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WP versus Pappy 4G Transition

The last election you can see WP 4G taking over and LTK himself stepping down to make way for the transition. And what happened? His 4G team won another GRC. Pritnam the 4G successor was shown to be above his league, guiding WP and making further inroads.

Mr Low is like Zhuge Liang from ancient times, he always managed to out maneuver the overpaid same old mentality PAPPY. Long sighted, brilliant and always manage to outflank.

1. The white party believed if they clip the few leaders with law suit re AHTC, the party will disintegrate. Mr Low decided to step down with Png, paving way for younger leaders to emerge. So even if Pappy clips the few keys one, the younger leaders will take over. So how many can they continue to clip?

2. Staying close to the people. Mr Low started this visiting the wake at the neighbourhood and this has always worked. And not to mentioned, each week, you see how hard their volunteers and also candidates visit the estates getting to know the people and the voters. PAPPY candidates and MPs always missing at MPS and not to mention never really see them on the ground.

3. WP has been seen the party which is pro Singapore and Singaporean, PAPPY on the other hand is a party that puts foreigners as priority.

4. AH-TC saga is basically a political sabo, most Singaporeans know there is no corruption. The real corruptions in other Town Councils were not pursued by the so called self appointed “independent team”.

5. WP has proposed many pro Singapore and Singapore policies in parliament but had been shot down all the while, giving no chance to implement their policies.

6. WP has fought for Singapore and Singaporeans but lost on votes to these over paid white MPs.

7. Claimed 4G is dream team and now says they cant take over!!! Ownself bs ownself?

8. White PARTY is a party of self-centred and old men party with no fresh ideas except talk down, insults and belittle Singaporeans with different ideas.

If Singaporeans want a better Singapore, we need to vote WP and other opposition parties than to stick with the overpaid, run out of ideas and sticking to the old ways of doing things ie overpaying themselves, their cronies and focusing on importing FTs to grow GDP and their own votes. They do not have innovations nor ideas to reinvigorate Singapore in the 21st Century.

Honestly, do you see it and agree with me?

 

DuGu QiuBai

 

 

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28 Responses to “WP versus Pappy 4G Transition”

  • oxygen:

    ALL DICTATORSHIPS HAVE NO CREATIVITY, fearful and resentful against critical minds and they are “VIOLENTLY” opposed to economic realities (population-driven economics is stupid economic/asset bubbles are fake economics) and forces of natural disorder (pandemic).

    Inevitably, PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics fails because politics rule economics.

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  • you're right!:

    100% agree with you!!

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  • Teh Tolak & Perversity Pappy:

    The Workers Party’s social democracy and honest egalitarianism, is what Dr.Toh Chin Chye & Dr. Goh Keng Swee would approve for their vision of the Republic of Singapore. Not the Emperor Dowager’s Sinchiapor Incorporated and its military oligarchs & crony capitalists, no way hoseh….. That’s where Ahgong schismatized from original PAP principles and he and sons went astray by a long way, leading to the present two-systems-in-one-country.

    Poor young educated sheeples and pitiful slogging grannies and grandpas enslaved by the papeconomic mammoth …. boo hoo hooo …..

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  • WP vs PAP:

    WP MPs can stand on their own merits. They are not “groomed” and “parachuted” from the military or govt establishments. They may be relatively young compared to the PAPpies, but they have proven themselves in the election battleground despite the odds they were up against. Where they lost to the PAP by small percentage margin, I suspect new citizens may have played a part in detemining the outcome in those contituencies. How ready is the WP to form a new govt by the next GE? Can you give voters the confidence that you can deliver a new govt?

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  • xoxo:

    Sincerely what has LTK achieved for common good of sgs or what has WP achieve for us?
    Nothing in truth.

    LTK N WP ARE OVER-HYPED by some diehard fans.
    Btw,i voted for WP becos of OPPOSITION’S SAKE.
    I would have voted for SDP OR PSP if they sto9d in AJ/sengkang.

    Many sgs there would too.

    WP needs to do more.
    They shud lead the oppo unity.
    Going it alone is fruitless.
    WP is fortunate to stand on HOLY GROUND,thats all.

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  • xoxo:

    That said,not just PAP 4G IS USELESS,EVEN MENTORS 3G ARE JUST AS LOUSY!

