary tools that serve different functions.

 

Constructive, nation-building CNA

Excuse me Smart Nation and Digital Government Group, if liddat, why u/m statement?

No need to collect the token if you have the TraceTogether App

https://token.gowhere.gov.sg/

 

The statement implies that the token is an alternative to the app.

There’s more from the :

Contact Tracing

The TraceTogether Token complements the TraceTogether App by extending the protection provided by digital contact tracing tools to those who may not own or prefer not to use a mobile phone.

https://token.gowhere.gov.sg/

 

OK, OK, the Smart Nation and Digital Government Group didn’t issue these statements, the S’pore govt did.

But surely the Smart Nation and Digital Government Group must have approved these statements. So why so cock, unless it didn’t vet the site.

Btw, I’ve been told that I cannot collect the token yet. Originally the date for collection in my area would have begun on 14 December. No new date has been given.

How to get to target of 70% liddat? So don’t suka suka blame public like the the Smart Nation and Digital Government Group implied in the CNA article.

How to have confidence in the $4G leaders? But let’s be far, PM and other 3Gs are still calling the shots. So 3Gs also are a bunch of mediocrities, not withstanding the million $ salaries: Ex-PM’s money obsession causing PAP problems.

For the record, the 4G leaders failed their legitimacy test: Why PAP aiming for 65% of the popular vote. (Btw, written in 2018: Why even with 4G donkeys, PAP will retain power.)

And based on what PM, Lawrence Wong and Shanmugan said the PAP is very aware that their legitimacy is waning: Legitimacy problem for the PAP as 9% of voters get smarter

But the bad, sad news is how they are trying to fix the legitimacy problem. Instead of listening to Tharman’s views (see below), the PAP are trying to shift the goal posts, lowering the high water mark of success: now only aiming for 65% of the popular vote as their high water mark of popularity and success, not -70%+ mark of the past: How the PAP plans to fix its legitimacy problem.

And we must be a more tolerant democracy, with greater space for divergent views, and a more active civil society, without the public discourse becoming divisive or unsettling the majority.It will be good for Singapore if we evolve in these three ways. They will each help ensure stability in our democracy in the years to come. And they will tap on the energies and ideas of a younger generation of Singaporeans and their desire to be involved in public affairs.

Part of Tharman’s FB post

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Cynical Investor

Cynical Investor blogs at Thoughts of a Cynical Investor
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11 Responses to “Smart Nation and Digital Government Group contradicts itself on app and token”

  • PAP CLOSE DOWN:

    Looks like a logistic issue.

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  • oxygen:

    LEE-jiapore India bank stupidly attempted to puppy whistle recalcitrant customers rejecting their forced fed of its debit card, in a written response to customer’s complaint, quoted “smart nation” drive as its justification of over-ride.

    The generic silo of fake delusion has no logic and won’t work.

    Why?

    Very simple.

    Does LEE-jiapore India bank’s customers’ relation thinks that without its debit card forced mass adoption of grudging even unwilling non-acceptance, the nation is reduced back to the Stone Age of a “STUPID NATION”?

    Or did LEE-jiapore India bank seriously thinks that LEE-jiapore is a stupid nation to begin with?

    Smart nation self-delusion cut no teeth of truth and STUPID OF NO EDUCATION mentality.

    Haven’t they see now that (greatly exaggerated I believe) 60% adoption of Trace Together App of contact tracing in pandemic spread containment measure didn’t take off?

    That is to say at least 40% either has no mobile phone, don’t know how to download the App and if downloaded and found not working only to find no one willing to help in shopping mall, and thus does not know how to resolve this bewilderment?

    That is at least 40% perpetually belong to “STUPID NATION”?

    And now the “token” is massively collected to be put into the home museum JUST IN CASE OF MASSIVE PECUNIARY FINE if not carried around (from next year) like another “puppy-tag” all must have when outdoor?

    SMART NATION DELUSION IS TRULY DOG-TAGGING OF “STUPID NATION” in self-revelation.

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  • I am stupid:

    TraceTogether, regardless of software app or hardware Token does the same job. Both are the same. One is hardware that you carry around the other is software that is installed into your phone. You need only one.
    It records who was around you ( if the other persons have Tracetogether, either in hardware token or software installed in their phones.)

    SafeEntry is a software that resides on the internet. It collects your personal data of your presence in shops, buildings etc. and how long you stayed there ( if you log out )

    Both are complimentary.