    LOOK AT THE CLOWN HIMSELF,HOW USELESS N ARROGANT.
    SGS NEED TO GET IN THE LIKES OF SDP SR CHER N PSP DR TAN N THEIR ABLE MEMBERS LIKR PROF PAUL,DR ANG ETC.

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  • Walao eh

    WP now so hotcake meh, so many support support wor.

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  • NotMyProblem:

    The PAP’s leadership has too much dark secret, handing over power may leak out these secret. So hold on for as long as he can!!

    The reason why PAP’s ministers are paid galaxy’s highest salary is to guard these secrets.

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  • opposition dude:

    The problem with the PAP is that it’s elitist and out of touch with us common people. This is why even though they were going on and on and on about jobs jobs jobs throughout the campaign period they still suffered a vote share drop and a GRC loss. They still have the thinking they are invincible and that their party name alone will be enough, no need to do more than that.

    Sure, a few of them might have come out to say that Singaporeans, the younger generation especially, want a more diverse parliament and all that. But the 3G who are in charge aren’t listening. If you have been reading the surveys done after the election one thing that stands out is when the people that have been interviewed say that WP’s candidates are truly SINCERE. I don’t ever remember reading that about PAP’s clowns.

    So the PAP has only themselves to blame for this due to the way they do things. No need to lie to voters that we are being taken care of because it just isn’t happening. WP is doing everything right and winning more votes with each election because they are doing the opposite of PAP and that is being SINCERE and making that extra effort to connect with voters!

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  • talkcork:

    There are many supposedly smart people in Singapore but they seem to fail to see PAPPY is on decline and complacent and does not have any fresh ideas except immigration.

    Singapore was leading in many years just decades ago, now we dont even lead in anything except foreign immigration.

    Technology?
    Start ups?
    Medical?
    Customer Service?

    Everything is regressing. Just to name a few, Vietnam has already over taken us in start ups.

    Singapore seems to be regressing and living in past glory Uncle Lee brought us. His son is riding on his legacy but honestly, he is the worst of all the leaders.

    And they called all these third world foreigners “Foreign Talents”, asked local PMETs to switch to mid career (PHV and Food Delivery) at 38, you know where this country is heading.

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  • sss:

    Pritnam Singh, Slyvia Lim are better minister material than most of the useless paper generals.

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  • Python 5:

    https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/singapore-overtakes-thailand-to-become-asias-worst-stock-market-034058428.html#:~:text=Singapore%20overtakes%20Thailand%20to%20become%20Asia's%20worst%20stock%20market,-article&text=(Bloomberg)%20%2D%2D%20Singapore%20stocks%20took,worst%20equity%20market%20this%20year.

    Singapore overtakes Thailand to become Asia’s worst stock market
    31 Oct 2020.

    and where is the so-called world’s most busiest port and no.1 airport??

    oxygen:
    ALL DICTATORSHIPS HAVE NO CREATIVITY, fearful and resentful against critical minds and they are “VIOLENTLY” opposed to economic realities (population-driven economics is stupid economic/asset bubbles are fake economics) and forces of natural disorder (pandemic).

    Inevitably, PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics fails because politics rule economics.

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  • Python 5:

    the win in sengkang GRC is related to the 800m long queues and delays on actual polling day.

    islandwide wise…the scores for PAP are diminishing but largely still unable to lose other GRCs..West Coast is one of them.
    maybe one can attribute it to the New citizens votes.

    the solution is a Lehman Bros property meltdown to hit this country completely.
    a lot of ppl are heavily in debts with million dollar property mortgages. (new citizens, pro-PAP, anti-PAP).

    you burn the property market and you burn the PAP.

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  • Python 5:

    WP should experiment with a small 2nd front. in the west side…just try to contest an SMC. see how it performs and if it can grow similarly from one SMC to several GRCs in the west to complement their fortresses in the North-east and eastern side

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  • Harder Truths:

    Does not matter now. There are already too many foreigners taken up citizenship and bringing their entire villages here. Even if the opposition cam do something, it is too late.

    Sometimes the doctor does not tell the patient that there is a terminal cancer in his system. he will beat around the bush and talk about hope and all kinds of treatments.

    But the doctor knows there is no hope no matter what is done. $G is in that situation. The cancer from too many foreigners is already killing off the locals. In another 10 years – two elections – the cancer will have completed its mission and the locals will be in the minority in every area.

    So we can amuse ourselves with the talk of opposition but that is only false hope now.

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  • PAP Give Priority To Foreigner:

    This is a true fact.

    It was reported in the 31/12/20 Straits Times that SingTel had recruited a 40 years old Filipino as an Assistant Manager paying him a Base salary of S$5,000 per month. However Mr Pleo Sherwin Cobos owed Loan Shark money and was forced by the Loan Shark to provide the Loan Shark with details of SingTel customers.

    My question is can’t SingTel recruit any Singaporeans to be an Assistant Manager from a huge number of Poly, NUS, NTU, SIM, SUTD and SUSS graduates ? Is it so difficult to work as an ASssistant Manager job at SingTel ?

    I believe there are also many Pinoys working for M1. Samsung etc.

    We should boycott these companies which do not have the Corporate Responsibility of employing Singaporeans.

    If this continues, remember to vote for the Opposition in the next General Election. KNNBCCB

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  • MarBowling:

    Totally agree with the GREAT and INSIGHTFUL comments by the writer.

    Luckily for Sinkapore, that useless, JLB, MF and arrogant Holee Ivan Lim DID NOT MANAGE to SNEAK IN by the BACKDOOR! Heaven has eyes!

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  • marginalised sgs:

    Hahaha! Treat malaysian PRs n guest-workers so nice ,better than own sgs; now,Malaysia terminate HSR-KL-SIN and only intends to have KL-JB HSR?

    The PAPple betrays SGS but always got played put by foreigners?
    Clever or not?
    Look at the grinning Clown.
    How stupid.

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  • Pinky is useless anyway:

    PAPPY strategy is to grow new citizens – votes and GDP.

    This is why even ministries are hiring foreigners and state enterprises, there must be top down instruction to groom the new imports by giving them good jobs so that they can live here and then import their villages.

    So why they offering to foreigners from third world and giving them management position? How can inferior degree or qualification be sales leader in Singtel making $5000? You can hire a fresh grad or 1-2 years grad ntu nus to this job?

    Its very clear, they want to continue to win by using new citizens, look at the number of PRs converting each year and the number of PRs being approved. You know they are ramming up the new citizens.

    8.9M, 9.9M or 10.9M is real, they just dont want to admit to it, they use POFMA and now no one dares to ask again whats the actual number.

    Singaporeans are cowards, honestly its a bit late as most foreigners are in management positions and slowly more and more locals will be asked to move to mid career at younger and younger age making ways for this incoming third world inferior imports.

    Why? 61% voted for it.

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  • PUTHUCHEARY AVOIDED NS:

    GE2020 took place in August 2020. It’s 4 months later. Isn’t this comment a tad late? Snail mail.

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  • Smart voter:

    Sengkang residents give WP team a chance to serve but 50% of the elected team MP go get pregnant and go long maternity leave! See how irresponsible and ungrateful WP MP! Is unfair to Sengkang residents! If in private sector, the company will not confirm your appointments and ask you leave! WP is lucky PAP let every MP serve 5 yrs term contract with no need probation!

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  • For many years, many Singapore:

    Smart [email protected]

    In private sector, you are pregnant they dont hire you yes.
    But if you are pregnant during work, you have your pregnancy leaves to cover.

    For your information, my ward under PAPPY for 20 years, I had never seen them at all! Only last GE, they came to ask for vote. And I told them I have not seen you in the past 20 years. They smiled. LOL

    For WP, every weekend, I see the MP at the coffee shop. Every week day, I see their house visits with volunteers. PAPPY MP? I have not seen one yet. LOL

    It is precisely the kind of voter PAPPY grooms, self centred selfish self serving, only think of yourself and $$$.

    You dont have a mom? Who gave birth to you?

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  • WP:

    WP need to do more…Don’t take the people support for granted.
    Work with others and fight harder for the people.
    Many are still suffering ,especially from the Covid and restriction.
    Need to ensure the plight of many Singaporean are highlighted and meaningful policy and action in place to address it.
    Every Singaporean matters.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Python 5

    Property market-focused economy is POPULATION-BUBBLE driven economics – in essence stupid economics. They “burst” in one or more of the following circumstances

    - financial market turmoil (GFC)
    - geopolitical tensions (Gulf wars)
    - natural disorder (Covid pandemic spread)

    When these event/s happens, you can’t “retrench” population but the massive collateral damage is inflicted on employment and income falling off the cliff massively eroding survivability of those adversely affected. Those in deeply in debt won’t find escape from crushed creditors (lenders).