    But I believe it can be tweaked to become one.

    I blame media and authorities for being unclear about both systems.
    Social media made it worse.

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  • Smart Nation my A**:

    Apparently they bought the junk device that is facing technical issue now, I heard bluetooth check-in safe entry scanning is the problem, only barcode scanning which defeat the purpose example People can take the battery out and still gain entry by barcode scanning. LOL [smart nation my A**]

    Aside from that, there are many technical problems when the device in near to many other similar bluetooth devices example in crowded environment, even with its frequency hopping and spread spectrum technology.

    Its stupidity to its maximum unless someone is connected even men in blue give special special extra treatment, you know what saying.

    Vivian is somewhat right in a way. He said that the use of the devices should be based on a “spirit of trust, openness, and compassion” as well as “mutual responsibility”. Because you know what, People in defiant ON when enter and All Time OFF, defeating the Whole Mandatory/Compulsory Enforcement Nonsense and with zentre finger probably.

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  • Shiok Shiok Stupidity:

    @I am stupid;

    Ultimately there must be the Entry Check example the Apps is running or the token is with battery. If no check, I would carry the token without the battery or not run the Apps [or modify the configuration scan timings].

    Many people shiok shiok collect the token or download the Apps and didn’t realize the TROUBLE of the LAW until one day his whole family and himself get the isolation order/notice because someone token recorded their token ID.
    Also even the common corridor of the HDB becomes a threat since the token is always ON.

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  • uselesstankl:

    SINGAPORE – Zoom Video Communications, which owns the ubiquitous video-conferencing platform Zoom, is expanding its footprint in Singapore by opening a new research and development (R&D) centre and doubling the size of its data centre here.

    The US tech giant will also hire

    zzzzzz

    So freaking ” PROPAGANDA ”

    Issuing of ” THOUSANDS ” of SPECIAL PASS and work PERMITS to foreigners in the

    FAKE GUISE OF JOBS !!!!

    This is WHAT PAP is GOOD FOR !!!

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  • PAP are the SCUMBAGS of SG:

    SINGAPORE: Former Singapore Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong will go for radiation therapy after a biopsy found a nodule in his larynx had squamous cells.

    In his latest Facebook update, Goh, 79, said he had been going to the hospital umpteenth times in the last four weeks, first to remove a kidney stone and then to conduct a biopsy on a suspicious nodule in his larynx.

    Quote

    Reported in FREE MALAYSIA TODAY.

    KARMA , knocking on gct door.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    I am stupid:
    TraceTogether, regardless of software app or hardware Token does the same job. Both are the same. One is hardware that you carry around the other is software that is installed into your phone. You need only one.
    It records who was around you ( if the other persons have Tracetogether, either in hardware token or software installed in their phones.)

    SafeEntry is a software that resides on the internet. It collects your personal data of your presence in shops, buildings etc. and how long you stayed there ( if you log out )

    Both are complimentary.

    But I believe it can be tweaked to become one.

    I blame media and authorities for being unclear about both systems.
    Social media made it worse.

    So is this protocol call “Trace Together ONLY Safe Entry ” Or “Trace Together AND Safe Entry” ? Since both must be used!!

    Or is this another PAP’s “inside is not within ” ?

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  • LanjiaoKia Use State Resource?:

    @ oxygen

    Only “dogs” wears tags. 40% are humans.

    oxygen: That is to say at least 40% either has no mobile phone, don’t know how to download the App and if downloaded and found not working only to find no one willing to help in shopping mall, and thus does not know how to resolve this bewilderment?

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  • opposition dude:

    I have said this before and I will say this once more if you haven’t installed TraceTogether. Turn on Bluetooth ONLY WHEN YOU NEED TO SCAN THE QR CODE, OTHERWISE SWITCH IT OFF WHEN YOU LEAVE THE SHOPPING CENTRE. This app is suspicious when it requires Bluetooth instead of just your regular internet connection to transmit your location to wherever it needs to.

    Second thing. On your first run of TraceTogether it asks you to allow/deny permission for it to take pictures and record video. Please DENY both. There is no reason for it to do either since all it’s supposed to do is to report your location and nothing more. Wanting to take pictures and recird video is very highly suspicious.

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  • xoxo:

    TRACE together seems more like *TRACK altogether???

    Oppo sgs like Dr Tan and Dr Chee got to be more cautious…
    Why cant there be an easier ,less suspicious process?

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