    Python 5: the win in sengkang GRC is related to the 800m long queues and delays on actual polling day.

    islandwide wise…the scores for PAP are diminishing but largely still unable to lose other GRCs..West Coast is one of them.
    maybe one can attribute it to the New citizens votes.

    the solution is a Lehman Bros property meltdown to hit this country completely.
    a lot of ppl are heavily in debts with million dollar property mortgages. (new citizens, pro-PAP, anti-PAP).

    you burn the property market and you burn the PAP

    Ravi Menon, MAS boss, have warned of this

    Singapore economy faces ‘deep scarring’ from coronavirus: MAS chief Ravi Menon

    https://www.straitstimes.com/business/economy/singapore-faces-deep-scarring-from-coronavirus-mas-chief-ravi-menon

    Yes, 20% of our economy is scarred in the burnt wreckage.

    Adding to the property market woes is this – our much-touted dreams of turning Jurong Town into a second CBD is as good as burnt charcoal with this announcement.

    Singapore and Malaysia Terminate High Speed Rail Project

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-01/singapore-malaysia-agree-to-terminate-high-speed-rail-project

    What was an 8-year incubation period of negotiation and planning of a “win-win” hoped for outcome is now a “lose-lose” back down.

    Property values on the west side will slide downwards from elevated expectation.

    These are domestic woes.

    AT THE MACRO-GLOBAL LEVEL where any misfortune -if it happens – will naturally be of far greater negative consequences of impact.

    THE SCARY THING NOW IS GOVTS from US, EU, Japan, China is on the SPENDING spree of budget deficits and their central banks baited or meekly toeing in line of printing money to fund this deficit post-pandemic OF CRASHED DEMAND AND SLOWER ECONOMIC FUNCTION.

    Powell Says Federal Reserve Crossed Red Lines to Help Economy

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/business/economy/powell-federal-reserve-economy-coronavirus.html

    when one crosses the zebra forbid of red lights flashing warnings and blind of realities, the ENVIRONMENTAL MINISTRY TRUCK will run over the “goondu” pedestrain for certainty. Only a question of time.

    PROPERTY BUBBLE IS GOING TO BURST.

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  • oxygen:

    @ Python 5

    TROPICAL SQUALLS bashing through LEE-jiapore in the last 48 hours is warning and reminder of over-population density causation.

    According to climate science, the causation of squalls comes from this.

    DownToEarth : in recent years, the rainfall pattern in midsummer in the densely populated Tokyo and Yokohama in Japan has changed from gentle to tropical squall-type rainfall, involving sudden, violent winds with torrential downpours. Researchers at Tokyo University’s Centre for Climate System Research believe it is due to the “heat island phenomenon”, where the temperature rises abnormally in areas where the density of population is very high. It is a result of increasing areas of land being concreted over and emissions from air conditioners and heating systems…..

    Summer squalls… a result of urbanisation?

    https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/summer-squalls-17825

    And what is “heat island phenomenon”?

    Read this article from researchers from NUS.

    TEMPORAL DYNAMICS OF THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND OF SINGAPORE

    https://ink.library.smu.edu.sg/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4325&context=soss_research

    Population-driven economics is a stupid sn*ke coiled up, chewing at its own tail.

    IT IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE of productive economics and wealth creation. Pandemic and climate change containment are VERY HEAVY BURDEN OF COSTS OF LIVING PRESSURES eating into whatever earned income.

    PROPERTY PRICES ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE except down south from here.

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  • Common SENSE:

    PAP gagmt have been self serving,enriching their members, and cronies FOR MANY YRS.
    Implementing their “own self check ownself”
    Results:
    A LOT OF ROTS AND FINANACIAL ABUSES OVER THE YRS
    Go to say A LOT OF STRICT GOVERNANCES,INDEPENDENCE OF OFFICE….ARE THROW OUT OF THE WINDOW.
    YET HAVE NO SHAME CLAIMING THEY ARE CLEAN, TRANSPARENT.YET REFUSE TO SHOW TRANSPARENCY IN ACCOUNTS IN GIC,TEMASEK AND DECLARE SALARIES OF TOP MANAGEMENT.
    The Auditor General Office is helmed by the the wife of a Senior Minister of state…..So where the independence,and here AGAIN OWN RELATIVE, PEOPLE ARE PUT IN HELMING GAGMT OFFICES.
    A LOT OF CRONYISM, ELITISM OVER THE YRS BY PAP GAGMT.
    WHAT HAPPEN TO PARTI LIYANI CASE, QUIET NOW HOPING PUBLIC WOULD FORGET.
    PUBLIC WOULD NOT FORGET ABOUT IT AND WOULD RAISE UP TIMES AND AGAIN.
    UP TO NOW STILL NO C.O.I TO CLEAR THE SHITS, AND CLEAN UP THE SYSTEM IN THE LOWER JUDICIARY…AND GIVE THE COMMON PEOPLE A PEACE OF MIND WITH REGARDS TO HAVING A FAIR,JUST JUSICE SYSTEM FOR THEM.
    WHY NO OMBUDSMAN FOR THE COMMON PEOPLE?
    PAP scheme to enrich their members,dudes……through schemes that money come from public funds.
    EXPECTED MORE TAXES,LEVIES TO COME to fund these schemes….
    ALL these few decades,PAP have been self serving.
    The MAYOR scheme is just a tip of an iceberg, below the iceberg there are few thousands companies, enterprises created by Temasek ,GIC where the top management and directors,chairmen earned easily $1M annually.
    These are schemes created by PAP to enrich their own people…..SELF SERVING.
    I urge u to join opposition parties to help them and enable them to win few more GRCs next GE….and to be a force to be reckoned.
    But just sit and complain, go and join them…have the courage to do so.
    Opposition is weak ,with few elected members in parliament…just under 10%.
    U need ELECTED 35% of PARLIAMENT SEATS to oppositions to enable them to force the PAP gagmt to change their self serving ways.
    CHANGE CAN ONLY COME IF THEY PAP LOSE FEW GRCs….this is FACT OF LIFE,
    USE COMMON SENSE.

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  • David:

    They even use foreigners to lecture and belittle Sporeans. Eg the middle easterner.

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  • oxygen:

    PAPpypolitics 4G is NON-TRANSFORMATIONAL of any change in economic direction and structural reform.

    Here is the proof to the contrary of PAPpynomic’s rhetoric.

    In 2015, Present Tense told the nation, our economy MAXED OUT. That is to suggest that the low-hanging fruits have been harvested.

    Lee says “easy ways” to economic growth “maxed out”

    https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2015/08/13/lee-says-easy-ways-to-economic-growth-maxed-out-opposition-offers-alternatives/

    In 2016, he reminded the nation that there is still so much pain because the restructuring efforts have not bear fruits.

    Come the new year 2018, Present Tense in his new year message to nation, spoke of heavy expenditure in infrastructural expansion that…” require time and resources, and will stretch way beyond this term of government.”

    https://www.pmo.gov.sg/Newsroom/2018-new-year-message-pm-lee-hsien-loong

    Come to 2020, we hear the same (in his May day) message to the nation, of theme of MAJOR restructural change needs urgency.

    Singapore economy faces major structural changes: PM Lee

    https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/singapore-economy-faces-major-structural-changes-pm-lee

    SO WHERE ARE WE GOING OR INTENDING OF GOING?

    Changi Airport T5, and Changi Jewel is now no go or white elephant and the High Speed Railway agreement with Malaysia terminated.

    Between the period prior to 2015 and now, NOTHING OF ECONOMIC STRUCTURE HAS CHANGE – IT IS THE SAME GIMMICKY POLITICS/ECONOMIC resting upon population expansion, population recycling economics and huge spending on infrastructure to provide support to expanded housing, transportation & other amenities

    What does my mind make out of these?

    WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE WITH PAPpypolitics 4G and not making headway in the last decade and nothing going forward too with them in the box seat.

    Do we need them around to lead the nation forward? 4G is stuck of a vacuum of intellect and new mindset or imprisoned of past political preservation mindset of frequently publicly-touted STRUCTURAL CHANGE CATCALL contrasting the actual realities of NO CHANGE AT ALL.

    It is time to put in more OPPIES to wake up PAPpypolitics/PAPpynomics from their life-long slumber and failings.

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